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Barry S. Marjanovich

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Jul 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/20/97

Open Letter To Western Politicians, Academics And The Media
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From: Joseph Glasnovich
8610 Jasper Ave. #401
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada, T5H 3S5

No study would be complete without mention of the barbaric methods of the
partisan hordes. Standard practices included crucifixion, impalement,
drawing and quartering, and flaying or roasting victims alive. Lopping off
of noses, ears and sexual organs and the gouging out of eyes of living
victims was common behaviours. In his book "In Tito's Death Marches and
Extermination Camps" (New York, 1962) eyewitness Joseph Hecimovic writes:
"Horrifying events took place in the Osijek camp. The camp was one of the
largest, whence the partisans shipped men in all directions mostly for
slaughter. While describing this camp, I have to describe the sufferings
of six Croatian officers whom I shall never forget: three First Lieutenants
Rajkovic, Bulic, Mordjin, all three of the Sarajevo Railroad Battalion and
the three Domobran Second Lieutenants Kirpan, Nina and Cuturica. They were
crucified on six utility poles. Their hands were nailed over their heads.
Their bodies were tied with barbed wire. After this the partisans took
five long pieces of barbed wire and made a large ball. With it they beat
the crucified officers at will, throughout the day... The bodies hung
there for six days."

Here is a glimpse of partisan behaviour as provided by one of their
allies, a British officer: "I spoke to the two sentries from 43 (Royal
Marine) Commando. They both looked a bit green about the gills. I asked
the Corporal why. "You see that mound over there, sir?" He pointed to
a long trench on the side of the hill which seemed to have been recently
dug and filled in. "The partisans came up here about an hour ago and
buried twenty five or so Germans."

"Were they all dead?"

"Yes sir- but it wasn't that - none of them had eyes or hands." (Donald
Hamilton Hill, SOE Assignment. London, 1973) Partisans and Chetniks often
shot victims like horses and forced them to crawl 'till exhausted before
butchering them. The father of present-day Croat General Mate Daizda was
dispatched in this fashion on a Sarajevo bridge in April 1945.

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<HTML> <HEAD><TITLE>
SAVA: AN OPEN LETTER to Mr. Miomir Zuzul, Ambassador
of Republic of Croatia

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<h3>Letters</h3>
<hr>
<pre>
Serbian American
Voters Alliance
One, Fifth Avenue,
Pittsburgh, PA 15222

Founded in 1987

</pre>
<h4>
July 29, 1996
</h4>

<h1 align=center>
AN OPEN LETTER
</h1><h4>
Reprinted in The American Srbobran and Sloboda
</h4>

<h3 align=left>
Mr. Miomir Zuzul, Ambassador 
Republic of Croatia 
Washington, DC
</h3>

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<tt>
Dear Ambassador,

In your July 27th letter opposing Samantha Power's article
in the OpEd section of the New York Times, you display an
intellectual dishonesty. Since 1991, your country has
succeeded in "cleansing" more tan 600,000 Serbs from your
nation -- fulfilling your Nazi dream of an ethnically pure,
Roman Catholic, "Greater Croatia." Bragging that you have
allowed "7,000 Serbs to return" is an abhorrent kind of
pride when reports that elderly Serbs who stayed in Croatia
after OPERATION STORM, are being found nearly every week
with their throats slashed and their property burned.
Killing defenseless people in their 80s and 90s reveals a
demented proclivity -- not a nation of people capable of
concepts as complex as democracy.

Serbs did not "occupy" Croatia as you state, these were
citizens of your country whom you have disqualified under
your new constitution and have labeled them as a "minority."
You have even passed laws that will not recognize a minority
religion unless there are "30,000 members," setting a new
example of human and religious rights that resembles a
Banana Republic.

These Serbs were invited to this land by the Austrian
government in the 15th century and they were granted
property rights long before there was ever a Croatian
municipality under Austro-Hungarian rule in the 19th
century! Your recollection of Croats being "cleansed" by
Serbs is given in great detail, however, you seem to have
amnesia about the thousands of Serbs killed by Croatian goon
squads. Saying that Serbs "displaced" themselves is indeed
arrogant. Your Croatian forces dropped thousands of shells
on an unarmed civilian population of Knin, killing hundreds
-- a war crime which goes unpunished. Croatian forces
violated the "no-fly" zone with impunity and bombed and
strafed the caravans of fleeing Serbs killing dozens. Serbs
were dragged from their cars and beaten to death. Was this a
display of Croatia's legal system at work? Serbs have a
vivid memory of your 1941 "mobile courtrooms" in which tens
of thousands of Serbs were found guilty and executed on the
spot.

Croatia accomplished OPERATION STORM in August, 1995, not by
our own military prowess and expertise, but with the aid of
German who violated the arms embargo by supplying Croatia
with weapons and tanks and with the aid of retired American
Generals, Vuono, Kroesen and Adm. Hardisty from MPRI, of
Alexandria, Virginia. Croats are incapable of fighting their
own battles, as is evident throughout history. The only
victory Croatia can claim is the killing of 700,000
defenseless Serbs in 1941 -- accomplished with the aid of
priests of your Roman Catholic church who commanded those
bands of thugs in the first Independent State of Croatia.

Even more repugnant was your omission that Croatian troops
exterminated more than 15,000 unarmed Serbian civilians in
OPERATION STORM or that Croatia liquidated 4,000 unarmed
Serbian civilians in Pakrac in May of 1995. This kind of
behavior reeks of Croatia's Nazi past. You prohibited human
rights organizations or U.N. observers to enter the Krajina
for a week until your troops could dispose of the thousands
of Serbian corpses. On May 7th, 1995, Robert Fax, of the
Daily Telegraph wrote: "While there were no bodies in Nova
Varos, the whiff of decay was unmistakable despite hasty
attempts to expunge it with disinfectant."

On October 29, 1991, Croatian radio gave the Serbs "48 hours
to leave their homes with only their barest of necessities."
Croats deceptively called it a "depopulation plan." On
November 1, 991, HVO troops "cleansed" 180 Serbian villages
in eastern Slavonia, "cleansing" 58,000 Serbs in two days
and killing 410 Serbs, Serbs selected from previously posted
"enemies lists" of 6,500 names. In this offensive "a dozen
Serbian Orthodox churches were razed along with 10,000
Serbian homes," as reported by Croatian Helsinki Committee
board member, Ivan Zvonimir Cicak in the London Times in
April, 1993.

"The Croatian authorities have blown up or razed 10,000
houses, mostly of Serbs. About 280,000 Serbs have fled
Croatia as a result of the dynamite campaign and other
measures. (Helsinki Watch, New York Times, December 8,
1994). Was this how you encouraged Serbs to stay in Croatia,
Ambassador? Considering the previously mentioned 1991, 1993
and 1994 violence against Serbs, Croatia's campaign of
terror was culminated by OPERATION STORM. Calling Serbs'
forced evictions, "self cleansing," makes you an arrogant
liar, Ambassador! Your only reward should be an indictment
for crimes against humanity.

Calling Croatia a "democratic" state is a mockery of
everything this word represents. Or is the world witness to
the Croatian version of the inquisition. Your media is
controlled, your journalists are arrested or gagged and your
treatment of the minority Serbs in demonic. Croatia has even
stooped to forcing Serbian children to convert to
Catholicism before allowing them to attend school -- a
process of forced conversion reminiscent of World War II.
Abraham Lincoln renowned for is caustic wit once said: "If
you call a dog's tail a leg, how many legs would a dog
have?" His colleague replied that it would then have 5 legs.
"No," Lincoln responded, Calling a dog's tail a leg doesn't
make it a leg." Nor does calling Croatia a democracy make it
so! You have to work at guaranteeing that every citizen
receives equal rights in a democracy your nation has already
proven incapable of such a concept. Croatia is even changing
its language so that you no longer use words shared with the
Serbs for a thousand years. That, Mr. Ambassador, is racism!
You haven't learned a thing since 1941, have you?

Claiming that you are "fully cooperating with the Dayton
Accords" when this past week Croatians burned Muslim
Mosques, is indeed political double-speak. It appears that
Croats are destroying mosques now because your government
has destroyed 96 Serbian Orthodox churches and you are
running out of religious shrines that continue to offend
your citizens. Claiming that you are cooperating with the
Tribunal while you refuse to turn over Dario Kordic, one of
the most notorious criminals in this war, makes you look
like a buffoon.

"The lessons we have learned from the emergence of the
Independent State of Croatia, where the religious and
political totalitarianism of Catholicism was not only made
to work, but put to death more than 1.5 million Serbian
Orthodox Christians, should never be forgotten. For it
happened in our time, when the Catholic Church -- then, as
now, posing as a victim of religious intolerance -- was
clamoring for freedom, while at the same time suppressing
that same freedom or which she was vociferating so loudly,
in a tiny state where she had set up her kind of freedom,
Catholic freedom, i.e., freedom for herself to eliminate
whatever and whomever dared to resist her embrace." These
were powerful words written by Avro Manhattan in 1965.

Your letter to the New York Times indicates that Croatia has
not deviated form its demonic arrogance, its despicable lack
of Christian principles and the insane depth to which it
continues to stoop to insure the existence of an ethnically
pure Roman Catholic state. May you rot in hell, Ambassador
for being a party to this hideous masquerade that you call a
democracy!

<pre>

William Dorich, President
Serbian American Voters Alliance
Placed on the New York Times Forums -- Bosnia: Uncertain
Paths To Peace
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Eugene Soukharnikov wrote:

> Dear Barry S. Marjanovich;

>
> >In his book "In Tito's Death Marches and
> >Extermination Camps" (New York, 1962) eyewitness Joseph Hecimovic
> writes:
>

> As far as I know Tito wasn't an ethnic Serb (well Lenin and Stalin
> weren't Russians either, not that I am making any analogy and not that
>
> any anology would be appropriate or applicable).
>
> I understand *why* you keep posting these things all over the place (I
>
> don't subscribe to any newsgroup that deals with issues of Yugoslavia
> or other Slavic countries forcibly incorporated in that evil state).
> But do you have any explanation why are the Serbs so savage? Apparent
> willingness of a regular person on the street to participate in most
> barbarous, mind boggling acts of savagery is beyond me. Any theories
> why such a high percentage of these folks are so severely disturbed?
> Is it the recent history of Turkish rule and barbarism, is some border
>
> nation mentality, where does it all come from?
>
> Thanks
>
> Eugene Soukharnikov
> es...@ici.net
> >

From where ?
http://www.Suc.Org./~kosta/tar/ndh

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JASENOVAC, full quote:

<pre>
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF THE HOLOCAUST, Vol. 2, page 739, entry: "Jasenovac"

Jasenovac, the largest concentration and extermination camp in
Croatia. Jasenovac was in fact a complex of several subcamps, in close
proximity to each other, on bank of the Sava River, about 63 miles
(100km) south of Zagreb. The women's camp of Stara Gradiska, which
was farther away, also belonged to the complex.

Jasenovac was established in August 1941 and was dismantled only
in April 1945. The creation of the camp and its management and
supervision were entrusted to Department II of the Croatian Security
Police (Ustaska Narodna Sluzba, UNS), headed by Vjekoslav (Maks)
Luburic, who was personally responsible for everything that happened
there. Scores of Ustase (Croatian fascists) served in the camp. The
cruelest was former priest Miroslav Filipovic-Majstorovic, who killed
scores of prisoners with his own hands.

SOME SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE WERE MURDERED AT JASENOVAC, mostly
Serbs, Jews, Gypsies, and opponents of the ustasa regime. The number
of Jewish victims was between twenty and twenty-five thousand, most of
whom were murdered there up to August 1942, when deportation of the
Croatian Jews to Auschwitz for extermination began. Jews were sent to
Jasenovac from all parts of Croatia - from Zagreb, from Sarajevo, and
from other cities and smaller towns. On their arrival most were killed
at execution sites near the camp: Granik, Gradina, and other places.
Those kept alive were mostly skilled at needed professions and trades
(doctors, pharmacists, electricians, shoemakers, goldsmiths, and so on)
and were employed in services and workshops at Jasenovac. The living
conditions in the camp were extremely severe: a meager diet, deplorable
accommodations, A PARTICULARLY CRUEL REGIME, AND UNBELIEVABLY CRUEL
BEHAVIOR BY THE USTASHE GUARDS. The conditions improved only for short
periods - during visits by delegations, such as the press delegation
that visited in February 1942 and Red Cross delegation in June 1944.

The acts of murder and of the cruelty in the camp reached their peak
in the late summer of 1942, when tens of thousands of Serbian villagers
were deported to Jasenovac from the area of the fighting against the
partisans in the Kozara Mountains. Most of the men were killed in
Jasenovac. The women were sent for forced labor in Germany, and the
children were taken from their mothers, some were murdered and others
were dispersed in orphanages throughout the country.

In April 1945 the partisan army approached the camp. In an attempt
to erase traces of the atrocities, the Ustashe blew up all the
installations and killed most of the inmates. An escape attempt by
the prisoners failed, and only a few survived.

[End quote]

The entry is accompanied by a map of The Independent State of Croatia
(which included then future Tito's Socialist Republics of Croatia and
Bosnia and Herzegovina.It also included portion of Serbia. The monstrous
state stretched all the way to the gates of Belgrade).

Also, the entry is accompanied with a picture of "Father Devil".
Under a smily face in Ustase uniform the caption says:

[Quote]
The former priest Miroslav Filipovic-Majstorovic, a member of
Jasenovac camp staff, in his Ustasa uniform.
[End quote]

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Encyclopaedia Britannica, 15th Ed. (1991) Macropaedia, Vol. 29, p. 1111:

<pre>

"In Croatia [in 1941] the indeginous fascist regime set about a policy of
'racial purification' that went beyond even Nazi practices. Minority
groups such as Jews and Gypsies were to be eliminated as were the Serbs:
it was declared that one-third of the Serbian population would be
deported, one-third converted to Roman Catholicism, and one third
liquidated. [...] Ustasha bands terrorized the countryside. The partial
 [sic!] collaboration of the Catholic clergy in these
practices continues to be a component of Serb-Croat suspicion."

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