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German settlement Bellville, St. Clair County Illinois

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OOREROOM

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Dec 8, 2002, 1:53:49 AM12/8/02
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Are there others whose Ancestors settled in the Bellville?
Are there any folks here whose relatives from Bellville or
other places in Illinois served in the 82nd Illinois volunteer
infantry, named the Second Hecker Regiment, in honor
of Colonel Frederick Hecker, its first colonel, and formerly
of the Twenty-fourth Illinois Infantry Volunteers, was, like
the latter, almost exclusively composed of German members
and a Chicago organization.
I would like any information available.
Robert
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Oliver Voß

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Dec 11, 2002, 11:19:14 AM12/11/02
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The town of Belleville has a partnership with the town of Paderborn in
Germany. More informations can be found here:

<http://www.paderborn.de/partnerstaedte/partner1.htm#anchor48>

and here:

<http://www.belleville.net>

hth.

Greetings,


Oliver

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OOREROOM

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Dec 12, 2002, 2:39:10 PM12/12/02
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>The town of Belleville has a partnership with the town of Paderborn in
>Germany. More informations can be found here:
>

Thank you!
Robert

MontyKnapp

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Dec 18, 2002, 10:58:23 PM12/18/02
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My german ancestors (Knapp) settled near Bellville (St. Clair County) around
1854. Some moved to Effingham County and then to Decatur (Macon County) -
which is my present family. I've just started tracing my ancestors (maybe at
it for 1 month). I haven't found any information regarding military service -
but if I do, I'll let you know.

Have you found any good places to trace the line back in Germany? My people
apparently came from Hesse Darmstadt but I haven't yet found those settlers
parents and grandparents in Germany..

c...@teleport.com

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Dec 19, 2002, 9:58:46 AM12/19/02
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In article <20021218225823...@mb-fq.news.cs.com>,
monty...@cs.com (MontyKnapp) wrote:

Try to find the obituaries, either church or newspaper. It was very
common for those to list the town of birth in Germany. church records
like that got be "into" Germany in two of my lines.

Kajukenb

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Dec 19, 2002, 1:13:57 PM12/19/02
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I found the best place to get information on ancestors is the Belleville Public
Library, as they have a great genealogical department.
http://www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/BPL.htm
Here are some more useful sites:

St. Clair County, Illinois Addresses for Genealogical Research
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilstclai/address.htm

Southwest Illinois News - Belleville, Illinois
http://www.swi-news.com/SWI-Belle.htm

ST. CLAIR COUNTY GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY
http://www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/stcabout.htm

The ST. CLAIR COUNTY GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY will have a speaker on Thursday, 3
April 2003, 7:30 PM - "Speaker and Topic - Germans from Hanover, Buren and
Paderborn to St. Clair County and Illinois by Dr. Heinz Marxkors, resident of
Bielefeld, Germany and author of more than 16 books of vital stats extracted
from Catholic church registers in the Hanover area. Many of these immigrants
settled in St. Libory and surrounding Illinois counties. "
I just wish I could attend this lecture.

In the 1850's many Germans emmigranted to the are around Belleville because of
all the inexpensive farmland. Just get out a map and look at some of the town
names: Paderborn, Germantown,
New Baden, Wertenberg, Rentchler, Bekenmeyer.
Also, be sure to use your local Family History Center as they have a wealth of
information.

My German ancestors immigrated in 1860 and were from Delbrueck, Westfalen (near
Paderborn); they settled in Damiansville, about 25 miles from Belleville.

Larry

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Dec 19, 2002, 11:09:37 PM12/19/02
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I don't have any direct connection to this area, but a number of my
correspondents are from that Belleville area. The guess of Hessen-Darmstadt
is a good one. Martha Mae Schmidt has transcribed something like 1300 pages
of church records from files onto her computer sand provides copies for a
reasonable costs.

Also the LDS films of those German towns in that area often go back to the
early 1600's What's needed is to find the actual towns of origin. There are
a number of books by German societies over there of EMIgrants from Hessen,
and there's a nice 5 or so volumes by Ella Gieg, an English speaking
postmistress from Rimhorn, of emigrants to the USA.

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Brendan R. Wehrung

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Dec 20, 2002, 12:11:59 AM12/20/02
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Larry (NO-larr...@eznet.net) writes:
> I don't have any direct connection to this area, but a number of my
> correspondents are from that Belleville area. The guess of Hessen-Darmstadt
> is a good one. Martha Mae Schmidt has transcribed something like 1300 pages
> of church records from files onto her computer sand provides copies for a
> reasonable costs.
>
> Also the LDS films of those German towns in that area often go back to the
> early 1600's What's needed is to find the actual towns of origin. There are
> a number of books by German societies over there of EMIgrants from Hessen,
> and there's a nice 5 or so volumes by Ella Gieg, an English speaking
> postmistress from Rimhorn, of emigrants to the USA.
>

It's not germane to the immediate topic, but at least one Alsatian
(German-speaking) family also settled in Belleville:

b] Philipp Wehrung
b 23 Floreal IX (13 May 1801) (Drulingen, Bas-Rhin, FRA)
d 27 Aug 1874 (St. Clair Co., IL)
m Catharina Heckel, 24 Jan 1837
b 3 Nov 1806 (Burbach, Bas-Rhin, FRA)
d 17 May 1891 (St. Clair Co., IL)
issue:
B} Philipp Heinrich Wehrung
b 5 Jan 1839 (Drulingen FRA)
m Sophia Wagner, 6 Nov 1864

Henry Wehrung apparently served in the
Civil War. Sophia, the widow of Henry P.
Wehrung filed for a widow's pension on
January 11, 1904 (application #797943;
certificate #568033).

E} Louisa Wehrung
b 18 Oct 1844 (Drulingen, FRA)
d 1 April 1920 (St. Clair Co., IL)
m Conrad Keller, 19 Jan 1867 (????)

F} Charlotta Wehrung
b 18 Sept 1846 (Drulingen, FRA)
m Johann Merod, 5 Feb 1865


I'd be interested in talking to anybody who knows more about them.

I'm always curious why an immigrant should settle here instead of there.
Would an Alsatian have heard of a German-speaking colony, or was there
already an Alsatian presence?

Brendan

c...@teleport.com

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Dec 20, 2002, 11:26:10 AM12/20/02
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I have a large numbger of Bauer's who settled just east of Bellville.
They came from Winzerhausen north of Stuttgart. I have traced several
of the lines almost to 1400, so the records for that area are quite good.

OOREROOM

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Dec 22, 2002, 1:49:01 AM12/22/02
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I am looking for information concerning
the descendants of Pfarrer Justus Jacob Balthasar Hoppe and both of his wives.
His fist wife was Dorothea Auguste Hoppe (nee: von der Tabelentz, called Doska)
and
his second wife, Sophia W.Hoppe (nee: Luckner) to whom he was married about a
year after Doska died.
Jacob, as the Reverend Hoppe was called, was the pastor of three different
churches in St. Clair County, one in Belleville and one in Freeburg(sp?). Both
of those churches are called St. Paul and are still active. I don't know the
name or location of the third church.
Doska bore him eight children, the oldest,
a daughter died of Smallpox aboard ship on the way to the United States in 1849
and was burried, by the good graces of the Governer of a Danish co;ony on St.
Croix
which is now part of the US Virgin Islands.
Hedwig, their youngest, died in Germany
(I believe it was in Prussia).
I have much information about Doska's family in Germany and am in contact with
them, but I have very little information about the Hoppe family in Germany or
the United States.
If there is anyone who lives in the Belleville area who could do some paid
research for me, I would surely like to hear from them.
Robert

joe

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Dec 22, 2002, 2:22:08 PM12/22/02
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For some ideas on locating your German ancestor's hometown in Germany see...

Basic Research Outline for German Genealogy
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/outline.html

Scroll down to where it says, "Find your Immigrant Ancestor."

Good luck with your search.

Regards,
Joe

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Oct 11, 2017, 11:50:54 PM10/11/17
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This is a very old thread but just happened to come across it so I'll share! My husband's ancestors were William Frederick Joseph Schwartz b. 1837 in Baden and d. in St. Clair Co. He married Maria Anna Nesselbush (1840-1915)in St. Louis, MO on 25 Oct 1867. Twelve children were born to them, 9 survived to adulthood. The family raised their children in St. Clair Co. Their son and my husband's direct ancestor, Henry Joseph, is buried (per death cert)at Ritz Cemetery in St.Clair Co. However, no one has ever been able to tell me where this cemetery is exactly. His mother and some siblings are buried at Mount Hope Cemetery in Belleville and infant children at St. Michaels Cemetery in Paderborn. William and Maria Anna immigrated to the US in 1856 and 1859, respectively.
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