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ozgenfreak

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Jul 20, 2008, 9:57:57 AM7/20/08
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Hi,

Hi,

Looking for a Victoria May Roberts (nee, Martin) who died in Australia
(probably Victoria or NSW) between 1942 & 1987, daughter of Maria Jane
Martin (nee Rope) & William James Martin.

Seems to have vanished, may have remarried before her death but can't
find anything about this in Vic, or NSW so far..

This has been a family mystery for years, hope someone can help!

MargM

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Jul 20, 2008, 5:43:12 PM7/20/08
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"ozgenfreak" <ozgen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hi ???

45 years is a very large time span ............ Why that lot of years
in particular ?? How do you know what her parents names were & she
married some one named ROBERTS ? What records have you checked


Bye

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MargM
Beautiful NSW Central Coast
NSW


robert.j

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Jul 20, 2008, 8:22:38 PM7/20/08
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Hi,

as another writer pointed out - a little more information would be
useful ...

per online NSW indexes: William James MARTIN married Maria J ROPE in
1876, in the Mudgee district. reg.3334/1876.

It appears the couple had a large number of children as suggested by
this list:15485/1876 MARTIN WILLIAM JAMES WILLIAM JAMES MARIA JANE
MUDGEE Buy Now
18865/1880 MARTIN SARAH JANE WILLIAM MARIA JANE MUDGEE
22062/1882 MARTIN BEATRICE P WILLIAM J MARIA J MUDGEE
27735/1887 MARTIN DAISY WILLIAM J MARIA J MUDGEE
16792/1878 MARTIN LILLY E WILLIAM J MARIA J MUDGEE
11006/1890 MARTIN VALENTINE WILLIAM J MARIA J COONAMBLE
12514/1892 MARTIN PANSY WILLIAM J MARIA J DUBBO
12131/1895 MARTIN UNNAMED FEMALE WILLIAM J MARIA J COONAMBLE
12132/1895 MARTIN UNNAMED MALE WILLIAM J MARIA J COONAMBLE
2556/1897 MARTIN VICTORIA M WILLIAM J MARIA J COONAMBLE
20276/1899 MARTIN IRENE A WILLIAM J MARIA J COONAMBLE

The family certainly enjoyed naming the girls: Lilly, Pansy,Daisy .. :)


The list includes the birth of Victoria M Martin in 1897 - so
ozgenfreaks post suggests that Victoria died sometime between the age of
45 and 80 years - a rather wide gap - in the absence of other
information I would normally expect a women to live to about the age of
70-80 years. But looking at the deaths of the sisters- Pansy and Lilly -
Pansy Neylon nee Martin died in 1944 Gilgandra district. and Daisy
Cooper nee Martin died in 1930 Gilgandra district - both women dying at
about the age of 50 years - too early - so if Victoria followed her
sisters - Victoria's death would be likely at about 1950.

Moving on -


the NSW indexes don't indicate any marriage of any Victoria Martin to a
Roberts.

in the NSW indexes there seems to be only one marriage of a Victoria M
Martin - to a Charles henry lloyd JOHNSTONE in 1924 ..
12100/1924 JOHNSTONE CHARLES H L MARTIN VICTORIA M GILGANDRA

A really odd thing though ... the 1936 Gilgandra electoral roll shows
that Charles Henry Lloyd Johnstone is a labourer of lower Miller Street.
yet the entry for Victoria May Johnston (sic??) is care of a Ludwig
SEMMLER ... I wonder if ozgenfreak has heard the names Johnstone or
Semmler in the family stories?? Ofcourse without any good information -
it is all speculation.

and the indexes show that Charles Johnstone died in 1941.


However the indexes do contain the death in the Wentworth district in
1929 of a Noel Roberts - father Arthur W Roberts - mother Victoria M???
could this be the girl??

Who knows - what we need is more information - perhaps the husband's
full name for starters? or maybe even a year of marriage? Or perhaps a
rough date when the couple split up and Victoria disppeared? Isn't there
an aunty or uncle around somewhere that can asssist with this research?


good luck
Robert

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Jon Martin

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Jul 20, 2008, 10:16:25 PM7/20/08
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Hi You will find that a Victoria M ROFFEY married Arthur W ROBERTS at
Wentworth 18668/1928.

Jon.

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