Cao says he put his district's needs over his party's wishes
Red Hot Pepper
Washington (CNN) - Rep. Anh "Joseph" Cao said Sunday he put the needs of
his district over the desire of his party in being the lone House
Republican to vote for a sweeping overhaul of the nation's health care
system.
Cao's "yes" vote ended up being unnecessary for House Democrats in the
220-215 tally, but as the only GOP member to support the bill, he gave
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi license to tout bipartisan support for the
controversial measure.
"I felt last night's decision was the proper decision for my district
even though it was not the popular decision for my party," Cao, a
first-term representative from Louisiana's traditionally Democratic 2nd
District, told CNN.
"A lot of my constituents are uninsured, a lot of them are poor," Cao
said. "It was the right decision for the people of my district."
The first Vietnamese-American to serve in the House, Cao defeated
nine-term Democratic incumbent William Jefferson in last year's
election. Jefferson was under indictment on money laundering and bribery
charges at the time, and has since been convicted.
Cao, a devout Catholic, said Sunday that an amendment to strengthen
anti-abortion language in the House bill cleared the way for his support.
"When that was worked out � I called the White House and said I could
possibly support the bill," said Cao, adding he discussed getting
continued help for his district as it seeks to fully recover from the
impact of Hurricane Katrina.
Asked about the reaction of fellow Republicans to his vote, Cao said the
party's leaders "respect my decision, and I respect theirs."
"To tell you the truth, neither one of us really knows what is the right
decision," he said of the complex health care bill, citing differing
reports and differing studies on its impact. "Ultimately, we have to
make that leap of faith."
The bill's approval by the House late Saturday night marked a major step
for Obama's top domestic priority. If the Senate now passes its own
version, the two bills would be merged, and the final version would
require approval from each chamber before being sent to the president
for his signature.
jupiterean
huongxuan
ho^. hay cho^'ng. Someone please gia?i thi'ch cho hx 1 ti' ni....1 ti'
ni. thay ddo^?i chi'nh tu+` existing healthcare system vo+'i ca'i mo
+'i ddu+o+.c cha^'p thua^.n ddu+o+.c kho^ng huh????
hx xin ca'm o+n ra^'t nhie^`u.
huongxuan_______
On Nov 8, 6:49 am, Red Hot Pepper <redhotpep...@yooha.com> wrote:
> Cao says he put his district's needs over his party's wishes
>
> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/08/cao-says-he-put-his-d...
>
> Washington (CNN) - Rep. Anh "Joseph" Cao said Sunday he put the needs of
> his district over the desire of his party in being the lone House
> Republican to vote for a sweeping overhaul of the nation's health care
> system.
>
> Cao's "yes" vote ended up being unnecessary for House Democrats in the
> 220-215 tally, but as the only GOP member to support the bill, he gave
> House Speaker Nancy Pelosi license to tout bipartisan support for the
> controversial measure.
>
> "I felt last night's decision was the proper decision for my district
> even though it was not the popular decision for my party," Cao, a
> first-term representative from Louisiana's traditionally Democratic 2nd
> District, told CNN.
>
> "A lot of my constituents are uninsured, a lot of them are poor," Cao
> said. "It was the right decision for the people of my district."
>
> The first Vietnamese-American to serve in the House, Cao defeated
> nine-term Democratic incumbent William Jefferson in last year's
> election. Jefferson was under indictment on money laundering and bribery
> charges at the time, and has since been convicted.
>
> Cao, a devout Catholic, said Sunday that an amendment to strengthen
> anti-abortion language in the House bill cleared the way for his support.
>
> "When that was worked out … I called the White House and said I could
jupiterean
"huongxuan" <pentago...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ab1b42b6-4383-46b4...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
hx kho^ng theo do~i vu. healthcare ne^n cha(?ng hie^?u gi` dde^? u?ng
ho^. hay cho^'ng. Someone please gia?i thi'ch cho hx 1 ti' ni....1 ti'
ni. thay ddo^?i chi'nh tu+` existing healthcare system vo+'i ca'i mo
+'i ddu+o+.c cha^'p thua^.n ddu+o+.c kho^ng huh????
hx xin ca'm o+n ra^'t nhie^`u.
huongxuan_______
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JoJ copy and paste -doa.n na`y tu+` tin cu?a CNN, ra^'t nga('n ne^n
de^~ -do.c :
The Affordable Health Care for America Act, or H.R. 3962, restricts
insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone with a pre-existing
condition or charging higher premiums based on gender or medical history. It
also provides federal subsidies to those who cannot afford it and guarantees
coverage for 96 percent of Americans, according to the nonpartisan
Congressional Budget Office.
Ne^'u tha`nh lua^.t, cha('c cha('n health insurance industry se~ pha?n pha'o
ba(`ng 1001 low tricks, cho+` xem :-)) Ne^n JoJ nghi~ public option is a
good idea.
n.t.
Hi chi. HX,
Ai cu~ng bie^'t o+? My~ na`y, da^n gia`u co^.i have everything, da^n
nghe`o get everything for FREE, chi? co' da^n ddi la`m va` ddo'ng
thue^' paid for EVERYTHING.
DDa so^' ngu da^n cu?a Cho+. Ca' co' le~ kho^ng ca^`n ri` pho^m ri`
phie^'c khi? gi` vi` phe ta thuo^.c loa.i "da^n chie^'n" :-)
Tuy nhie^n, vi` Healthcare ca`ng nga`y ca`ng to^'n ke'm vi` da^n
kho^ng co' insurance va^~n dduo+.c cha(m so'c nhu+ thuo+`ng, i.e.
Emergency Rooms va` vi` stock holders va` CEO cu?a ca'c ha~ng
Insurance vo+'i lo`ng tham hong dda'y... ne^n dde^'n ca? "da^n
chie^'n" cu~ng pha?i bu+.c mi`nh ve^` premiums va` deductions keep
going up!
DDa.i kha'i, QH se~ "ba('t buo^.c" ai cu~ng pha?i mua health
insurance, gio^'ng nhu+ state mandated liability coverage cu?a auto
insurance dzi. ddo'.
Va` vi` ai cu~ng se~ pay chu+' hong co' cho+i cuo^.i a(n free hoa`i
thi` premium cu?a mo.i nguo+`i se~ become steady if not going down
(the amounts of deductible costs may go down).
Public Option la` buo+'c dda^`u cu?a "Medicare for all" (so to speak)
dde^? keep tha(`ng private insurance ddu+`ng co' overcharge people.
Gio^'ng nhu+ ne^'u hong co' state parks or national parks thi` ddo+`i
na`o "phe ta" mo+'i dduo+.c vie^'ng nhu+~ng danh lam tha('ng ca?nh o+?
Me~o na`y (gio^'ng nhu+ Niagara Falls in the past, chi? co' qui'
to^.c co' tie^`n mo+'i dduo+.c vo^ cu+?a!).
Healthcare cost is spinning out of control. It's time to put a stop
on it. Co' nhie^`u nguo+`i, chi'nh kha'ch, qua' thu. ddo^.ng, hong
chi.u la`m gi` he^'t, nhu+ng khi co' nguo+`i kha'c chi.u la`m thi` mo
+'i la`m bo^. offer solutions na`y kia, kia no. :-)
just my 2 cents,
n.t.
Red Hot Pepper
not many people has a complete understanding of the proposed health care
reform. but in general:
http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AHCAA-REFORMMEANSFORYOU-102909.pdf
current health care system
1. you can be denied coverage
2. your insurers can cap your coverage or drop you if you get into a
major health problem.
3. if they don't cap or drop you, they can increase your premium to the
point of driving many people to bankruptcy.
4. monopoly by private insurers create huge profits for big corporations
at the expenses of poor and sick people.
proposed reformed health care system
1. everyone is covered. employers are expected to pay up to 76% (or
something like that) of your policy. if your income level is below a
certain point or if you are unemployed, you get subsidized.
2. coverage can�t be capped or dropped when you get sick
3. public insurance option run by government allows affordable coverage
and lower medical costs.
4. more competition to the private insurers and more choices for the people.
- insurance corporations are against reform because it will prevent them
from making big profits.
- some ordinary republicans are against it because they oppose the
public option, saying that it is socialist.
- some oppose it since they it it will make them to pay more for health
insurance.
- some other low-life republicans are against it simply just because
they are stupid.
>> "When that was worked out � I called the White House and said I could
Mai Dao
>
> - Show quoted text -
Theo Tui thi` ma^'y ca'i kha'c bie^.t chi'nh no' go^`n:
- Pha.t $ va` bo? tu` up to 5 na(m nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kho^ng thi ha`nh
bo^?n pha^.n mua|cung ca^'p health insurance cho mi`nh|employee ma`
cu~ng kho^ng chi.u no^.p pha.t. Ca'i na`y du`ng dde^? nga(n cha(.n nhu
+~ng ngu+o+`i nhu+ Mr Tuna tha` no^.p pha.t chu+' kho^ng mua health
insurance vi` se~ bi. ba('t bo? bo't. HeHe ... Nhu+ng Tui tha^'y ca'i
na`y tu+'c cu+`, vi` nha` tu` ba^y gio+` co`n pha?i tha? bo+'i to^.i
pha.m ra vi` kho^ng co' nga^n sa'ch, la^'y $ dda^u dde^? nuo^i tu` ...
kho^ng mua health insurance.
- Thu+o+.ng vie^.n du+. tru` la` 94% da^n Me~o se~ co' health
insurance (bill covers 94% of Americans). Tui kho^ng bie^'t con so^' 6
% kia la` cu?a ai. Cha('c la` ngu+o+`i tha` ddi tu`, ... .
Both the House and Senate bills require Americans to get insurance,
add new restrictions on insurers and encourage greater use of
preventive medicine, electronic records and research on the
effectiveness of treatments.
Medicaid Expansion
Many of the House provisions take effect in 2010. The elderly would
face no co-payments for preventive care and get help paying for drugs.
The uninsured would get temporary aid until new purchasing exchanges
are created, and young adults could stay on their parents’ plans until
they turn 27.
- Ma^'y ngu+o+`i gia`, kho^ng pha?i tra? $ co payment for preventive
care, .... Kho^ng pha?i co-pay khi tra? tie^`n mua thuo^'c.
- Co^ng ty se~ pha?i cung ca^'p health insurance cho con ca'i cu?a
employee up cho de^'n khi Tu.i no' 27 tuo^?i.
(Ma^'y ca'i na`y chi? 10 na(m nu+~a la` se~ double, tripple mu+'c
tie^u sa`i hie^.n gio+`, cho+' ho?ng pha?i cho+i. O no'i giu'p gia?m
deficit trong vo`ng 10 na(m ma` Tui tu+'c cu+`, ... cha(?ng le~ se~
cho uo^'ng xuye^n ta^m lie^n nha^.p ca?ng tu+` VN tri. ba' bi.nh ma`
tho^i).
House leaders also included an expansion of the government Medicaid
program for the poor, which may cost the federal government less than
providing subsidies to help people buy insurance. The plan would
expand eligibility to people whose incomes are 150 percent of the
official poverty level.
- Ngu+o+`i nghe`o (Income 1.5 cu?a poor level) se~ ddu+o+.c xin
Medicaid.
To finance their bill, House Democrats opted for a surtax on couples
who make more than $1 million a year. They would also impose a 2.5
percent excise tax on medical devices that the congressional Joint
Committee on Taxation estimates would raise $20 billion over 10
years.
- Ngu+o+`i|Co^ng ty la`m tre^n 500K se~ pha?i ddo'ng 2.5 % surtax
dde^? pay cho ca'i bill na`y. (Con so^' 2.5% la` do Tui ddo.c o+?
cho^~ kha'c). Ca'i na`y thi` Tui tha^'y DEM o+? Congress lu'c na`o
cu~ng kho^ng bie^'t la`m ti'nh, va` qua' rosy cho nhu+~ng ti'nh toa'n
sa`i $ cu?a ho. Bo+?i va^.y ma(.c du` ho. o^`n a`o chu? tru+o+`ng la`
se~ ta.o ra trie^.u trie^.u vie^.c la`m cho ngu+o+`i nghe`o. Nhu+ng
ke^'t qua? thi` ... ngu+o+.c la.i. Trie^.u trie^.u ngu+o+`i nghe`o
(nha^'t la` ddo^ng con se~ pha?i a(n tie^`n lu+o+ng cu?a so+? XH).
- Chi? trong vo`ng 10 na(m nu+~a, ne^'u thi ha`nh chi'nh sa'c welfare
na`y, 100M employees se~ pha?i ddo'ng thue^' dde^? cho 150M retire
Baby Bommers hu+o+?ng tro+. SSI (vi` tie^`n Baby Boomers dde^? da`nh
cho quy~ SS tax la^u nay se~ he^'t sa.ch trong vo`ng 10 na(m to+'i ma`
tho^i). DDo^`ng $ kho' kie^'m, vi` da^n USA ca`ng nga`y ca`ng ma^'t
the^' canh tranh trong thu+o+ng tru+o+`ng, la^~n co^ng ky~ nghe^..
DDa'm tre? sau na`y, vu+`a pha?i tra? no+. cho dda'm gia` kho^ng ne^n
tha^n (so^'ng i'ch ky? va` ba^'t lu+.c, chi? dde^? no+. cho con). 1 ddu
+'a ddi la`m nuo^i 1.5 ngu+o+`i gia` retire, ngu+o+`i bi.nh (tu+`
bi.nh thie^.t dde^'n bi.nh lu+o+`i). Thi` ... cha('c Tu.i no' stress
qua' so^'ng on $ unemployment cho ddo+~ kho^?. Cuo^'i cu`ng thi` 1 ddu
+"a nuo^i 2 ddu+'a a(n tie^`n tro+. ca^'p. Ma.t luo^n la` va^.y
Employer Mandate
The House bill also requires that employers offer insurance or pay a
penalty, with exemptions for businesses with payrolls of less than
$500,000. That is a subject of debate in the Senate, where the
chamber’s health committee included a mandate and the finance panel
rejected it.
The bill would make large businesses that self-insure their employees
pay $2 billion in fees over the next decade. And it adopts a Senate
proposal to set a $2,500 limit beginning in 2011 on contributions to
tax-advantaged Flexible Spending Accounts used to pay out-of-pocket
medical costs.
- Co^ng ty pha?i ddo'ng the^m thue^' cho chi'nh phu? chi phi' cho chu+o
+ng tri`nh na`y, va` ngu+o+`i self employ cu~ng kho^ng ddu+o+.c claim
tax deduct tre^n so^' tie^`n ddo'ng ba?o hie^?m su+'c kho?e tre^n
2.5K.
Tui du+. ddoa'n la` ca'i bill na`y se~ giu'p REP va` IND da' va(ng DEM
ra kho?i WH la^~n lu+o+~ng vie^.n QH trong chi? 3 na(m nu+~a. Mo+'i
tua^`n tru+o+'c, DEM dda~ thua dda^.m cho REP (ma(.c du` O to+'i la`m
show qua?ng ca'o i` xe`o) vi` da^n My~ co' kha? na(ng va` muo^'n tu+.
lo cho chi'nh mi`nh ca^`n ... jobs ho+n la` ca^`n medicare.
:))
wrote:
>Theo Tui thi` ma^'y ca'i kha'c bie^.t chi'nh no' go^`n:
>
>- Pha.t $ va` bo? tu` up to 5 na(m nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kho^ng thi ha`nh
>bo^?n pha^.n mua|cung ca^'p health insurance cho mi`nh|employee ma`
>cu~ng kho^ng chi.u no^.p pha.t. Ca'i na`y du`ng dde^? nga(n cha(.n nhu
>+~ng ngu+o+`i nhu+ Mr Tuna tha` no^.p pha.t chu+' kho^ng mua health
>insurance vi` se~ bi. ba('t bo? bo't. HeHe ... Nhu+ng Tui tha^'y ca'i
>na`y tu+'c cu+`, vi` nha` tu` ba^y gio+` co`n pha?i tha? bo+'i to^.i
>pha.m ra vi` kho^ng co' nga^n sa'ch, la^'y $ dda^u dde^? nuo^i tu` ...
>kho^ng mua health insurance.
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Yeah, tui kho^ng theo do~i vu. heo ke na`y la('m. Nhu*ng ddoa'n
ra(`ng se~ co' nhie^`u tro*? nga.i.
Small business owners kie^'m tie^`n dde^? tra? lu*o*ng, minimum wages
tho^i, cho nha^n vie^n co`n kho' kha(n nu*~a la` ba^y gio*` ddo`i ho.
pha?i mua ba?o hie^?m heo-ke cho toa`n the^? nha^n vie^n, va^n va^n...
Va^'n dde^` dda^`u tie^n ba^y gio*` cho nhie^`u ngu*o*`i va^~n la`
chuye^.n Tie^`n DDa^u ???
:-))))
:))
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Co' nhie^`u ddie^`i tui nghi~ se~ kho' thu*.c ha`nh theo lua^.t la('m.
Nhu* o*? ca'c tie^?u bang New, York, New Jersey, Texas va` California
cha(?ng ha.n.
No'i gi` thi` no'i chu*' ca'c ha~ng & small business ra^'t ca^`n
dde^'n su*. ddo'ng go'p su*'c lao ddo^.ng cu?a illigal immigrants.
Na.n tha^'t nghie^.p ddang cao va` se~ co`n kha' la^u mo*'i la^'y la.i
ddu*o*.c su*. qua^n bi`nh. Chi. MD thi` cu~ng ddang su*?a soa.n bo?
nghe^` dde^? ddi ngao so*n du thu?y.
I't ngu*o*`i ddo'ng thue^' thi` thi` chi'nh phu? se~ i't co' tie^`n.
Co^.ng the^m nu*~a la` ne^'u lua^.t le^. la`m kho' kha(n ca'c small
business owners nhie^`u qua' thi` ba('t buo^.c ho. se~ pha?i ti`m
ca'ch gian la^.n thue^' va` ddu't lo't va^.y tho^i. -- Co' the^? ddu*a
xu*' Mi~ na`y tha`nh xu*' Trung Hoa muo^n thuo*?....
(Cu~ng la` mo^.t bu*o*'c tie^'n nguy hie^?m trong su*. thay ddo^?i
chu*' kho^ng pha/i la` kho^ng)
;-))))
ww
> Yeah, tui kho^ng theo do~i vu. heo ke na`y la('m. Nhu*ng ddoa'n
> ra(`ng se~ co' nhie^`u tro*? nga.i.
>
> Small business owners kie^'m tie^`n dde^? tra? lu*o*ng, minimum wages
> tho^i, cho nha^n vie^n co`n kho' kha(n nu*~a la` ba^y gio*` ddo`i ho.
> pha?i mua ba?o hie^?m heo-ke cho toa`n the^? nha^n vie^n, va^n va^n...
>
> Va^'n dde^` dda^`u tie^n ba^y gio*` cho nhie^`u ngu*o*`i va^~n la`
> chuye^.n Tie^`n DDa^u ???
>
> :-))))
most of small businesses are exempt from this requirement!
jupiterean
":))" <benny...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:no7ef51sr3l061jbk...@4ax.com...
>
> (Cu~ng la` mo^.t bu*o*'c tie^'n nguy hie^?m trong su*. thay ddo^?i
> chu*' kho^ng pha/i la` kho^ng)
>
-Du'ng va^.y !
Tui va^~n nghi~ chuye^.n heoke cu?a My~ ca^`n pha?i ca?i ca'ch -de^? cho co'
tinh' nha^n -da.o ho+n . Buo^n ba'n la`m gia`u tre^n chuye^.n su+'c khoe?
ti'nh ma.ng cu?a ngu+o+`i ta thi` cu~ng ca^`n co' ca'i ethical
considerations cho+' kho^ng the^? tham lam qua' -do^. -du+o+.c .
Tuy nhie^n tui nghi~ ky~ thi` tha^'y kho^ng o^?n la('m khi -du+a ra chuye^.n
ca?i ca'ch va`o lu'c na`y, vi` kinh te^' -dang ba^'n loa.n ro^`i ma` bi.
disturbed big time nu+~a thi` ca'i risk bi. ro^'i loa.n the^m la` ra^'t
lo+'n .
:))
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Tui se~ ba^`u phie^'u cho JoJ la`m Senator dde^? quye^'t ddi.nh vu.
heoke na`y tro*? tha`nh dda.o lua^.t, mang la.i su*. an la.c va` co^ng
dda.o cho toa`n da^n...
:-)))))))
Tho^i ba^y gio*` thi` mi`nh ddi uo^'ng mo^.t ly su*~a bo` va` ca ha't
& la`m tho* & hu*o*?ng gio' ma't tra(ng sao cho nga`y cuo^'i tua^`n
nhen.
:-)
JoJo has a wonderful weekend !
tuna
Ca'c o^ng ca'c ba` ba`n ta'n tui tu+'c cu+o+`i, nhu+ng coi la.i thi`
tha^'y
Ta.i sao ma^'y te^n tu` la.i co' thuo^'c ngu+`a H1n1 chi'ch tru+o+'c,
co`n
da^n ngu khu dden pha?i ddi sa('p ha`ng o+? ma^'y counties ma` chi?
1/3
mo+'i co' co+ ho^.i chi'ch ddu+o+.c ?
sa('p ha`ng dda~ la^u, mo?i cha^n lo+~ ddu+'ng ga^`n ma^'y ngu+o+`i
bi. cu'm
ve^` nha` cu~ng bi. cu'm theo la` ... mang ho.a
Ddo^`ng ba`o ddo+.i xem: ne^'u ma` no' Heo Ke ddu+o+.c thu+o+.ng
vie^.n tho^ng qua
thi` cha('c cha('n da^n pha?i mo'c tu'i tra? tie^`n cao ho+n tie^`n
ho. tra? ba^y gio+` (co' no+i
ho. no'i ne^'u muo^'n cover premium nhu+ ba^y gio+`, 1 family pha?i
tra? the^m 10k/year)
Ca'i Bill kho^ng ddu+a ra ro~ ra`ng dde^? mo.i ngu+o+`i bie^'t, cu+'
a^?n khu'c, muo^'n public
bo? phie^'u ma` kho^ng cho public nghie^n cu+'u, ba`n ta'n dde^? mo.i
ngu+o+`i ca^n nha('c va`
bie^'t ro~ la` damage pha?i ddo'ng la` bao nhie^u ?
Ma^'y ngu+o+`i ddi mua nha`, mu+o+.n loan co' ai cu+' nha('m ma('t
va`o ky', mie^~n la` no down,
nhu+ng kho^ng bie^'t nha` bank no' "cha(.t" hay cu+'a co^? ma^'y
pha^`n tra(m tie^`n lo+`i . DDo' la`
ddie^`u muo^'n no'i ra. what's the damage for each person/family ... Cu
+' hu` lu`a thi` ai cu~ng no'i ddu+o+.c. Oh! yeah it's better, it
changes but in what context ? Ai cu~ng muo^'n thay ddo^?i, nhu+ng
pha?i thay ddo^?i better, cho mo.i ngu+o+`i nhie^`u options. Kho^ng ba
('t buo^.c, ddo^.c ddoa'n pha?i co^ng nha^.n chi'nh phu? heo Ke ma`
kho^ng co' su+. lu+.a cho.n. Co' ca.nh tranh giu+~a ca'c ca' nha^n
"heo ke" thi` bo.n chi'nh phu? mo+'i co' ca?i tie^'n co`n kho^ng thi`
no' cu+' u` li` (cha'n nhu+ ca'c ha~ng cu~ government, kho^ng nhu+
ca'c ha~ng privates, ho. co' ca.nh tranh, ca?i thie^.n, bonus hay ca'c
chu+o+ng tri`nh cho ca'c nha^n vie^n la`m vie^.c gio?i ...
tuna,
==============
:))
ma^'y ngu*o*`i VN chuye^n mo^n ddi lu*`a dda?o, la`m gia^'y to*`
income gia? va` buo^n ba'n nha` cu*?a ddo' nhen.
Hi' hi hi hih hi hi :-))
Lu'c na`y mu*o*.n tie^`n hong de^~ dda^u. Chi'nh phu? co`n ddang ke^u
go.i nha` banks no*'i no*'i loan ra dde^? kinh te^' co' co* ho^.i
phu.c ho^`i ddo' ma`.
tuna
Que^n post ca'i link, vi` co' ngu+o+`i se~ ho?i va(.n tui
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,566843,00.html
> ...
>
> read more »
:))
>hehehe
>Que^n post ca'i link, vi` co' ngu+o+`i se~ ho?i va(.n tui
>
>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,566843,00.html
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Chi? co' tie^?u bang Massachussetts quye^'t ddi.nh chi'ch ngu*`a H1N1
cho tu` nha^n tru*o*'c co^ng chu'ng nhu* va^.y tho^i ma`.
Anyway, con ni't, phu. nu*~a ddang mang ba^`u, y ta', ba'c si~ vi`
pha?i ddu*o*ng dda^`u vo*'i be^nh nha^n thi` u*u tie^n.
Co`n co*~ nhu* da^n SCV no*i dda^y thi` cha('c kho^ng so*. H1N1 dda^u.
Chi'ch ngu*`a ca?m cu'm thu*o*`ng la` qua' shoang ro^`i ne` !
;-))))
nttn
hmm ... nha` Nga co' 2 ngu+o+`i chi'ch ngu+`a ca'i H1N1 gu`i ... vi`
trong ca'i high priority list ...
ro^`i next on the list se~ la` Nga ...
nhu+ng co' the^? ca? nha` Nga cu~ng dda~ bi. ca'i flu na`y tha'ng tru+o
+'c ro^`i :)))
nn
jupiterean
> Tui se~ ba^`u phie^'u cho JoJ la`m Senator dde^? quye^'t ddi.nh vu.
> heoke na`y tro*? tha`nh dda.o lua^.t, mang la.i su*. an la.c va` co^ng
> dda.o cho toa`n da^n...
>
Kakakaka muo^'n ba^`u cho tui thi` tru+o+'c he^'t tui pha?i u+'ng cu+? cho+'
?
I am and always will be a distant observer, watching the earthly world from
my base in space. I can see everything but don't allow anyone to see me
:-))))))
nttn
> ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
i' ... va^.y tru+o+'c gio+` chat vo+'i hologram cu?a JoJ tho^i ho
+? ????
no wonder .... !!!
:))))
nn
Dr. Tri
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:08:28 -0800 (PST), Mai Dao <maida...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Theo Tui thi` ma^'y ca'i kha'c bie^.t chi'nh no' go^`n:
>
> >- Pha.t $ va` bo? tu` up to 5 na(m nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kho^ng thi ha`nh
> >bo^?n pha^.n mua|cung ca^'p health insurance cho mi`nh|employee ma`
> >cu~ng kho^ng chi.u no^.p pha.t. Ca'i na`y du`ng dde^? nga(n cha(.n nhu
> >+~ng ngu+o+`i nhu+ Mr Tuna tha` no^.p pha.t chu+' kho^ng mua health
> >insurance vi` se~ bi. ba('t bo? bo't. HeHe ... Nhu+ng Tui tha^'y ca'i
> >na`y tu+'c cu+`, vi` nha` tu` ba^y gio+` co`n pha?i tha? bo+'i to^.i
> >pha.m ra vi` kho^ng co' nga^n sa'ch, la^'y $ dda^u dde^? nuo^i tu` ...
> >kho^ng mua health insurance.
>
.> Yeah, tui kho^ng theo do~i vu. heo ke na`y la('m. Nhu*ng ddoa'n
.> ra(`ng se~ co' nhie^`u tro*? nga.i.
>
> Small business owners kie^'m tie^`n dde^? tra? lu*o*ng, minimum wages
> tho^i, cho nha^n vie^n co`n kho' kha(n nu*~a la` ba^y gio*` ddo`i ho.
> pha?i mua ba?o hie^?m heo-ke cho toa`n the^? nha^n vie^n, va^n va^n...
>
> Va^'n dde^` dda^`u tie^n ba^y gio*` cho nhie^`u ngu*o*`i va^~n la`
> chuye^.n Tie^`n DDa^u ???
>
> :-))))
Yeah, ni' thuye^'t thi` ngo`n na`nh va` gia`u nghe`o gi` cu~ng co'
ca'c packages phu` ho*.p nhu*ng ca^u
ho?i la` "Phu` ho*.p ra sao" va` "Gia' ca? ra sao" cho*' no'i kho*i
kho*i ro^`i khi go.i Emergency vo^ nha`
thuo*ng thi` Ambulance tha^'y be^.nh nho*n co' carry ca'i public
option thi` Ambulance gia? bo^. hu* xe
<QUOTE: From: Red Hot Pepper <redhotpep...@yooha.com>
<Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:49:20 -0500
<Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 6:49 am
<Subject: Cao says he put his district's needs over his party's wishes
<Cao says he put his district's needs over his party's wishes
<http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/08/cao-says-he-put-his-
d...
<Washington (CNN) - Rep. Anh "Joseph" Cao said Sunday he put the needs
of
<his district over the desire of his party in being the lone House
<Republican to vote for a sweeping overhaul of the nation's health
care
<system.
He is a kind of person with reallistic soul, ba^'t ke^? me`o tra('ng
hay dden me`o na`o
ga`o to ca('n ba.o la` thi.t pha?i dai se~ ddo good job :)
Ddu'ng the^', local la` best va` thu*.c te^' .
Nghe noa'i Mr. Cao la` TCG, coi chu*`ng phe L3SG mang anh Boo de Leo
ra thui cho^'ng la.i thi` bo? co*m ro^`i co`n phe^ pha'n the^m
la` Mr. Cao chi? dda'ng la`m City Council :)))))))))) kakakakak
tuna
Theo tui tha^'y thi` tua^`n tru+o+'c LNP va` Anh De Boo tranh lua^.n
thi` cu~ng ddu? cho ca? la`ng nu+o+'c SCV bi. H1N1 ro^`i. Ne^'u ma`
no' truye^`n qua google thi` da^n so^' ma('c tu+` scv cu~ng lo+'n
dda :-)))
hah ahhahah
tuna,
tuna
hah ahahhaha
u cracked me up !
yeah! da^n My~ pha?i ddo`i ho?i tuye^n bo^' ro~ ra`ng. Kho^ng thi` no'
pass xong ro^`i
thi` nhu+ tho`ng lo.ng sie^'t va`o co^?
Ambulance kho^ng to+'i vi` qua' ba^.n, ba'c si~ thi` chi? co' 5 phu't
cho mo^~i be^.nh nha^n thay vi` 1/2 gio+`, muo^'n ho?i gi` thi` ho?i
nhu+ ba^y gio+`. Ba'c si~ se~ kho^ng ta^.n ta^m ba`y ve~ la^'y test
na`o cho to^'t ho+n dde^? ti`m be^.nh, vi` la`m nhu+ va^.y chi'nh phu?
se~ "pha.t" la.i ba'c si~ ne^n ba'c si~ bie^'t ma` dda`nh nga^.m
mie^.ng (no motivations)
tuna,
jupiterean
"nttn" <nttn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3da74bee-4d1d-40b1...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
i' ... va^.y tru+o+'c gio+` chat vo+'i hologram cu?a JoJ tho^i ho
+? ????
no wonder .... !!!
-----------------------------
no wonder what? let's hear it :-))
Red Hot Pepper
tin na`y vu+`a thie^'u vu+`a ...du+
1. vaccines will go to correctional facilities the second week of
November for prison *health care workers* and high risk prisoners
...those in high-risk groups, such as AIDS patients or the aged [in
massachusetts]
ba'c ddo.c thie^'u ma^'y chu+~ "health care workers" va` du+ ma^'y chu+~
"1/3 da^n ngu khu dden..."
2. Offenders who aren't in any high-risk category will be last in line
for the voluntary vaccinations
nguye^n ca^u na`y ba'c ddo.c thie^'u ma^'t cu?a ngu+o+`i ta
3. The vaccinations are set to be available by Nov. 27 to members the
general public who have no special risk factors.
dda^y cha('c la` dda'm da^n ngu khu dden ma` ba'c no'i dde^'n.
tuna wrote:
>> Ca'i Bill kho^ng ddu+a ra ro~ ra`ng dde^? mo.i ngu+o+`i bie^'t, cu+'
>> a^?n khu'c, muo^'n public
>> bo? phie^'u ma` kho^ng cho public nghie^n cu+'u, ba`n ta'n dde^? mo.i
co' bao gio+` quo^'c ho^.i hoa ky` muo^'n public bo? phie^'u cho ca'i
bill na`y dda^u. ho. quye^'t ddi.nh thay cho public. that's how this
system works ...since the beginning.
>> pha?i thay ddo^?i better, cho mo.i ngu+o+`i nhie^`u options. Kho^ng ba
>> ('t buo^.c, ddo^.c ddoa'n pha?i co^ng nha^.n chi'nh phu? heo Ke ma`
>> kho^ng co' su+. lu+.a cho.n. Co' ca.nh tranh giu+~a ca'c ca' nha^n
>> "heo ke" thi` bo.n chi'nh phu? mo+'i co' ca?i tie^'n co`n kho^ng thi`
ba'c tuna cha('c kho^ng hie^?u ro~ vu. heo ke na`y. ma^'y ca'i
proprosed reforms dda^u co' ca'i na`o "ddo^.c ddoa'n" ba('t pha?i co^ng
nha^.n chi'nh phu? heo ke (public option) ma` kho^ng co' su+. lu+.a
cho.n. hai nu+~a la` co' ca'i public option, co' ca.nh tranh thi` ma^'y
ha~ng ba?o hie^?m tu+ nha^n mo+'i bo+'t bo'p co^? da^n chu'ng, mo+'i
ca?i tie^'n. it's not the other way around like you said.
huongxuan
hx hie^?u 1 ti' ni. the^m chi. Mai and ta^'t ca? trong ca'i thread
na`y...
Tough!!! Sounds good but...tough!!!!
[sigh]..Tough!!!!
huongxuan_______
On Nov 8, 9:23 am, Red Hot Pepper <redhotpep...@yooha.com> wrote:
> chi. hu+o+ng xua^n,
>
> not many people has a complete understanding of the proposed health care
> reform. but in general:
>
> http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AHCAA-REFORMM...
>
> current health care system
>
> 1. you can be denied coverage
> 2. your insurers can cap your coverage or drop you if you get into a
> major health problem.
> 3. if they don't cap or drop you, they can increase your premium to the
> point of driving many people to bankruptcy.
> 4. monopoly by private insurers create huge profits for big corporations
> at the expenses of poor and sick people.
>
> proposed reformed health care system
>
> 1. everyone is covered. employers are expected to pay up to 76% (or
> something like that) of your policy. if your income level is below a
> certain point or if you are unemployed, you get subsidized.
> 2. coverage can’t be capped or dropped when you get sick
> >> "When that was worked out … I called the White House and said I could
> >> possibly support the bill," said Cao, adding he discussed getting
> >> continued help for his district as it seeks to fully recover from the
> >> impact of Hurricane Katrina.
>
> >> Asked about the reaction of fellow Republicans to his vote, Cao said the
> >> party's leaders "respect my decision, and I respect theirs."
>
> >> "To tell you the truth, neither one of us really knows what is the right
> >> decision," he said of the complex health care bill, citing differing
> >> reports and differing studies on its impact. "Ultimately, we have to
> >> make that leap of faith."
>
> >> The bill's approval by the House late Saturday night marked a major step
> >> for Obama's top domestic priority. If the Senate now passes its own
> >> version, the two bills would be merged, and the final version would
> >> require approval from each chamber before being sent to the president
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[2Le]
Tu+` be^n ngoa`i nhi`n do^ ai cu~ng tha^'y priority #1 cu?a
heoke reform My~ la` ddie^`u chi?nh la.i gia' ca? chi phi'
trong nga`nh medical services. Theo tho^'ng ke^ o+? xu+' My~
mo^~i dda^`u nguo+`i to^'n XA^'P HAI la^`n ca'c xu+' kha'c.
Chuye^.n na`y mo^.t la` phi ly' vi` da^n My~ dda^u co' so^'ng
la^u so^'ng kho?e ho+n da^n ca'c xu+' ta^n tie^'n kha'c, hai
la` la`m nguye^n he^. tho^'ng unaffordable, chi'nh phu? kho^ng
kham no^?i lo cho nguo+`i nghe`o nguo+`i tha^'t nghie^.p.
Co' dza^.y tho^i ma` ca'c o^ng lo+'n ba` lo+'n cu?a xu+' My~
ho^?ng chi.u nhi`n nha^.n
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huongxuan
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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"[2Le]" <sir...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Tu+` be^n ngoa`i nhi`n do^ ai cu~ng tha^'y priority #1 cu?a
heoke reform My~ la` ddie^`u chi?nh la.i gia' ca? chi phi'
trong nga`nh medical services. Theo tho^'ng ke^ o+? xu+' My~
mo^~i dda^`u nguo+`i to^'n XA^'P HAI la^`n ca'c xu+' kha'c.
Chuye^.n na`y mo^.t la` phi ly' vi` da^n My~ dda^u co' so^'ng
la^u so^'ng kho?e ho+n da^n ca'c xu+' ta^n tie^'n kha'c, hai
la` la`m nguye^n he^. tho^'ng unaffordable, chi'nh phu? kho^ng
kham no^?i lo cho nguo+`i nghe`o nguo+`i tha^'t nghie^.p.
Co' dza^.y tho^i ma` ca'c o^ng lo+'n ba` lo+'n cu?a xu+' My~
ho^?ng chi.u nhi`n nha^.n
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-Du'ng va^.y SirLe' . Gia' heoke o+? My~ qua' cao, ne^'u co' job to^'t nhu+
chi. MD thi` -do+~ vi` cty tra? ga^`n he^'t, cho+' ne^'u job kho^ng to^'t
nhu+ job o+? WalMart hay la` self-employed thi` kho^ng tra? no^?i . Ca'i
xu+' tu+. ha`o la` va(n minh nhu+'t nhi` the^' gio+'i ma` heoke cho da^n
chu'ng unaffordable thi` thie^.t la` ridiculous. Nhu+ng thay -do^?i thi`,
nhu+ hx no'i, tough tough tough, ai cu~ng bie^'t vi` sao :-(((
Nhie^`u ngu+o+`i My~ -di ra nu+o+'c kha'c chu+~a bi.nh, vu. na`y tui
co' -do.c mo^.t va`i ba`i pho'ng su+. ro^`i . Tui tha^'y nhie^`u ngu+o+`i
Viet o+? My~ cu~ng o^m tie^`n ve^` VN chu+~a nhu+~ng ca kho^ng qua' kho' .
Mai Dao
Ca'i gio+'i co' $ nhu+ng a(n cho+i tra'c ta'ng, xi` ke ma tu'y, ru+o
+.u che`, tru.y la.c, .... so^'ng hay che^'t gi` thi` cu~ng o^`n a`o ho
+n ngu+o+`i kha'c. DDe^'n lu'c "tha^`y cha.y" thi` ho. cha.y qua nu+o
+'c kha'c dde^? kie^'m phe'p ma`u. Cho+' dda^u co' vi` y khoa o+? ddo'
co' gi` to^'t ho+n o+? My~. Gia'm ddo^'c bi.nh vie^.n ung bu+'u o+?
VN, khi bi. ung thu+ he cha.y qua My~ chu+~a tri.. He dda^u co' qua
U'c cho ga^`n.
JoJ co' ngu+o+`i quen tha^n o+? Canada ddu? dde^? ho. than tho+? cho
nghe kho^ng? Health Insurance o+? Canada kho^ng co' free dda^u a`
nhen. Da^n Tui quen dde^`u pha?i ddo'ng ca? tra(m $/tha'ng vi` ho. ...
co' job. Va` cho+` ddo+.i me^.t xi?u mo^~i la^`n muo^'n la`m MRI, xoi
ruo^.t... DDa~ the^', Sale tax (2 thu+') o+? Canada tre^n 10% (hi`nh
nhu+ 13% tu+` la^u la('m), va` ru+o+.u, beer ma('c ga^`n ga^'p 2 o+?
My~ dde^? support cho ba ca'i health care na`y. Health care o+? Canada
to^'t cho nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kho^ng ddi la`m (vi` free), cho+' so vo+'i
nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co' ddi la`m du` la` Walmart cu~ng va^~n kho^ng ba
(`ng. Ca'i gi` cu~ng co' ca? xa^'u va` to^'t na(`m o+? trong ddo'.
2 ca^u truye^.n du+o+'i dda^y dde^`u mo+'i sa?y ra va`i tha'ng.
1 ngu+o+`i Tui quen o+? Canada bi. ddau nho'i tim. Ngu+o+`i nha` cho+?
vo^ bi.nh vie^.n. he pha?i ma^'t ca? tha'ng ddi vo`ng vo`ng kha'm o+?
Bi.nh vie^.n cho^~ na`y, cho^~ no. va` cho+` ddo+.i thi` mo+'i ddu+o
+.c mo^? tim. Trong khi cho+` ddo+.i, nga`y na`o ngu+o+`i nha` cu~ng tu
+o+?ng la` he co' the^? ddi ngay to^'i ho^m ddo'.
Cha'u cu?a 1 ngu+o+`i Tui quen, ddang la'i xe ddi la`m thi` ddau nho'i
tim be`n la'i xe vo^ emergency room. He ddu+o+.c mo^? tim ngay nga`y
ho^m ddo'.
So far thi` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i gia` Tui kho^ng ke^?, nhu+ng nhu+~ng ngu+o
+`i tre? tre? Tui quen, khi bi. ung thu+, ho. dde^`u ddie^`u tri. ddu+o
+.c, trong khi ngu+o+`i ba.n Tui quen (ho^`i ddo' co' nho+` 2 Le'
kie^'m giu`m) bi. ung thu+ o+? U'c thi` che^'t dda~ ma^'y na(m. Y khoa
o+? U'c to^'t ho+n My~ o+? ca'i gi` ???
Da^n VN la`m restaurant hay nail thu+o+`ng kho^ng mua ba?o hie^?m su
+'c khoe? hoa(.c chi? mua ba?o hie^?m khi pha?i na(`m bi.nh vie^.n du`
ho. co' la` chu? 5, 7 tie^.n nail, hay income va`i chu.c nga`n /
tha'ng. Ho. kho^ng mua dda^u pha?i vi` kho^ng co' tie^`n. Cha(?ng qua
ca'i ti'nh tru`m so`, va` vi` tho'i quen kho^ng mua ba?o hie^?m su'c
khoe? khi so^'ng o+? VN. Ma^'y ngu+o+`i na`y khi bi. bi.nh thi` ve^`
VN tri. cho re?. Cho+' dda^u co' vi` y khoa o+? VN to^'t ho+n.
jupiterean
JoJ no'i la` chi phi' -die^`u tri. o+? ca'c xu+' kha'c no' tha^'p ho+n o+?
My~ nhie^`u ne^n affordable vo+'i nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i income trung bi`nh tro+?
xuo^'ng va` kho^ng -du+o+.c co^ng ty ha~ng xu+o+?ng subsidized, do -do'
mo+'i co' chuye^.n ngu+o+`i My~ -di du li.ch chu+~a be^.nh (ca'c ta.p chi'
Time hay Newsweek -de^`u -da~ vie^'t ve^` hie^.n tu+o+.ng na`y, va` ho. no'i
no' la` growing trend).
Ngoa`i ra chi phi' health care qua' cao cu~ng la` ga'nh na(.ng ra^'t lo+'n
cho ca'c cty.
Cho ne^n ngoai. tru+` mo^.t thie^?u so^' co' special interest thi`
vo+'i -da.i -da so^' ngu+o+`i da^n va` business ca^`n pha?i co' ca'ch gia?m
chi phi' health care cho ga^`n vo+'i nhu+~ng nu+o+'c pha't trie^?n kha'c .
"Mai Dao" <maid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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tuna
> tuna <tu...@nz11.com> wrote:
> > hah ahahhaha
> > u cracked me up !
>
> > yeah! da^n My~ pha?i ddo`i ho?i tuye^n bo^' ro~ ra`ng. Kho^ng thi` no'
> > pass xong ro^`i
> > thi` nhu+ tho`ng lo.ng sie^'t va`o co^?
> > Ambulance kho^ng to+'i vi` qua' ba^.n, ba'c si~ thi` chi? co' 5 phu't
> > cho mo^~i be^.nh nha^n thay vi` 1/2 gio+`, muo^'n ho?i gi` thi` ho?i
> > nhu+ ba^y gio+`. Ba'c si~ se~ kho^ng ta^.n ta^m ba`y ve~ la^'y test
> > na`o cho to^'t ho+n dde^? ti`m be^.nh, vi` la`m nhu+ va^.y chi'nh phu?
> > se~ "pha.t" la.i ba'c si~ ne^n ba'c si~ bie^'t ma` dda`nh nga^.m
> > mie^.ng (no motivations)
>
> > tuna,
>
> dda.i hi.p hay sao ma` a(n no'i co' ve? nhu my` khie^m to^'n the^'.
>
> Con ba` no', coi chu+`ng hu` thie^n ha. tie^'t ro^`i dduo^i mi`nh la.i
> cu.p me. no' vo^ trong ru.m thi` coi ky` la('m.
Tha(`ng gia` ddo+'p pha^n Hu Ke hu` ma` ai so+.
DDi chi'ch H1N1 chu+a hay la` dde^? cho no' ma('c ro^`i ddi theo ba'c
ho^` luo^n
M/K tha^'y message cu?a HuKe nhu+ to+` gia^'y chu`i ddi't
tuna
> > >> ('t buo^.c, ddo^.c ddoa'n pha?i co^ng nha^.n chi'nh phu? heo Ke ma`
> > >> kho^ng co' su+. lu+.a cho.n. Co' ca.nh tranh giu+~a ca'c ca' nha^n
> > >> "heo ke" thi` bo.n chi'nh phu? mo+'i co' ca?i tie^'n co`n kho^ng thi`
>
> > ba'c tuna cha('c kho^ng hie^?u ro~ vu. heo ke na`y. ma^'y ca'i
> > proprosed reforms dda^u co' ca'i na`o "ddo^.c ddoa'n" ba('t pha?i co^ng
> > nha^.n chi'nh phu? heo ke (public option) ma` kho^ng co' su+. lu+.a
> > cho.n. hai nu+~a la` co' ca'i public option, co' ca.nh tranh thi` ma^'y
> > ha~ng ba?o hie^?m tu+ nha^n mo+'i bo+'t bo'p co^? da^n chu'ng, mo+'i
> > ca?i tie^'n. it's not the other way around like you said.
>
> "Ma`i Dao" va` ngu+o+`i ti`nh la` "luo^.c su+ qua('c dda.i hi.p" ro^`i mang
> ba'o vo^ dda^y bo? dde^? bi.p ddo+`i.
Tha(`ng gia` Hu Ke o+i . Ma`y qua' tie^?u nha^n
Tao dda~ ba?o la` tre^n SCV na`y kho^ng co' ai ho^'i thu'c ba('t
buo^.c tao la`m gi` he^'t
Ma` tao cu~ng dde^'ch co' ca^`n ca^'u ke^'t vo+'i ai dde^? hu` ai
he^'t. Ma`y cu+' ddi theo
ddi't ngu+o+`i ta ma` ddo`i hu+?i.
Qua' thu'i hoa('c
cha^'m he^'t
[2Le]
> trong khi ngu+o+`i ba.n Tui quen (ho^`i ddo' co' nho+` 2 Le'
> kie^'m giu`m) bi. ung thu+ o+? U'c thi` che^'t dda~ ma^'y na(m.
> Y khoa o+? U'c to^'t ho+n My~ o+? ca'i gi` ???
Tui kho^ng he^` ta'n duo+ng y khoa o+? U'c to^'t ho+n o+?
My~. Y' tui no'i la` y khoa o+? My~ kho^ng co' to^'t vuo+.t bu+.c
ho+n ca'c xu+' (first-world) kha'c, nhu+ng tie^`n ba.c thi` cha(.t
ho+n vuo+.t bu+.c; that's the key point.
-Dem mo^.t va`i ca ra ke^? thi` cu~ng co' the^? lu.m dduo+.c
va`i ca pha?n chu+'ng. No'i chung ne^n du+.a vo^ tho^'ng ke^.
Y khoa My~ kho^ng to^'t ho+n vuo+.t bu+.c vi` so tuo^?i tho.
da^n so^', infant fatality rates etc... My~ kho^ng tro^.i ho+n ma`
nhie^`u khi co`n thua ma^'y xu+' kia nu+~a a' ...
Mai Dao
> JoJ kho^ng co' no'i y khoa My~ kho^ng to^'t.
>
> JoJ no'i la` chi phi' -die^`u tri. o+? ca'c xu+' kha'c no' tha^'p ho+n o+?
> My~ nhie^`u ne^n affordable vo+'i nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i income trung bi`nh tro+?
> xuo^'ng va` kho^ng -du+o+.c co^ng ty ha~ng xu+o+?ng subsidized, do -do'
> mo+'i co' chuye^.n ngu+o+`i My~ -di du li.ch chu+~a be^.nh (ca'c ta.p chi'
> Time hay Newsweek -de^`u -da~ vie^'t ve^` hie^.n tu+o+.ng na`y, va` ho. no'i
> no' la` growing trend).
>
> Ngoa`i ra chi phi' health care qua' cao cu~ng la` ga'nh na(.ng ra^'t lo+'n
> cho ca'c cty.
>
> Cho ne^n ngoai. tru+` mo^.t thie^?u so^' co' special interest thi`
> vo+'i -da.i -da so^' ngu+o+`i da^n va` business ca^`n pha?i co' ca'ch gia?m
> chi phi' health care cho ga^`n vo+'i nhu+~ng nu+o+'c pha't trie^?n kha'c .
>
Tui kho^ng ddo^`ng y' vo+'i ca'i phrase "dda.i dda so^' ngu+o+`i
da^n". Vi` da^n co' medicaid dda~ chie^'m 1 so^' kha' lo+'n ro^`i, va`
da^n ddi la`m thi` dda.i dda so^' OK vo+'i ca'i health care system o+?
My~. Ho^`i ba` Chi. Tui mo+'i qua My~, ddi la`m job lao ddo^.ng. Lu+o
+ng tha^'p dde^'n ddo^. thue^' kho^ng pha?i ddo'ng ma` ddu+o+.c cho
the^m (tha^.m chi' tha(`ng con lu'c du+o+'i 18 tuo^?i co`n ddu+o+.c
Medicaid), nhu+ng Health care cu?a ba? OK. Ba? ddo'ng the^m va`i chu.c
mo^~i tha'ng cho ca'i health care insurance. DDo'ng 15$ khi ddi BV hay
kha'm BS. 15$ khi ddi la`m Mamogram, 15$ ddo^`ng khi mua thuo^'c. Ra
(ng ma('t thi` nhie^`u ho+n, nhu+ng kho^ng the^? go.i la` not
affordable. ba ca'i vie^.c na`y ba` chi. Tui ba? la`m kho^ng ho+n 10
la^`n trong 5, 6 na(m. Tui chu+a tha^'y ai ddi la`m cho nha` nu+o+'c
hay ha~ng su+o+?ng ma` tuye^n bo^' la` health insurance cu?a ho. not
affordable.
DDa.i dda so^' da^n thu+.c su+. kho^ng afford no^?i health insurance
la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddang co' su+'c lao ddo^.ng nhu+ng kho^ng co'
job, hoa(.c illegal imigrants. Tui kho^ng bie^'t da^n la`m farm ho.
mua health insurance nhu+ the^' na`o. Nhu+ng co^.ng ca? 3 nho'm na`y
la.i kho^ng the^? go.i la` dda.i dda so^'.
Ca('t gia?m chi phi' health care ba(`ng ca'ch pha.t nhu+~ng co^ng ty
mua health insurance to^'t cho nha^n vie^n hay ta(ng thue^' nhu+~ng
co^ng ty a(n ne^n la`m ra theo Tui ra^'t la` bi.nh. No' bi.nh ho+n
thu 13% sale tax nhu+ o+? Canada. Vi` chu? tru+o+ng ddo' la` chu? tru+o
+ng ddem con ga` dde? tru+'ng va`ng ra la`m thi.t. Da(`ng na`o thi` nhu
+~ng ddo^`ng tie^`n thue^' cu~ng xuo^'ng dde^'n gio+'i tie^u thu. Nhu
+ng he^. qua? cu?a vie^.c ta(ng thue^' business chi? la` la`m cho ho.
xua^'t ca?ng bussiness to+'i nhu+~ng cho^~ kha'c nhu+ China. Gio+'i
lao ddo^.ng la.i chi? to^? kho^ng co' vie^.c la`m the^m ma` tho^i.
Mai Dao
>
> - Show quoted text -
Da^n a' cha^u o+? My~, hay o+? U'c, Canada dde^`u tho. ngang ngang nhu
+ nhau. Nhu+ng Canada dda^u co' nhie^`u My~ dden la` ca'i da^n ma`
tuo^?i tho. kho^ng la^'y gi` cao.
:))
wrote:
>DDa.i dda so^' da^n thu+.c su+. kho^ng afford no^?i health insurance
>la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddang co' su+'c lao ddo^.ng nhu+ng kho^ng co'
>job, hoa(.c illegal imigrants. Tui kho^ng bie^'t da^n la`m farm ho.
>mua health insurance nhu+ the^' na`o. Nhu+ng co^.ng ca? 3 nho'm na`y
>la.i kho^ng the^? go.i la` dda.i dda so^'.
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Ho. la` dda.i dda so^' ddo' chi. MaiDao.
Ti'nh la.i thu*? xem !
;-))))
jupiterean
Tui kho^ng ddo^`ng y' vo+'i ca'i phrase "dda.i dda so^' ngu+o+`i
da^n". Vi` da^n co' medicaid dda~ chie^'m 1 so^' kha' lo+'n ro^`i, va`
da^n ddi la`m thi` dda.i dda so^' OK vo+'i ca'i health care system o+?
My~. Ho^`i ba` Chi. Tui mo+'i qua My~, ddi la`m job lao ddo^.ng. Lu+o
+ng tha^'p dde^'n ddo^. thue^' kho^ng pha?i ddo'ng ma` ddu+o+.c cho
the^m (tha^.m chi' tha(`ng con lu'c du+o+'i 18 tuo^?i co`n ddu+o+.c
Medicaid), nhu+ng Health care cu?a ba? OK. Ba? ddo'ng the^m va`i chu.c
mo^~i tha'ng cho ca'i health care insurance. DDo'ng 15$ khi ddi BV hay
kha'm BS. 15$ khi ddi la`m Mamogram, 15$ ddo^`ng khi mua thuo^'c. Ra
(ng ma('t thi` nhie^`u ho+n, nhu+ng kho^ng the^? go.i la` not
affordable. ba ca'i vie^.c na`y ba` chi. Tui ba? la`m kho^ng ho+n 10
la^`n trong 5, 6 na(m. Tui chu+a tha^'y ai ddi la`m cho nha` nu+o+'c
hay ha~ng su+o+?ng ma` tuye^n bo^' la` health insurance cu?a ho. not
affordable.
DDa.i dda so^' da^n thu+.c su+. kho^ng afford no^?i health insurance
la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddang co' su+'c lao ddo^.ng nhu+ng kho^ng co'
job, hoa(.c illegal imigrants. Tui kho^ng bie^'t da^n la`m farm ho.
mua health insurance nhu+ the^' na`o. Nhu+ng co^.ng ca? 3 nho'm na`y
la.i kho^ng the^? go.i la` dda.i dda so^'.
---------------------------------------------------
Chi. que^n ma^'t gio+'i self-employed ro^`i.
Chi. cu~ng que^n ma^'t la` co' insurance to^'t va` kho^ng to^'t. Ra^'t
nhie^`u insurance plan kho^ng cover -du?, ngu+o+`i ta pha?i bo? the^m tie^`n
tu'i ra ra^'t na(.ng, co' ngu+o+`i pha?i pha' sa?n .
Ngoa`i ra gia' health care (ba'c si~, nha` thu+o+ng) tha^.t su+. la` ra^'t
cao nhu+ng ca'c ha~ng xu+o+?ng ga'nh he^'t pha^`n nhie^`u . -Die^`u na`y
ta.o ra ga'nh na(.ng ra^'t lo+'n le~ ra kho^ng ca^`n thie^'t cho ca'c
business.
Mai Dao
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:03:01 -0800 (PST), Mai Dao <maida...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >DDa.i dda so^' da^n thu+.c su+. kho^ng afford no^?i health insurance
> >la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddang co' su+'c lao ddo^.ng nhu+ng kho^ng co'
> >job, hoa(.c illegal imigrants. Tui kho^ng bie^'t da^n la`m farm ho.
> >mua health insurance nhu+ the^' na`o. Nhu+ng co^.ng ca? 3 nho'm na`y
> >la.i kho^ng the^? go.i la` dda.i dda so^'.
>
> Ho. la` dda.i dda so^' ddo' chi. MaiDao.
>
> Ti'nh la.i thu*? xem !
>
> ;-))))
Pooh la`m ti'nh chu+' sao la.i la` Tui.
Da^n My~ du+o+'i 18 tuo^?i free medicaid, da^n tre^n 65 tuo^?i cu~ng
free hay i't ra cu~ng co' cu~ng co' free plan A (hay B gi` ddo')
health insurance luo^n. La`m cho nha` nu+o+'c khi retire thi` co`n ddu
+o+.c nhie^`u ho+n (Tui nghe ho. khoe va^.y chu+' chu+a ti`m hie^?u).
Con so^' trong ddo^. tuo^?i 19-65, dda so^' dde^`u la`m cho nha` nu+o
+'c, hay ddi li'nh, hay co' vie^.c la`m (health insurance OK). Co`n gio
+'i bi.nh ta^.t hay qua' nghe`o co' con nho? cu~ng co' free medicaid.
Da^n trong ddo^. tuo^?i ddi la`m co' vie^.c la`m cho co^ng ty hay nha`
nu+O+'c chie^'m mo^.t ti? le^. kho^ng nho?.
Pooh la`m ti'nh kie^?u O media Tui coi no' dda.i dda so^' nhu+ the^'
na`o.
TrinhQuocThien
Nhu+~ng em chu+a co' ba?o hie^?m thi` chi? co' "essential benefits"
tho^i chu+'
la`m gi` ma` Premium Services nhu+ MaiDao hay nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i bo?
tie^`n ra mua.
Co^ Mai Dao bi. be^.nh thi` nha` thu+o+ng chu+~a tri. thuo^'c TO^'T, MA
('C TIE^`N, cho na(`m nghi? ngo+i thoa?i ma'i (outpatient
services).....
Co`n ng` nghe`o thi` chu+~a qua qui't, thuo^'c re? tie^`n generic
tho^i, mo^? xong la` dduo^?i ve^` nha` lie^`n; co`n la^u mo+'i ddu+o
+.c ba'c sy~ thu+' thie^.t chu+~a tri..
Ke^' hoa.ch cu?a O^BaMa se~ ddu`ng dda'm Physician Assistant (tro+. y)
kha'm be^.nh ke^ toa gio^ng gio^'ng nhu+ ba'c sy~, nhu+ng tra? re?
tie^`n ho+n.
La^u nay, nhie^`u be^.nh nha^n be^.nh nhe. he^`u, tra^`y tru.a so+ so+
cu~ng ddi kha'm ba'c sy~. Ba'c sy~ cu~ng lu+u manh, dda('p 1 ca'i
bandage cu~ng la^'y tie^`n 200-300USD. Nghi~a la` ba'c sy~ gia`nh
vie^.c cu?a y ta', tro+. y. Nha si~ cu~ng va^.y; gia`nh vie^.c cu?a
dental hygienist.
Y ta' ... hie^.n nay se~ ddu+o+.c na^ng ca^'p nhanh cho'ng qua va`i 3
lo+'p training dde^? tha`nh Physician Assistant.
Ro^`i sau ddo', ngo^`i kha'm nha(ng, kha'm nha?m ba xi' ba tu' dde^?
bi.p ddo+`i ! ;-(((((
Anh Tri~ VeeVeo se~ ddu+o+.c ma^'y em P.A. na`y kha'm la.i cu+' tu+o+?
ng la` "ba'c sy~ thu+' thie^.t"! ;-))))))))))))))).
He^. tho^'ng ba'c sy~ hie^.n nay ddang bi. overloaded.
La`m gi` ma` co' thi` gio+` kha'm cho ma^'y chu.c trie^.u ma.ng ngu+o
+`i the^m nu+~a. Ngay ca? kha'm a^?u ta? 5-10 phu't/ng` cu~ng kho^ng
ki.p.
Tie^n ddoa'n: nghe^` Physician Assistant se~ thi.nh trong vo`ng va`i na
(m to+'i.
Ho.c chi? 5 na(m. Lu+o+ng ba('t dda^`u cu~ng kha' 60K-80K.
QT
Dr. Tri
>
> - Show quoted text -
Heoke passed ro^`i, ba` Pelosi ca^`m bu'a dda^.p ca'i cha't, passed.
Cho*` xem co`n nhie^`u hu*'a he.n ma` http://www.medpagetoday.com/16847
House Passes Healthcare Reform
By Emily P. Walker, Washington Correspondent, MedPage Today
Published: November 07, 2009
WASHINGTON -- The House of Representatives voted 220 to 215 to pass
historic healthcare reform legislation late Saturday night, after 11
hours of debate before a packed gallery of spectators.
H.R. 3962 passed by a narrow margin: Democrats needed 218 votes to
pass the bill and wound up with just two more than that, after 39
Democrats jumped ship and voted "Nay." Only one Republican -- Anh
"Joseph" Cao from Louisiana voted for the measure.
Once the vote count hit 218, Democrats cheered loudly. Applause
continued as the final votes trickled in during the few minutes that
remained of the 15 allotted for the vote. When the clock ran down, the
chamber erupted in elated applause, the hugging, kissing, and cheering
abating only for the few minutes it took for Speaker of the House
Nancy Pelosi to declare "The bill is passed!"
The $1.1 trillion bill would expand insurance coverage to an
additional 38 million people over the next decade by requiring that
almost all citizens have insurance and providing subsidies to those
who can't afford it. The measure also contains a public option that
would allow doctors and hospitals to negotiate with the government
over reimbursement rates for treating patients enrolled in the public
plan.
The unusual Saturday session was characterized by hours of
theatrically partisan debate, and crowds of spectators waited hours in
line to get five-minute glimpses of the floor proceedings.
Democrats called attention to the historic nature of the vote.
"Leaders of every party and political philosophy as far back as Teddy
Roosevelt have called for healthcare for the American people," Pelosi
said. "Today the call will be answered."
Republicans repeatedly called the measure a "freedom-killing, job-
killing bill" that would bankrupt the government for future
generations and criminalize people who do not have insurance. Speakers
used a number of props -- including a baby and a pair of handcuffs --
to drive home their points.
The final vote came just minutes after approval of a controversial
abortion amendment. Sponsored by anti-abortion Democrat Bart Stupak of
Michigan and Brad Ellsworth (R-Ind.), the amendment would bar the
government from offering abortion in its public plan, and make it
illegal for private insurers that participate in the exchange from
providing abortion coverage, except in the case of rape, incest or
when the woman's health is in danger.
The amendment passed by a vote of 240 to 194, with support from 64
Democrats and all but one Republican -- John Shadegg of Arizona, who
cast a vote of "present."
A 1977 law, known as the Hyde Amendment, already prevents use of
federal money to fund abortions. Stupak said his amendment simply
applied the Hyde amendment to H.R. 3962, but opponents said it would
go much further. Not only would it mean the new public plan can't pay
for abortions, opponents charged, but none of the private insurance
plans that participate in the exchange could provide abortions either
because government money would pay for the creation of the exchange.
Low- and moderate-income women who receive government subsidies to
purchase health insurance would not have coverage for elective
abortions because they would be required to purchase insurance from
the exchange.
"The amendment has no impact on individuals with a private plan who do
not receive a subsidy," Stupak explained.
Women in the public plan, or who have a plan through the exchange,
could choose to buy a separate abortion-coverage plan using their own
money, which Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois called "a ridiculous and
unworkable approach since no woman plans an unplanned pregnancy."
There was language in H.R. 3962 -- authored by Rep. Lois Capps (D-
Calif.), a nurse -- that specified that if plans in the exchange
wanted to provide abortion coverage, it would have to be funded
through premiums paid by the individual, not government money. That
language was an effort to placate anti-abortion members of Congress,
but they said it didn't go far enough.
Capps spoke out against the Stupak/Pitts amendment.
"It will be the only language in the entire legislation that restricts
coverage of a legal medical procedure," she said.
Stupak maintained that his amendment is just cementing current law.
"I am not writing a new federal abortion policy," he said.
Abortion rights groups like NARAL and Planned Parenthood blasted the
amendment, while the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops
(USCCB) praised it.
The amendment would have to be approved in the Senate, and then
survive conference before it becomes law.
The final version of the House bill lacked a doctor payment fix, but a
separate bill that would replace the sustainable growth rate (SGR)
formula is expected to come to a vote next week.
The bill passed by the House on Saturday would require businesses with
payrolls above $500,000 to offer health insurance to their employees.
huongxuan
> "Mai Dao" <maida...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Self-employed tra? insurance rie^ng va`i tra(m 1 tha'ng la` thu+o
+`ng...co' existing condition thi` insurance kho^ng nha^.n luo^n ne^'u
no' kho^ng ca('t co^? mi`nh ba.c nga`n mo^~i tha'ng.
Nhu+~ng tru+o+`ng ho+.p co' vie^.c la`m nhu+ng kho^ng co' insurance:
- Lu+o+ng tha^'p kho^ng afford tra? insurance premium cu?a ha~ng cho
ca? gia ddi`nh (va`i tra(m dde^'n nga`n/tha'ng)
- Nha^n vie^n part-time kho^ng ddu+o+.c insured bo+?i ha~ng.
- Ha~ng nho? co' du+o+'i 25 nha^n vie^n, insurance ra^'t cao, nha^n
vie^n kho^ng ddu? su+'c tra? premium.
- Ha~ng nho? co' du+o+'i 10 nha^n vie^n thu+o+`ng kho^ng offer
insurance cho nha^n vie^n...cu~ng la.i ta.i dda('t qua'..
....Ke^? ra thi` cha('c co`n nu+~a heh...
Da^n at the borderline of poverty cu~ng kho^? the^ tha?m...kho^ng xin
ddu+o+.c medical assistance ma` tie^`n insurance thi` na(.ng qua' ..
tra? bill ddi cho+. feed gia ddi`nh tru+o+'c...the rest..."Ca^`u tro
+`i pha^.t cho bo.n nho? ddu+`ng bi.nh"....Co' ra^'t nhie^`u hoa`n ca?
nh trong ddo+`i ma` kho^ng the^? va`i ca^u dde^? ke^'t go.n
categorizing ddu+o+.c...
hx tu+`ng la`m cho public sector ne^n no'i la` giao cho government
la`m thi` hx tha^'y cu~ng nghi la('m...cha(?ng bie^'t la`m to+'i dda^u
hay la.i lo+.n la`nh tha`nh lo+.n toi thi` cu~ng che^'t.:-)
huongxuan________
jupiterean
Rie^ng chuye^.n giao cho gov thi` no' chi? la` 1 option tho^i, nghi~a la` ai
kho^ng mua no^?i private insurance thi` co`n co' gov -do+~ cho, i't nhie^`u
gi` thi` cu~ng co' .
JoJ kho^ng ro~ chi tie^'t ca'c plan -dang ba`n lua^.n, nhu+ng -die^`u ro~
ra`ng la` he^. tho^'ng health care hie^.n nay na^ng gia' le^n qua' cao,
ca^`n pha?i -die^`u chi?nh la.i .
JoJ co' -do.c tha^'y no'i phia' ba'c si~ cu~ng bi. insurance industry ha`nh
ha. me^.t nghi~ -do' hx. Co' mo^.t doctor network quye^'t -di.nh de.p kho^ng
cho+i vo+'i insurance va` chi? nha^.n be^.nh nha^n kho^ng co' insurance,
gia' ca? ho. la^'y tha^'p ho+n vi` kho^ng pha?i ma^'t co^ng deal vo+'i
insurance nu+~a.
No'i chung mi`nh may ma('n -du+o+.c -da^`y -du? thi` cu~ng pha?i nghi~ cho
nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ke'm may ma('n ho+n.
"huongxuan" <pentago...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4834bdd6-02fc-4c63...@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
ww
> +ng tha^'p dde^'n ddo^. thue^' kho^ng pha?i ddo'ng ma` ddu+o+.c cho
> the^m (tha^.m chi' tha(`ng con lu'c du+o+'i 18 tuo^?i co`n ddu+o+.c
> Medicaid),
Yeah! Gia -di`nh la~nh -da~ ro^`i ba^y gio*` che^ ma^'y ca'i
government programs -do', coi thu*o*`ng khi de^? va` o/ muo^'n giu'p
ngu*o*`i nghe`o! :o)
huongxuan
bie^'t bao gia ddi`nh lo la('ng vi` kho^ng insurance...
Vie^.c chi?nh ddo^'n health care system la` chuye^.n ne^n la`m. Chi?
co' ddie^`u hx kho^ng bie^'t sao hx ddo.c dda^u ddo' no'i ca'i gi`
cost cho reform na`y cu~ng ca^`n ca? trillion dollars...de^~ so+.
va^.y huh????
Good night JoJ.
huongxuan_______
>
> Rie^ng chuye^.n giao cho gov thi` no' chi? la` 1 option tho^i, nghi~a la` ai
> kho^ng mua no^?i private insurance thi` co`n co' gov -do+~ cho, i't nhie^`u
> gi` thi` cu~ng co' .
>
> JoJ kho^ng ro~ chi tie^'t ca'c plan -dang ba`n lua^.n, nhu+ng -die^`u ro~
> ra`ng la` he^. tho^'ng health care hie^.n nay na^ng gia' le^n qua' cao,
> ca^`n pha?i -die^`u chi?nh la.i .
>
> JoJ co' -do.c tha^'y no'i phia' ba'c si~ cu~ng bi. insurance industry ha`nh
> ha. me^.t nghi~ -do' hx. Co' mo^.t doctor network quye^'t -di.nh de.p kho^ng
> cho+i vo+'i insurance va` chi? nha^.n be^.nh nha^n kho^ng co' insurance,
> gia' ca? ho. la^'y tha^'p ho+n vi` kho^ng pha?i ma^'t co^ng deal vo+'i
> insurance nu+~a.
>
> No'i chung mi`nh may ma('n -du+o+.c -da^`y -du? thi` cu~ng pha?i nghi~ cho
> nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ke'm may ma('n ho+n.
>
> "huongxuan" <pentagon.orc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
TrinhQuocThien
> co' gi` la., co`n thue^' kho^ng ddo'ng thi` chi? co' va`i loa.i
>
> - La^.u thue^'
>
> - Hoa(.c ba'n ddo^` quo^'c ca^'m nhu+ ca^`n sa, a' phie^.n
>
> - Hoa(.c ma~i da^m kho^ng gia^'y phe'p
>
> Co`n ngoa`i ra thi` cho du` vo^ gia cu+ khi mua co' thue^' thi` va^~N
> pha?i tra? thue^'.
Te^n Whocares na`y mo+'i qua My~ ne^n thu+o+`ng hay "be.t ca` na".
Income Tax-Thue^' Thu Nha^.p la` ti'nh theo lu+o+ng.
Co`n Sale Tax la` thue^' ba'n ha`ng ti'nh theo gia' tri. mo'n ha`ng.
Mai Dao no'i ve^` lu+o+ng tha^'p ne^n co' ngu+o+`i kho^ng pha?i ddo'ng
thue^' thu nha^.p (e.g. exemption).
We'we' no'i ddu'ng 50% ma` cu~ng sai 50%.
FYI, Nhie^`u ngu+o+`i Vie^.t Nam immigrants kho^ng ddu+o+.c hu+o+?ng
gi` tu+` ca'c fed/state programs.
Vi' du.: ng` ba?o la~nh (sponsor) co' income kha', ne^n tha^n nha^n cu?
a ho. khi qua My~ thi` kho^ng ddu+o+.c chi'nh phu? HK giu'p gi` ca?.
Ho. ddi theo die^.n immigrants-di da^n, fiance', vo+. cho^`ng.... Gia
ddi`nh bi. ba('t ky' gia^'y tu+. ba?o la~nh, kho^ng nha^.n tro+. ca^'p
chi'nh phu?.
Cho ne^n we' we' no'i kho+i kho+i, generalize ro^`i ba?o ta^'t ca? ngu
+o+`i Vie^.t Ha?i Ngoa.i pha?i tra? o+n ma^'y ca'i fed/state programs
giu'p refugees, thi` qua' sai va` qua' kho^i ha`i !.
Ddu+o+ng nhie^n mo^.t so^' refugees thi` cu~ng ne^n bo? tie^`n giu'p
nhu+~ng quy~ cu+'u tro+. dda~ tu+`ng cu+u mang mi`nh!
Vi.t Nam hay co' ti'nh a(n quy.t !
ne^n we' we' ... le^n tie^'ng cu~ng ddu'ng ! ;-(((((
QT
:))
<trinhqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>We'we' no'i ddu'ng 50% ma` cu~ng sai 50%.
>
>FYI, Nhie^`u ngu+o+`i Vie^.t Nam immigrants kho^ng ddu+o+.c hu+o+?ng
>gi` tu+` ca'c fed/state programs.
>
>Vi' du.: ng` ba?o la~nh (sponsor) co' income kha', ne^n tha^n nha^n cu?
>a ho. khi qua My~ thi` kho^ng ddu+o+.c chi'nh phu? HK giu'p gi` ca?.
>Ho. ddi theo die^.n immigrants-di da^n, fiance', vo+. cho^`ng.... Gia
>ddi`nh bi. ba('t ky' gia^'y tu+. ba?o la~nh, kho^ng nha^.n tro+. ca^'p
>chi'nh phu?.
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Pha^`n ddo^ng la` ho. qua Mi~ vo*'i nguye^n mo^.t gia ddi`nh.
Tuy kho^ng ddu*o*.c tru*.c tie^'p hu*o*?ng tro*. ca^'p an sinh xa~
ho^.i. Nhu*ng khi con em cu?a gia ddi`nh ddo' to*'i tru*o*`ng ddi ho.c
thi` va^~n ddu*o*.c du`ng lunch free vi` income i't...
Ngoa`i ra co`n co' nhu*~ng c/t xa~ ho^.i kha'c nu*~a nhu* ho.c a(n
va(n chu`a hay nha` tho*`... :-)))
Hua^'n nghe^., ho.c la`m neo hay la`m ta`i tu*? ddo'ng phim xxx cu?a
ba'c Hotac va^n va^n...
Chu*a co' medicxaid, medicare thi` lu'c na`o cu~ng co' quye^`n xe^'p
ha`ng o*? ca'c nha` thu*o*ng chu*~a mie^~n phi'.
(Ho*i cu*.c kho^? chu't tho^i, va` nhie^`u khi ba'c si~ la` sinh vie^n
sa('p ra tru*o*`ng ddang thu*.c ta^.p...ne^n chi'ch ddi't thi` ho*i
bi. ddau tho^i. Ra'ng xi'u nhe....we're almost done !)
QTTT ddu'ng 50% va` cu~ng sai 50% luo^n ne` !
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))
TrinhQuocThien
bie^'t income i't hay kho^ng i't ?
Nga`y a(n 4 bu+~a: chi? co' free lunch co`n 3 bu+~a kia ca.p dda^'t a
(n ha? ? ;-)))))))))))))))))))))
Tru+o+`ng na`o ma` co' free lunch ? cha me. ddo'ng tie^`n thi` mo+'i
ddu+o+.c a(n.
Co`n sinh vie^n thi` ddo'i da`i ... a(n mi` go'i me^.t xi?u ! ;-((((
based on true stories ! ;-))))))))))))
Da^n dda.o Pha^.t na`o ma` vo^ nha` tho+` ... ho.c Anh Va
(n ? ;-))))))))))))))))
Chu+a ho.c gi` ... thi` dda~ chu+?i nhau o?m to?i ! ;-))))))))))))
QT
On Nov 16, 5:23 am, ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:18:37 -0800 (PST), TrinhQuocThien
>
> <trinhquocth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >We'we' no'i ddu'ng 50% ma` cu~ng sai 50%.
>
> >FYI, Nhie^`u ngu+o+`i Vie^.t Nam immigrants kho^ng ddu+o+.c hu+o+?ng
> >gi` tu+` ca'c fed/state programs.
>
> >Vi' du.: ng` ba?o la~nh (sponsor) co' income kha', ne^n tha^n nha^n cu?
> >a ho. khi qua My~ thi` kho^ng ddu+o+.c chi'nh phu? HK giu'p gi` ca?.
> >Ho. ddi theo die^.n immigrants-di da^n, fiance', vo+. cho^`ng.... Gia
> >ddi`nh bi. ba('t ky' gia^'y tu+. ba?o la~nh, kho^ng nha^.n tro+. ca^'p
> >chi'nh phu?.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mai Dao
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ma^''y Te^n ddo' cha('c so^'ng o+? VN, hay chi? ddo'ng thue^' cho VC
ne^n cha(?ng hie^?u bie^'t gi` ve^` chuye^.n thue^' ma' hay welfare o
+? be^n My~.
Mai Dao
>
>
> >We'we' no'i ddu'ng 50% ma` cu~ng sai 50%.
>
> >FYI, Nhie^`u ngu+o+`i Vie^.t Nam immigrants kho^ng ddu+o+.c hu+o+?ng
> >gi` tu+` ca'c fed/state programs.
>
> >Vi' du.: ng` ba?o la~nh (sponsor) co' income kha', ne^n tha^n nha^n cu?
> >a ho. khi qua My~ thi` kho^ng ddu+o+.c chi'nh phu? HK giu'p gi` ca?.
> >Ho. ddi theo die^.n immigrants-di da^n, fiance', vo+. cho^`ng.... Gia
> >ddi`nh bi. ba('t ky' gia^'y tu+. ba?o la~nh, kho^ng nha^.n tro+. ca^'p
> >chi'nh phu?.
>
> Pha^`n ddo^ng la` ho. qua Mi~ vo*'i nguye^n mo^.t gia ddi`nh.
> Tuy kho^ng ddu*o*.c tru*.c tie^'p hu*o*?ng tro*. ca^'p an sinh xa~
> ho^.i. Nhu*ng khi con em cu?a gia ddi`nh ddo' to*'i tru*o*`ng ddi ho.c
> thi` va^~n ddu*o*.c du`ng lunch free vi` income i't...
>
> Ngoa`i ra co`n co' nhu*~ng c/t xa~ ho^.i kha'c nu*~a nhu* ho.c a(n
> va(n chu`a hay nha` tho*`... :-)))
>
> Hua^'n nghe^., ho.c la`m neo hay la`m ta`i tu*? ddo'ng phim xxx cu?a
> ba'c Hotac va^n va^n...
>
> Chu*a co' medicxaid, medicare thi` lu'c na`o cu~ng co' quye^`n xe^'p
> ha`ng o*? ca'c nha` thu*o*ng chu*~a mie^~n phi'.
>
> (Ho*i cu*.c kho^? chu't tho^i, va` nhie^`u khi ba'c si~ la` sinh vie^n
> sa('p ra tru*o*`ng ddang thu*.c ta^.p...ne^n chi'ch ddi't thi` ho*i
> bi. ddau tho^i. Ra'ng xi'u nhe....we're almost done !)
>
> QTTT ddu'ng 50% va` cu~ng sai 50% luo^n ne` !
>
> :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Pooh suy ba.ng ta ra bu.ng ngu+o+`i. Tha(`ng Cha'u Tui no' chu+a a(n bu
+~a free lunch na`o. No' chi? la`m free volunteer work cho tru+o+`ng
mo^~i bi-weekend tho^i. Sau na`y thi` no' la`m life guard cho ho^` bo
+i, co`n co' lu+o+ng. Ma^'y ngo^'c thi` se~ kho^ng tin. Nhu+ng tha(`ng
Cha'u Tui ngoa`i chuye^.n ho.c gio?i, No' co`n dda.i die^.n cho tru+o
+`ng dde^? ddi thi` ma^'y mo^n sport nhu+ bo+i lo^i, va` dda'nh tenis.
Du` kho^ng ddu+o+.c gia?nh nha^'t, nhu+ng cu~ng ddu+o+.c 1, va`i ca'i
gia?i. Ngu+o+`i VN cu~ng co' ngu+o+`i na`y ngu+o+`i kha'c. Co' ngu+o
+`i co' lo`ng tu+. tro.ng, va` co' ngu+o+`i kho^ng co' lo`ng tu+.
tro.ng. Ca'i ti'nh tham la`m va` ba^`n tie^.n no' khie^'n 1 so^' ngu+o
+`i cho ra(`ng tie^`n cu?a Chi'nh Phu? la` tie^`n chu`a, tie^`n a^m
binh, cu+' vie^.c phung phi'.
Free medicare cho tre? em du+o+'i 18 tuo^?i ne^'u Cha Me. nghe`o la`
chi'nh sa'ch ma` tie^?u bang na`o "hi`nh nhu+" dde^`u co'. Tie^`n ddo'
cu~ng dde^`u do thue^' cu?a nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i nhu+ Tui ddo'ng tho^i.
Ma^'y ddu+'a ngo^'c qua', thi` nghi~ ra(`ng O chi? vie^.c in tie^`n
ro^`i pha't. Lu~ ngo^'c nhu+ va^.y, co^ng ty hay co+ quan na`o ma` mu+o
+'n chu'ng no' cha('c cu~ng kho^ng kha' no^?i. DDa'm ddo' cha('c gio?i
la('m, cu~ng chi? la`m nghe^` ba?o ma^~u ( ... da^~n con ni't ddi i.).
HeHe ...
Ne^n nho+' la` Chi. cu?a Tui, do Tui ba?o la~nh di da^n tu+` U'c qua. O
+? U'c tha(`ng Cha'u Tui ho.c tru+o+`ng tu+, va` la` tru+o+`ng #1 cu?a
tha`nh pho^' no' o+?. Ba` Chi. Tui dde^`u co' ba(`ng dda.i ho.c KH o+?
VN, va` ba(`ng KS Sinh Hoa' o+? U'c. Qua My~, lo+'n tuo^?i, ba(`ng U'c
kho^ng ddu+o+.c nha^.n, ne^n mo+'i pha?i ddi la`m job re? tie^`n. Tui
va^~n la` ngu+o+`i cung ca^'p housing va` utility cho gia ddi`nh ba?.
Ba` chi. Tui cha(?ng xin ddo^`ng tro+. ca^'p na`o.
:))
wrote:
>
>Pooh suy ba.ng ta ra bu.ng ngu+o+`i. Tha(`ng Cha'u Tui no' chu+a a(n bu
>+~a free lunch na`o. No' chi? la`m free volunteer work cho tru+o+`ng
>mo^~i bi-weekend tho^i. Sau na`y thi` no' la`m life guard cho ho^` bo
>+i, co`n co' lu+o+ng. Ma^'y ngo^'c thi` se~ kho^ng tin. Nhu+ng tha(`ng
>Cha'u Tui ngoa`i chuye^.n ho.c gio?i, No' co`n dda.i die^.n cho tru+o
>+`ng dde^? ddi thi` ma^'y mo^n sport nhu+ bo+i lo^i, va` dda'nh tenis.
>Du` kho^ng ddu+o+.c gia?nh nha^'t, nhu+ng cu~ng ddu+o+.c 1, va`i ca'i
>gia?i. Ngu+o+`i VN cu~ng co' ngu+o+`i na`y ngu+o+`i kha'c. Co' ngu+o
>+`i co' lo`ng tu+. tro.ng, va` co' ngu+o+`i kho^ng co' lo`ng tu+.
>tro.ng. Ca'i ti'nh tham la`m va` ba^`n tie^.n no' khie^'n 1 so^' ngu+o
>+`i cho ra(`ng tie^`n cu?a Chi'nh Phu? la` tie^`n chu`a, tie^`n a^m
>binh, cu+' vie^.c phung phi'.
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Nhu*~ng c/t tro*. ca^'p xa~ ho^.i la` to^'t, la` ddu'ng dde^? na^ng
cao ddo*`i so^'ng cu?a ngu*o*`i da^n trong mo^.t xa~ ho^.i ca^'p
tie^'n...
Kho^ng co' gi` la` xa^'u ho^? ca? ne^'u income mi`nh i't va` pha?i
du`ng lunch free cu?a high school. -- Mai mo^'t tha`nh o^ng no. ba`
kia trong xa~ ho^.i thi` nho*' ddo'ng go'p la.i giu'p ke? nghe`o kho'
ho*n mi`nh tho^i. DDa^y la` mo^.t hi`nh thu*'c tu*o*ng te^' la^~n
nhau. ;-)))
Anyway, co^ Ky` Duye^n nghe no'i cu~ng bi. ma^'t nha` ro^`i. Hong
bie^'t Kie^`u Chinh thi` ra sao ??? Nha` tho*`i buo^?i na`y ma`
kho^ng ba'n ddu*o*.c thi` coi chu*`ng ma^'t ddo' nha !
Hay la` MaiDao mua nha` du`m Kieu Chinh ddi va^.y !
:-))))))))
Mai Dao
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:52:56 -0800 (PST), Mai Dao <maida...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Pooh suy ba.ng ta ra bu.ng ngu+o+`i. Tha(`ng Cha'u Tui no' chu+a a(n bu
> >+~a free lunch na`o. No' chi? la`m free volunteer work cho tru+o+`ng
> >mo^~i bi-weekend tho^i. Sau na`y thi` no' la`m life guard cho ho^` bo
> >+i, co`n co' lu+o+ng. Ma^'y ngo^'c thi` se~ kho^ng tin. Nhu+ng tha(`ng
> >Cha'u Tui ngoa`i chuye^.n ho.c gio?i, No' co`n dda.i die^.n cho tru+o
> >+`ng dde^? ddi thi` ma^'y mo^n sport nhu+ bo+i lo^i, va` dda'nh tenis.
> >Du` kho^ng ddu+o+.c gia?nh nha^'t, nhu+ng cu~ng ddu+o+.c 1, va`i ca'i
> >gia?i. Ngu+o+`i VN cu~ng co' ngu+o+`i na`y ngu+o+`i kha'c. Co' ngu+o
> >+`i co' lo`ng tu+. tro.ng, va` co' ngu+o+`i kho^ng co' lo`ng tu+.
> >tro.ng. Ca'i ti'nh tham la`m va` ba^`n tie^.n no' khie^'n 1 so^' ngu+o
> >+`i cho ra(`ng tie^`n cu?a Chi'nh Phu? la` tie^`n chu`a, tie^`n a^m
> >binh, cu+' vie^.c phung phi'.
>
> Nhu*~ng c/t tro*. ca^'p xa~ ho^.i la` to^'t, la` ddu'ng dde^? na^ng
> cao ddo*`i so^'ng cu?a ngu*o*`i da^n trong mo^.t xa~ ho^.i ca^'p
> tie^'n...
>
> Kho^ng co' gi` la` xa^'u ho^? ca? ne^'u income mi`nh i't va` pha?i
> du`ng lunch free cu?a high school. -- Mai mo^'t tha`nh o^ng no. ba`
> kia trong xa~ ho^.i thi` nho*' ddo'ng go'p la.i giu'p ke? nghe`o kho'
> ho*n mi`nh tho^i. DDa^y la` mo^.t hi`nh thu*'c tu*o*ng te^' la^~n
> nhau. ;-)))
>
> Anyway, co^ Ky` Duye^n nghe no'i cu~ng bi. ma^'t nha` ro^`i. Hong
> bie^'t Kie^`u Chinh thi` ra sao ??? Nha` tho*`i buo^?i na`y ma`
> kho^ng ba'n ddu*o*.c thi` coi chu*`ng ma^'t ddo' nha !
>
> Hay la` MaiDao mua nha` du`m Kieu Chinh ddi va^.y !
>
> :-))))))))
Thie^'u tho^'n, thi` ddi xin tro+. ca^'p cha(?ng ai cu+o+`i, nhu+ng
kho^ng thie^'u tho^'n ma` va^~n ma'nh mung dde^? la^'y $ chi'nh phu?
sa`i hoang phi', la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i dda'ng bi. xem thu+o+`ng. Nha` nu
+o+'c he^'t tie^`n, va^~n chu+a chi.u tha('t lu+ng buo^.c bu.ng, co`n
chu+?i bo+'i inh o?i, ddo`i quye^`n lo+.i the^m la` nhu+~ng ... tha
(`ng ngo^'c a(n ha.i. HeHe ...
Co^ KD la`m i't tie^u nhie^`u ... cho sang, kho^ng chi.u dde^? da`nh
thi` ra'ng chi.u.
batuna
tronqua meo dilam itluong deodong dongthue nao conduoc thangmeo bothi
chothemtien connoi khonganduoc buacom freelunch nao. Ditme cothang
vietcongnao chodanno dongnao khong? Nguhon lonmaume maycon phetlac.
Luan Pham
wrote:
>Anyway, co^ Ky` Duye^n nghe no'i cu~ng bi. ma^'t nha` ro^`i. Hong
>bie^'t Kie^`u Chinh thi` ra sao ??? Nha` tho*`i buo^?i na`y ma`
>kho^ng ba'n ddu*o*.c thi` coi chu*`ng ma^'t ddo' nha !
O Michigan Luan thay may nha tho Tin Lanh bi fore closure, va bi nha
bank dem ra dau thau...