Sandra Karnes wrote:
> Need to know where the Rhine river flows through (or near) the Black
> Forest area of what was Bavaria in 1868..Thanks, Sandra in TX
Go to http://www.expediamaps.com and get yourself a beautiful map of
what you're searching for.
The Rhine River is pretty clearly defined.
Let's skip "the Black Forest" for now.
Bavaria as you see it on a map today is not near the Rhine River.
However, from 1818 to 1945 there was an area called the Palatinate
(German: Pfalz) that was located along and west of the Rhine. If you saw
"Bavaria" on official records and hearsay mentions the Rhine River, this
would be the area referred to.
In the area west of the Rhine there is a little-known area called the
Schwarzwaelder Hochwald near Losheim, Wadern, Noonweiler, and Boerfink.
This would be translated as the "Black Forest High Forest." There is a
slim chance this is what is being referred to.
Most likely, though, the forest in the family lore is the Schwarzwald, the
Black Forest, which is on the other side (east side) of the Rhine River.
The use of Black Forest probably was intended to place it generally in
southwestern Germany as opposed to southeastern Germany, which is where
Bavaria (old Bavaria; Bavaria within today's borders) is located.
Look in the present state of Rheinland-Pfalz, not the present state of Bayern.
--
Ernest Thode, Washington County Public Library,
Marietta, OH 45750-1973
bs...@freenet.carleton.ca
>Ernest Thode, Washington County Public Library,
Thank you for the information. I didn't ask the question, but your answer
explains a problem I've had, regarding a family story. My ancestor, Joseph
Schneider was said to have lived in Erlanbach, Bavaria and walked through the
Black Forest to peddle his wares.
It appears to have been correct information.
Barbara
In his 1855 naturalization papers, my German ancestor, Simon NEUFELD
(1824-1881), renounced allegience to the King of Bavaria; I also knew that
he was from Erlenbach. For years I struggled with the problem of looking
in BAVARIA for the town of Erlenbach... No success! Then, I read a
history that indicated that the Pfalz area was a disjunct area which had
been under the administrative control of Bavaria.
When I looked in the Pfalz area, Voila! There it was ERLENBACH-BEI-DAHN.
Paul Newfield (4 generations down from Simon Neufeld)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I was luckier. I knew Erlenbach was in Pfalz, but couldn't understand how it
could be in Bavaria. I sent a message to this newsgroup and received several
answers explaining the two Bararian districts. It was the proximity of
another Black Forest that cleared up a big question for me.
Barbara