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Mike

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Oct 14, 2007, 5:36:53 PM10/14/07
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What does it mean? I've seen examples like Oppenheimer, Westheimer, and
Mearsheimer etc. Does it point to a region, is it hypocoristic,
occupational?

Thanks.


Lutz Engelhardt

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Oct 14, 2007, 5:56:57 PM10/14/07
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> What does it mean? I've seen examples like Oppenheimer, Westheimer, and
> Mearsheimer etc. Does it point to a region, is it hypocoristic,
> occupational?

The suffix -heim is used in German place names. So if you have a person
with the suffix -heimer in the name it means, that an ancestor of this
person long time ago lived in a place like Mannheim, Oppenheim or
whatever. When he moved to another place people called him the man from
Mannheim, Oppenheim etc, which is in German Mannheimer, Oppenheimer etc.

Best regards,

Lutz Engelhardt

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Richard van Schaik

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Oct 14, 2007, 6:09:22 PM10/14/07
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Lutz Engelhardt wrote:

>>What does it mean? I've seen examples like Oppenheimer, Westheimer, and
>>Mearsheimer etc. Does it point to a region, is it hypocoristic,
>>occupational?
>
>
> The suffix -heim is used in German place names. So if you have a person
> with the suffix -heimer in the name it means, that an ancestor of this
> person long time ago lived in a place like Mannheim, Oppenheim or
> whatever. When he moved to another place people called him the man from
> Mannheim, Oppenheim etc, which is in German Mannheimer, Oppenheimer etc.

Does a place named Alzheim also exsist? (And then why the naming to a
malfunctioning of the brain)

Richard

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Richard van Schaik

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Oct 14, 2007, 6:11:55 PM10/14/07
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Richard van Schaik wrote:

> Lutz Engelhardt wrote:
>
>>> What does it mean? I've seen examples like Oppenheimer, Westheimer, and
>>> Mearsheimer etc. Does it point to a region, is it hypocoristic,
>>> occupational?
>>
>>
>>
>> The suffix -heim is used in German place names. So if you have a person
>> with the suffix -heimer in the name it means, that an ancestor of this
>> person long time ago lived in a place like Mannheim, Oppenheim or
>> whatever. When he moved to another place people called him the man from
>> Mannheim, Oppenheim etc, which is in German Mannheimer, Oppenheimer etc.
>
>
> Does a place named Alzheim also exsist? (And then why the naming to a
> malfunctioning of the brain)

Oops, forgot, personal curiosity. So answer in private as this is surely
OT for genealogy.

Nicholas Adams

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Oct 14, 2007, 6:19:22 PM10/14/07
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Richard van Schaik <f.m.a.vans...@THISwanadoo.nl> schrieb:

>Lutz Engelhardt wrote:
>
>>>What does it mean? I've seen examples like Oppenheimer, Westheimer, and
>>>Mearsheimer etc. Does it point to a region, is it hypocoristic,
>>>occupational?
>>
>>
>> The suffix -heim is used in German place names. So if you have a person
>> with the suffix -heimer in the name it means, that an ancestor of this
>> person long time ago lived in a place like Mannheim, Oppenheim or
>> whatever. When he moved to another place people called him the man from
>> Mannheim, Oppenheim etc, which is in German Mannheimer, Oppenheimer etc.
>
>Does a place named Alzheim also exsist? (And then why the naming to a
>malfunctioning of the brain)
>
>Richard


ROTFLOL

Nick

Richard van Schaik

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Oct 14, 2007, 6:34:55 PM10/14/07
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Nicholas Adams wrote:

> ROTFLOL

Y.W.,

Keith nuttle

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Oct 14, 2007, 7:43:53 PM10/14/07
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Richard van Schaik wrote:

> Lutz Engelhardt wrote:
>
>>> What does it mean? I've seen examples like Oppenheimer, Westheimer, and
>>> Mearsheimer etc. Does it point to a region, is it hypocoristic,
>>> occupational?
>>
>>
>>
>> The suffix -heim is used in German place names. So if you have a person
>> with the suffix -heimer in the name it means, that an ancestor of this
>> person long time ago lived in a place like Mannheim, Oppenheim or
>> whatever. When he moved to another place people called him the man from
>> Mannheim, Oppenheim etc, which is in German Mannheimer, Oppenheimer etc.
>
>
> Does a place named Alzheim also exsist? (And then why the naming to a
> malfunctioning of the brain)
>
> Richard
>

Per Google; Alz, Germany is about 30 mile north west of Salzburg, in
southern Germany

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Lutz Engelhardt

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Oct 14, 2007, 9:36:25 PM10/14/07
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>> Does a place named Alzheim also exsist? (And then why the naming to a
>> malfunctioning of the brain)
>
> Oops, forgot, personal curiosity. So answer in private as this is surely
> OT for genealogy.

The last question doubtlessly is as much OT as unnecessary as it can be
answered with a quick view into Wikipedia or Google: the disease is
named after the scientist Dr med Alois Alzheimer (btw whose wife's
maiden name was another -heimer name: Cecilie Geisenheimer).

The basic question about the development of names (family names) over
the centuries and generations is not the main question in genealogy, but
it still has to do a lot with genealogy. Over all a family name, which
is not so common and may be concentrated in an area might give a hint to
where the family came from originally.

There is a place called Alzheim indeed. But this place name exists only
since 1969, when it was built by the fusion of the former places Allenz
and Berresheim. This Alzheim today is part of the city of Mayen.

But there is an old place called Alsheim, which might have been the
place where Alois Alzheimer's ancestors were living many generations
ago. And there is another place in the same county which is called Alzey
and which also might have been the interesting place of origin, if the
name developed as Alzeymer-Alzeimer-Alzheimer. As you know orthography
was quite unknown in older German and everyone who could write (in many
cases the priest was the only person who could read and write) wrote a
name down as he heard it or as he thought it would be right.

So as with most names you can just speculate where it comes from. But
sometimes you find a highlight like in one case of an American family
with German ancestors, where we could trace the name back to a single
farm (or a few houses) on a hill in the southwest of Germany.

Hoping this helps,

Traugott Vitz

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Oct 15, 2007, 3:10:06 AM10/15/07
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Keith nuttle schrieb:

> Per Google; Alz, Germany is about 30 mile north west of Salzburg, in
> southern Germany

I don't know how you can say that. "Alz" is the name of a German river,
joining river "Inn" near Marktl am Inn (the place where the current pope
was born). Neither the German nor the Austrian post code directory have
an entry for "Alz".

Traugott

Zwenny

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Oct 23, 2007, 6:19:00 PM10/23/07
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The answer to the question: the meaning of heim? Is very simpel and is not
answered yet.
Heim means in German and Dutch dialect something like "home", hometown etc.

In Dutch we have the word heimwee (homesick).

Cy

Richard van Schaik schreef:

> Nicholas Adams wrote:

> Y.W.,
> Richard

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Mike

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Oct 24, 2007, 1:51:27 AM10/24/07
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"Zwenny" <zwennek...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Heim means in German and Dutch dialect something like "home", hometown
etc.

Is heim similar to the English Ham or Hamlet, as in Sandringham, Gorham, or
even Northhampton?


Bernd J. Kaup

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Oct 24, 2007, 9:17:34 AM10/24/07
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in context with a location "-heim" and "-ham" have indeed the same
meaning, so that a name ending "-heimer" would mean that that ancestors
of the name bearer were called after their place of living as the "-er"
generally means "belonging to", "in context/connection with"

mfg
bjk

christin...@gmail.com

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U FORGOT NAUHEIMER U NIT WITS!!!!!!!!!
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