RIC Roster Research - About 1909

Question Quigley

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Jan 2, 2010, 10:44:01 PM1/2/10

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Perhaps someone can help me.

Mt paternal grandfather was James O'Regan (or Regan) and was living in
Labasheeda, County Clare at the time of his marriage to my grandmother, Nora
Ryan during June, 1909. The wedding certificate lists him as being a member
of the RIC but does not list a barracks. The 1911 census of Clare does NOT
have him living in Labasheeda with his wife. He may have been in the
Mountjoy area of County Dublin living with his married sister (Delia Quinn)
and her husband, according to the 1911 census. I can't say I am 100% sure
that it is him, but things lie up pretty well.

QUESTION: Are there any good resources that list the RIC rosters for that
time period - say 1905 to 1911?

Is there a listing of the RIC barracks throughout Ireland for that period?

Thanks,

Dennis

doregan at verizon dot net

Dennis Ahern

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:43:04 AM1/3/10

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One thing to keep in mind when researching members of the Royal Irish
Constabulary, and that is that a new recruit would be posted to a county
distant from his home county and relations. If he married a local girl he
would subsequently be reassigned to yet another distant county. This was
to avoid any influence being brought to bear by or against his relations.

See: http://www.psni.police.uk/museum/text/ric.htm
The Royal Irish Constabulary

http://www.pro.gov.uk/leaflets/ri011.htm
Records Of The Royal Irish Constabulary

Dennis Ahern

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:51:36 AM1/3/10

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See "The Royal Irish Constabulary; a Short History and Genealogical
Guide" by Jim Herlihy, co-founder of the Garda Museum, Dublin Castle.
You can also contact Jim Herlihy, 8 Aisling Close, Ballincollig, Co. Cork,
Ireland, (E-mail: j_he...@esatclear.ie).

Paperback #14.95/$27.50 plus postage and packaging. In USA it can be
obtained from International Specialized Book Services, Porltand, Oregon.
To order the book in North America, contact: ord...@isbs.com

Also: "The Royal Irish Constabulary: A Complete Alphabetical List of
Officers and Men 1816-1922" published by Four Courts Press, Dublin, 1999
ISBN 1-85182-502-9 Hardback, pp. xxxiv, 488; price #30.00 (in Ireland)

See: http://www.four-courts-press.ie
Four Courts Press

http://policehistory.com
Garda Siochï¿œna Museum/Archives

Also, if you Google Garda Sï¿œochï¿œna Museum Archives you will get pointers
to information about the records held at Dublin Castle. They have all the
RIC service records on microfilm.

-dja

Michael Danahy

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:30:49 AM1/3/10

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For records of the Royal Irish Constabulary, you have to deal with
Her Majesty's Archives in Kew Gardens or online.

Question Quigley

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:16:46 PM1/3/10

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Dennis and Michael, thank you so very much for your leads.

I had the suspicion that RIC members were not posted to their home counties
by looking at various rosters. My grandfather's family appears to have been
from the Waterford area, so he may have been posted in Clare. Possibly,
that is how he met my grandmother.

Again,

Thank you,

Dennis M. O'Regan
Wyomissing, PA, USA

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>
> See "The Royal Irish Constabulary; a Short History and Genealogical
> Guide" by Jim Herlihy, co-founder of the Garda Museum, Dublin Castle.
> You can also contact Jim Herlihy, 8 Aisling Close, Ballincollig, Co. Cork,
> Ireland, (E-mail: j_he...@esatclear.ie).
>
> Paperback #14.95/$27.50 plus postage and packaging. In USA it can be
> obtained from International Specialized Book Services, Porltand, Oregon.
> To order the book in North America, contact: ord...@isbs.com
>
> Also: "The Royal Irish Constabulary: A Complete Alphabetical List of
> Officers and Men 1816-1922" published by Four Courts Press, Dublin, 1999
> ISBN 1-85182-502-9 Hardback, pp. xxxiv, 488; price #30.00 (in Ireland)
>
> See: http://www.four-courts-press.ie
> Four Courts Press
>
> http://policehistory.com

> Garda Sioch�na Museum/Archives
>
> Also, if you Google Garda S�och�na Museum Archives you will get pointers

Question Quigley

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:22:50 PM1/5/10

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Dennis and Michael, thank you for your assistance.

Dennis

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>

> See "The Royal Irish Constabulary; a Short History and Genealogical
> Guide" by Jim Herlihy, co-founder of the Garda Museum, Dublin Castle.
> You can also contact Jim Herlihy, 8 Aisling Close, Ballincollig, Co. Cork,
> Ireland, (E-mail: j_he...@esatclear.ie).
>
> Paperback #14.95/$27.50 plus postage and packaging. In USA it can be
> obtained from International Specialized Book Services, Porltand, Oregon.
> To order the book in North America, contact: ord...@isbs.com
>
> Also: "The Royal Irish Constabulary: A Complete Alphabetical List of
> Officers and Men 1816-1922" published by Four Courts Press, Dublin, 1999
> ISBN 1-85182-502-9 Hardback, pp. xxxiv, 488; price #30.00 (in Ireland)
>
> See: http://www.four-courts-press.ie
> Four Courts Press
>
> http://policehistory.com

> Garda Sioch�na Museum/Archives
>
> Also, if you Google Garda S�och�na Museum Archives you will get pointers

bealach isteach

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:57:44 AM1/7/10

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Dennis,
It has been reported that the on-line 1911 Census is to be extended to
enable searching by new attributes such as Religion, Occupation etc. -
supposedly sometime in 2010. This should help narrow your search.

regards
Michael

barry

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Jan 8, 2010, 5:16:46 AM1/8/10

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I tried to send this the day the message appeared but its just now bounced
back to me as undelivered - hmmmm

Dennis and others

A few years ago for �1 you could ask Libraries in the UK to Interloan Books
from participating Libraries and that Included Eire.

For �1 I obtained this book through this system but could only read it in
the Reference Library, however the second time I requested it I was allowed
to bring it home as the copy was from somewhere else.

I now Believe the fee for this Service is now �5 but not sure if its a �1
deposit in case the Book you request cannot be obtained.

I had a couple from Dublin via the Old service and as I say I also looked at
this one twice..

Barry

Also: "The Royal Irish Constabulary: A Complete Alphabetical List of
Officers and Men 1816-1922" published by Four Courts Press, Dublin, 1999
ISBN 1-85182-502-9 Hardback, pp. xxxiv, 488; price #30.00 (in Ireland)

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The Chief

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Jan 8, 2010, 2:36:48 PM1/8/10

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Dennis,
Why don't you just look at his RIC service record. Available on
microfilm at all Mormon FHCs.
Regards,
The Chief

Question Quigley

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Jan 9, 2010, 12:23:29 PM1/9/10

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Thanks, Barry.

I'm in the US so getting an interlibrary loan looks to be out of the
question. However, all of the references offered are great places to start.

If you responded to my "Question Quigley" e-mail address, that is a fake to
protect me from spam. I will usually put my correct e-mail address in as a
broken string at the end of the e-mail.

Dennis

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