Boyer-Is this a German surname?
DLPolzin
Ronald Boyer wrote:
>
> George Boyer, An ancestor, who shows up in Dale, Wisconsin in the 1850 Census,
> indicates that he was from Germany. I have been informed that this is not true since
> Boyer is not a German name. Can anyone confirm this for me?
I'm not sure who told you that, but I fail to see the logic behind
saying he could not have come from Germany because his name isn't
German. Someone's name doesn't necessarily indicate where they are from
and has very little to do with where they are not from. Someone named
Schmidt could have been born in Tokyo and just because their name isn't
Japanese doesn't mean they are not from Tokyo. If George said he was
from Germany, that's where I would look.
Ronald Boyer
serenah mckay
Ronald, I also have a Boyer from Germany--my great-grandmother Ellen
Boyer, who with her husband, Maximillian Miller, came to the U.S. from
Germany around the turn of the century. They settled in Allentown, PA.
I, too, had wondered about that name. Perhaps the Boyers originated in
another country (France?), and at some point migrated into Germany? Just
a theory......
Serenah
>
>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 03:57:33 GMT
>From: Ronald Boyer <Silve...@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
>Subject: Boyer-Is this a German surname?
Ernest Thode
Ronald Boyer (Silve...@worldnet.att.net) writes:
> George Boyer, An ancestor, who shows up in Dale, Wisconsin in the 1850 Census,
> indicates that he was from Germany. I have been informed that this is not true since
> Boyer is not a German name. Can anyone confirm this for me?
Whatever else BOYER might be, and I don't know what your informant told
you it supposedly is, it is a good Pennsylvania German name. The German
form is probably BEYER or BAYER.
Likewise, MOYER is a good Pennsylvania German name. The German form is
MEYER or MAYER, etc.
There are two BOYERs listed in STRASSBURGER & HINKE's _Pennsylvania German
Pioneers_.
The non-German spelling comes from the common and repeated rendering of
the Pennsylvania Palatine dialect diphthong by the English-speaking clerks
and it proliferated so even the German speakers used the new anglicized
spelling.
Ernest THODE, Washington County Public Library, Marietta, OH 45750-1973
--
Ernest Thode, Washington County Public Library,
Marietta, OH 45750-1973
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Josef Leinders
at a first glance Boyer sounds french to me.
but there are many people with french names in germany for several reasons
(protestants, who left france in the 17th century, marriages in the (quite
long) border areas, etc.)
Ronald Boyer <Silve...@worldnet.att.net> schrieb im Beitrag
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In German BOYER would be written Beuer to get the same pronounciation as
in Your language and that is a good German name and could mean farmer.
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dick
It has been suggested that Boyer might be Beuer. I would be inclined to
suspect that it is Bayer or Beyer. In America many of the spellings were=
shifted to match the English spelling appropriate to the pronunciation in=
the Pennsylvania German dialect. This dialect is related to the southern=
German dialects, taking aspects of Pfalzisch and Schw=E4bisch. One of th=
ose
aspects is that many of the "ei" words are prounced "oy". Thus my ancest=
or
Martin Meyer from W=FCrttemberg ended up as Martin Moyer, because that is=
how
HE pronounced his name.
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Frank Spengemann
Ronald Boyer (Silve...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
> George Boyer, An ancestor, who shows up in Dale, Wisconsin in the 1850 Census,
> indicates that he was from Germany. I have been informed that this is not true since
> Boyer is not a German name. Can anyone confirm this for me?
I knew at least one german with the name Boyer. Maybe the name is of
french origin. But there is also a quarter in the city of Bottrop (N
of Essen, Northrhine-Westphalia) with the name Boye.
Frank
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Richard Koontz
"Josef Leinders" <jole...@msn.com> wrote:
>at a first glance Boyer sounds french to me.
>but there are many people with french names in germany for several reasons
>(protestants, who left france in the 17th century, marriages in the (quite
>long) border areas, etc.)
>Ronald Boyer <Silve...@worldnet.att.net> schrieb im Beitrag
><5apt7d$n...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
>> George Boyer, An ancestor, who shows up in Dale, Wisconsin in the 1850
>Census,
>> indicates that he was from Germany. I have been informed that this is not
>true since
>> Boyer is not a German name. Can anyone confirm this for me?
>>
>>
There are a number of Boyer lines in the 1700's in Pennsylvania and
Virginia. Many of these were originally French Huguenots, who left
France in the what-late 1600's, settled in the Palatinate (among many
other places such as England, Ireland, you name it), and then moved
to the US.
So no, it was not originally a French name, but yes, they were Germans
for all of 50 to 100 years. And keep in mind that many folks from
Ireland were not Irish, but transplanted Germans for a few decades.
And then, of course, you have the folks from Alsace, who aren't really
German, and aren't really French, but are most certainly Alsatians.
Michael Boyer, for instance, settled in the Shenandoah Valley by 1750.
The Boyer line is fairly well researched: several books on the family
in libraries out east.
hagen...@aol.com
That is ok ! For Aleman dialects it is Beyer, Beier, Baier
D. Schneider
In the 1910 Penn census my family of Reuben Maurer was listed as Boyer
Diannne
Frank Spengemann
Frank Spengemann (f...@delta.inf.bi.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) wrote:
> I knew at least one german with the name Boyer. Maybe the name is of
> french origin. But there is also a quarter in the city of Bottrop (N
> of Essen, Northrhine-Westphalia) with the name Boye.
Oops,
The name of the quarter in Bottrop is Boy. Boye is a village close to Celle
(Lower Saxony).
Sorry
BARNEYSYR
If you peruse census records you will quikly learn that migration within
europe must have been considerable in the 1800's. I have seen hudreds of
Irish, Italian, English, etc. sounding names indicating German origin
prior to entering the US.
jjaso...@gmail.com
> >
> > George Boyer, An ancestor, who shows up in Dale, Wisconsin in the 1850 Census,
> > indicates that he was from Germany. I have been informed that this is not true since
> > Boyer is not a German name. Can anyone confirm this for me?
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> Ronald Boyer wrote:
> >
> > George Boyer, An ancestor, who shows up in Dale, Wisconsin in the 1850 Census,
> > indicates that he was from Germany. I have been informed that this is not true since
Chr. Maercker
Germany. Another similar name is Bayer (also written Baier).
CU Chr. Maercker.