Iowa fix is in - GOP moves vote count HQ to "undisclosed location"

[Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals]

I never voted in my life. I found out long ago that democracy is a
hoax and elections are routinely rigged.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2011/12/iowa-gop-moving-votecount-to-undisclosed-location-108812.html

Iowa GOP moving vote-count to 'undisclosed location'
) By JONATHAN MARTIN | 12/27/11 7:15 PM EST Threats to disrupt the
Iowa Republican caucuses next week have prompted state GOP officials
to move the vote tabulation to an "undisclosed location," POLITICO has
learned.

The state party has not yet told the campaigns exactly where the
returns will be added up, only that it will be off-site from the Iowa
GOP's Des Moines headquarters. The 2008 caucus results were tabulated
at the state party offices, which sit just a few blocks from the state
capitol.

snip
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put together!

Affirmative action is double racism. Persecuting whites in the belief
blacks can't make it on ability.

[Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names]

They are concerned that Newt's wife will show up and her hair piece
will fall into the vote counting machinery and fuck it up.

[Ray Fischer]

Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>

>I never voted in my life.

Thanks!

--
Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
rfis...@sonic.net | Goethe

[C...@prayforme.com]

On 28 Dec 2011 07:54:17 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>I never voted in my life.
>
>Thanks!

Hey, we agree!

Anyone who isn't involved in the voting process and doesn't vote can't
possible cast an educated vote.

GM is a good canidate for ACORN recruitment, they're always looking
for ignorant pea'poe to sign up to vote

Hey GM, why anounce your ignorance on Usenet?

CB
NEW E*TRADE Baby - Girlfriend - Linsey, the Milk-A-Holic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEXZ2hfD3bU&feature=relmfu

[C...@prayforme.com]

On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:38:51 -0500, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
<C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

>On 28 Dec 2011 07:54:17 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I never voted in my life.
>>
>>Thanks!
>
>Hey, we agree!
>
>Anyone who isn't involved in the voting process and doesn't vote can't
>possible cast an educated vote.
>
>GM is a good canidate for ACORN recruitment, they're always looking
>for ignorant pea'poe to sign up to vote
>
>Hey GM, why anounce your ignorance on Usenet?

Instead of feeling hopeless, feel like making a difference.

If you knew the issues and what's at steak you'd know America can't
handle another four years of the Marxist and help to turn the ship
around, heading into calmer seas.

Obama is like Hurrican Kitrina. He came out of nowhere, without a
thing to crow about. He was a failure in Chicago, voted present in the
Senate and blew the debt up $4 tillion as President.

[NaturalBornCitizen]

On 12/28/2011 2:54 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
> Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals<bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> I never voted in my life.
>
> Thanks!
>

people that don't keep up with the issues shouldn 't vote.
that means you, rayray.

[Harrison J. Bounel]

On Dec 28, 9:54 am, NaturalBornCitizen <n...@t.invalid> wrote:
> On 12/28/2011 2:54 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>

> > Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals<beta...@earthlink.net>  wrote:

>
> >> I never voted in my life.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> people that don't keep up with the issues shouldn 't vote.
> that means you,  rayray.

The ONLY issue lil' fat "groid Ray cares about is the color of Obama's
skin. To Ray,nothing else matters.

[NaturalBornCitizen]

that and the minuscule govt check he gets to sell out his country and
fellow citizens with his vote.

[Marvin the Martian]

On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:47:27 -0500, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:03:26 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
> GM loves highway criminals <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I never voted in my life. I found out long ago that democracy is a hoax
>>and elections are routinely rigged.
>>
>>http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2011/12/iowa-gop-moving-
votecount-to-undisclosed-location-108812.html
>>
>>Iowa GOP moving vote-count to 'undisclosed location' ) By JONATHAN
>>MARTIN | 12/27/11 7:15 PM EST Threats to disrupt the Iowa Republican
>>caucuses next week have prompted state GOP officials to move the vote
>>tabulation to an "undisclosed location," POLITICO has learned.
>>
>>The state party has not yet told the campaigns exactly where the returns
>>will be added up, only that it will be off-site from the Iowa GOP's Des
>>Moines headquarters. The 2008 caucus results were tabulated at the state
>>party offices, which sit just a few blocks from the state capitol.
>>
>>snip

The roaches run for darkness in the light of day.

This looks bad, and they wouldn't do it unless what they were going to do
in secret was worse than looking like a bunch of corrupt election
stealing frauds, so it is very bad, indeed!

[Harrison J. Bounel]

HAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!! Thats fucking rich !! A goddamned demorat/
progressive sqealing like pig under the gate about fraudulent votes.
LMMFAO !!

Maybe Newt,like Al Franken, can find a few hundred paper ballots in
the trunk of his car to help put him over the hump. LMAO !!


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090105102841AAEQN32

http://biggovernment.com/cjohnson/2011/12/21/hacking-the-iowa-caucuses/


The hacking collective known as Anonymous has allegedly targeted the
Iowa caucus’s voting machines.


According to the Associated Press, there are two tools that the
“hacktivists” could use to create some chaos. The first is a “denial
of service” request, which sends thousands of requests to a website
server and makes it useless. The second is a SQL injection, which
inserts a code into a website’s software, thereby exploiting its
vulnerabilities and forcing it to execute the hacker’s code.

It wouldn’t be the first time that SQL insertions were used to try to
rock the vote. In Sweden’s elections in 2010 a voter tried to insert
an SQL insertion in the vote by hand-writing. Presumably a hacker
could try something similar at the Iowa caucus.

There are other worse examples of SQL insertions being dangerous. In
2010, Washington D.C. conducted a pilot project to allow overseas and
military voters to download and return absentee ballots over the
website. The city made the system open to the public for only three
days, but that was just enough time for J. Alex Halderman, a professor
in computer science at the Univesity of Michigan, to expose some of
the systems flaws. Within 36 hours of the system going live, our team
had found and exploited a vulnerability that gave us almost total
control of the server software, including the ability to change votes
and reveal voters’ secret ballots,” Halderman wrote.

Alas, were such an attack carried out in the Iowa caucus, it wouldn’t
be the first time an SQL inserted caused great harm. The Royal Navy’s
website was attacked in that manner by a Romanian hacker.


In Iowa, part of the problem is the centralization of the system which
makes it vulnerable to attack. Most caucuses Iowa use secret ballots
which are cast on paper. Some, in the past, have even used a show of
hands. The results are then sent via computer or phone to Iowa GOP
headquarters were they are tabulated by a computer and announced. It’s
there at, and en route to headquarters, that the vulnerabilities
persist.

There are presumably quite a number of ways to defend against this
kind of hacking. The first and most obvious is to have the
decentralized results posted at the precincts. Bloggers or others
observers could go and post those results online and compare them to
past elections. If there are shenanigans at a particular precinct it
could be more easily detected without the risk of corrupting the
entire process. Voters at each polling place could be required to show
identification and those without identification could be provided it
way ahead of time. This would stop insiders or outsiders from stealing
the process.

Both of these reforms are unlikely to happen for two reasons. The
caucuses are creatures of the parties, which rely on them to prove
their relevance. The more centralized the process, the more the
parties have relevance in the state. There are quite a number of Iowa
consultants who rely on their ties to the GOP or Democrats to help
candidates “deliver” Iowa. Voter IDs won’t do politically either.
Given the number of old voters who lack any sort of ID this might
induce hyperventilating by those worried about voter
disenfranchisement.

Those ostensibly most worried about such disenfranchisement—the
political left—has long disliked electronic voting machines. The
reasons for this are two fold: electronic voting makes it less likely
that local pols (or poll watchers) can steal elections and they often
harbor a conspiratorial fear that voting machines are rigged against
the people.

When Micah White, founder of the Occupy Wall Street movement, was a
student at Swarthmore College he posted a series of stolen internal
company memos that exposed flaws in Diebold’s voting machines on his
website. Diebold sued the students for copyright infringement under
the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. He and a few other students
fought all the way to the Ninth Circuit, which predictably voted for
the students.

From Occupy Wall Street to now Occupy Des Moines, a former activist
posted a two-minute video on YouTube detailing plans to “peacefully
shut down the first-in-the-nation Iowa caucus.” The activist say the
video was left outside of his tent on November 3.

As I noted last week, there is plenty of opportunity to turn the Iowa
caucus into the Iowa circus, especially once the “Occupy Iowa Caucus”
movement comes to the foreground. Yesterday eight members were
arrested in the headquarters of the Democratic party headquarters in
Des Moines.

[Christopher Helms]

The Republicans have now sunk to the level of fucking each other to
death at the electronic ballot box. I think W2 just became the odds on
favorite to "win" Iowa after all. Every election, the Republican party
finds a cool new way to make voting a little more meaningless.

[NaturalBornCitizen]

says the dumbmass after the dems buttfkkd Hillary in the last election.

[Marvin the Martian]

They don't consider Ron Paul to be part of their machine. The idea is to
fuck over the Iowa voters and Ron Paul to get one of their stooges, like
the Grinch or Mittens as the nominee.

> I think W2 just became the odds on
> favorite to "win" Iowa after all. Every election, the Republican party
> finds a cool new way to make voting a little more meaningless.

Both the Republican and Democratic parties are owned by the central
bankers. Don't think so? The bankers can print up all the money they
want; they can thus afford to buy both parties.

So, the Republicans advocate less taxes and the same amount of spending.
That will result in our economic collapse. The Democrats advocate more
taxes and far more spending, and that will result in our economic
collapse. You are given a Hobson's choice of death by Republican or Death
by Democrat, but it will result in death.

If you were fooled by the game that your party is pure and the other
isn't, you are, by definition, a fool.

[liberal]

Ahhhhhhh, so you think your large check for selling out your country
means you're a respectable traitor?

[liberal]

On Dec 28, 9:09 am, "C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:38:51 -0500, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

> >On 28 Dec 2011 07:54:17 GMT, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>
> >>Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals  <beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>I never voted in my life.
>
> >>Thanks!
>
> >Hey, we agree!
>
> >Anyone who isn't involved in the voting process and doesn't vote can't
> >possible cast an educated vote.

"Educated"?????? There's irony here, folks. Read on!

>
> >GM is a good canidate for ACORN recruitment, they're always looking
> >for ignorant pea'poe to sign up to vote
>
> >Hey GM, why anounce your ignorance on Usenet?

/\/\/\/\/\/\

>
> Instead of feeling hopeless, feel like making a difference.
>
> If you knew the issues and what's at steak you'd know America can't
> handle another four years of the Marxist and help to turn the ship
> around, heading into calmer seas.
>
> Obama is like Hurrican Kitrina. He came out of nowhere, without a

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

> thing to crow about. He was a failure in Chicago, voted present in the
> Senate and blew the debt up $4 tillion as President.

and /\/\/\/\


One spelling mistake is a typo, more than one is the hallmark of an
ignorant lout.

Oops, make that "an ignorant reichhtard lout".....sorry, maybe that
was a bit repetitive.

[Bob]

"liberal" <liber...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5f4fd6a6-7070-43aa...@p42g2000vbt.googlegroups.com...

^^^^^^^ ^^^
was a bit repetitive.

[C...@prayforme.com]

Feel bedduh?

[C...@prayforme.com]

On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 12:54:31 -0600, Marvin the Martian

Ron Paul is the Dims choice, not Republican's. Iowa's 'citizens' can
cross party lines in their caucus vote.

>
>> I think W2 just became the odds on
>> favorite to "win" Iowa after all. Every election, the Republican party
>> finds a cool new way to make voting a little more meaningless.
>
>Both the Republican and Democratic parties are owned by the central
>bankers. Don't think so? The bankers can print up all the money they
>want; they can thus afford to buy both parties.

Tell about Diebold voting machines, pleez. I love to hear fairytales

>
>So, the Republicans advocate less taxes and the same amount of spending.

The whole tea party movement is for Congress to reduce both spending
and lower taxes, fool.

>That will result in our economic collapse.

We're nearly there because of the thug from Chicago and his Legion of
Socialists seeking social justice from the people in higher healt'cay
costs, ever higher FICA tax, more EPA regulations...,

The Democrats advocate more
>taxes and far more spending, and that will result in our economic
>collapse. You are given a Hobson's choice of death by Republican or Death
>by Democrat, but it will result in death.

Make the wise choice, go with Newt. His Contract with America rocked
the economy. In fact it lead to the greatest expansion in world
history up until uppity Barney boy insisted banks give away free
houses to poo folk.

>
>If you were fooled by the game that your party is pure and the other
>isn't, you are, by definition, a fool.

Newt's not pretty nor perfect but he get results and doesn't cotten to
no political correctness.

CB
He paid $300,000 for the cost of investigating the final complaint -
whether Gingrich's college course had violated federal tax law - as
part of an agreement with House ethics investigators. Led by
Republicans, the ethics committee never reached a conclusion about
that allegation. And the IRS cleared the organizations connected with
the course of any tax violations.

http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/05/former_house_speaker_newt_ging.html

[Marvin the Martian]

Ron Paul is about following the US constitution, the rule of law,
balancing the budget, and getting us out of stupid wars.

Sounds appealing to any rational conservative.

The other candidates are the Tweedle Dee to the Democrats Tweedle Dumb.
The Republicans and Democrats differ on minor issues, but they both
support creeping socialism, rising national debt, and the central
banker's agenda.

>>> I think W2 just became the odds on
>>> favorite to "win" Iowa after all. Every election, the Republican party
>>> finds a cool new way to make voting a little more meaningless.
>>
>>Both the Republican and Democratic parties are owned by the central
>>bankers. Don't think so? The bankers can print up all the money they
>>want; they can thus afford to buy both parties.
>
> Tell about Diebold voting machines, pleez. I love to hear fairytales

Do you understand how the federal reserve and fractional reserve banking
of a fiat currency works?

>>So, the Republicans advocate less taxes and the same amount of spending.
>
> The whole tea party movement is for Congress to reduce both spending and
> lower taxes, fool.

TEA = Taxed Enough Already. Their primary cause is no more tax increases.

>>That will result in our economic collapse.
>
> We're nearly there because of the thug from Chicago and his Legion of
> Socialists seeking social justice from the people in higher healt'cay
> costs, ever higher FICA tax, more EPA regulations...,
>
> The Democrats advocate more
>>taxes and far more spending, and that will result in our economic
>>collapse. You are given a Hobson's choice of death by Republican or
>>Death by Democrat, but it will result in death.
>
> Make the wise choice, go with Newt. His Contract with America rocked the
> economy. In fact it lead to the greatest expansion in world history up
> until uppity Barney boy insisted banks give away free houses to poo
> folk.

Noot is corrupt, as proven by his IRS fine and ethics violations. He is a
political whore who will say whatever he feels will get him elected,
which is why he flip flops often - sometimes within a week! Noot is a
bankster stooge who wants to start a nuclear WW III with Iran in order to
run up the national debt and collapse the economy. He doesn't care about
how many people are going to die in his drive for war.

I don't vote for sociopathic nutjobs.

[C...@prayforme.com]

Ron Paul is the Cynthia McKinney of the Republican Party, a nut,
clueless on Islamo-fascist foreign policy...

...and your a kook

[Marvin the Martian]

So, you spew irrelevant argumentum ad hominems based on lies and your
hate of people rather well.

It isn't very convincing of much other than you're psychologically
troubled, however.

[C...@prayforme.com]

Ron Paul would start whining in a debate with Oboobuh. You know how
the guy whines. The good doctor doesn't know any names outside
America's borders. He's also a racist like Obama against Jews.

[Harrison J. Bounel]

> finds a cool new way to make voting a little more meaningless.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah,they beat the snot out of progressives.

[Ray Fischer]

C...@PrayForMe.com <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I never voted in my life.
>>
>>Thanks!
>
>Hey, we agree!
>
>Anyone who isn't involved in the voting process and doesn't vote can't
>possible cast an educated vote.

Then I sure hope you don't vote.

[Ray Fischer]

I bet you don't even know what caused the $14 trillion national debt.

[NaturalBornCitizen]

no checks from gubmint come to me.
they only take my money at the point of a gun to give to the moochers.

[liberal]

Yup. Thanks for the opportunity.

[C...@prayforme.com]

On 29 Dec 2011 07:03:41 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>NaturalBornCitizen <n...@t.invalid> wrote:
>>On 12/28/2011 2:54 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals<bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I never voted in my life.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>>people that don't keep up with the issues shouldn 't vote.
>
>I bet you don't even know what caused the $14 trillion national debt.

The age old problem of living large on that backs of working people.

The middle class is dissipearing because of government spending.

Progressives think it's a revenue problem that can be fixed by taxing
the productive, social justice if you will.

The only problem with that 'is'...the rich pass it on to their
customers who eventually stop shopping and the trickle down is lay
offs.

What I just splained in part is called the Laffer Curve.

Economist Laffer Endorses Gingrich

Wednesday, 28 Dec 2011 12:29 PM
By Newsmax Wires
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Republican-Gingrich-Laffer-endorse/2011/12/28/id/422357

Arthur Laffer, the architect of Ronald Reagan’s economic plan,
announced today that he is endorsing Newt Gingrich for president.

"Newt has the best plan for jobs and economic growth of any candidate
in the field,” said Laffer, the renowned economist who is the father
of The Laffer Curve and supply-side economics.

“Like Ronald Reagan’s tax cuts and pro-growth policies, Newt’s low
individual and corporate tax rates, deregulation. and strong dollar
monetary policies will create a boom of new investment and economic
growth leading to the creation of tens of millions of new jobs over
the next decade,” Laffer declared. “Plus, Newt’s record of helping
Ronald Reagan pass the Kemp Roth tax cuts and enacting the largest
capital gains tax cut in history as speaker of the House shows he can
get this plan passed and put it into action.”

Laffer, who will join Gingrich in Storm Lake, Iowa, Thursday for a
formal news conference announcing the endorsement, said, "Rebuilding
the America we love requires returning to job creation and economic
growth. We need big changes to fix the economy, and I am ready to
stand up to Barack Obama’s class warfare rhetoric to make the case
that letting the American people keep more of what they earn is the
best way to create jobs.”

Laffer is the founder and chairman of Laffer Associates, an economic
research firm in Nashville, Tenn., focusing on interconnecting
macroeconomics, political, and demographic changes affecting global
financial markets.

Editor’s Note: For a limited time, Newsmax is making a CD of Ronald
Reagan’s Greatest Laughs available for just $1. Go here now to find
these funny Ronald Reagan quotes and jokes.!


© Newsmax. All rights reserved.

CB
"As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was given the Nobel
Peace Prize without any accomplishments to his name, because America
gave him the White House based on the same credentials."
~Newt Gingrich

[Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals]

On Dec 28, 2:35 pm, "C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
> Ron Paul is the Dims choice, not Republican's. Iowa's 'citizens' can
> cross party lines in their caucus vote.
>
>

That's probably true. I'd like to see ron win but i fear if he is the
gop candidate, then obozo will win. Ron's age and views will cost him.

[Ray Fischer]

NaturalBornCitizen <n...@t.invalid> wrote:
>On 12/28/2011 2:43 PM, liberal wrote:
>> On Dec 28, 11:03 am, NaturalBornCitizen<n...@t.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 12/28/2011 10:57 AM, Harrison J. Bounel wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Dec 28, 9:54 am, NaturalBornCitizen<n...@t.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/28/2011 2:54 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals<beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> I never voted in my life.
>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>>> people that don't keep up with the issues shouldn 't vote.
>>>>> that means you, rayray.
>>>
>>>> The ONLY issue lil' fat "groid Ray cares about is the color of Obama's
>>>> skin. To Ray,nothing else matters.
>>>
>>> that and the minuscule govt check he gets to sell out his country and
>>> fellow citizens with his vote.
>>
>> Ahhhhhhh, so you think your large check for selling out your country
>> means you're a respectable traitor?
>
>no checks from gubmint come to me.

They come from your corporate masters.

[Ray Fischer]

C...@PrayForMe.com <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>NaturalBornCitizen <n...@t.invalid> wrote:
>>>On 12/28/2011 2:54 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals<bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I never voted in my life.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>people that don't keep up with the issues shouldn 't vote.
>>
>>I bet you don't even know what caused the $14 trillion national debt.
>
>The age old problem of living large on that backs of working people.

Specifics, rightard.

>The middle class is dissipearing because of government spending.

How does that work? Be specific.

>Progressives think it's a revenue problem that can be fixed by taxing
>the productive, social justice if you will.

The Republicans doubled federal spending in just eight years of Bush.

>The only problem with that 'is'...the rich pass it on to their
>customers

Wrong, rightard. People don't buy goods from the rich.

>What I just splained in part is called the Laffer Curve.

Only fools and crooks believe in the Laffer Curve.

[C...@prayforme.com]

If Ron Paul comes out the winner in Iowa we'll know Dims will do
anything to get elected. Even throw their vote to the opposition to
make sure Obama faces a weakling