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johnill...@verizon.net

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Apr 23, 2008, 9:41:52 PM4/23/08
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I recently found these two abbreviations on a death certificate: O.W.
and dis'd. Can someone please tell me what they mean? While O.W.
probably means out of wedlock, I have no idea what dis'd means.
Thanks!

John Illenberger

Ryan Taber

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Apr 23, 2008, 9:48:59 PM4/23/08
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Disabled? I have no idea why that would be important on a death
certificate, but it's an idea.

Also, are these German or English records?

Ryan

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LNie...@navix.net

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Apr 23, 2008, 10:08:02 PM4/23/08
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We need to know the whole context, in order to analyze them. If O.W. is
German it wouldn't stand for out of wedlock, and I doubt if out of wedlock
would be on a Death Certificate written in English unless the deceased was
an infant or very young child.

I thought of disabled too--but tell us more! :-)

Lila

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> Disabled? I have no idea why that would be important on a death
> certificate, but it's an idea.
>
> Also, are these German or English records?
>
> Ryan
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Charles Ellson

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Apr 23, 2008, 10:19:54 PM4/23/08
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Where on the death registration do these details appear ? They could
mean very different things in different sections. The rest of the
relevant section is also important for proper interpretation; if these
were in the "cause of death" then O.W. might be e.g. "Old Wound" and
"dis'd" could be "diseased" or something entirely different when
accompanied by words which suggest otherwise.

Hermanw

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Apr 24, 2008, 12:34:10 AM4/24/08
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If these certificates were in English the abbreviation dis'd probably
means disceased

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Apr 24, 2008, 1:16:09 PM4/24/08
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On 24 Apr 2008 04:34:10 GMT, herman...@hotdak.net (Hermanw) wrote:

>If these certificates were in English the abbreviation dis'd probably
>means disceased
>

ITYM "deceased". Without the surrounding context "dis'd" could mean
lots of things such as e.g. [body] discovered, diseased, [treatment]
discontinued, etc.

johnill...@verizon.net

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On Apr 23, 10:08 pm, <LNiema...@navix.net> wrote:
> We need to know the whole context, in order to analyze them. If O.W. is
> German it wouldn't stand for out of wedlock, and I doubt if out of wedlock
> would be on a Death Certificate written in English unless the deceased was
> an infant or very young child.
>
> I thought of disabled too--but tell us more! :-)
>
> Lila
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> > Disabled? I have no idea why that would be important on a death
> > certificate, but it's an idea.
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> > Also, are these German or English records?
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> > Ryan
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> > On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:41 PM, johnillenber...@verizon.net wrote:
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> >> I recently found these two abbreviations on a death certificate: O.W.
> >> and dis'd. Can someone please tell me what they mean? While O.W.
> >> probably means out of wedlock, I have no idea what dis'd means.
> >> Thanks!
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Sorry for the brevity. This is for a male relative who died in the
Bronx, New York in 1936. Under Father's Name is (dis'd) O.W. and under
Mother's Name is Emma Stiebeling, (dis'd).

John Illenberger

LNie...@navix.net

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Apr 24, 2008, 7:36:50 PM4/24/08
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Thanks for clarifying.

If the deceased used the mother's name as his surname, it seems likely that
O.W. means Out of Wedlock. If not, maybe someone else will come up with a
guess.

As for "dis'd" maybe it means deceased and the person who filled out the
form was misspelling: diceased. That seems like a stretch. Do you know
whether the mother was deceased when her son died? If not, my guess won't
work.

Lila

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Ryan Taber

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Apr 24, 2008, 11:47:17 PM4/24/08
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O.W. could simply be the father's initials...

>>> <LNie...@navix.net> 4/24/2008 6:36 PM >>>
Thanks for clarifying.

If the deceased used the mother's name as his surname, it seems likely that
O.W. means Out of Wedlock. If not, maybe someone else will come up with a
guess.

As for "dis'd" maybe it means deceased and the person who filled out the
form was misspelling: diceased. That seems like a stretch. Do you know
whether the mother was deceased when her son died? If not, my guess won't
work.

Lila

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johnill...@verizon.net

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Apr 25, 2008, 7:43:09 PM4/25/08
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On Apr 24, 11:47 pm, "Ryan Taber" <Ryan.Ta...@valpo.edu> wrote:
> O.W. could simply be the father's initials...
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> >>> <LNiema...@navix.net> 4/24/2008 6:36 PM >>>

The father's name is not known! Also, I was in error on the date. The
boy died in 1889 - NOT 1936. I was going from memory. The Mother's
name was Emma Stiebeling, and the child's name was George Theodore
Albert Stiebeling. He died in New York City at 534 East 16th Street (a
tenement).

John Illenberger

johnill...@verizon.net

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Apr 25, 2008, 7:50:20 PM4/25/08
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On Apr 24, 1:16 pm, Charles Ellson <char...@ellson.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On 24 Apr 2008 04:34:10 GMT, hermanHAAL...@hotdak.net (Hermanw) wrote:
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> >If these certificates were in English the abbreviation dis'd probably
> >means disceased
>
> ITYM "deceased". Without the surrounding context "dis'd" could mean
> lots of things such as e.g. [body] discovered, diseased, [treatment]
> discontinued, etc.

This death certificate is for George Theodore Albert Stiebeling who
died in 1889 in New York Ciity as a small child. His father is NOT
known, although it said he was from Germany. Under Father's Name is


(dis'd) O.W. and under Mother's Name is Emma Stiebeling, (dis'd)

John Illenberger

Charles Ellson

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Apr 25, 2008, 8:26:42 PM4/25/08
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If the mother _was_ deceased then it might be that the registrar
couldn't spell but if she wasn't then we're still looking for another
interpretation.

johnill...@verizon.net

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The Mother is alive. She eventually married.

John Illenberger

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"dis'd" can't mean deceased because she was living after she gave
birth.
"O.W." does mean out-of-wedlock, according to the Dictionary of
Abbreviations.
4-27-2008
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JJ206

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Apr 27, 2008, 5:23:11 PM4/27/08
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I would like to add disabled to the list of possibles.

Lastly, here is a list I found.

http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/WO

WO Warrant Officer
WO Without
WO Work Order
WO Official Wrapper (Scott Catalogue prefix; philately)
WO Walk Out (real estate)
WO Walk Over (sports)
WO War Office
WO Warning Order
WO Wash Out
WO Washington Office
WO Waste Operation
WO Watch Officer
WO Weapons Officer
WO Weather Office
WO Week Of
WO Welsh Office (UK government)
WO Wetenschappelijk Onderwijs
WO Wide-Open
WO Wife Of
WO Wipe Out
WO Wipe-Off
WO Women's Ordination
WO Work Output (simple machines)
WO Workout
WO Workstation Operator
WO World Airways, Inc (IATA airline code)
WO Written Out (mathematics)

Jonathan

Richard van Schaik

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Apr 27, 2008, 5:30:28 PM4/27/08
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JJ206 wrote:

> john wrote:
>> I recently found these two abbreviations on a death certificate: O.W.
>> and dis'd. Can someone please tell me what they mean? While O.W.
>> probably means out of wedlock, I have no idea what dis'd means.
>
> I would like to add disabled to the list of possibles.
>
> Lastly, here is a list I found.
>
> http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/WO

Way out ;-) as it was O.W.

Richard

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JJ206

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Apr 29, 2008, 4:52:55 PM4/29/08
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Richard van Schaik wrote:
>> john wrote:
>>> I recently found these two abbreviations on a death certificate: O.W.
>>> and dis'd. Can someone please tell me what they mean? While O.W.
>>> probably means out of wedlock, I have no idea what dis'd means.
>>
>> I would like to add disabled to the list of possibles.
>>
>> Lastly, here is a list I found.
>>
>> http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/WO
>
> Way out ;-) as it was O.W.
>
> Richard

Oops, dyslexic moment there. (^:

Acronym Definition
OW Obstacle Warning
OW Obwalden (Swiss Half Canton)
OW Office of Water
OW Oh Well
OW Oil-Immersed Water-Cooled
OW Old Welsh
OW One Way
OW Only Widening
OW Ontario Works
OW Open Wire
OW Operating Wing
OW Optical Warning
OW Optical Window
OW Order-Wire
OW Ordinary Wave
OW Outdoor World
OW Outer Wing
OW Outer Worlds
OW Outwar (game)
OW Overweight

http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/OW

Jonathan

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