LDS and Irish RC records
Msbsb
My ancestors are from a Catholic parish in Ireland whose records have not been
filmed by the LDS church. Does anyone know why some records are filmed and
others are not, and what the chances are of ever having them all filmed?
Mary Ellen Grogan
We need to know what parish you are researching in order to really help
you. The short answer is that most of the Catholic Parish Registers in
the Republic were filmed. In order to find them in the LDS catalog,
you must search under the name of the Catholic parish. The Catholic
Parish name is not the same as the Civil Parish name. The Catholic
Parish Registers were only indexed once - you will not find them under
any subheading (i.e., county, town, church records, etc.).
Records for some of the dioceses are closed and you must get permission
from the Archbishop to view them. These dioceses are: Cashel and Emly
(Tipperary), Cloyne (Cork), Killarney (Kerry), and Limerick.
Permission is ordinarily granted, but the microfilms must be viewed at
the National Library.
The Tipperary Heritage Unit is authorized by the Diocese to conduct
research in the records of Cashel and Emly. They have a web site.
Many of the parish records for Cork and Kerry were published in Dr.
Albert E. Casey's series "O'Kief, Coshe Mang, Slieve Lougher, and Upper
Blackwater in Ireland". Volumes 1-14 are available on microfilm from
LDS.
Research in Catholic records for Armagh is limited to requests to
Armagh Ancestry.
The records for a small number of parishes in the Republic and the
records in Northern Ireland were not filmed because permission was not
given. I do not know of any current plans to attempt to fill the gaps.
It is possible that the Heritage Centres (privately run research
services) may have been given access to the records and have some
information available from parish records that are not available to
other researchers.
Mary Ellen Grogan
Boston
Tom Perrett
On 25 Mar 1998 18:48:47 -0800, Msbsb wrote:
:>My ancestors are from a Catholic parish in Ireland whose records have not been
:>filmed by the LDS church. Does anyone know why some records are filmed and
:>others are not,
Whether they are filmed or not is due to what
the local priest and/or bishop think about it.
Cheers, Tom <to...@st.net.au> Tom Perrett
Ellen Naliboff
The National Library of Ireland did the original microfilming, the
Family History Library purchased those records. In some cases, the
Mormons also microfilmed the records in Ireland.
A few Bishops and Parish Priests have not made the records available for
general viewing, which is their right.
I made a listing of the microfilms and given them to the webmasters of
the genweb pages. This gives civil parish/RC parish name, time period,
and FHLC#.
Ellen
Msbsb
Many thanks to everyone who replied to my question about the Irish RC records.
So this seems to be my situation:
1. The parish registers I need are not available through the LDS libraries.
2. They are, however, available through the local Heritage Center
in......County Clare, by many accounts the worst of the lot!!! The price for
their search I could probably live with, since I know from other people's
postings what the total ends up to be, but the year-long wait is the big
bummer.
Wonder what's worse -- not knowing where your Irish ancestors came from, or
knowing exactly where they came from and not being able to get at the records?
<g> Thanks again, everyone!
LawlerC
Keep in mind that what the National Library has on microfilm is the parish's
earliest registers (the year varies from parish to parish, but many are the
1860s) and run until 1880 only. If you want any post 1880, you have to write
to the parish priest or the local heritage centre.
Julyiri
I believe the Family History Center has a microfilm of the Croom Parish (Roman
Catholic) of Limerick's parish register.....Do you know if a copy of the
microfilm would be available for purchase??? Or, if there is anyone who would
be willing to photocopy the records for a given period of time??? Who should I
address this quesiton to?? Any help would be great!! thanks...
GwenM10100
The parish records were in cotrol of the clergy. If the Bishop did not allow
filming the LDS could not do it. The Irish genealogical project was designed to
collect and computerize all records prior to 1900 and provide research services
at local Heritage Centers for a Fee. The public is not allowed access at those
centers. While copies are returned to the local churches the original
registers are not. It is unlikely in view of the IGP that further filming by
LDS will be permitted a great pity.