An Incomplete History of the dismal record of Community Computer Networks in Toronto
karl mamer
Mike Robinson wrote:
> >You left out the Parkdale Community Server. The
> > greatest failure in Community Computer Networks ever.
> > And under who's wise leadership was this venture run?
> > C'mon boB, fess up! None other than the Lord High
> > Protector of Greater Parkdale himself boB Allisat.
> >
>
> At least he was smart enough to post details
> with his allegations.
> Unlike...
boB's history and his dealing with UUNET is generally well known
among local toronto net users. And besides, the message was
aimed at boB Allisat, not to users in general. For better or
worse, boB knows his own history. I was merely reminding him
of that. If you're curious about names and dates, I posted
a follow on article. Patience. Alternatively, do a search
on a web engine on key terms like parkdale community server.
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Mike Robinson
karl mamer spracht...
> boB's history and his dealing with UUNET is generally well known
> among local toronto net users. And besides, the message was
> aimed at boB Allisat, not to users in general.
Then it should've been done via email, or perhaps in
some other newsgroup you turkeys can conjer up.
You're spewing in hamilton.general.
Of course, you have every right to do so, but if
once in a while one of us poor Hamilton folk get sick and tired
of your spew...
> For better or
> worse, boB knows his own history. I was merely reminding him
> of that. If you're curious about names and dates, I posted
> a follow on article. Patience. Alternatively, do a search
> on a web engine on key terms like parkdale community server.
>
Sure, like I give a shit about Toronto enough, or this thread enough, to
have to go through
20 gigs of dejanews files to catch up on the spew.
Then, rattrap blurbled...
> Ummm... you may want to read through the thread and notice the 600 line document
> Karl posted, chock full o' details...
>
> Some people like to speak before they have all the facts...
>
> ... not mentioning any names of course....
I went through the thread, and got the details you spoke of, before my
post.
I also got them via email from some jerk who found it necessary to chuck
some
Toronto spew into my mailbox.
All of it was bullshit.
That was the point of my post.
You're telling me to research bullshit I've already
commented on.
Typical for you bobbbashers.
In a nutshell, the provincial government, and the police, need to have
a look at the TFN, and whats going on.
It seems to me, at the very least, that the government needs to review
how taxpayers dollars are being spent, and how a non-profit agency
is being operated.
At the very least, ther police need to review activities of the freenet
and its board.
Mike
RatTrap
Replied in can.general - <334E65...@netaccess.on.ca>
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997 12:23:23 -0400, Mike Robinson <mrob...@netaccess.on.ca>
graced our monitors with the following:
>Then, rattrap blurbled...
>
>> Ummm... you may want to read through the thread and notice the 600 line document
>> Karl posted, chock full o' details...
>>
>> Some people like to speak before they have all the facts...
>>
>> ... not mentioning any names of course....
>
>I went through the thread, and got the details you spoke of, before my
>post.
Then why did you accuse Karl of not posting details?
>I also got them via email from some jerk who found it necessary to chuck
>some
>Toronto spew into my mailbox.
>
>All of it was bullshit.
>That was the point of my post.
>You're telling me to research bullshit I've already
>commented on.
>Typical for you bobbbashers.
Funny... all I commented on was that you accused Karl of not posting details.
Karl DID post details... I pointed that fact out... and you got all bitter about
it. As for being a 'BobBasher' ... Bob does that just fine on his own by posting
crap (not all of it's crap, he did have some good stuff packed in there too)
All I've seen from YOU though is constant attacks on the people who DO disagree
with Bob (along with ravings about people from Toronto, and the Toronto Sun...
which weren't really relevant) so maybe you should quit acting like a
Bob-BrownNoser, get all the facts up front... and THEN post messages...
>In a nutshell, the provincial government, and the police, need to have
>a look at the TFN, and whats going on.
>It seems to me, at the very least, that the government needs to review
>how taxpayers dollars are being spent, and how a non-profit agency
>is being operated.
>At the very least, ther police need to review activities of the freenet
>and its board.
And no one has disagreed with you here... Karl added something that Bob left
out... the fact that it put Bob in a bad light seems to have irked you...
... you have a nice day too.
RatTrap
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Tom Evans
In article <334E65...@netaccess.on.ca>,
Mike Robinson <mrob...@netaccess.on.ca> wrote:
>karl mamer spracht...
>
>> boB's history and his dealing with UUNET is generally well known
>> among local toronto net users. And besides, the message was
>> aimed at boB Allisat, not to users in general.
>
>Then it should've been done via email, or perhaps in
>some other newsgroup you turkeys can conjer up.
>You're spewing in hamilton.general.
>Of course, you have every right to do so, but if
>once in a while one of us poor Hamilton folk get sick and tired
>of your spew...
>
>
>In a nutshell, the provincial government, and the police, need to have
>a look at the TFN, and whats going on.
I agree. A witch hunt! A provincial task force to investigate!
>It seems to me, at the very least, that the government needs to review
>how taxpayers dollars are being spent, and how a non-profit agency
>is being operated.
Operqting pretty good from the volume of news pouring therefrom.
>At the very least, ther police need to review activities of the freenet
>and its board.
>
>Mike
You call 'em up and tell them that Mike. Do it 3 way so I can record the
laughter in the background.
yadda yadda - heard b0B was moving to Hamilton hahahahahah.
--
ev...@samurai.com as the veneer of democracy starts to fade
karl mamer
Mike Robinson <mrob...@netaccess.on.ca> writes:
> karl mamer spracht...
>
> > boB's history and his dealing with UUNET is generally well known
> > among local toronto net users. And besides, the message was
> > aimed at boB Allisat, not to users in general.
>
> Then it should've been done via email, or perhaps in
> some other newsgroup you turkeys can conjer up.
Not really no.
> Of course, you have every right to do so, but if
> once in a while one of us poor Hamilton folk get sick and tired
> of your spew...
Maybe. Find out how to use a kill file if you don't like it.
> > For better or
> > worse, boB knows his own history. I was merely reminding him
> > of that. If you're curious about names and dates, I posted
> > a follow on article. Patience. Alternatively, do a search
> > on a web engine on key terms like parkdale community server.
> >
>
> Sure, like I give a shit about Toronto enough, or this thread enough, to
Super. Learn how to killfile articles cross posted to tor.general.
> have to go through
> 20 gigs of dejanews files to catch up on the spew.
Yawn. And yet you originally complained the posting didn't
have times and dates and names. Well, chuckles, if you want
what netizens generally know do you home work.
> All of it was bullshit.
Thanks for sharing.
> Typical for you bobbbashers.
Hey, there's a new term.
> In a nutshell, the provincial government, and the police, need to have
> a look at the TFN, and whats going on.
Super. I suggest you call them up right now.
> At the very least, ther police need to review activities of the freenet
> and its board.
Why? Because a known kook and poster of child porn with a major
beef against the board spews bile?
--
"The simple fact is... in the city there is nothing to shoot
but people."
- Bob Allisat
Graham Bullers
Mike Robinson (mrob...@netaccess.on.ca) wrote:
: In a nutshell, the provincial government, and the police, need to have
: a look at the TFN, and whats going on.
: It seems to me, at the very least, that the government needs to review
: how taxpayers dollars are being spent, and how a non-profit agency
: is being operated.
: At the very least, ther police need to review activities of the freenet
: and its board.
: Mike
And I agree with that,it is time.
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Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.The courage
to change the things I can.And the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people
I had to kill because they pissed me off.________alt.2600.moderated________
Graham Bullers
Tom tell them about the child porn on not.torfree,the board members
resigning over a can of worms,volunteers resigning over not.torfree.net.
Tom Evans (ev...@samurai.com) wrote:
: In article <334E65...@netaccess.on.ca>,
: Mike Robinson <mrob...@netaccess.on.ca> wrote:
: >karl mamer spracht...
: >
: >> boB's history and his dealing with UUNET is generally well known
: >> among local toronto net users. And besides, the message was
: >> aimed at boB Allisat, not to users in general.
: >
: >Then it should've been done via email, or perhaps in
: >some other newsgroup you turkeys can conjer up.
: >You're spewing in hamilton.general.
: >Of course, you have every right to do so, but if
: >once in a while one of us poor Hamilton folk get sick and tired
: >of your spew...
: >
: >
: >In a nutshell, the provincial government, and the police, need to have
: >a look at the TFN, and whats going on.
: I agree. A witch hunt! A provincial task force to investigate!
: >It seems to me, at the very least, that the government needs to review
: >how taxpayers dollars are being spent, and how a non-profit agency
: >is being operated.
: Operqting pretty good from the volume of news pouring therefrom.
: >At the very least, ther police need to review activities of the freenet
: >and its board.
: >
: >Mike
: You call 'em up and tell them that Mike. Do it 3 way so I can record the
: laughter in the background.
: yadda yadda - heard b0B was moving to Hamilton hahahahahah.
: --
: ev...@samurai.com as the veneer of democracy starts to fade
Bill Chow
Mike Robinson (mrob...@netaccess.on.ca) wrote:
: In a nutshell, the provincial government, and the police, need to have
: a look at the TFN, and whats going on.
: how taxpayers dollars are being spent, and how a non-profit agency
: is being operated.
TFN has always been run by volunteers supported mostly by donated money,
not taxpayers' money. No money was ever received from federal or municipal
governments. The provincial government under ONIP did give TFN a matching
grant ( $1 for every $3 raised through the private sector). Even this
limited government funding is ending. Most of the grants received had been
spent by the former Board, almost all had resigned.
Mike Robinson, you are ignorant regarding TFN but you insist on spewing
your bullshits about TFN and Toronto, from your hick town.
: At the very least, ther police need to review activities of the freenet
: and its board.
: Mike
Please do call the police Mike; so they can charge you with mischief.
As a current TFN Board member, I have volunteered personal time, energy
and efforts on various Board/office/fundraising duties to help TFN. In
return, I have received no remuneration, not one cent.
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a m e s g @pathcom.com <<>>
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997 17:28:58 GMT, ab...@torfree.net (Graham Bullers)
wrote:
>Tom tell them about the child porn on not.torfree,the board members
>resigning over a can of worms,volunteers resigning over not.torfree.net.
You know, as weird as Boob got, at least he was SOMEWHAT coherent,
most of the time, more often than not. I guess when your only two
remaining defenders on the 'net are a Speedbump and a Bullershitter,
you might as well leave.
Mike Robinson
karl mamer wrote:
> Why? Because a known kook and poster of child porn with a major
> beef against the board spews bile?
I've seen this shit before, spewing out of Carleton and Toronto.
Some guy calls a spade a spade and a small band of wannabes brands
the poor bastard a 'KotM'. Seen it. Been there. Done that.
If you have proof of the porn charge, post it.
I mean proof, not pages of psychobabble and innuendo.
Mike
Mike Robinson
> On Fri, 11 Apr 1997 12:23:23 -0400, Mike Robinson <mrob...@netaccess.on.ca>
> >
> >Then it should've been done via email, or perhaps in
> >some other newsgroup you turkeys can conjer up.
> >You're spewing in hamilton.general.
> >Of course, you have every right to do so, but if
> >once in a while one of us poor Hamilton folk get sick and tired
> >of your spew...
To which David Ratcliffe (any relation to rattrap?)offered...
> Let's check something here, shall we?
>
> Newsgroups: tor.general, torfree.general, can.infohighway, ott.general,
> hamilton.general, ont.general, can.general, soc.culture.usenet, ncf.general,
> earth.general, news.admin.net-abuse.misc
>
> What's that old saying about glass houses?
>
Not glasses houses.
The saying is, put your glasses on before you read.
Try again. This time read it.
Mike
RatTrap
Replied in can.general - <3352B4...@netaccess.on.ca>
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:51:12 -0400, Mike Robinson <mrob...@netaccess.on.ca>
graced our monitors with the following:
What are you... Bob's Lawyer? Bob's Guardian?
... somehow, I think you're just a Bob, Wanna-be, all your messages seem to
point that way.
If Bob feels the need to defend himself, he's more than capable...