Help With My Roots
Alexander_ The_Great
roots. Last name is Doebler. Can anyone tell me what part of Germany
Doeblers resided, what was thier status (SS, pro Hitler, anti?) during
the war.
Hugh Watkins
time to read a book on how to do genealogy
start by entering all the data you know in a family tree programme
Your own birth certificate should have your father's name and occupation
then look at his naturalisation papers and what ship he took to USA . .
the manifest may well have an address in europe for his next of kinb
news:alt.genealogy better for the US end
Hugh W
Nicholas Adams
There are about 800 Doebler in the german telefon directory.
So, If you tell us which one your "cousin" is the right one, we'll
arrange for an interview with the MD of your GGrandfather:-).
Well, you've got to deliver more information.....
MfG
Nick
Henning Boettcher
"Hugh Watkins" <hugh.w...@gmail.com> schrieb
> Your own birth certificate should have your father's name and
occupation
>
Where did she come from?
Your own birth certificate should also have your place of birth.
Where was it?
Leider bin ich per Email NICHT erreichbar, aber Postings an die
Newsgroups de.sci.genealogie and soc.genealogy.german kann ich
lesen.
I am sorry, that I can't receive any email. But I can read postings
to the newsgroups de.sci.genealogie and soc.genealogy.german.
--
Kind regards
Henning Boettcher
Switzerland
Homepage: http://www.saxonyroots.com/boettche/
(universally applicable hints/German language only/ last
review:Mar.2008)
Joe Pessarra
news:6smoenF...@mid.individual.net...
>
> I am sorry, that I can't receive any email. But I can read postings
> to the newsgroups de.sci.genealogie and soc.genealogy.german.
>
> --
> Kind regards
> Henning Boettcher
> Switzerland
> Homepage: http://www.saxonyroots.com/boettche/
> (universally applicable hints/German language only/ last
> review:Mar.2008)
>
>
Henning,
Are you able to read many of the newsgroups besides the two above? Please
tell us again why you cannot receive emails.
Joe in Texas
Henry
familynames were given a certain status? "You are a Doebler, so you must
be SS" or something like that? Do you think that all Doebler must be
related? Even if they were related, don't you think that it is possible
that some people in the family might be pro Hitler whil others were anti?
Henry (also pretty great)
Richard van Schaik
I think Alexander the Great is pretty new to genealogy and does not know
yet that you should register them and whatever to be found about them
without putting labels on them. No human now living (apart from being
the one that performed some action his or herself in the past) can
envisage the circumstances as to why driven to whatever action or reaction.
Richard
--
Richard van Schaik
f.m.a.vans...@THISziggo.nl
http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/ Best wishes for 2009
Mail address changed repair to this on my site is being worked on
Alexander_ The_Great
Re: Help With My Roots
Group: soc.genealogy.german Date: Thu, Jan 8, 2009, 11:16pm (CST+7)
From: h.he...@tiscali.nl (Henry)
I was only asking a question. I never assumed the name had status. I was
only hoping someone "might" have known or know a Doebler and possibly
have a clue what part of germany most of them orginated from. I never
claimed to be a genealogy expert.
I didn't realize how many Doeblers exist throughout Gemany. So if anyone
doesn't want to help or just wants to throw insults or be cute, just
stay off the thread. If I had answers I wouldn't have come asking. For
those who offered real help, thank you very much.
Joe Pessarra
news:11959-496...@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net...
This site shows where Doeblers reside in Germany currently.
http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/en/Default.aspx
You don't say whether your father was German or American born, so it is
difficult to point you in the right direction for research. Do you know
when your German ancestor came to the USA? And what his full name was?
Joe in Texas
Annette/Len
I'm having a difficult time trying to determine exactly where my roots are in Germany, so I can't be more specific about the exact area of Germany. But, the area of Stettin, Germany seems to be the general location. I believe that is presently in Poland.
Annette
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Perhaps you should try Google.
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Ad
"Alexander_ The_Great" <Alexander...@webtv.net> schreef in bericht
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Alexander_ The_Great
Re: Help With My Roots
joepe...@suddenlink.net (Joe Pessarra)
Thanks Joe, I will go this site. My father Grayton Doebler was born in
Germany and came to the states somewhere around 1962. This is all I
know.
LNie...@navix.net
name. You might go through all 319 Doebler's and see if you find him with
just initials.
www.rootsweb.com
Lila
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander_ The_Great" <Alexander...@webtv.net>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.german
To: <gen...@rootsweb.com>
Richard van Schaik
> I looked at the Social Security Death Index and he can't be found under
> that name. You might go through all 319 Doebler's and see if you find
> him with just initials.
> www.rootsweb.com
Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued
G K DOEBLER 14 Apr 1920 Sep 1989 (not specified) (none specified)
165-16-0478 Pennsylvania
Only one with starting letter G
Richard van Schaik
> LNie...@navix.net wrote:
>> I looked at the Social Security Death Index and he can't be found
>> under that name. You might go through all 319 Doebler's and see if you
>> find him with just initials.
>> www.rootsweb.com
>
> Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued
> G K DOEBLER 14 Apr 1920 Sep 1989 (not specified) (none
> specified) 165-16-0478 Pennsylvania
>
> Only one with starting letter G
Sorry, search works different. There is one Graydon, but he died 1996 (I
think far to late to be the person searched for).
Henning Boettcher
"Joe Pessarra" <joepe...@suddenlink.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:49666359$0$5495$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
> "Henning Boettcher" <boet...@smile.ch> wrote in message
> news:6smoenF...@mid.individual.net...
> >
> > I am sorry, that I can't receive any email. But I can read
postings
>
Please
> tell us again why you cannot receive emails.
I didn't try to read other newsgroups.
There have been misunderstandings with my provider. Thats why he
disconnected me from receiving emails. So I now have no email
address.
Henning Boettcher
"Annette/Len" <Ocala...@embarqmail.com> schrieb ... ... ...
> But, the area of Stettin, Germany seems to be the general
location. I believe that is presently in Poland.
Yes, you are right with Poland. The name of the town is now Szcecin
instead of Stettin.
--
Joe Pessarra
news:9aa8b$4968c008$5ed11eac$24...@cache3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
> Richard van Schaik wrote:
>> LNie...@navix.net wrote:
>>> I looked at the Social Security Death Index and he can't be found under
>>> that name. You might go through all 319 Doebler's and see if you find
>>> him with just initials.
>>> www.rootsweb.com
>>
>> Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued
>> G K DOEBLER 14 Apr 1920 Sep 1989 (not specified) (none
>> specified) 165-16-0478 Pennsylvania
>>
>> Only one with starting letter G
>
> Sorry, search works different. There is one Graydon, but he died 1996 (I
> think far to late to be the person searched for).
>
> Richard
>
Probably true, Richard.
What we need is a little more info from "Alex".
Did your father become an America citizen? If he did, we might be able to
find his application for citizenship.
And, what year did he die, and where? We might be able to locate an
obituary.
We need as much info as you know, especially incidents and dates.
Joe
Mona
> American born german, Father died when I was 1. I know nothing of my
> roots. Last name is Doebler. Can anyone tell me what part of Germany
> Doeblers resided, what was thier status (SS, pro Hitler, anti?) during
> the war.
Alexander,
Have you found your father's death certificate? Does it mention his
place of birth? What about your parents' marriage certificate? If you
can find more details from US records, you'll be waaayyy ahead in
finding your roots in Germany.
Mona
--
Mona Houser
Herita...@sandyview.info
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/
Daria Wieczorek
> "Annette/Len" <Ocala...@embarqmail.com> schrieb ... ... ...
>> But, the area of Stettin, Germany seems to be the general
> location. I believe that is presently in Poland.
> Yes, you are right with Poland. The name of the town is now Szcecin
> instead of Stettin.
As a matter of fact the Polish name is Szczecin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szczecin
Daria
Vera Nagel
>From what I've so far read in this thread:
The given name "Grayton" is not German. May be he was named after his
father.
So I would assume he could be the (illegitimate) child of a German woman and
perhaps an American soldier. If that turns out to be true then
a) he was a German citizen by birth and later became naturalized in the US.
b) one would have to look for German relatives most probably in the more
southern parts of Germany where the majority of American soldiers was
stationed during WWII.
Beyond that I have a couple more questions to you which I personally
wouldn't discuss in a public newsgroup in order not to violate anybody's
privacy.
So in case you're seriously and honestly interested to find your German
roots / cousins then you're welcome to contact me directly (email address
see header) and I'd be happy to offer my help. I already successfully worked
in cases like this for a number of Americans.
Kind regards,
Vera Nagel, Bad Soden / Hessen, Germany
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Sent: Samstag, 10. Januar 2009 07:05
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Subject: Re: GEN-DE Help With My Roots
Alexander_ The_Great
Re: GEN-DE Help With My Roots
From: f.m.a.vans...@THISziggo.nl (Richard van Schaik)
LNie...@navix.net wrote:
I looked at the Social Security Death Index and he can't be found under
that name. You might go through all 319 Doebler's and see if you find
him with just initials.
www.rootsweb.com
Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN
Issued
G K DOEBLER 14 Apr 1920 Sep 1989 (not specified)
(none
specified) 165-16-0478 Pennsylvania
Only one with starting letter G
Sorry, search works different. There is one Graydon, but he died 1996 (I
think far to late to be the person searched for).
Richard
..Perhaps not. He was 37 when I was born in 1965. I was "told" he died
shortly after, but (long story) but there is skeptism in the family
about the truth of that.
Alexander_ The_Great
Re: GEN-DE Help With My Roots
joepe...@suddenlink.net (Joe Pessarra)
..It's a little complicated, and a lot of it is personal business that
I don't want to get into on the internet and a lot of the meat and
potatoes of his info were never told to me.
What I do know (I have birth certificate). is that he is the father, was
37 in 1965, and I was born in Memphis, TN. The signature is hard to read
but I'm sure it's Graydon but could be Grayton.
He was only dating my mom at the time and he worked in printing on a
heidelberg press, and the funny thing is, so do I. Supposingly he died
sometime after my birth. Where he died might be Memphis, I'm unsure, and
what year could be 1965-1968 are the best bets if indeed he died when I
was told. The info I have on him is sketchy and I was real young when
this "info" was given to me. Now I have no one to tell me, but you guys
have done a terrific job with clues and links, and I appreciate it.
I was told he came over from Germany in the 60's became a citizen. This
may or may not be true. His family could have already been here and he
was born here for all I know. This is info I can no longer get from my
mother's side of the family.
In any event, thanks all for your valuable time and research, and I have
been doing te same. I will check back in case someone hits on something.
Alexander_ The_Great
Re: Help With My Roots
Group: soc.genealogy.german Date: Sat, Jan 10, 2009, 5:33pm (CST+7)
From: det...@wannhoff.de (Detlef Wannhoff)
Today I found 804 families named Doebler in Germany. I will put an XLS
into this Mail with all Informations
Best regards
Detlef
Do you understand, nobody can talk about their status in ww2?
..Yes, I do (now). I'm having trouble with the link, but it's because
of this piece of trash called webtv. It's just an old back up, I have an
imac being fixed, get it back in about a week or so, I'll research it
then, or from work.Thanks.
"Alexander_ The_Great" <Alexander...@webtv.net> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag news:11959-496...@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net...
American born german, Father died when I was 1. I know nothing of my
roots. Last name is Doebler. Can anyone tell me what part of Germany
Doeblers resided, what was thier status (SS, pro Hitler, anti?) during
the war.
doebler_germany.xls (vnd.ms-excel attachment)
Gundemarie Scholz
> There have been misunderstandings with my provider. Thats why he
> disconnected me from receiving emails. So I now have no email
> address.
Would it be difficult for you to get a provider independent mail address,
for example with GMX? That would be usable both via web interface and via
your mail client Outlook Express. I would be happy to assist with setting it
up.
Kind regards,
Gunde
Henning Boettcher
"Gundemarie Scholz" <spamyo...@inbox.ru> schrieb
> Henning Boettcher wrote:
> > There have been ... ...> I would be happy to assist with setting
it
> up.
So please do that.
But:
I am living in Switzerland.
I am using WINDOWS 98 se and I don't want to change.
my postal address:
Dipl.-Ing.
Henning Böttcher
Erlenstr.2
CH-5442 Fislisbach
Switzerland
My native language is German.
Linda Kush
--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Richard van Schaik wrote:
"I think Alexander the Great is pretty new to genealogy and does not know
yet that you should register them and whatever to be found about them
without putting labels on them."
Richard, I agree with you. Alexander is just taking a first step and does not know where to start or what to look for..
Alexander the Great, when I first started researching my family, I was hoping for a magic formula to answer all my questions. I hope you enjoy finding your answers.
You do not mention how old you are and when your father died. It would make a big difference in the kinds of records you would search. Since you are asking about WWII, I assume that you are under 60 years old and your father died after the war.
If that is the case, do as others have suggested, starting with your own birth certificate. That will give you your parents' names and occupation, and probably their birth place.
Next, try to find your father's death certificate. You can get that from the county where he died. If he died less than 70 years ago, you may have to prove that he was your father. You may also find an obituary in archived newspapers in the city where he died. And it's a longshot, but perhaps that newspaper will have other stories about him.
>From the obituary, you will learn who his survivors were and possibly some biographical information.
Also, if you know where he died, you may find a list like this for that location. (For example, I belong to a list for Chicago) The folks on that list can direct you to government records, newspaper archives and the like.
Best of luck in your search, and keep us updated on your progress. Be prepared to do some digging, and above all, enjoy the process of discovery.
Best wishes,
Linda in Boston
Linda Kush
When did your father die?
Linda in Boston
--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Alexander_ The_Great <Alexander...@webtv.net> wrote:
From: Alexander_ The_Great <Alexander...@webtv.net>
Subject: Re: GEN-DE Help With My Roots
To: gen...@rootsweb.com
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 6:05 AM
Linda Kush
>From what you have said here, I would join a Tennessee or Memphis list and ask what death and newspaper records are online.
Also contact the printers union there. In the 1960s, nearly all pressmen were union members. Particularly since you are also a pressman, you might be able to convince someone to look up old records.
And check out the Graydon Doebler someone found in the SSDI death index, even thought he died well after you were told. If the birth year seems about right, he could be the guy.
There are some exceptions, but almost everyone who emigrates has a friend or relative in their new country. Check out Doeblers in Memphis or other places where you suspect he could have lived. And try city directories and phone books from the 1960s.
I know we are dumping a ton of information on you, and most of these ideas will lead to nothing, but one of them will work.
Best wishes,
Linda in Boston
--- On Sun, 1/11/09, Alexander_ The_Great <Alexander...@webtv.net> wrote:
From: Alexander_ The_Great <Alexander...@webtv.net>
Subject: Re: GEN-DE Help With My Roots
To: gen...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 7:21 AM
Lesley Robertson
>
> "Gundemarie Scholz" <spamyo...@inbox.ru> schrieb
>> Henning Boettcher wrote:
>> > There have been ... ...> I would be happy to assist with setting
> it
>> up.
>
> So please do that.
>
> But:
> I am living in Switzerland.
> I am using WINDOWS 98 se and I don't want to change.
> my postal address:
>
Lesley Robertson
Bob Melson
(l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl) opined:
Good point, Lesley! There are dozens, if not hundreds, of free email
providers out there, most all web-based and accessible via your browser.
The only one I would recommend _against_ is gmail - too many spammers, too
little response to spam reports, a less than helpful attitude.
(p)Seudonimous Ol' Bob
--
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable
reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford
Gundemarie Scholz
> "Gundemarie Scholz" <spamyo...@inbox.ru> schrieb
> > Henning Boettcher wrote:
> > > There have been ... ...> I would be happy to assist with setting
> > > it up.
>
> So please do that.
>
> But:
> I am living in Switzerland.
> I am using WINDOWS 98 se and I don't want to change.
Ok, I will call you tomorrow evening and walk with you through the steps.
GMX ask some personal details during the registration process that I am not
able to supply.
> My native language is German.
So is mine.
Regards,
Gunde
Michael Kenefick
The new PC should come with a newest operating system. Yes, you will have to
upgrade your genealogy software as well. Plus most any other item currently
installed running. I know, you do not want to do it, but it must be done.
Probably sooner than later, especially if your system crashes.
I am trying to nurse Netscape 7.0 along as my mail / newsgroup reader. Most
"new" choices are trying to make me use a browser window and appear to not
support newsgroups viewing. Also I cannot get the look and feel of Netscape 7.0
in most of those programs.
Not comfortable moving your data to the new system? Try posting on craigslist
or other similar site for some young know it all. For a small enough fee they
should be able to port your data.
Mike Kenefick in Ohio, USA
Huub van Helvoort
You wrote:
> Winders 98? Really? Henning, I think it is time to upgrade you whole
> system.
Why, if he has no problems with it.
You are using NT yourself which is of the same "age", why did
you not "upgrade".
> The new PC should come with a newest operating system.
And be abused by MS because they have to fill yet another
hole in their OS?
> Yes, you will have to upgrade your genealogy software as well.
Because an MS upgrade is not really an "upgrade" but a downgrade.
> Plus most any other item currently installed running.
And spend more time fixing problems instead of having fun
with your hobby.
> I know, you do not want to do it, but it must be done.
NO, it is not a MUST.
> Probably sooner than later, especially if your system crashes.
If you make regular backups there will not be a problem.
(and I have seen more crashes with new OS than with old ones).
> I am trying to nurse Netscape 7.0 along as my mail / newsgroup reader.
Why? This is already succeeded by much improved Thunderbird.
(Which I am using now reading this newsgroup via its newsreader).
> Most "new" choices are trying to make me use a browser window
> and appear to not support newsgroups viewing.
> Also I cannot get the look and feel of Netscape 7.0
> in most of those programs.
Then you certainly should try Thunderbird, the "classic skin"
makes it appear like Netscape....
Kind regards, Huub.
--
reply to hhelvooort with 2 'o's
================================================================
Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else...
Michael Kenefick
Henning Boettcher
with the old software?
I don't want to learn again. I am too old.
And I can't buy new books. Once a new software is on the market all
books of older software have disappeared from bookshops. I can't buy
a new computer.
Kind regards
Henning Boettcher
Switzerland
Homepage: http://www.saxonyroots.com/boettche/
(universally applicable hints/German language only/ last
review:Mar.2008)
"Michael Kenefick" <kene...@copper.net> schrieb
> Winders 98? Really? Henning, I think it is time to upgrade you
whole system.
... ... ...
"Michael Kenefick" <kene...@copper.net> schrieb ... ... ...
Fat Cat
so I know what it is like to be old. I like XP . I have Vista on my
lap top and would like to get rid of that. How far do you live from
Lucerne? Lorman
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpw78
or at oakb...@sbcglobal.net
-----
Micahel Kenefick
7.2. Thanks for the tip. Mike in Ohio
Hugh Watkins
> I have been trying Thunderbird. It has a good feel, just like Netscape
> 7.2. Thanks for the tip. Mike in Ohio
>
> Michael Kenefick wrote:
>> I will give thunderbird a try.
>>
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