I live in Taiwan right now and have a
Taiwan-Chinese gf. She is very sweet
and loving to me. I'll probably end up
marrying this one. I dated two others
in Taiwan and each was different kind of
girl with a different past. All 3 have
been outside of Taiwan and have seen a
larger picture than their local homogeneous
island. I found if they have not been
outside of Taiwan for a length of time,
then it is too hard to overcome the prejudice.
I stayed in Vietnam (HCM City) for two
months during one summer. I dated two
girls and one is still a mail friend now.
They are also different from each other
and are individual like. BTW, if you are
not Vietnamese, you will take some abuse
and she will take more from angry seperatists.
We could not hold hands without angry
shouts and I suppose it worked, because
I can't live like that.
That happens in TW too, but not as much.
I had many friends from SE Asia countries
when I was in college. All of the girls
different from each other.. If you are
looking for a wife (you have one now
and she kicks ur butt) then you should use
common sense criteria to filter her out.
You have to read between the lines, but
there is a saying, "you look for a wife
in the market, not the nightclub" duh.
I am multi-ethnic and the biggest problem
I've had with dating identifiably ethnic
girls is, my friend's friends would talk
with prejudice and someone will always
try to break it up by putting racial
pressure on the girl. It usually works
whether she is "Americanized" or not.
People don't want that kind of abuse in
their lives. It's not comfortable.
People everywhere are individuals..
when u get them alone.
In article <6tv28e$8kh$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, ben...@my-dejanews.com says...
>
>I would like to know if Vietnamese girls are nicer
>than Taiwanese girls. I recently married a girl from
>Taiwan and I was wondering if I made the right choice.
>She treats me nice, but she also has a bad temper
>and beats me sometimes. Before we were married,
>I flirted with a few Vietnamese girls and had
>a good experience with them. I would like to know
>if I made a mistake. Do Vietnamese girls make
>better wives?
>
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I thought the convention I heard form Asians is Taiwane$e girls are the
most shamelessly materialistic to the point of being obnoxious. I mean
even I know that :-)
When it comes to vulgar materialism, Taiwanese women certainly rank right
up there. :-)
But I always thought that HKers got us beat by miles.
In article <6tv28e$8kh$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, ben...@my-dejanews.com says...
To^i nghi~ ngu+o+`i Vie^.t kho^ng ne^n bi`nh lua^.n the^m gi` nu+~a ve^`
dde^` ta`i na`y.
Te^n Dda`i Loan na`y chi? la` mo^.t te^n vo^ ho.c. Ha~y la`m ngo+. Nhu+~ng
bi`nh lua^.n ha. ca^'p va` man ro+. na`y kho^ng dda'ng dde^? ngu+o+`i Vie^.t
chu'ng ta dde^? ma('t. Ddo' la` ca'i va(n minh ma` ho. tu+. xu+ng la` " va(n
ho'a Thie^n Trie^`u ", la` da^n to^.c " con Tro+`i " dda^'y.
TC
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: Are Vietnamese girls nicer than Taiwanese girls?
>From: tf...@utdallas.edu (Tiang Foo)
>Date: Fri, Sep 25, 1998 21:06 EDT
>Message-id: <6uhelt$ck3$1...@news.seed.net.tw>
Tiang Foo wrote:
> Vietnamese women are selfish, lying whores.
> Taiwan women are warm, loving, wonderful ladies.
> You are lucky to marry Taiwan girl. Do'nt regret!
>
Vietnamese Girl doesn't make a better wife for you because you're so damn
stuppid and not ready to be a man; therefore, she " dumped " you .You hated
Vietnamese Girl who dumped you and you posted this message for retaliation !!!
Go home . Mend your heart and ... get a life , pal .
TTU
You guys confuse me sometimes. I've been lurking here for quite some time,
and the general attitude here seems to be that you hate Asian women (or at
least hate the idea of it) who date/marry/have intimate relations with a
non-Asian man (dunno what you think about Asian lesbians and non-Asian
lesbians). Yet you seem to think it's okay to categorize a particular race
of Asian women as "lying whores". Maybe you should take a look in the
mirror and judge yourself before you try to judge others. You can't base
your opinion of a certain race of women on a few chance meetings with them,
or what you see in the movies; not only is that racist, it's ignorant (which
are one in the same, when it comes down to it), and if you are close-minded
enough to judge people like that, then keep your opinion to yourself. You
know they saying...opinions are like assholes; everyone's got one, but not
everyone needs to see it.
I'd have to agree with what J.W. (whoever that is) said a few posts/days ago
in another thread, that *love* should have nothing to do with race; if
you're that superficial, you shouldn't be in a relationship with anyone in t
he first place. And if Asian women are some sort of lust-fetish for you,
you're probably in the wrong group to begin with, on top of being a
self-righteous, hypocritical twit. My $0.02 :)
And just so you know, I'm Vietnamese-American, and have dated outside my
race (*gasp*)--white women and black women--as well as inside my race. If i
was to base my opinion of an entire race on my few-and-far-between
experiences, i'd come to the conclusion that "all white women are evil" or
something lame like that. But i'm not a closed-minded, judgmental, bitter
man. :)
And to the guy who's gettin his ass whooped by his wife: unless you're into
that BDSM scene, i suggest you either get some therapy for/with her, or move
on (how's that for an opinion?).
Have at it :)
Joshua
It's not really hatred. It's a feeling of frustration related to being
left out or left behind. Then again, it could be hatred, related to
thinking that oneself is the best thing since sliced bread, and then
finding out that one is just another crumb at the bottom of the plastic
wrapper. **snff -- wipes tear**
> Yet you seem to think it's okay to categorize a particular race
> of Asian women as "lying whores". Maybe you should take a look in the
> mirror and judge yourself before you try to judge others.
Not bloody likely. This newsgroup is implicitly egocentric. No
self-reflection is permitted. Only extroverted animosity generated by
prolonged inner-directed fantasizing. Self-reflection might trigger
self-awareness. Self-awareness could shift critical mass towards
self-empowerment. Then there would be nothing left to whine about or
feel persecuted about because then the self would realize that it would
need to work and take responsibility for its own actions. That's
terrible -- taking responsibility for one's disposition -- no way to
blame anyone else for one's problems except one self. And then, one's
entire identity would have to change, which is the most distressing
thing of all.
> You can't base
> your opinion of a certain race of women on a few chance meetings with them,
> or what you see in the movies; not only is that racist, it's ignorant (which
> are one in the same, when it comes down to it), and if you are close-minded
> enough to judge people like that, then keep your opinion to yourself. You
> know the saying...opinions are like assholes; everyone's got one, but not
> everyone needs to see it.
Eeew.
> I'd have to agree with what J.W. (whoever that is) said a few posts/days ago
> in another thread, that *love* should have nothing to do with race; if
> you're that superficial, you shouldn't be in a relationship with anyone in t
> he first place. And if Asian women are some sort of lust-fetish for you,
> you're probably in the wrong group to begin with, on top of being a
> self-righteous, hypocritical twit. My $0.02 :)
> And just so you know, I'm Vietnamese-American, and have dated outside my
> race (*gasp*)--white women and black women--as well as inside my race.
I hate Vietnamese, by the way. I don't know you, but MSG told me I
should I should react more as a racial being because I have no other
choice.
> If i
> was to base my opinion of an entire race on my few-and-far-between
> experiences, i'd come to the conclusion that "all white women are evil" or
> something lame like that. But i'm not a closed-minded, judgmental, bitter
> man. :)
> And to the guy who's gettin his ass whooped by his wife: unless you're into
> that BDSM scene, i suggest you either get some therapy for/with her, or move
> on (how's that for an opinion?).
I thought he was just kidding, but it was funny in any event.
> Have at it :)
> Joshua
(I really don't hate you. I'm just trying to placate MSG). Have a nice
day.
> Well, I also would like to know whether it is true that a tourist could
> easily find a hooker at any motel/hotel in Taiwan, especially in Taipei. I'll
> be travelling to Singapore in three weeks and I'll be transiting and possibly
> spending a night in Taipei. I'd love to have an experience with Taiwanese
> call girl at the airport hotel. Please if you don't mind telling me where or
> what I should do to find a call girl and how much they usually cost ?
If you are going to S'pore, don't bother with Taiwanese call girls.
These days, most of them are from Malaysia or Thailand.
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: Are Vietnamese girls nicer than Taiwanese girls?
>From: kyo...@my-dejanews.com
>Date: Sun, Sep 27, 1998 01:09 EDT
>Message-id: <6ukha0$m5a$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
>
>Well, I also would like to know whether it is true that a tourist could
>easily find a hooker at any motel/hotel in Taiwan, especially in Taipei. I'll
>be travelling to Singapore in three weeks and I'll be transiting and possibly
>spending a night in Taipei. I'd love to have an experience with Taiwanese
>call girl at the airport hotel. Please if you don't mind telling me where or
>what I should do to find a call girl and how much they usually cost ?
>
>Thanks.
>
>ps: please reply by e-mail only
Thanks.
ps: please reply by e-mail only.
Yes I am an Vietnamese American guy and I admit Asian males are bad. We
are the worst actually, hypocritical,chauvinistic, narrow minded racist
assholes haha. I get the point! Now go and date whoever you want.
Viny
--
Vinh Do
"My blood flows today for the sake of freedom"
How dumb a dumb ass could be: came to SCV and called Vietnamese women
whores! Perhaps, Foo's mom and his(?) wife or sisters or other females
in his(?) household are all whores so he(?) couldn't see anything else
that women could possibly become!?
I'm sure there are decent Taiwanese women too. And I'm also sure they
would be ashamed for having an idiot like you flattering, advertising
them...
Get the fuck out of here! Go to soc.culture. chinese or soc.culture.
taiwanese and bitch, whine, or brag to them, asshole!
n.t.
(a man who has respect for Taiwanese women)
Novey
In article <qp5P1.391$Ch.17...@storm.twcol.com>,
jwoe...@columbus.rr.com says...
>
> You guys confuse me sometimes. I've been lurking here for quite some time,
> and the general attitude here seems to be that you hate Asian women (or at
> least hate the idea of it) who date/marry/have intimate relations with a
> non-Asian man (dunno what you think about Asian lesbians and non-Asian
> lesbians). Yet you seem to think it's okay to categorize a particular race
> of Asian women as "lying whores". Maybe you should take a look in the
> mirror and judge yourself before you try to judge others. You can't base
> your opinion of a certain race of women on a few chance meetings with them,
> or what you see in the movies; not only is that racist, it's ignorant (which
> are one in the same, when it comes down to it), and if you are close-minded
> enough to judge people like that, then keep your opinion to yourself. You
> know they saying...opinions are like assholes; everyone's got one, but not
what makes anyone think the turd who posted the orig article about being beat
on by his tw wife was an am? i was just thinking, troll troll troll your
post, roughly across scaa... like what real human being would ask a question
like that? i think it's a put-on.
msg
> In article <qp5P1.391$Ch.17...@storm.twcol.com>,
> jwoe...@columbus.rr.com says...
> >
> > You guys confuse me sometimes. I've been lurking here for quite some time,
> > and the general attitude here seems to be that you hate Asian women (or at
> > least hate the idea of it) who date/marry/have intimate relations with a
> > non-Asian man (dunno what you think about Asian lesbians and non-Asian
> > lesbians). Yet you seem to think it's okay to categorize a particular race
> > of Asian women as "lying whores". Maybe you should take a look in the
> > mirror and judge yourself before you try to judge others. You can't base
> > your opinion of a certain race of women on a few chance meetings with them,
> > or what you see in the movies; not only is that racist, it's ignorant (which
> > are one in the same, when it comes down to it), and if you are close-minded
> > enough to judge people like that, then keep your opinion to yourself. You
> > know they saying...opinions are like assholes; everyone's got one, but not
> > everyone needs to see it.
>
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
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Tiang Foo <tf...@utdallas.edu> wrote in article
<6uhelt$ck3$1...@news.seed.net.tw>...
> Vietnamese women are selfish, lying whores.
> Taiwan women are warm, loving, wonderful ladies.
> You are lucky to marry Taiwan girl. Do'nt regret!
>
>
>
> In article <6tv28e$8kh$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, ben...@my-dejanews.com
says...
> >
> >I would like to know if Vietnamese girls are nicer
> >than Taiwanese girls. I recently married a girl from
> >Taiwan and I was wondering if I made the right choice.
> >She treats me nice, but she also has a bad temper
> >and beats me sometimes. Before we were married,
> >I flirted with a few Vietnamese girls and had
> >a good experience with them. I would like to know
> >if I made a mistake. Do Vietnamese girls make
> >better wives?
> >
My very sympathy :(((( . May be you should divorce your TW girl and mend your
broken heart with a sweet Tie^?u Thu'y (tieu...@aol.com) .
Good luck,
TTU
1. I am a real American male who has been married to a Taiwanese woman for
almost 2 years.
2. We met in school and she's not a mailorder bride.
2. She does abuse me sometimes.
3. I realize that you can't generalize about people and say that ALL
members of a nationality are a certain way.
However, I asked this question because I was wondering if it was a cultural
thing for TW women to beat their men. Is this normal?
I'm a lot bigger than her and I know I can't hit back. Maybe if I found out
husband abuse was common in TW then maybe I could accept it more.
Your advice is appreciated.
>I truly feel sorry for you guys; I found Taiwanese girls are beautiful and
>charming; Vietnamese girls are pretty and fun.
>
I'd risk a bit talking turkey (smirk) on usenet about this subject.
I'll use different words and terminology.
Different asian girls have their own, err, flavor....
Some guy was ranthing the other day about szecuan (sP?) woman.
(rimshot)
And lets just say for that guy who married a taiwanese woman , I hope
you have
had-your-dick-bit-off-and-spit-down-your-throat-and-yanked-out-your-asshole
insurance.
If you want nice. Downright timid. Marry a hmong-rel woman. No more
complaints about leaving the toilet seat down. These women STAND UP
to piss.
And she'll be just content with having a home. And if she acts up,
you can threaten to kick her out of the house.
I have no experince with viet women, relationship wise....
I often get cold feet and wear shoes in the house. So there would be
a problem there.
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In article <6uph3u$sjr$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
ben...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> I'm the one who wrote the original question about Taiwanese/Vietnamese girls.
> I want to thank everyone who responded. Wow! I think
> most of the replies were against me, but that's probably
> my fault. I didn't explain who I was. To clarify any misconceptions about me:
>
> 1. I am a real American male who has been married to a Taiwanese woman for
> almost 2 years.
>
> 2. We met in school and she's not a mailorder bride.
>
> 2. She does abuse me sometimes.
>
> 3. I realize that you can't generalize about people and say that ALL
> members of a nationality are a certain way.
>
> However, I asked this question because I was wondering if it was a cultural
> thing for TW women to beat their men. Is this normal?
> I'm a lot bigger than her and I know I can't hit back. Maybe if I found out
> husband abuse was common in TW then maybe I could accept it more.
> Your advice is appreciated.
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: Are Vietnamese girls nicer than Taiwanese girls?
>From: ben...@my-dejanews.com
>Date: Mon, Sep 28, 1998 22:36 EDT
>Message-id: <6uph3u$sjr$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>