Origin of the word Pitchipoi

[Olivier.Lehrer]

During the dark time of deportation, Jewish people used to call their
unknown destination : Pitchipoi...
It was meaning somewhere else lost in the East....
What is the origin of this word ?
Thank you to help me.
Olivier Lehrer (Paris)
I'm always looking for LEHRER, ZAK families...
mailto:Olivier...@wanadoo.fr
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[Shel Bercovich]

There was a restaurant by that name in Place St. Catherine, Paris, 3e.
Hope it's still there! Perhaps the restaurateur can tell you why he
gave it that name.

Shel
mailto:sberc...@home.com

"Olivier.Lehrer" wrote:
>
> During the dark time of deportation, Jewish people used to call their
> unknown destination : Pitchipoi...
> It was meaning somewhere else lost in the East....
> What is the origin of this word ?

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[Alexander Sharon]

Is this should read Pitchipoi or rather Ptichipoi?, since Ptichipoi [pteeh
cheeh poy] could be translated from Russian as 'birds drinking place"
Sounds like a good name for the bar.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta
mailto: a.sh...@home.com

"Shel Bercovich" <sberc...@home.com> wrote in message
news:38E17C41...@home.com...

> There was a restaurant by that name in Place St. Catherine, Paris, 3e.
> Hope it's still there! Perhaps the restaurateur can tell you why he
> gave it that name.
> Shel

> "Olivier.Lehrer" wrote:

[Isab...@aol.com]

Hi All!
Don't know what the origin of the word (? phrase?) Pitchipoi is, but there
is a square in Paris, used by the Nazis as a collection point, that is
called Pitchipoi. Any clues?

Isabel Cymerman
isab...@aol.com
mailto:Isab...@AOL.COM

[Roberta Sheps]

This may just obfuscate things further, but according to my French
dictionary, "pichet" (pronounced "pee-shay") is a jug or pitcher,
and "poids" or "pois" (both pronounced "pwah"), means weight or peas
respectively. Not a lot of help there. Maybe one of our French members
can help.

I first came across the word in the novel "Charlotte Gray" by Sebastian
Foulkes, a war novel about an English rose who becomes an agent in France
and gets caught up in events surrounding the deportation of an elderly
Jewish man and two little boys, all of whom go through Drancy. I don't
know where the author heard the word, but if his research was any good,
it would make sense for the word to have had a French origin.

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, England

Isab...@aol.com wrote:
> Don't know what the origin of the word (? phrase?) Pitchipoi is, but
> there is a square in Paris, used by the Nazis as a collection point,
> that is > called Pitchipoi. Any clues?

mailto:roberta...@tesco.net

[BasG...@aol.com]

If it has a French origin, I would rather think of "petits pois", meaning
garden peas.
By the way, in the current Paris street guide there is no square called
Pitchipoi or anything similar.

Basile Ginger
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (French JGS)
http://www.genealoj.org

mailto:BasG...@AOL.COM

[BasG...@aol.com]

Sorry, I had not read the previous messages on the subject.
I called the restaurant (which still exists), the restaurateur told me that
the meaning in Yiddish was "a small imaginary village"... But it rather seems
to me (I can speak Russian) that Alexander Sharon was right in his message
dated 03/29: "a birds drinking place".

Basile Ginger
Paris