Bayla
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I am curious about the meaning of the Yiddish female given name Bayla
(Beila, Bela (not Hungarian but Yiddish), Beyla), spelled variously
bes-yod-(yod-)lamed-alef or with the last letter he or ayin.
Respond to the group or myself, not both, please.
Tia,
Michael HAMM
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Isaac Hamm (there) was my grandfather.
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Bayla, Beila, Bela are Yiddish but origins are from Spanish bella,
beautiful. It is interesting that my grandmother was Bayle Beilin,
both names having the same origin.
Betty Provizer Starkman
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:40:03 UTC, m.ha...@alumni.nyu.edu (Michael
Hamm) opined:
> I am curious about the meaning of the Yiddish female given name Bayla
> (Beila, Bela (not Hungarian but Yiddish), Beyla), spelled variously
> bes-yod-(yod-)lamed-alef or with the last letter he or ayin.
It is apparently from a Slavic word (variously Bela, Biala, etc.,
depending on the specific Slavic language) meaning "White", so that
the name is entirely equivalent to e.g. Italian "Bianca" or French
"Blanche".
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel
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GRISARU, VATARU: From Iasi, Romania
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:40:03 UTC, m.ha...@alumni.nyu.edu (Michael
Hamm) opined:
> I am curious about the meaning of the Yiddish female given name Bayla
> (Beila, Bela (not Hungarian but Yiddish), Beyla), spelled variously
> bes-yod-(yod-)lamed-alef or with the last letter he or ayin.
To which Stan [Spamnicht] Goodman replied
It is apparently from a Slavic word (variously Bela, Biala, etc.,
depending on the specific Slavic language) meaning "White", so that
the name is entirely equivalent to e.g. Italian "Bianca" or French
"Blanche".
==That is certainly a possibility. More generally Bela as a Jewish
name is assumed to be derived from Bella/Belle (Beautiful/good in a
number of Romance languages in the Middle Ages). My guess is that the
Slavic and Romance names became intertwined over the generations. But
I can't think of any other female (or male) first name, in any language,
that suggests "white."
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** Reply to message from MBe...@aol.com on Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:11:14
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> On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:40:03 UTC, m.ha...@alumni.nyu.edu (Michael
> Hamm) opined:
>
> > I am curious about the meaning of the Yiddish female given name
> > Bayla (Beila, Bela (not Hungarian but Yiddish), Beyla), spelled
> > variously bes-yod-(yod-)lamed-alef or with the last letter he
> > or ayin.
>
> To which Stan [Spamnicht] Goodman replied
> It is apparently from a Slavic word (variously Bela, Biala, etc.,
> depending on the specific Slavic language) meaning "White", so that
> the name is entirely equivalent to e.g. Italian "Bianca" or French
> "Blanche".
>
> ==That is certainly a possibility. More generally Bela as a Jewish
> name is assumed to be derived from Bella/Belle (Beautiful/good in a
> number of Romance
That's at least equally believable. I have no authority other than the
testimony of a Ukrainian Beila.
> languages in the Middle Ages). My guess is that the Slavic and
Romance names
They didn't really need to become intertwined (although there have
been plenty of Romance > Slavic borrowings), because they have a
common origin in Proto-IndoEuropean.
> became intertwined over the generations. But I can't think of any
> other female (or male) first name, in any language, that suggests
> "white."
White, Pale, Fair. You pick.
See above. If you have never encountered a Bianca or Blanche, you have
led a restricted social life. =;->8
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel
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Most Beyla's I know have the Hebrew name Bilha.
Ida
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:40:03 UTC, m.ha...@alumni.nyu.edu (Michael
Hamm) opined:
> I am curious about the meaning of the Yiddish female given name Bayla
> (Beila, Bela (not Hungarian but Yiddish), Beyla), spelled variously
> bes-yod-(yod-)lamed-alef or with the last letter he or ayin.
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Since the origin of this name has already generated so much
debate, I hope no one will mind if I throw more fuel on the fire.
Alexander Beider's authoritative Dictionary of Ashkenazic Given
Names traces this name, which he spells Beyle, to the form Bel(l)a,
borrowed by Jews in France, Italy, and Spain from their Gentile
neighbors in the Middle Ages. It is derived from either the French
"belle" (beautiful), or Isabella, the Spanish form of Elizabeth.
According to Beider, the similarity to the Czech word "bela" for
"white" and to a Czech Christian name derived from this adjective
reinforced the name's popularity among western migrants, but they
were not its origin. The Hebrew name Bilha can be either an
independent name found in the Bible, as Henriette Moed Roth pointed
out, or a Hebraized spelling of Beyle chosen to fit the Biblical name.
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For what it's worth, my grandmother Beila SANKTIN SLATAS
chose to use the name Bella after she emigrated to the US.
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Thanks, all, for your help re: "Bayla".
Michael (Menashe) HAMM
New York City