phpgedview and webtrees
Roger Donne
They look very much the same. What's the difference? Should I make the
effort to change?
Roger
Harrison Genealogy
knats whisker ! .... seems there is a bug in it so I would stick to
PhpGedView at present.
Have they solved it yet ... anyone ?
Regards
Bill
Roger
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john
See http://www.xs4all.nl/~tamuraj/jones2/Webtrees.xhtml for a an outline
of the differences and the reasons for webtrees branching out of PhpGedView.
One of the more significant is webtrees only supports one database
system, MySQL (now owned by Oracle, who have just significantly
increased the subscription costs). That could be a problem for
individuals running the PhpGedView database on their own server, and
probably using the public domain SQLite database, who might want to switch.
It is not clear from the PhpGedView web site how much active development
there is now some of the main developers have left and moved to webtrees.
Paul Blair
webtrees forked from PGV because of differences of opinion about (1)
where it was hosted (!) and (2) some internal design matters of no
particular interest to many users. The question of US software policy
was simply a red herring, which cropped up at the same time.
MySQL is GNU - no-one owns it. Cost is not a factor. Oracle does some
value-adding, for which you pay if you want to go that way.
webtrees has turned into a software project, as distinct from a genie
project. It is currently not as 'finished' as many would like
(development has been 9 months), but the devs are still keen. The
project will improve provided they can maintain their interest.
At which point, someone will fork from it...
Paul
Bob Melson
Errrr, dunno about that, mate. SourceForge has/had a policy WRT exporting
crypto routines/software that seems to have left many of the then current
group of pGV developers cold. How much of a factor that policy was in the
ultimate spin-off, how much a convenient excuse is yet to be determined.
WRT MySQL, Sun acquired the Swedish (?) tech firm that owned MySql a year
or so before it was acquired by Oracle - which had been lusting for some
proprietary elements of MySql for it's own product. MySql, like many
other products in the public domain, has both a commercial side and a
non-commercial side (good example is Sendmail). Having seen how Larry
Ellison operates, I wouldn't be at all surprised if MySQL doesn't suddenly
morph into a for-profit Oracle-Lite.
Snarky Ol' Bob
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Wes Groleau
Why not try them both? There's no MAJOR difference, but webtrees is
faster. By trying to support five database engines, PhpGedView can't
afford to take full advantage of any of them. At least one of them
doesn't allow stored procedures, which can be a major efficiency gain.
webtrees has a migration wizard that makes it pretty easy to create
a webtrees DB from your PGV DB. Makes it pretty easy to compare.
The bit about GEDCOM size has to be deliberate misinformation.
webtrees is a spinoff from PGV, and thus has NEVER had any size
limitations that PGV didn't also have. And PGV has never in recent
history been unable to handle GEDCOMs megabytes in size.
OK, my wording is a bit opaque, so I'll try again: Both systems
have never had a problem with large GEDCOM files, except for those
few individuals who had screwed up config settings.
User interface for both is similar, not the world's greatest
in my opinion, but not bad.
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Paul Blair
bolted by then... :-)
Wes Groleau
> On 11-12-2010 04:34, Roger Donne wrote:
>> I am using phpgedview on a website but now I read that webtrees is
>> better.
>> They look very much the same. What's the difference? Should I make the
>> effort to change?
>
> Why not try them both?
For that matter, compare them to TNG and Geni.com.
All four can import GEDCOM, so comparing them shouldn't
be difficult. Then stick with the one you like.
--
Wes Groleau
"In the field of language teaching, Method A is the logical
contradiction of Method B: if the assumptions from which
A claims to be derived are correct, then B cannot work,
and vice versa. Yet one colleague is getting excellent
results with A and another is getting comparable results
with B. How is this possible?"
— Earl W. Stevick
Roger Donne
"Wes Groleau" <Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote in message
news:ibld53$lnt$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
Thanks for the comments. As you advise, I'll give webtrees a try. My
reluctance was the amount of time it took to get phpgedview working in the
first place - usually something to do with permissions - and the similar
effort involved with each upissue. TNG and genie were also mentioned, no
doubt having individual merits, but the big advantage from my point of view
is that phpgedview and webtrees both appear to do an excellent job and are
absolutely free!
Roger
Wes Groleau
> effort involved with each upissue. TNG and genie were also mentioned, no
> doubt having individual merits, but the big advantage from my point of view
> is that phpgedview and webtrees both appear to do an excellent job and are
> absolutely free!
I'm biased toward webtrees for its "power," but TNG looks nicer and
is quite featureful (and only $19). Geni.com and Genoom.com have
a really nice look and feel, but what they can do is quite shallow.
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Wes Groleau
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The man who says, "Impossible!" will never succeed.
Paul Blair
genie apps into content management systems - eg WordPress, Joomla,
Drupal. They require some programming assistance (usually nothing very
complex) but they soften the doxology to the database mindsets that
prevail. To see a nice mix of WordPress and TNG, I invite you to visit
http://www.mckerngenealogy.com/
Paul
Wes Groleau
> doubt having individual merits, but the big advantage from my point of view
> is that phpgedview and webtrees both appear to do an excellent job and are
> absolutely free!
TNG is only $19 US one-time, and since you have to dowload and install
the PHP, you can customize it anyway you want, as long as you don't
blame Lithgoe for the results or try to sell what he wrote.
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Roger Donne
I agree that TNG looks very good judging by the demo on the website
http://lythgoes.net/genealogy/software.php
But the current version seems to cost 29.99USD, if I'm looking at the right
thing?
Roger
Paul Blair
Yep. Seriously underpriced, IMHO
Wes Groleau
OK, well, it was $19 when I bought my copy.
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