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Joe Pessarra

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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My father had the middle name of "Doris", which he never used, since Doris
is normally a woman's name in the U.S. Is this a man's given name in
Germany? I had thought at one time that it might have been "Dorris", a
German surname that may have been in a family branch, but have been unable
to locate that. Is their a similar German given name spelled slightly
differently? The only written clue was his use of the initial "D." on one
document. His parents were German. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.

Joe Pessarra


Afina Broekman

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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The name was also used as a male middle name in Twente (the eastern part
of the province Overijssel in the Netherlands) At least I have an Evert
Doris ten Bruggencate, born in 1816

Afina

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Dr. Roland Rappmann

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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> My father had the middle name of "Doris", which he never used, since Doris
> is normally a woman's name in the U.S. Is this a man's given name in
> Germany? I had thought at one time that it might have been "Dorris", a
> German surname that may have been in a family branch, but have been unable
> to locate that. Is their a similar German given name spelled slightly
> differently? The only written clue was his use of the initial "D." on one
> document. His parents were German. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.
>
> Joe Pessarra


Doris is in Germany only a woman's name!
In the dialect of the Rheinland (Rhineland) there is a "Dores" as a
short form of Theodor.

Roland Rappmann, Aachen


Ernest Thode

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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"Joe Pessarra" (jpes...@brazosport.cc.tx.us) writes:
> My father had the middle name of "Doris", which he never used, since Doris
> is normally a woman's name in the U.S. Is this a man's given name in
> Germany? I had thought at one time that it might have been "Dorris", a
> German surname that may have been in a family branch, but have been unable
> to locate that. Is their a similar German given name spelled slightly
> differently? The only written clue was his use of the initial "D." on one
> document. His parents were German. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.
>
> Joe Pessarra

Might be Dorus or Dores, short for Theodor(us), which is Theodore.

Ernest THODE


--
Ernest Thode, Washington County Public Library,
Marietta, OH 45750-1973
bs...@freenet.carleton.ca

Lars Roobol

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Dear Jeo,

In dutch, the name "Dorus" can be used (it's short for Theodorus, Derk is
another short form). I suppose the same name has been used close to the
german-dutch border.

Lars Roobol
http://www.oprit.rug.nl/proobol

Jamie...@aol.com

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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In a message dated 10/20/98 7:31:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rapp...@bth.rwth-aachen.de writes:

<< > My father had the middle name of "Doris", which he never used, since
Doris
> is normally a woman's name in the U.S. Is this a man's given name in
> Germany? I had thought at one time that it might have been "Dorris", a
> German surname that may have been in a family branch, but have been unable
> to locate that. Is their a similar German given name spelled slightly
> differently? The only written clue was his use of the initial "D." on
one
> document. His parents were German. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.
>

> Joe Pessarra >>

One of my grandmother's half brothers had Doris as a given name and it is the
only time I had ever heard of it given to a male until your post. They are of
german descent (Pennsylvania Dutch) but that was a long time ago...our
ancestor emmigrated here in 1718...from about 1775 to the present that branch
of the family has been southern. I don't know if any of this helps - just
some anecdotal stuff about another male with Doris as a given name.

good luck -
Jamie


Pete Seaba

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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A second cousin was named for his Uncle Theodore Blaise. Theodore Blaise
used the nickname Dores. Dores sounds like Doris, and when the cousin was
named, the parents spelled the name like it sounded: Doris.

Pete Seaba

Theodore Blaise was from Perl (Saarland)

Joe Pessarra

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Thanks to Pete Seaba, Afina Broekman, Dr. Roland Raapmann, Lars Roobol,
Jacob Moehs, Sabine Zindera and Ernest Thode for their comments. I believe
the secret has been solved. All answers were possibilities, but I believe
those referring to the name Theodore,Theodor(us), Dorus, Dores may be the
best bet. My grandfather, Carl Friedrich Pessarra, came to America with his
brother, Theodor Pessarra. I believe my father was named after his uncle
Theodor. Thanks again.

Joe Pessarra


dcb

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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I wouldn't jump so fast to the conclusion that Doris was not his given
name. A male sailor at Pearl Harbor (who received the Navy Cross for
gallantry in battle) was named Doris Miller. I know nothing of his
ancestry, but pictures show that he was at least partly
African-American.

Josef Gietzen

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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Hello Joe,


"Joe Pessarra" <jpes...@brazosport.cc.tx.us> wrote:
JP>
JP>My father had the middle name of "Doris", which he never used,
JP>since Doris is normally a woman's name in the U.S. Is this a
JP>man's given name in Germany? I had thought at one time that it

Not very often, but sometime it happens that male children get female
given names as second or third given name depending from the godparents.

for example my cousin (male); his given names are JOSEF MARIA. Godparents
has been his uncle JOSEF and his grandmother MARIA.


bye,


Josef Gietzen e-Mail -->--> josef....@infokomm.fido.de --<--<
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Susan Cummins

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Oct 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/27/98
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I've got a male Doris in my extended family. And to top it off ... his
middle name is LaVern. It happens.

Susan


Norman H. West

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:29:21 GMT, dcb...@yahoo.com (dcb) wrote:

>I wouldn't jump so fast to the conclusion that Doris was not his given
>name. A male sailor at Pearl Harbor (who received the Navy Cross for
>gallantry in battle) was named Doris Miller. I know nothing of his
>ancestry, but pictures show that he was at least partly
>African-American.


That is interesting. I have a customer with the first name of Doris
who also happens to be black.

Norm

Helge.Robitzsch

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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Johannes Sempert wrote:
>
> Josef Gietzen <Josef_...@infokomm.fido.de> schrieb

>
> > for example my cousin (male); his given names are JOSEF MARIA.
> > Godparents has been his uncle JOSEF and his grandmother
> > MARIA.
>
> Hm.....ob das wirklich mit seiner Grossmutter zu tun hatte? In
> Deutschland ist es eigentlich nicht ungewoehnlich, wenn streng
> katholische Eltern ihrem Sohn den Mittelnamen Maria geben. Praktisch,
> um ihn Maria, der Mutter Gottes, zu weihen.

Kleine Ergaenzung:
Soweit ich weiss, werden heutzutage in Deutschland
eindeutig weibliche Vornamen fuer Soehne von den
Standesaemtern nicht zugelassen, mit einer einzigen
Ausnahme: Maria ist als zweiter, dritter ... Vorname
zu mindestens einem maennlichen Vornamen (Rufnamen)
erlaubt.

Helge Robitzsch

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