Was C. Selous School known informally as "the Greendale School"
Spy
"Hobo" <myusene...@requiresthis.com> wrote in message
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>
> When Dr. Stephen Hatfill was first accused of being the source of the
> anthrax mailings in the U.S. Barbara Rosenberg of the FAS accused him of
> being the source because the letters came addressed from the "Greendale
> School" and said Hatfill had lived in Greendale, Rhodesia in the 70's and
> that this town contained a school by that name. It is now clear that their
> was no school in Greendale called the Greendale School. Now the U.S. media
> is claiming that in Rhodesia the Courtney Selous School in Greendale was
> "informally" referred to by locals as "the Greendale School". Can any
> ex-locals comment on this?
>
>
Absolute kak!
In 50 years I've never heard it referred to as anything other than "Courtney
Selous", e.g.:
"Ja, I went to Courtney Selous"
"Greengrove thrashed Courtney Selous at soccer as usual!"
and more recently (March 2002):
"I'm just going down to Courtney Selous to be denied my right to vote
against Mugabe!"
Presumably all this "Greendale School" business is still the result of
someone still trying to misdirect the Press Pack and keep them chasing after
Steven Hatfill?
walther
Hobo <myusene...@requiresthis.com> wrote in message
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> When Dr. Stephen Hatfill was first accused of being the source of the
anthrax mailings in the U.S. Barbara Rosenberg of the FAS accused him of
being the source because the letters came addressed from the "Greendale
School" and said Hatfill had lived in Greendale, Rhodesia in the 70's and
that this town contained a school by that name. It is now clear that their
was no school in Greendale called the Greendale School. Now the U.S. media
is claiming that in Rhodesia the Courtney Selous School in Greendale was
"informally" referred to by locals as "the Greendale School". Can any
ex-locals comment on this?
Also, the U.S. media is now playing up the connection between the Courtney
Selous School and the Selous Scouts and are claiming that Hatfill was an
ex-Scout.
SELOUS WAS A PIONEER. BOTH OF THE ABOVE WERE NAMED AFTER HIM AT
SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT TIMES.
It is my understanding that whites in the Scouts had to speak at
least one African language, which I doubt Hatfill can. Can anyone comment
on the likelihood that an American medical student at Rhodes University
would be simultaneously working as a Selous Scout?
AS PROBABLE AS A ZIMBABWEAN SOLDIER, WHO HAS JUST BEEN GIVEN LAND STOLEN BY
MUGABE, BEING A FARMER.
thanks
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Alice
"Hobo" <myusene...@requiresthis.com> wrote in message news:myusenetclient-...@09-027.015.popsite.net...
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>
> When Dr. Stephen Hatfill was first accused of being the source of the
> anthrax mailings in the U.S. Barbara Rosenberg of the FAS accused him of
> being the source because the letters came addressed from the "Greendale
> School" and said Hatfill had lived in Greendale, Rhodesia in the 70's and
> that this town contained a school by that name. It is now clear that their
> was no school in Greendale called the Greendale School. Now the U.S. media
> is claiming that in Rhodesia the Courtney Selous School in Greendale was
> "informally" referred to by locals as "the Greendale School". Can any
> ex-locals comment on this?
The Courtney Selous School was a Junior school, so between the age of 5 and 12. Or in the States they call this an Elementary School.
The school is in Belverder neighbourhood and not in Greendale neighbourhood. Which is at the other side of town. About 10 miles away.
> Also, the U.S. media is now playing up the connection between the Courtney
> Selous School and the Selous Scouts and are claiming that Hatfill was an
> ex-Scout.
This is crazy as the school has nothing to do with the Selous Scouts!
>It is my understanding that whites in the Scouts had to speak at
> least one African language, which I doubt Hatfill can. Can anyone comment
> on the liklihood that an American medical student at Rhodes University
> would be simultaneously working as a Selous Scout?
NO NOT POSSIBLE. Not with an American accent.
Rhodes University is in South Africa, in Graehams Town in the Cape. About 2 thousand miles away from Zimbabwe.
As a nurse, I have met an American medical student, who was a little crazy and he was quite small and not a sporty type. I think it must have been him as I have never heard of other American medical students. He was never in the Scouts as he would never have past the training. He was not a soldier but he claimed that he was a medic in the army! A basic training was at least a year and after that only about 10% would pass the Selous Scout training. They were professional soldiers. It is an insult that a miserable 5 ft 7 overweight American is claiming that he was in the Scouts. If he signed up for the army, it would have been for 3 years, so when did he had the time to finish his study?
Then again, I met an African Zimbabwean woman, who claimed that she studied to be a doctor in the seventies and that she was helping the terrorists (freedom-fighters) at night?? The Europeans believed her but I just asked a few questions, like where did she go at night! To the Zambezi valley and then in the morning she was back at the university! When I pointed out that the Zambezi valley was 400 miles away, she started to scream at me. I just destroyed her little story that she had.
University of Rhodesia, now renamed U.of Zimbabwe. Again the Rhodes University was not in Rhodesia. I wish that the journalists would do their homework. What is the FAS???
>
> thanks
you are welcome
scorpion
"walther" <walt...@freemail.absa.co.za> wrote in message
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> Hobo <myusene...@requiresthis.com> wrote in message
> news:myusenetclient-...@09-027.015.popsite.net...
> >
> > When Dr. Stephen Hatfill was first accused of being the source of
the
> anthrax mailings in the U.S. Barbara Rosenberg of the FAS accused
him of
> being the source because the letters came addressed from the
"Greendale
> School" and said Hatfill had lived in Greendale, Rhodesia in the
70's and
> that this town contained a school by that name. It is now clear that
their
> was no school in Greendale called the Greendale School. Now the U.S.
media
> is claiming that in Rhodesia the Courtney Selous School in Greendale
was
> "informally" referred to by locals as "the Greendale School". Can
any
> ex-locals comment on this?
> YES - THIS IS TRUE
Agreed - my kids went to this school, and we always referred to it as
Greendale School.
> Also, the U.S. media is now playing up the connection between the
Courtney
> Selous School and the Selous Scouts and are claiming that Hatfill
was an ex-Scout.
> SELOUS WAS A PIONEER. BOTH OF THE ABOVE WERE NAMED AFTER HIM AT
> SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT TIMES.
Agreed again
> It is my understanding that whites in the Scouts had to speak at
> least one African language, which I doubt Hatfill can. Can anyone
comment
> on the likelihood that an American medical student at Rhodes
University
> would be simultaneously working as a Selous Scout?
> AS PROBABLE AS A ZIMBABWEAN SOLDIER, WHO HAS JUST BEEN GIVEN LAND
STOLEN
> BY MUGABE, BEING A FARMER.
True. Sticks of Scouts were mainly African, who of course spoke the
local languages. Whites, with faces blackened, and who could not
converse in the required language, normally stayed in the back ground
if locals had to be interviewed.
walther
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It is now clear that their was no school in Greendale called the Greendale
School.
> Now the U.S. media
> is claiming that in Rhodesia the Courtney Selous School in Greendale was
> "informally" referred to by locals as "the Greendale School". Can any
> ex-locals comment on this?
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Alice wrote:-
The Courtney Selous School was a Junior school, so between the age of 5 and
12. Or in the States they call this an Elementary School.
The school is in Belverder neighbourhood and not in Greendale neighbourhood.
Which is at the other side of town. About 10 miles away.
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INFORMATION / CORRECTION BELOW:-
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The elementary schools in the BELVEDERE suburb are Bishopslea, Selbourne
Routledge, and Belvedere.
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In response to a similar query, the following message was posted in this NG
on June 28:-
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Maurice <maurice...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Could someone provide the address of the Greendale Elementary School
> in Harare? Thanks. Alternatively, the Greendale School.
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Most schools in Zimbabwe have recently been renamed with indigenous "hero"
names.
The primary school in the Greendale area is/was "Courtney Selous School" at
PO Box GD35 Greendale Harare.
The school is surrounded by four roads named Coronation Avenue, Queen
Elizabeth Road, Royal Crescent and Kennedy Drive (actual street postal
address not known).
By telephone try country and area code 09263-4 (the last digit "4" is for
Harare). The telephone number is/was - Headmaster 492-784: Bursar 492-534.
There is another school in the nearby area called "Greengrove School"
(492-488).
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Alice
"walther" <walt...@freemail.absa.co.za> wrote in message news:3d5b6bd9$0> >
> <snipped in places>
>
> It is now clear that their was no school in Greendale called the Greendale
> School.
> > Now the U.S. media
> > is claiming that in Rhodesia the Courtney Selous School in Greendale was
> > "informally" referred to by locals as "the Greendale School". Can any
> > ex-locals comment on this?
> ______________________
> Alice wrote:-
> The Courtney Selous School was a Junior school, so between the age of 5 and
> 12. Or in the States they call this an Elementary School.
> The school is in Belverder neighbourhood and not in Greendale neighbourhood.
> Which is at the other side of town. About 10 miles away.
> ______________________________________
>
> INFORMATION / CORRECTION BELOW:-
> ______________________________________
>
> The elementary schools in the BELVEDERE suburb are Bishopslea, Selbourne
> Routledge, and Belvedere.
Thanks for the spelling correction of Belvedere, Walter. And the names of the junior schools.
I have the books about all the secondary schools but not of the elementary schools.
Maurice
Could you email so I can firm up the details? My buddy is writing an
article about the Greendale name in connection with Selous and justs
wants to be authoritative. thx!
scorpion
Maurice, I quote below details of Greendal School, as was earlier
posted. Reproduced, with permission, I trust(?) from an earlier
posting by Walther:
"The primary school in the Greendale area is/was "Courtney Selous
School" at
PO Box GD35 Greendale Harare.
The school is surrounded by four roads named Coronation Avenue, Queen
Elizabeth Road, Royal Crescent and Kennedy Drive (actual street postal
address not known).
By telephone try country and area code 09263-4 (the last digit "4" is
for
Harare). The telephone number is/was - Headmaster 492-784: Bursar
492-534.
There is another school in the nearby area called "Greengrove School"
(492-488)."
Unfortunately I am about to go overseas for a while, so I suggest your
buddy contacts the school as per numbers above (as Walther says -
providing they are still valid), so I can't go into futher details
right now. (Running late already!!)
I will get someone to save any further discussions that may appear on
this NG, so I can look at them after my return.
Go well.
Scorpion
Spy
> Spy, can you help me authenticate the
> story? The phone number for the Courtney Selous rings busy when we've
> tried it from here. Thanks.
>
Took a while but I finally got a reply from a contact who lives within 200
yards of the gates of Courtney Selous School in Greendale, Harare. Their
response, quote:-
"Sorry. Never heard of it referred to as Greendale School".
Spy
> So, Spy, did Hatfill have a classmate at medical school who now is in
> South Africa who used the screen name recently "Scorpion"? If so,
> Mr. Clawson would like to interview him.
>
Pass! Not in a position to answer that one.