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Jure Marn

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May 16, 1991, 12:21:16 PM5/16/91
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Dear fellow netlanders,

I was confused while trying to understand whether the letter
from Chancellors of Croatian Universities was authentic or
not and requested an explanation. This is a mail I received
this morning from Zagreb.

I am neither endorsing nor rebuking the content of the letter,
I simply serve as a courier, in order to clarify the point
raised.

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SVEUCILISNI RACUNSKI CENTAR ZAGREB
RACUNALNE MREZE

SVEUCILISTE U ZAGREBU
UNIVERSITY OF ZAGREB


FAX No: 38-041/420-388
TEL No: 38-041/272-411

41000 ZAGREB
TRG MARSALA TITA 14
ZAGREB,3rd May,1991.


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TO ALL OUR COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS !

Compelled by the dramatic course of events in Croatia,we, the
chancellors of the universities of Croatia, wish to address to
our academic colleagues and friendsand the entire world community
the following declaration and appeal for solidarity:


CROATIA IN DEFENSE OF FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY


We, the academic citizens,professors, and students of the universities
of Croatia, the centers of learning among our people, despite the desire
to remain above everyday politics, cannot continue to be silent and
passive at this dramatic moment in the history of our nation.

The basis and foundation of the existence and the work of universities
are physical and spiritual freedom and democracy, tolerance, and respect
for human rights.Therefore, as these fundamental values are now threatened,
we, the chancellors of all four universities of Croatia feel it is our duty
to direct the public's attention, both in Croatia and abroad,to the foll-
wing:

-the jeopardizing of the political and economic sovereignity of the
Croation nation through the destruction of roads and other property,
obstruction of transportation, planting of bombs and mines, inciting chaos,
and resistance to the lawful government of the Republic of Croatia;

-the organized terror, killing, injuring, and abuse of innocent people,
predominantly Croations in their Croation homeland, as well as other
citizens, including the elderly, women, and children, being commited by
armed groups of Serbian civilians, controlled by, and for most part,
brought in from Serbia;

-the ambivalent role of elements of the Yugoslav Army in this conspiracy
against Croatia, which, under the influence of individuals in the military
command, operates as an occupational force in the Republic of Croatia,
often protecting the terrorists instead of assisting the lawful police
forces;

-the fact that this is not a question of an ethnic clash between a majority
nation in its own homeland and a minority nation, but rather a treacherous,
belated attempt on the part of the dogmatic Communists at the head of the
Yugoslav Army, and of Serbian expansionist politics to provoke such a clash
and to use it in attempt to restore Serbian hegemony.

We direct the attention of our colleagues and the world community to the
factthat the situation is so critical that any moment may bring the
expansion of open aggression against Croatia, which has already begun, with
consequences that will not be confined to Croatia of remain concealed in
Yugoslavia.

Such a point has not been reached thanks only to the extremely conciliatory
politics of the Croatian leadership and the unlimited patience and
understanding om the part of the Croatiaon people in the threatened regions.
However, such peace-loving and tolerant politics can succeed and lead to a
peaceful solution to this Yugoslav and European crisis only if the world
community recognizes the real truth and comprehends what is transpiring in
Croatia and to what end, and only if it undertakes everything within the
range of political and civilized norms in order that the worst be avoided.
For in this brutal aggression in the heart of Europe,'not only would the
tiny, but brave Croatian nation suffer in its struggle for freedom,
democracy and the most basic human rights', but also - along with the moral
disgrace to the entire democratic Western world - it would lead to the
suffering of millions of citizens,'to the migration of hudreds of thousands
of refugees, and to an economic and demographic catastrophe in Central
Europe', with further profound effects on peace in Europe and in the world.

Moreover, we wish, in the name of more than 5000 professors and 60000
students of the universities of Croatia, to inform our friends all over the
world of the suffering of the terrorized populace all over Croatia, and 'to
offer message of encouragement to those remarkable people', who bravely and
patienty suffer the wrath of criminal bands. We are certain that, in the
end, truth and justice will prevail and that Croatia will soon be free,
democratic, and sovereign, for which noble and they will have suffered.

Therefore, we anticipate that all free people, in Croatia and abroad, and
particularly our friends and colleagues in academic circles,'will raise
their voicesfor Croatia',above all in order that the Croatian nation's
'right to freedom and sovereignty be recognized' for:

BY DEFENDING CROATIA, WE ARE DEFENDING FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY AND PROSPERITY
IN ALL EUROPE AND THE WORLD.

Professor Dr. Marijan Sunjic
Chancellor of the University of Zagreb

Professor Dr. Aleksandar Solc
Chancellor of the University of Osijek

Professor Dr. Elso Kuljanic
Chancellor of the University of Rijeka

Professor Dr. Josip Lovric
Chancellor of the University of Split


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Postovani gospodine Marn !

Imao sam prilike vidjeti raspravu koja se vodila na konferenciji
soc-culture-yugoslavia. Zato Vam saljem jos jednom kompletno pismo
Hrvatskih rektora. Tu su i telefonski broj i broj telefaxa
Sveucilista u Zagrebu na koji se mogu dobiti informacije vezane uz
pismo Hrvatskih rektora. Na zalost, previdjeli smo,prilikom prepisi-
vanja pisma u racunalo ,ZAGLAVLJE . Ovo je sada kompletno pismo,a na
njemu nedostaje samo zig Sveucilista u Zagrebu.
Razlog sto je pismo odaslano sa IJS-a vec sam razjasnio.
No, jos jednom ponavljam argumnetirano:
- cvor preko kojeg se salje mail sa naseg uVaxa u BITNET
tih dana bio je stalno srusen - cvor se nalazi u
Beogradu i od njih smo dobili informaciju o update-u
software-a.
Tako mi je preostalo da pismo proslijedim samo preko testnog username-a
koji se nalazi na IJS-u. Tek od jucer i na nasem sistemu instaliran je
X.400 sofware EAN koji sada koristim.
Od uprave SRCA (koja je dobila nalog od Sveucilista) dobio
sam nalog da pismo distribuiram u mrezu.Za to takodjer postoji
dokumentacija. Ukoliko postoje zainteresirani ,to se moze dobiti
pomocu telefaxa. Nas broj u SRCU je: +38-041/518-203.
Svi originalni dokumenti mogu Vama (ili zainteresiranima npr.
gospodin Bogdan ...) biti poslani ukoliko to zatrazite na bilo
koji nacin (fax,pismeno...).
Nadam se da sam bio dovoljno jasan, a Vas molim da ovo
pismo (mozda na Engleskom i skraceno ) proslijedite na listu
soc.culture.yu kako bi se izbjegla bilo kakva sumnja u vjerodostojnost
pisma Hrvatskih rektora.

Ja sam samo izvrsio nalog koji sam dobio od svojih
pretpostavljenih, a oni mogu potvrditi autenticnost
dokumenta.

Srdacan pozdrav
Ivan Maric i
Velimir Vujnovic
sistem programeri SRCA, racunalo uVAX

--
Jure Marn
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Thank you for flowers, flames and fun ! ... ima dober razgled

Bogdan R Kosanovic

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May 16, 1991, 2:23:31 PM5/16/91
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I would like to thank to Jure and friends from SRCE on justifications
addressing previously posted letter from Chancellors of Croatian
Universities.

Now when we are all convinced in authenticity, I can just say how I
feel sorry that Universities are playing political games which could
end in Civil War.

Regards,
Bogdan

P.S. I believe in what people from SRCE were saying and I will not
ask for further justifications. Next time I would just like to
aks them to keep all headers, and in case of posting transcripts
to provide us with phones and/or addresses where we can get further
information like they did now. Once again thank you.

Hendrik te Winkel

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May 17, 1991, 4:17:18 AM5/17/91
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ma...@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (Jure Marn) writes:

>Dear fellow netlanders,

>I was confused while trying to understand whether the letter
>from Chancellors of Croatian Universities was authentic or
>not and requested an explanation. This is a mail I received
>this morning from Zagreb.

>I am neither endorsing nor rebuking the content of the letter,
>I simply serve as a courier, in order to clarify the point
>raised.

Letter deleted, probably read by everyone.

Here is an opinion from an employee of another university (in Amsterdam):

If this letter is authentic I am really shocked at how people tend to think
in times of crises.
This letter is written in a style you seldom see used by professors of any
university, and is in my personal view just the thing intellectual people
in a crises-ripped country should _not_ do!
It is putting more and more oil in the already burnig fire of twisted minds and
opinions.
Why do sensible people act like this?

Mind you, I don't say if the things written are true or not, I do not know
for sure. I just think that the people of Yugoslavia should be sensible,
in order to solve their problems in a 'dignified' way. Reactions like stated
in the letter don't help at all I think.

Or is the letter a fake Jure?

I hope 1991 will soon be over, maybe they have a better year in stock.

Greetings, Hendrik
--
Hendrik te Winkel <hen...@cca.vu.nl>
--- Je eet vegetarisch, principieel doe je dat,
word je aangereden op een zebrapad.
- Het Klein Orkest.

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