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QUAN YIN METHOD! WHAT IS IT?

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David T.D. Tran

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Samba <ttr...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> wrote:
>!What the heck is that Quan Yin method??? Methodlogy gi\ huh?
>!
>!tt
>!

Dear tt:

Following is the information about the Quan Yin Method. If you have any
other questions. Please let us know.

Best regards,

David Tran
--
The Quan Yin Method WWW
http://futures.phys.cmu.edu (in USA)
http://www.magi.com/~quanyin/homepage.html (In Canada)
--


Quan Yin Method, the mediation on
the Inner Light and Inner Sound
---------------------------------

Quan Yin Method is a non-denominational meditation technique on both the
Inner Light and the Inner Sound. The Chinese characters "Quan Yin" mean
contemplation of the sound vibration. These inner experiences have been
repeatedly described in the spiritual literature of all the world's
religions since ancient times.

With this method, we can all attain understanding of the great joy,
compassion and heavenly bliss described n religious and spiritual
scriptures around the world. More than just a simple meditation
technique, this living teaching brings to anyone who sincerely desires it
the ability to carry the meditative state into all aspects of their
lives. It offers each of us a way to have true love and understanding for
our fellow beings, to play our part in society while still keeping our
mind clear of worry and attachment, and a way to find freedom here and
beyond this world.

For example, the Christian Bible says, "In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1) This Word is
the Inner Sound. It has also been called the Logos, Shabd, Tao,
Soundstream, Naam, or the Celestial Music. Suma Ching Hai says, "It
vibrates within all life and sustains the whole universe. This inner
melody can heal all wounds, fulfil all desires, and quench all worldly
thirst. It is all powerful and all love. It is because we are made of
this Sound, that contact with it brings peace and contentment to our
hearts. After listening to this Sound, our whole being changes, our
entire outlook on life is greatly altered for the better.

The Inner Light, the Light of God, is the same light as in the word
"enlightenment." Its intensity can range from a subtle glow to the
brilliance of many millions of suns. It is through the Inner Light and
Sound that we come to know God.

Suma Ching Hai, the great teacher of
the Quan Yin Method
------------------------------------

Suma Ching Hai teaches the importance of this practice of meditation,
inner contemplation, and prayer. She explains that we must discover our
own Inner Divine Presence, if we are to be truly happy in this life. She
teaches that enlightenment is not esoteric and out of reach, attainable
only by those who retreat from society. Her job is to awaken the Divine
Presence within, while we lead normal lives. She states, "It is like
this. We all know the Truth. It's just that we forgot it. So, sometimes
someone has to come and remind us of the purpose of our life, why we must
find the Truth, why we must practice meditation, and why we must believe
in God." She asks no one to follow Her. She simply offers Her own
Enlightenment as an example, so that others may gain their own Ultimate
Liberation.

For some, Suma Ching Hai is their Mother, for some She is their Father,
and for others She is their Beloved. At the least, She is the very best
Friend you could ever have in this world. She is here to give to you, not
to take. She takes no payment of any kind for Her teachings, help or
initiation. The only thing She will take from you is your suffering, your
sorrow and pain. But only if you want this!

In recent years She has travelled and taught throughout Asia, the United
States, Latin America and Europe. Many people from all walks of life, and
from many different religious backgrounds, have made great spiritual
progress with Her help. Although no formal organization exists to spread
Her teachings, grateful friends and disciples are to be found all over
the world, ready and willing to help others learn from their beloved
Master.

In addition to helping countless numbers of people through Her spiritual
teachings and initiations. Suma Ching Hai has used her boundless energy
to assist those who are suffering or in need. In recent years, Her
humanitarian efforts have touched the hearts and lives of millions of
people all over the world. She does not discriminate between suffering
caused by spiritual ignorance, material privation, or circumstantial
events. Wherever there is suffering, She will help.

Although She has not sought acknowledgement of any kind, Suma Ching Hai
has been recognized and honored for Her humanitarian work by government
officials throughout the world. For example, October 25, 1993 was
proclaimed "The Suma Ching Hai Day" by the mayor of Honolulu Hawaii, and
February 22, 1994 was likewise proclaimed by the governors of the States
of Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Kansas, Missouri and Minnesota. She also
received the "World Peace Award" in Honolulu, an the "World Spiritual
Leadership Award" at a ceremony in Chicago on February 22, 1994.

Initiation into the Quan Yin Method
-----------------------------------

Suma Ching Hai accepts people from all backgrounds and religious
affiliations for initiation. You do not have to change your present
religion or system of beliefs. You will not be asked to join any
organization, or participate in any way that does not suit your current
life style.

Suma Ching Hai's goal is to teach us to be self sufficient. Therefore,
She teaches a Method that can be practiced by everyone, by themselves,
without props or paraphernalia of any kind. She is not looking for
followers, worshippers, or disciples, or establishing an organization
with a dues paying membership. She will not accept money, prostrations,
or gifts from you, so you do not need to offer these to Her.

However, you will be asked to become a vegetarian. A lifetime commitment
to the vegetarian diet is a necessary prerequisite for receiving
initiation. She will accept your sincerity in daily life and meditational
practice to progress yourself to sainthood.

Suma Ching Hai offers free of charge and conditions to anyone seeking the
Truth. She does not personally accept any donations, all of her public
lectures are offered free of charge, and initiation into the Quan Yin
method of meditation is given to anyone who is truly dedicated to their
own spiritual development. She says that a spiritual teacher should never
charge the student for what they already own. She simply opens the door
to our own inner wisdom and then guides and protects us until we have
fully realized our own treasure inside.

The initiation into the Quan Yin Method is not an esoteric ritual or a
ceremony for entering a new religion. During the initiation, specific
instruction in meditation on the Inner Light and Inner Sound is given,
and Suma Ching Hai provides the "spiritual transmission." This first
taste of Divine Presence is given in silence. Suma Ching Hai need not be
physically present in order to open this door for you. This transmission
is an essential part of the Method. The techniques themselves will bring
little benefit without the Grace of the Master.

Because you may hear the Inner Sound and see the Inner Light immediately
upon initiation, this event is sometimes referred to as "sudden" or
"immediate enlightenment."

Daily practice of the Quan Yin Method of meditation, and the keeping of
the "Five Precepts" are your only requirements after initiation. The
Precepts are guidelines that help you to neither harm yourself nor any
other living being. These practices will deepen and strengthen your
initial enlightenment experience, and allow you to eventually attain the
highest levels of Awakening or Buddhahood for yourself. Without daily
practice, you will almost certainly forget your enlightenment and return
to a normal level of consciousness.

The Five Precepts
-----------------

1. Refrain from taking the life of sentient beings.
2. Refrain from speaking what is not true.
3. Refrain from taking what is not offered.
4. Refrain from sexual misconduct.
5. Refrain from the use of intoxicants.

* The keeping of this precept requires a vegan or lacto-vegetarian diet.


The Quan Yin Method WWW
-----------------------

Several fellow initiates in the USA, Canada, and Formosa joined the new
trend and started servers to spread Master's teachings voluntarily
through the World Wide Web.

At this moment, information in the Quan Yin Method WWW Home Page includes
the sample booklet, News magazines from issue #33 to the latest issue,
new book information, information on the Vegetarian Houses; and a news
bulletin.

The Quan Yin Method URL's:
--------------------------

http://futures.phys.cmu.edu (in USA)
http://www.magi.com/~quanyin/homepage.html (In Canada)
http://fiber.ieo.nctu.edu.tw:5000/ (In Taiwan)

To reach more people worldwide, documents are available in various
languages (English, Chinese, and Vietnamese) and five different formats:
two Chinese code formats and two Vietnamese formats plus an English
format).

To take advantage of electronic communication, the servers even allow
visitors to send electronic mail messages to fellow initiates on-line.
This two-way communication enables the visitors to know more about our
method in a convenient way.

For the Truth seekers, the practice of Quan Yin Method is a precious
opportunity of lifetime. It's the supreme path toward one's own Great
Awakening.


How to contact us?
------------------

The disciples, or fellow practitioners of Suma Ching Hai have established
many International Associations and Centers throughout the world. The
Main Headquarters and center for publishing is in Taiwan:

Suma Ching Hai International Association
P.O. Box 9, Hsihu
Miaoli Hsien
Formosa, Republic of China

Liaison fellow practitioners are people who have received initiation in
the Quan Yin Method, and who have volunteered to assist others who wish
to either receive initiation or learn more about Suma Ching Hai's
teachings. They are ready to help you with your questions. They can
assist you with selecting the audio and video cassettes, and publications
which would be most suitable for you. They can also keep you informed of
Suma Ching Hai's lecture schedule, retreat and some other activities.

Our Liaison Fellow Practitioners over the World
-----------------------------------------------

AFRICA
R.S.Africa:
.Cape Town Mr. Ching-Yang Lu 27-21-610784
.Johannesburg Mr. Ching Tsung Ku 27-11-3347700

AMERICA
Argentina Ms. Hui-Ling Ling 54-1-8656070
Ms. Yu-Chiung Wei 54-1-4461060
Brazil Mr. & Mrs. Cheng-Ting Tsai 55-11-261-0717
Canada:
.Kingston Mr. Quang Thanh Le 613-384-3295
.London Mr. & Mrs. Feng Cao 519-438-3702
.Montreal Montreal Center 514-272-0170
Mr. & Mrs. Gerard Mangerel 514-967-5105
Mr. Hung The Nguyen 514-494-7511
Mr. & Mrs. Nai-Chi Hsu 514-448-1858
.Ottawa Mr. & Mrs. David Trung Dung Tran 613-834-7280
.Toronto Toronto Center 905-278-8087
Ms. Diep Hoa 905-897-0650
Mr. & Mrs. Lenh Van Pham 416-282-5297
Ms. Zhen Yan Wang & 416-650-5548
Mr. Zhen Bin Wang
.Vancouver Mr. David Stevens 604-535-7268
Ms. Li-Hwa Liau 604-541-1530
Chile Mr. & Mrs. Andres Lai 56-2-7372281
Mr. & Mrs. Chung-Hui Liao 56-2-6951523
Colombia Mr. & Mrs. Jose Guzman Alonso 57-1-2261245
Costa Rica Costa Rica Center 506-2398666
Ms. Aura Trejos 506-2246159
Mr. Rolando Hwang 506-2326686
Honduras Mr. Ming-Jen Wang 504-381238
Mexico:
.Guanajuato Mr. & Mrs. Jose Luis Sánchez Vargas 52-4-7434557
Panama Ms. Nuvia Angulo 507-609290
Ms. Alicia Chang 507-293041
Salvador Mr. & Mrs. Ming-Sen Lu 503-746282
USA:
.Arizona Mr. & Ms. Nguyen Cong Minh 602-581-0725
.Arkansas Bhiksuni Miao Kuang 501-253-6685
Mr. Robert Jeffreys 501-253-8287
California:
.Los Angeles Los Angeles Center 909-245-7629
Mr. & Mrs. Steven Henderson 909-699-6945
Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Tung Ngo 818-357-0555
Mr. & Mrs. Hao Tran Dang 714-832-7764
Mr. & Mrs. Giang Ly Nguyen 714-490-0396
Mr. Tony Chu 818-445-3577
.Sacramento Mr. & Mrs. Hieu De Tu 916-682-9540
.San Diego San Diego Center 619-280-7982
Mr. Ha Huu Phuoc 619-679-3434
Mr. & Mrs. Tang Thi 619-268-8651
.San Jose Ms. Sophie Lapaire 415-493-3355
Ms. Annie Nguyen 408-998-2342
Mr. & Mrs. Edgar Shyuan 408-463-0297
.San Francisco San Francisco Center 415-206-9131
Mr. Tony Patel 415-592-9639
Mr. & Mrs. Dan Hoang 415-467-9119
Colorado Mr. & Mrs. Steven Wander 303-229-0259
Florida Mr. & Mrs. Thai Dinh Nguyen 813-458-2639
Mr. & Mrs. Michall Lin 407-298-5864
Georgia Bhiksuni Ch'an Mo 404-936-9926
Ms. Chiung-Chen Chin 404-493-9872
Hawaii Mr. & Mrs. Robert Truong 808-531-2183
Illinois Mr. & Mrs. John W. Hickey 708-963-2821
Mr. & Mrs. Juian L. Chen 708-416-3821
Ms. Hanh Vu 815-223-6376
Indiana Mr. Peter Lu 317-297-2627
Kentucky Mr. & Mrs. Nguyen Minh Hung 502-695-7257
Ms. Rui Wang 606-3233274
Massachusetts:
.Boston Boston Center 508-251-7466
Ms. Gan Mai-Ky 508-791-7316
Mr. & Mrs. Huan-Chung Li 508-957-7021
Maryland Mr. Nguyen Van Hieu 301-933-5217
Minnesota Ms. Quach Ngoc 612-722-7328
Mr. Lingjie Guo 612-378-0536
New Jersey New Jersey Center 201-209-1651
Mr. & Mrs. Nghiem The Trung 609-667-3829
New Mexico Mr. Lu Diep 505-256-1351
New York Ms. Paz Huneeus 212-935-0525
Mr. & Mrs. Chih-Hua Tung 718-372-3921
North Carolina Mr. & Mrs. Huynh Thien Tan 919-460-4622
Ohio Mr. & Mrs. Vu Van Phuong 513-887-8597
Mr. Xiumin Heh 614-592-2707
Oklahoma Mr. & Mrs. Tran Kim Lam 405-685-5881
Oregon:
.Portland Mr. & Mrs. Minh Tran 503-235-2305
Mr. & Mrs. Alister Phuoc Minh Pham 503-642-1252
Mr. Marco S. Gallage 503-775-3601
Pennsylvania Mr. & Mrs. Diep Tam Nguyen 610-626-5546
Mr. & Mrs. Shi-Tao Yeh 610-640-0463
Texas:
.Austin Mr. Dean Duong Tran 512-837-1684
Mr. Robert Yuan 512-326-3786
.Dallas Dallas Center 800-339-9025
.Houston Houston Center 713-444-5529
Mr. Arther Michael 713-622-3172
Mr. & Mrs. Nguyen Van Tuan 713-444-0269
Mr. & Mrs. Nguyen Van Nghia 713-896-6268
Ms. Alice Yen 713-973-0220
Mr. Robert Yuan 512-326-3786
.San Antonio Mr. Khoi Kim Le 210-558-6088
Virginia Mr. Tuan Nguyen 703-241-1342
Washington
.Seattle Mr. Robert A. Strandberg 206-352-0262
Mr. Ben Tran 206-453-0698
Ms. Sandy Cheng 206-726-9373

Formosa:
.Keelung Mr. & Mrs. Kun-Neng Lu 02-4579617
.Taipei Taipei Center 02-3756429
Mr. & Mrs. Chan-Jung Yeh 02-9781379
.Taoyuan Taoyuan Center 03-3328082
Mr. Cheng-I Chang 03-3825658
Ms. Hsing-Hsin Lee 03-4557216
.Hsinchu Mr. & Mrs. Shan-Wen Ko 035-328868
.Taichung Mr. & Mrs. Kuo-Cheng Hung 04-2210413
.Nantou Mr. & Mrs. Bi-Da Shyu 049-896383
Ms. Yu-Shuang Jiaan 049-329620
.Changhua Yuanlin Center 04-8310021
Mr. Chen-Chou Kao 04-7230395
.Chiayi Ms. Ling-Yu Su 05-2333307
.Tainan Mr. & Mrs. Shan-Hwa Chen 06-2688097
.Kaohsiung Mr. & Mrs. Chien-Fa Huang 07-8716526
.Pingtung Mr. Yu-Te Su 08-8633396
.Ilan Mr. & Mrs. Tsung-Yuan Yu 039-382650
.Hualien Ms. Li-Yen Yang 038-327120
.Taitung Mr. Yu Fang 089-333789
.Penghu Mr. & Mrs. Jan-Au Shiu 06-9276476
Hong Kong:
Shamshuipo Center 852-7082305
Liaison office 852-6378257
Indonesia:
.Surabaya Mr. Rong-Tser Teng 62-31-578962
.Jakarta Mr. Tai Eng Chew 62-21-3856310
.Semarang Mr. & Mrs. Swie An Sia 62-24-556525
Japan:
.Tokyo Mr. & Mrs. Yasuhiro Okawado 81-3-3748-0207
Mr. Wei Ping Wu 81-4-25778766
.Kanagawaken Mr. Minh Phuong 81-462-680386
Korea:
.Seoul Seoul Center 82-2-5012158
Ms. Soong-Ja Park 82-2-7923313
Mr. Jae-Bok Kim 82-2-6973928
.Pusan Pusan Center 82-51-5813761
Mr. Chang-Ha Chung 82-51-7524380
.Chon Ju Mr. Ji-Hwan Yim 82-652-2529088
.Inchon Mr. Yong-Je Baeg 82-32-5294667
.Taegu Taegu Center 82-53-4713189
Mr. & Mrs. Yoon-Byung Lee 82-53-5832489
.Taejon Taejon Center 82-42-2214809
Mr. & Mrs. Sung Ho Park 82-42-8610567
Malaysia:
.Penang Penang Center 60-4-364469
Mr. & Mrs. Fung-Neng Lim 60-4-839300
Mr. & Mrs. Han-Chye Yeoh 60-4-214605
.Kuala Lumpur Kuala Lumpur Center 60-3-9826149
Mr. & Mrs. Kang Sin Chin 60-3-7803393
Philippines Manila Center 63-2-8234743
Singapore Singapore Center 65-7417001
Ms. Mei-Ling Shu 65-2435169
Mr. & Mrs. Sak Kim Choo 65-3451437
Mr. & Mrs. Tan Chee Wan 65-2868441
Mr. & Mrs. Koh Lik Jin 65-7879545
Mr. & Mrs. Thio Soey Cheong 65-4668647

Thailand Thailand Center 66-2-2784054
Ms. Nantana Ma 66-2-2398361

EUROPE
Austria Mr. Kurt Kastner 43-1-4605502
Mr. Shih-Tsung Lu 43-1-5236978
Belgium
.Brussels Mr. & Mrs. Chantraine Jacky 32-2-4791546
.Aalst Ms. Mei Jane Lai 32-53-780011
.Louvain-La-Neuve Mr. & Ms. Luo Hong 32-2-10-455764
Denmark Ms. Lee Ping Brooks 45-75-151114
United Kingdom:
.Surrey Mr. & Mrs. John Young 44-1342-824619
Mr. Xiao Tang 44-1342-842202
.Oxford Mr. & Mrs. Shih-Hurng Loh 44-1865-244321
.London Mr. Mohan Singh 44-171-2895383
Finland Ms. Nguyen Thi Vien 35-80-342-1143
France:
.Paris Mr. Lebreton Patrick 33-1-44622297
Ms. Pin-Shan Hsiung 33-1-44248323
.Vaires/Marne Mr. & Mrs. Abdul Alim Pascal 33-1-60200014
.Montpellier Mr. Nguyen Tich Hung 33-67413257
Germany:
.Berlin Ms. Monika Ratering 49-30-4614510
Mr. & Mrs. Nguyen Van Nghia 49-30-6053498
Mr. Liang-Tsai Ho 49-30-8593354
.Dusseldorf Mr. Nguyen Van Luc 49-21-1224075
.Dortmund Ms. Heike Freuzel 49-23-1-7261816
.Hamburg Ms. Kruse Antje 49-40-6061922
.Munchen Ms. Carolin Gschwilm 49-89-2014583
Mr. Cao Cong Hau 49-89-1503092
Ms. Chwan-Ying Lee 49-89-5809160
Holland:
.Nijmegen Mr. Dang Van Chanh 31-80-730511
.Amsterdam Mr. Nguyen Ngoc Trung 31-29-4019783
Hungary Ms. Nguyen Thi Ngoc Bich 36-1-2229477
Poland Mr. Jozef Darski 48-61-777856
Spain:
.Madrid Ms. Xi- Li Wang 34-1-4754732
.Valencia Ms. Xi-Chun Wang &
Ms. Xiu-Lan Yang 34-6-3331850
Sweden Ms. Pooi Lin Chen 46-8-7403792
Ms. Wong Yot Yin 46-8-6419061
Switzerland
.Geneva Ms. Feng-Li Liu 41-22-7851673
.Neuchatel Ms. Dong Vinh Perrenoud 41-38-244209

OCEANIA
Australia:
.Brisbane Mr. Gerard Bisshop 617-8471646
Mr. To Dac Loc 617-3434613
Mr. & Mrs. Yun-Lung Chen 617-3442519
.Sydney Mr. & Mrs. Lam Anh Tuan 61-2-8294408
Mr. Hong Bo 61-2-6461612
Ms. Louis Girardi 61-2-6104618
.Melbourne Mr. Daniel Drenic 61-3-578-4074
Mr. Ho Van Duong 61-3-853-1898
Mr. & Mrs. Nguyen Luong Nang 61-3-399-1893
.Perth Mr. & Mrs. Trinh Van Quang 61-9-275-7602
.Canberra Mr. & Mrs. Khanh Huu Hoang 61-6-2591993
Ms. Tamara Devis 61-6-2486500
.Adelaide Mr. Nguyen Huu Hiep 61-8-2431542
New Zealand
.Tauranga Mr. & Mrs. Wayne Tane 64-7-5769018
Ms. Pi-Hsia Chang 64-7-5765157

STAVROS of Pureshitland

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Here is How the Quan Yin Method was developed by Ching Hai

The story of Ching Hai's life as revealed in the thesis of U.C. graduate
Eric Lai.

According to Lai's research, the Supreme Master was born Hue Dang Trinh
on May 12, 1950, in a small village in Vietnam, in the same province
which later saw the My Lai massacre.. The daughter of a Vietnamese
mother and an ethnic Chinese father, Trinh reportedly hung out with
American soldiers as a teenager, and bore one, a daughter. At nineteen
during the height of the Vietnam war Trinh left home with a German
doctor working for an international relief organization. Trinh's
daughter later killed herself at age 20. Trinh married the doctor and
the couple moved first to Britain then to Germany.
There she met a Buddhist monk who she followed for three years until she
was denied entrance to the monastery on the basis of gender. Trinh then
moved to India to study Buddhism. it was here that she became the prize
student of Thakar Singh, who has just splintered off from a Buddhist
order, Radhasoami, to form his own sect, Kirpal Light Satsang. Thakar
Singh turned out to be the most scandalous guru in the history of the
Radhasoami, writes David Christopher Lane, who while a graduate student
at U.C. Berkeley met Singh in India, and has since traced the guru's
checkered career. According to Lanes findings: "By mid 1980s reports
circulated throughout the world how Thakar had embezzled money, indulged
in sexual affairs with numerous women and had engaged in violent
interactions with disciples. Some of the accusations included tying
women up and beating them regularly. But by the time Singh's crimes
came to light Ching Hai had already learned from him the light and sound
meditation technique and had left for Taiwan."
Lai's research revealed that in Taiwan, in 1983, Trinh studied with a
Buddhist nun Xing-jing. Unaware of her association with Singh, Xing-jing
officially ordained Trinh in the order and gave her religious name
"Ching Hai" which translates form the Mandarin "pure ocean".
The next year Ching Hai moved to a Buddhist temple in Queens, New York.
she taught meditation and meditated herself up to four hours a day. One
former colleague told Lai "We were impressed by her devotion and
sincerity. But a year and a half later Ching Hai began teaching the
"light and sound" technique to her students,, though few responded
favorably returning to Taiwan in 1986, Ching Hai lured followers away
from her former master Xing-jing and set up a makeshift temple in an
apartment in the Taipei suburbs. rumors about her prophetic abilities
and unique mediation methods earned her a large following. by 1987
posters of Ching Hai appeared all over Taipei . By the time the
Taiwanese Buddhist community learned of Ching Hai's connection to the
disgraced Satsang cult, it was too late. The new Messiah had been born.

David T.D. Tran

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Dear anhminh,

You've posted several articles regarding about the Quan Yin Method and
Master Ching Hai. I'm not sure if you had a chance to verify what Rafer
Guzma and the others wrote. But I found that there were many un-true info.

I'd like to remind you that it's not good for you if you spread the un-true
information to defame someone. You are not only create the unnecessary karma
for youself but you also mis-lead the others with your incorrect info.

I included some excerpts for you to read. I hope that you will consider what
I said.

Life is very short. Do something else better for your life.

Best regards,

David

STAVROS of Pureshitland (anh...@delphi.com) writes:
>The following is taken from IMMATERIAL GIRL by Rafer Guzma'n Published in
>the METRO, San Jose March 28 1996. An article about Ching Hai and her
>
[...]

>SPIRITUAL TUG OF WAR
>
>San Jose resident Steve Krysiak, who was involved with a Vietnamese
>follower of Ching Hai, has his own story to tell. "I compare it to Manson,"
>Krysiak says. "He imprinted them with LSD- I think Ching Hai uses
>meditation."
>In 1990 Krysiak met Trang (not her real name) a Vietnamese immigrant who
>had been captured by the communist in her homeland, but had escaped on the
>boats to America where she found work as a hair dresser. when the couple
>met Fremont, Trang had three children and was already following Ching Hai.
>
[...]

>fro Trang's affections. "Ching Hai wants them to mediate five hours a day,
>don't worry about the kids." says Krysiak, He claims he sometimes walk in
[...]

>Trang was not so lucky.. "She go thyroid disease." say Krysiak. "the
>Vietnamese use coarse salt for cooking, with no iodine added, you know. and
>Trang cut out her fish, she got thyroid disease. she had to go twice for
>radioactive treatment, and they killed too much thyroid. Now she has to
>take thyroid (medication) for the rest of her life." >

Suma Ching Hai answered on June 26, 1992 at the United Nations, New York

Q: Specifically, what does Your initiation involve and once
one is initiated, what would the day-to-day practice involve?
Suma Ching Hai: Okay. Yes. First of all, it's all free of
charge and no binding involved, except that you have to bind
yourself, should you want to continue to go further. Hmmm? So,
the conditions - no experience required. Yeah? No previous
knowledge about any yoga, or any meditation required. But
then, you have to commit yourself to a lifelong vegetarian
diet. No eggs. Milk okay. Cheese okay. Anything else without
killing is okay. Egg because it also involves of half-killing,
even though it's how to say... infertile. And also it has kind
of quality to have a tendency to attract negative power. You
know, that's why many people of the black and white magicians
field, or many voodoo people - so-called voodoo, they use eggs
to draw some of the entities from possessed persons. If you
know it or not? You know? Oh, that's fantastic! At least, I
have immediate proof, if not immediate enlightenment, for you.
(Laughter) And after initiation... the time of initiation, you
experience the light and the sound of God. Yeah? The music of
the spirit, it draws you up to the higher level of
consciousness. You will understand the taste of samadhi - the
deep peace and joy. Yes. And after that, you continue to
practice at home, if you are serious. If you are not, I cannot
push you, I cannot bother you any more.

If you con-tinue and you want me to help you all the way, then
I continue. If you do not... you see that's the way. And two
and a half hours a day meditation. Wake up early in the
morning.

Before you sleep, meditate two hours; and maybe half an hour
in the lunch time. When I am not here to speak, you have
one-hour lunch. You can hide away somewhere and meditate.
That's already one hour. Yeah? And in the evening, you make
one more hour or half an hour. In the morning, get up earlier
one hour. Regulate more of your life, you know, less TV, less
gossip, less telephone, less newspapers, then you have a lot
of time. Yes, truly we have a lot of time but sometimes we
waste away our time. Just like our car running in the backyard
instead of going to Long Island, yeah. Are you satisfied with
that? Or... ?

Yes? Yes, and nothing more. No conditions for you, nothing
else except you commit yourself to this lifelong practice. And
everyday you experience different changes for the better, and
different miracles for your life, not that you wish for it. It
will happen anyhow. Understand? And then you truly experience
what's heaven like on earth, if you are really serious about
it. That's how many hundreds of thousands of our disciples
still hang on, still hang on to me after many years, because
they have better and better experiences, because they are
serious about it and they do practice.

Suma Ching Hai answered on Mar 16, 1993 in Sydney, Australia

Q: Dear Master, there is always a fear of the unknown. How can
one be certain that the Quan Yin method is the right one?

Suma Ching Hai: Of course, you don't know until you try. But
as you see, from our lining principles, you can see that, even
if the Quan Yin method doesn't do you any good, or you are not
certain of the benefit of the Quan Yin method, one thing you
can be certain that it will do you no harm. No harm if you eat
vegetarian diet, at least, you will be healthy, if you don't
believe in any spiritual compassion at all. It is proved
scientifically that vegetarian diet is healthy for you. All
the hospitals in the world are built for the meat eaters. You
know that! Most of the meat eaters are in the hospitals
anyhow. Okay, one stand point.

The so-called five precepts are to protect you from the
uneasiness of mind. Should you have only a very loving and one
pointed relationship. You don't take what doesn't belong to
you. You do not gambling, which causes misery to yourself, to
your family and to others. You do not take alcohol and make
your mind, your vision blurs. And if you take drugs, it is not
good for you. So, for all this very apparent so-called
material guidelines, as least you know our teaching, our
method will benefit you somewhat. And from there you start.
And you get to know better.

At least, we offer you somewhat immediate proofs of
enlightenment. And at least, we don't cash any money for it,
before, between, and after. You have no conditions, no binding
whatsoever. Suppose even afterwards, you don't want us, we
also don't do anything to you. Understand? So, in any ways,
you don't lose anything, you will only gain. That is some
symbolic things I can tell you. But moreover, you might use
your intuitive wisdom to ascertain which path to follow. It
doesn't matter what I say, you have to know it. Pray to your
Inner Self, to God, to Jesus, to Allah, to Buddha, to whoever
you believe, to help you to decide. And if you see a stronger
pull to come to us, then you know it is for you. Should you do
not felt it or you felt stronger pull into the world. All
right. Then you are not yet ready. Understand? It is very
simple.

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