Meaning of words

[Fran LaChance]

Hi All,

Can someone help me discover what these phrases mean,
please?

"Ondoyee par Etienne Bergeron" relates to a baptism.
I know the by Etienne Bergeron, but ondoyee translates
a undulating, wavering - does that mean conditional
baptism?

also in notary files when the term "bail" is used to
what is it referring.

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Fran LaChance a écrit dans le message <385D80DB...@ebtech.net>...

>"Ondoyee par Etienne Bergeron" relates to a baptism.
>I know the by Etienne Bergeron, but ondoyee translates
>a undulating, wavering - does that mean conditional
>baptism?
>

Ondoyer in the liturgical sense means "pouring water on a child when
the complete baptism ritual is not done"

>also in notary files when the term "bail" is used to

Usually a renting contract
>
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[Guy Basque]

lach...@ebtech.net (Fran LaChance) wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Can someone help me discover what these phrases mean,
>please?
>

>"Ondoyee par Etienne Bergeron" relates to a baptism.
>I know the by Etienne Bergeron, but ondoyee translates
>a undulating, wavering - does that mean conditional
>baptism?

the word "ondoyer" has two meanings in french:

1) literal: to undulate or to ripple
2) liturgy (after 1250): to baptize (by flowing water...)

>also in notary files when the term "bail" is used to

>what is it referring.

it's referring to a "lease" (home or land).

>thanks a bunch,

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Guy Basque
Pierrefonds, QC

[LEBEGUE]

"Ondoyee" means that the baby was in danger of death at his birth and that
he ou she was basptimed by someone who was not a preatcher.In the dictionary
I found "private baptism" (in emergency).
"bail" is a notary paper that you sign when you rent a house or a shop.Still
in the same dictionary : "lease".
Pleas excuse my english !
PML

Dans l'article <385D80DB...@ebtech.net>, lach...@ebtech.net (Fran
LaChance) a écrit :

>Hi All,
>
>Can someone help me discover what these phrases mean,
>please?
>
>"Ondoyee par Etienne Bergeron" relates to a baptism.
>I know the by Etienne Bergeron, but ondoyee translates
>a undulating, wavering - does that mean conditional
>baptism?
>

>also in notary files when the term "bail" is used to
>what is it referring.
>

[jean-paul.hermann]

There is a difference between "ondoyer" and "baptiser". The name
"ondoyer" refers to an emergency baptism, most often followed by the
death of the child, who sometimes does not even get a name. This was
done at home, most often by the midwife. In cas the child did survive,
he (she) was then baptized at church.

Fran LaChance a écrit:

[Mary Anne]

"Bail" also is the amount of money or goods you put forth as collateral when
you are released from jail, awaiting trial.
This presumably ensures that you will not skip without appearing for
trial...in which case you would forfeit the bail money. That is why it is
usually a large enuf amount so that they are pretty sure you will not.

But, of course, this is not part of a notarized paper.

MAS