My quest for Italian documents- Scopa

[DGly...@aol.com]

SCOPA - Avellino> East Boston, MA; related families Gagliardi, Lepore,
Loungo, et al.

Funny how are needs are so different. I have been meaning to personally
thank bobbybats for all of his useful information - couldn't have come at a
better time for me, and now I know exactly what to do! I receive close to
200 emails/day, including spam, complaints, solicitations....the few useful
ones I receive are well worth the aggravation of unwanted email.

I AM STILL LOOKING...so anyone with info on my family or more advice on
obtaining Italian records, please feel free to email me (perhaps privately,
not to the list!)

I am researching the families of DeFlumeri, DePalma, DiPaolo, Ferriero,
Gagliardi, Lepore, Loungo, and Scopa, Italy to East Boston, MA, USA.

Paul SCOPA was born in 1880 to Vincenzo SCOPA and Antonia LEPORE, of
Avellino, ITL. He married Carmella (also Maria Carmela) DiPAOLO, born in
1876, the daughter of Antonio DiPAOLO and Maria LOUNGO. Maria Carmella d.
August 25, 1948 in Winthrop, MA where she presumably lived with her son after
her husband's death, January 19, 1948. Paul and Carmella had at least three
sons, James, Salvatore, and Roland Anthony, b. August 14, 1907, Villamania,
Avellino, ITL.

It is unclear when the Scopa family came to the East Boston area.
Roland married Mary Giorgina GAGLIARDI in 1935, having 3 sons in the Boston
area, Robert, James, and Roland.

First confirmed Gagliardi ancestor in the U.S. was Salvatore GAGLIARDI, b.
May 30, 1891 in Benevento, Benevento, Italy, son of George GAGLIARDI and
Josephine DEPALMA. Sal married Maria DEFLUMERI, b. September 05, 1895 in
Melito, Irpino, Italy, dau. of Prisco DeFLUMERI and Patrizia FERRIERO. Sal's
daughter Mary Giorgina, b. June 25, 1915 in East Boston, married the above
Roland Anthony SCOPA in 1935. Other known children are Joseph (moved to
Derry, NH) and Millie (no other info at this time).

I am now trying to obtain the Italian birth records and fill in some gaps in
the U.S. Any suggestions, references, or info welcome!

DJ in Boston

Researching in various locations: Barry, Bollinger, DeFlumeri, DePalma,
DiPaolo, Ferriero, Gagliardi, Gutner, Hines, Johnn, Joyce, Lepore, Loungo,
McCarthy, Scheidel, Scopa.

Also researching:

in New Brunswick, CAN: Hartshorn, Ibbetson (?), Muzzeroll, Nash, Walsh;
in Quebec/British Columbia: Gagne, Gagnon, Lapointe, Matte
in PEI, CAN: Bradley, Goodwin, Lawless, McCarthy, McMahon, Mulligan,
O'Sullivan;
in Ireland: Glynn, Hines, Minnihan, Murphy;
in upstate NY: Charbonneau, Chatel, Lapointe

in New England, colonial to present: Allen, Andrews, Austin, Ayre, Barlow,
Barker, Bateman, Blood, Brooks, Brown, Browne, Burbank, Buttrick, Carr, Cass,
Carter, Chatel, Clark, Collins, Coxon, Culver, Daby, Dane, Eames (?), Emery,
Evans, Farwell, Fields, Fitch, Foote, Foster, Franklin, Frost, Fuller, Gage,
Gagne, Gagnon, Gardner, Gawkroger (Platts), Gibson, Glynn, Goodwin, Grant,
Greene, Harlow, Harris, Hartshorn, Hastings, Hatch, Hemingway, Hewes, Higgs,
Hixon, Hixson, Hobbs, Hopkins, Hough (Howe), Hovey, Humphrie, Hyde, Ibbetson
(?), Iyde, Joslin, Kimball, King, Knowlton, Lane, Lapointe, Larrabee,
Lawless, Leach, Lee, Leete, Linton, Littlefield, Makepiece, Marlowe, Moore,
Morse, Mousall, Nichols, Nutt, Page, Parkhurst, Partridge, Peirce,
Pemberton, Pierce, Prescott, Prisse, Richards, Richardson, Robey (Roby),
Rowley, Royal, Russell, Rust, Sawtell, Sawyer, Scott, Sharp, Shatswell,
Sibley, Smith, Stanhope, Stearns, Stevens, Stewart, Tracy, Tucker, Turner,
Upton, Wadd, Walker, Ward, Warner, Waters, Watkins, Weaver, Weeks, Wells,
Wheeler, Whitcomb, White, Whotlocke, Wilder, Wilson, Woodman, Wyman.

[bobbybats]

DJ -

You want to write to:

L'Ufficiale Di Anagrafe
Comune Di Benevento
82100 Benevento (BN)
ITALIA

For the birth records of Salvatore GAGLIARDI:

First confirmed Gagliardi ancestor in the U.S. was Salvatore
GAGLIARDI, b. May 30, 1891 in Benevento, Benevento, Italy,
son of George GAGLIARDI and Josephine DEPALMA.

Also, you want to write to:

L'Ufficiale Di Anagrafe
Comune Di Villamania
83050 Avellino (AV)
ITALIA

For the birth records of Paul SCOPA:

Paul SCOPA was born in 1880 to Vincenzo SCOPA and
Antonia LEPORE, of Avellino, ITL.

Now, at the same time to enable you to gather a generation
or two, you should also write to each of the ARCHIVIO DI
STATO to see what family records they might have. You will
end up writing to them anyway if you do good research.

Direttore Elena Glielmo
ARCHIVIO DI STATO DI BENEVENTO
Via dei Mulini, Palazzo Forno
82100 Benevento (BN)
ITALIA

and

Direttore Andrea Sessa
ARCHIVIO DI STATO DI AVELLINO
Via S. Soldi, 9
83100 Avellino (AV)
ITALIA

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When you write to a L'Ufficiale Di Anagrafe of a comune,
you can ask for vital records (bireth/death), vcertificate
of
residency and cerrtificate of family.

When you write to the state archives known as the
Archivio di Stato you can get vital records, draft records,
notary records, censuses (if available), tax records, and
passports.

After you receive your records you will be able to identify
a church and you can then write there. Soon, your puzzle
starts to fit together. Italian genealogy is not hard if
done
correctly. Either the records are there in Italia, or they
are not.

But by writing to the comune, the archivio and the church
you
have covered the major bases. Later you can fill in the
cracks,
but you need to build the foundation first.

You would be surprised how many people throw a name on
here and say "SEARCHING". But, they have a name of the
comune and have never written. Useless way to do a
genealogy-family tree. No trunk - no branches.

Merry Christmas.

bobbybats

> SCOPA - Avellino> East Boston, MA; related families
> Gagliardi, Lepore,
> Loungo, et al.
>
> Funny how are needs are so different. I have been meaning
> to personally
> thank bobbybats for all of his useful information -
> couldn't have come at a
> better time for me, and now I know exactly what to do! I
> receive close to
> 200 emails/day, including spam, complaints,
> solicitations....the few useful
> ones I receive are well worth the aggravation of unwanted
> email.
>

> snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-snip

[Sherri Hartlen]

Hi! To get records from Italy, I highly recommend working with the web site
http://www.myitalianfamily.com. They do all of the legwork for you as well as
provide a complete translation of each record they find for you. The cost, per
record, is approximately $15.00 (give or take a couple of dollars depending on
the exchange rate). They are fast, efficient, and very communicative.

They have been tremendously helpful to me in my search for Italian ancestors.

Cheers,
Sherri H.
shar...@usa.net
http://www.jorypepper.com

[albert vallone]

I wonder how many are paying US $50 per hour plus expenses for research in Italy
when the LDS in Utah already has the information. There are many private
researchers in and near Salt Lake City who could probably find information faster
and less costly than researchers based in Italy and Sicily. Maight I suggest
trying the LDS site first to see if they have microfilm records for the Commune
being researched.

[bobbybats]

Albert,

You are so right. There is nothing that a professional
person or company can do for a researcher that a researcher
cannot do for themselves. If you do not have time to write
your letters and want to pay to have it done that is fine.
But do not think you cannot do it yourself. I always felt
that the thrill of having the postal carrier arrive at my
house with a letter from Italia with information that I
wrote for made it more exciting and satisfying. It was like
a personal accomplishment. I remember when I started doing
research how excited I was when papers of my ancestors
arrived from Italia. I knew that Bobbybats had searched and
found them himself.

But, I understand some people do not have the time.

[Sherri Hartlen]

I really feel the need to explain myself here...

> Albert Vallone wrote: I wonder how many are paying US $50 per hour plus expenses

> for research in Italy when the LDS in Utah already has the information.

Yes, I have been through the LDS records. Yes, they have film for the area of Italy
I'm investigating. No, my family has not yet been found in any of these records
because I haven't gotten far enough back in my family history for the files to be
useful to me. I have never paid anyone $50 an hour for research... I do all of my
research myself. I use various researchers, as well as government agencies, to get
actual copies of the documents. So far all I've been paying the Italian researcher is
$15 per document. While that's a little more than what the government agency charges
me, the slightly extra cost is worth it when you consider that the documents also
arrive with a translation... not all of us speak Italian.

One final thought, I would use American researchers when I'm doing American research.
Frankly, I feel more comfortable using researchers who are closer to the source and
know the people and the culture I'm dealing with better than I do. Though, frankly,
doing the research yourself is much more fun and really the whole purpose of a
genealogical exercise, isn't it?

[DeLotto]

The LDS (while uniformly helpful and friendly, to my experience) misses a
lot.... especially up north.
Cordially,
Rick De Lotto