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Help the translation please DIEN BIEN PHU
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Samakhi Bopenphakniyom
Sep 28, 2001, 3:41:21 PM9/28/01
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Hello Vietnamese friend,
I have wondering about this, what is meaning for Dien Bien Phu in
Vietnamese language? In Lao we are calling it as Muang Theng or City
up High, City of Heaven. Does it have same meaning in Vietnamese. I
have hoping for the help to translating the three word Dien, Bien, and
Phu.
I have wondering about this, what is meaning for Dien Bien Phu in
Vietnamese language? In Lao we are calling it as Muang Theng or City
up High, City of Heaven. Does it have same meaning in Vietnamese. I
have hoping for the help to translating the three word Dien, Bien, and
Phu.
Thank you very much. We have the 25 year treaty for the peace and
cooperation with our neighbor.
Hakpheng,
phong ngo
Sep 28, 2001, 6:43:06 PM9/28/01
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Hi there ,
If you want to know more about DienBienPhu ,please come to
www.dienbienphu.org .They posted under 4 languages which very helpful to you
and to all.......Myself I know DienBienPhu just thru VietNam history...I did
not recall how and when that NAME appear in VietNam'land maybe you could know
more after visit that site and the name DBP seems base on Chinese language I
may be wrong ??? Good luck and have fun searching !!
Later
If you want to know more about DienBienPhu ,please come to
www.dienbienphu.org .They posted under 4 languages which very helpful to you
and to all.......Myself I know DienBienPhu just thru VietNam history...I did
not recall how and when that NAME appear in VietNam'land maybe you could know
more after visit that site and the name DBP seems base on Chinese language I
may be wrong ??? Good luck and have fun searching !!
Later
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p96bf
Sep 29, 2001, 12:05:07 AM9/29/01
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no its not a heaven city in vietname language. This three names must have
origine from our ba ta`o ca('c chu' neigbour up north. DDienh meaned mad or
crazy. Bien meaned border. Phu meaned big building like castle or village.
So its a crazy vilage at the border. Because of the crazy war between the
communits and french empire.
origine from our ba ta`o ca('c chu' neigbour up north. DDienh meaned mad or
crazy. Bien meaned border. Phu meaned big building like castle or village.
So its a crazy vilage at the border. Because of the crazy war between the
communits and french empire.
Samakhi Bopenphakniyom wrote in message ...
EL CHINO
Sep 29, 2001, 4:55:14 PM9/29/01
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Dear Sir:
I believed that the Name Dien Bien Phu which in chinese/vietnames
(Ha'n Vie^.t) meant border town or border district was relatively
recent. It was not invented by the Vietcong because was present in
maps under French Colonization.I suspected that the name was given by
our Emperor Minh Mang (182-1840)who through a royal edict changed the
names of many provinces in Vietnam as a political decision to show
among other things, Vietnamese domination over these territpries.
Those with names reminiscent of ancient/foreign origin were changed.
Muong Thanh its old name was clearly with Thai connotation. There was
a legend/belief that all Thai including the ones in Thailand, Laos,
Yunnan/China and of course Vietnam (Province of Lai Cha^u)origibated
from a cave or cavern located in Muong Thanh. If this were true then
Muong Thanh Was the Thai`s ancestra; home. Just like Some Vietnamese
believed, but here erroneously, that the Vietnamese Ancestral home was
South China in a terrotory encompassing the Province of Fukine,
Chekiang, Quang Chau and Quangsi.
I believed that the Name Dien Bien Phu which in chinese/vietnames
(Ha'n Vie^.t) meant border town or border district was relatively
recent. It was not invented by the Vietcong because was present in
maps under French Colonization.I suspected that the name was given by
our Emperor Minh Mang (182-1840)who through a royal edict changed the
names of many provinces in Vietnam as a political decision to show
among other things, Vietnamese domination over these territpries.
Those with names reminiscent of ancient/foreign origin were changed.
Muong Thanh its old name was clearly with Thai connotation. There was
a legend/belief that all Thai including the ones in Thailand, Laos,
Yunnan/China and of course Vietnam (Province of Lai Cha^u)origibated
from a cave or cavern located in Muong Thanh. If this were true then
Muong Thanh Was the Thai`s ancestra; home. Just like Some Vietnamese
believed, but here erroneously, that the Vietnamese Ancestral home was
South China in a terrotory encompassing the Province of Fukine,
Chekiang, Quang Chau and Quangsi.
hong....@boeing.com (phong ngo) wrote in message news:<GKE9r...@news.boeing.com>...
Samakhi Bopenphakniyom
Oct 1, 2001, 4:54:18 PM10/1/01
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Yes we are believ Muang Theng/Dien Bien Phu as homeland place, where
Khun Borom is descend from heaven and open the gourd. Vietnam can mak
the good tourism industry because French, Lao, Thai people we are all
interest in this crazy border village. Dien it does not mean heaven
like the Chinese Dian word?
Khun Borom is descend from heaven and open the gourd. Vietnam can mak
the good tourism industry because French, Lao, Thai people we are all
interest in this crazy border village. Dien it does not mean heaven
like the Chinese Dian word?
Hakpheng
elchinoboa...@yahoo.com (EL CHINO) wrote in message news:<e6e99313.01092...@posting.google.com>...
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