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Helen Castle

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Mar 8, 2002, 8:45:25 AM3/8/02
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Can someone who knows a bit about ASCII substitution or alternate characters
let me know if they can work out the French at the end of this email. It is
in French and so far I think I have worked out that "=E9" is an e with a
thingo on top,

I have taken the second line and written under it what would make sense if I
could remember the ASCII code for an "e" with a thingo on top. So if I can
work out to replace =E9 with the ASCII character & the =E0 and the =E8 with
the right thing I might have a chance of "web" translating it - I have more
but it is intersperced with (french?) HTML code that my (english) email and
web browsers wont read. I cannot make my Outlook or Outlook Express or
browser read the HTML for some reason - it (the HTML) is really in English
but it does not translate into a browser. Is HTML in English in French web
pages? I have never thought to look.

All I can make out is it is about marriages (naissance) & Kelle's (an
ancestor) & Nancy (a town in france) and Matthew Flinders is also mentioned
in 1802 in another part. I would hate to think I missed out on my
ggggrandfather being in the boat with Matthew Flinders as he sailed around
Australia. (he probably only painted it, or cleaned it)

bonsoir,
je vous renvoie le r=E9sultat de mes recherches sur Nancy concernant la =
Je vous renvoie le resultat de mes recherches sur Nancy concernanat la =

naissance de Charles KELLE. Il y a du avoir un probl=E8me informatique =
car je me souviens avoir d=E9j=E0 effectu=E9 cette recherche en son =
temps. Myst=E8re de l'informatique.
Voil=E0 donc le r=E9sultat.
J'ai trouv=E9 =E0 2 jours d'intervalle la naissance de deux Charles =
KELLE

1- le 07 novembre 1814
d=E9claration de Marguerite PHILIPPE sage femme de la naissance de =
Charles KELLE fils naturel de Fran=E7oise Claire KELLE, 33 ans =
r=E9sidant rue de la Charit=E9 =E0 Nancy native de Nancy et fille de =
Jean Claude et de Catherine ANALLE r=E9sidant tous deux dans la m=EAme =
rue (sic).
t=E9moins : Charles MAROTTE ancien militaire 48 ans et Nicolas LECLERC =
cabaretier 43 ans tous deux de Nancy

2- le 09 novembre 1814
un enfant d=E9pos=E9 =E0 l'hospice des orphelins de Nancy, paraissant =
=E2g=E9 de 4 mois, inscrit sous les noms et pr=E9noms de Charles=20
KELLE.

Esp=E9rant que cette fois ci, ce message ne se perde pas sur la "toile"
Gilbert Mol=E9
coordonnateur 54


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Patrick Texier

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Mar 8, 2002, 9:04:44 AM3/8/02
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Le Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:45:25 +1100, "Helen Castle"
<hca...@ozemail.com.au> a écrit :

> Can someone who knows a bit about ASCII substitution or alternate characters
> let me know if they can work out the French at the end of this email. It is
> in French and so far I think I have worked out that "=E9" is an e with a
> thingo on top,

This email use Quoted-Printable encoding for 8-bit characters.
Best way is using ISO-8859-1 or ISO-8859-15

> je vous renvoie le r=E9sultat de mes recherches sur Nancy concernant la =

résultat


> Je vous renvoie le resultat de mes recherches sur Nancy concernanat la =
>
> naissance de Charles KELLE. Il y a du avoir un probl=E8me informatique =

problème


> car je me souviens avoir d=E9j=E0 effectu=E9 cette recherche en son =

déjà


> Charles KELLE fils naturel de Fran=E7oise Claire KELLE, 33 ans =

Françoise


> =E2g=E9 de 4 mois, inscrit sous les noms et pr=E9noms de Charles=20

âgé =20 => space character

Patrick Texier

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Mar 8, 2002, 9:11:47 AM3/8/02
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[supersedes previous article]

Le Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:45:25 +1100, "Helen Castle"
<hca...@ozemail.com.au> a écrit :

> Can someone who knows a bit about ASCII substitution or alternate characters


> let me know if they can work out the French at the end of this email. It is
> in French and so far I think I have worked out that "=E9" is an e with a
> thingo on top,

This email use Quoted-Printable encoding for 8-bit characters.


Best way is using ISO-8859-1 or ISO-8859-15

> je vous renvoie le r=E9sultat de mes recherches sur Nancy concernant la =
résultat


> Je vous renvoie le resultat de mes recherches sur Nancy concernanat la =
>
> naissance de Charles KELLE. Il y a du avoir un probl=E8me informatique =

problème


> car je me souviens avoir d=E9j=E0 effectu=E9 cette recherche en son =

déjà


> Charles KELLE fils naturel de Fran=E7oise Claire KELLE, 33 ans =

Françoise


> Jean Claude et de Catherine ANALLE r=E9sidant tous deux dans la m=EAme =

même


> =E2g=E9 de 4 mois, inscrit sous les noms et pr=E9noms de Charles=20

Lindsay Graham

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Mar 8, 2002, 10:27:50 AM3/8/02
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Helen, this might help:
=E9 is ASCII Alt+130, that is, é
=E8 is ASCII Alt+138, that is, è
=E0 is ASCII Alt+133, that is, à
=E7 is ASCII Alt+135, that is, ç
=EA is ASCII Alt+136, that is, ê

I hope someone else can translate the passage, as my French is pretty elementary.

--
Lindsay Graham


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Denis Beauregard

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Mar 8, 2002, 9:17:00 AM3/8/02
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THis is in MIME. Your correspondant is using a mail client
in 7bit and MIME while he should use 8bit.

I rewrote sentences with those diacritics to help you to
convert them. To do it yourself, the hint is 1st to be sure
you use the same conversion page. ISO-8859-1 for example.
Then, convert them from hexa value to decimal value.

E0 = (E*16 + 0), E = 14, so E0 = 224.

Then, you disactivate the NUMLOCK on your keyboard,
you press ALT (and keep it down), then
0 2 2 4 on the numeric keypad (the 0 is important with Word
only, I think it is not necessary elsewhere), then release ALT.

On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:45:25 +1100, "Helen Castle"
<hca...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:


Le Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:45:25 +1100, "Helen Castle"

<hca...@ozemail.com.au> écrivait dans soc.genealogy.computing:

>Can someone who knows a bit about ASCII substitution or alternate characters
>let me know if they can work out the French at the end of this email. It is
>in French and so far I think I have worked out that "=E9" is an e with a
>thingo on top,
>
>I have taken the second line and written under it what would make sense if I
>could remember the ASCII code for an "e" with a thingo on top. So if I can
>work out to replace =E9 with the ASCII character & the =E0 and the =E8 with
>the right thing I might have a chance of "web" translating it - I have more
>but it is intersperced with (french?) HTML code that my (english) email and
>web browsers wont read. I cannot make my Outlook or Outlook Express or
>browser read the HTML for some reason - it (the HTML) is really in English
>but it does not translate into a browser. Is HTML in English in French web
>pages? I have never thought to look.
>
>All I can make out is it is about marriages (naissance) & Kelle's (an
>ancestor) & Nancy (a town in france) and Matthew Flinders is also mentioned
>in 1802 in another part. I would hate to think I missed out on my
>ggggrandfather being in the boat with Matthew Flinders as he sailed around
>Australia. (he probably only painted it, or cleaned it)
>
>bonsoir,
>je vous renvoie le r=E9sultat de mes recherches sur Nancy concernant la =

je vous renvoie le résultat de mes recherches sur Nancy concernant la

>Je vous renvoie le resultat de mes recherches sur Nancy concernanat la =
>
>naissance de Charles KELLE. Il y a du avoir un probl=E8me informatique =

naissance de Charles KELLE. Il y a du avoir un problème informatique =

>car je me souviens avoir d=E9j=E0 effectu=E9 cette recherche en son =
>temps. Myst=E8re de l'informatique.
>Voil=E0 donc le r=E9sultat.

Voilà donc le résultat.


>J'ai trouv=E9 =E0 2 jours d'intervalle la naissance de deux Charles =
>KELLE
>
>1- le 07 novembre 1814
>d=E9claration de Marguerite PHILIPPE sage femme de la naissance de =
>Charles KELLE fils naturel de Fran=E7oise Claire KELLE, 33 ans =
>r=E9sidant rue de la Charit=E9 =E0 Nancy native de Nancy et fille de =
>Jean Claude et de Catherine ANALLE r=E9sidant tous deux dans la m=EAme =
>rue (sic).
>t=E9moins : Charles MAROTTE ancien militaire 48 ans et Nicolas LECLERC =
>cabaretier 43 ans tous deux de Nancy
>
>2- le 09 novembre 1814
>un enfant d=E9pos=E9 =E0 l'hospice des orphelins de Nancy, paraissant =
>=E2g=E9 de 4 mois, inscrit sous les noms et pr=E9noms de Charles=20

âgé de 4 mois, inscrit sous les noms et prénoms de Charles

>KELLE.
>
>Esp=E9rant que cette fois ci, ce message ne se perde pas sur la "toile"
>Gilbert Mol=E9
>coordonnateur 54

Denis

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Helen Castle

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Mar 9, 2002, 4:13:53 PM3/9/02
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Sorry for the misunderstanding I was expecting to be able to tell my program
to recode the french characters.

DDDUUUUHHHH!!! (in Homer Simpsonlike tones)

I did a find and replace and now have a beautifully typed French document
that Cheryl - Singhals - has offered to help with.

Geez we're good on this group

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Helen Castle
have a look at my rellie's at:
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~hcastle/

ICQ 3184996

Penrith Dispensary Register
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jmalloy

Miscellaneous Newspaper Transcripts
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hcastle

Happy to share my AVRI's and NSW BDM's
email me for lookups

For the discussion of Australia and New Zealand genealogy. The oldest and
most extensive mailing list for the region.
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/GEN

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Singhals

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Mar 9, 2002, 5:40:33 PM3/9/02
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Before Beauregard hurts himself laughing, (G) I'll happily defer
to any native speaker of French who cares to speak up! (g) OTOH,
I do read it a lot better than I write or speak it. ... not that
*that's* difficult to do.

Cheryl

Wes Groleau

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Mar 11, 2002, 10:36:00 AM3/11/02
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> I do read it a lot better than I write or speak it. ... not that

I once tried to ask directions from someone near Montréal.
For more than a minute we tried to communicate, and I didn't
understand even _one_ word. Finally I did understand
_one_ and only one word: "sord"

She thought I was deaf and tried to give me some money!

:-)

--
Wes Groleau
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau

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