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Poul

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Jan 9, 2002, 7:14:40 PM1/9/02
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The Flemish government recently cut its bilateral cooperation projects
with Israel and the Palestinian Authority, in a move that infuriated
the Foreign Ministry when it was publicized today.

In a decision taken on December 7, the Flemish government adopted a
resolution stating that "as long as military violence and terror
continues in the region [the Middle East], and in the absence of
negotiations or implementation of elements of agreements, there will
be no new direct bilateral cooperation projects with the PA or with
the State of Israel."

http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/01/09/LatestNews/LatestNews.41416.html

Jeff Charlier

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Jan 11, 2002, 3:36:33 AM1/11/02
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"Poul" <poul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The Flemish government recently cut its bilateral cooperation projects
> with Israel and the Palestinian Authority, in a move that infuriated
> the Foreign Ministry when it was publicized today.
>
> http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/01/09/LatestNews/LatestNews.41416.html

What is Belgian culture ?
It's a country with two cultures : flemish and walloon.
Although we don't agree 100%, we don't steel land from the other.
And we neither use F16's, bulldozers and lawyers-speakmen to harrass the
other.

Jeff

I.R.

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Jan 11, 2002, 4:04:44 AM1/11/02
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"Jeff Charlier" <jef.ch...@pandora.be> wrote in message
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But they do support Arab Terrorism. That IS
important to know.

ir

brutus

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Jan 11, 2002, 10:09:16 AM1/11/02
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"I.R." <i...@newly.com> wrote in message
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> Weird how belgium has become a greater threat to
greater Israel than the palestinians...

>
>
>


Poul

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Jan 11, 2002, 3:08:43 PM1/11/02
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"Jeff Charlier" <jef.ch...@pandora.be> wrote in message news:<lux%7.3$C34.1...@hestia.telenet-ops.be>...
> "Poul" <poul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6de3d876.02010...@posting.google.com...
> > The Flemish government recently cut its bilateral cooperation projects
> > with Israel and the Palestinian Authority, in a move that infuriated
> > the Foreign Ministry when it was publicized today.
> > http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/01/09/LatestNews/LatestNews.41416.html
> What is Belgian culture ?
> It's a country with two cultures : flemish and walloon.

And you can name any significant product of either culture in last,
say, 100 years?

> Although we don't agree 100%, we don't steel land from the other.
> And we neither use F16's, bulldozers and lawyers-speakmen to harrass the
> other.
> Jeff

How do you harass each other then?
Just curious...My few hours in Belgium were the most boring part of entire
vacation, and that is counting waiting in airports and eating in London
restaurants...

Poul

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Jan 11, 2002, 3:09:51 PM1/11/02
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"brutus" <sha...@templemount.com> wrote in message news:<a1mv6r$ftk$1...@paris.btinternet.com>...

Threat? No...a comic relief...a boneheaded sidekick in a triller movie.

Le Mod Pol

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Jan 12, 2002, 12:15:35 AM1/12/02
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>
Poul wrote:

Flanders had a great number of fine artists that produced
really grand work but that was 400 to 600 years ago

> And you can name any significant product of either culture in last,
> say, 100 years?
>

Rene Magritte started out designing wall paper in Belgium.
The he went to Paris around 1924 where he met Giorgio Di
Chirico who a few years before started surrealism with Carlo
Carra. Magritte became a leading exponent of surrealism
becoming better known than either Dali or DiChirico.

and that's all folks

lvaughn

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Jan 12, 2002, 3:52:37 AM1/12/02
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On 11 Jan 2002 12:08:43 -0800, poul...@yahoo.com (Poul) wrote:

>"Jeff Charlier" <jef.ch...@pandora.be> wrote in message news:<lux%7.3$C34.1...@hestia.telenet-ops.be>...
>> "Poul" <poul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:6de3d876.02010...@posting.google.com...
>> > The Flemish government recently cut its bilateral cooperation projects
>> > with Israel and the Palestinian Authority, in a move that infuriated
>> > the Foreign Ministry when it was publicized today.
>> > http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/01/09/LatestNews/LatestNews.41416.html
>> What is Belgian culture ?
>> It's a country with two cultures : flemish and walloon.
>
>And you can name any significant product of either culture in last,
>say, 100 years?
>
>> Although we don't agree 100%, we don't steel land from the other.
>> And we neither use F16's, bulldozers and lawyers-speakmen to harrass the
>> other.
>> Jeff
>

Poul wrote

>How do you harass each other then?
>Just curious...My few hours in Belgium were the most boring part of entire
>vacation, and that is counting waiting in airports and eating in London
>restaurants...

Boy your an insulting pea brain. Too bad countries cannot detect ass
holes in advance and keep them out.

I have never set foot in Belgium, but I would think it would be a
pleasure. More than one could say about where ever and whoever
claim's you.

lvaughn, Pinetop Az. USA


F u s t i g a t o r

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Jan 12, 2002, 8:21:22 AM1/12/02
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Vitae forma vocatur, Le Mod Pol <mod...@email.com>, die Sat, 12 Jan
2002 00:15:35 -0500, in littera <3C3FC457...@email.com> in foro
soc.culture.belgium (et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

Forgot Paul Delvaux, Constant Permeke, the various painters of the
school of Latem, James Ensor, among others....

Fusti

Albert Reingewirtz

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Jan 12, 2002, 10:56:54 AM1/12/02
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In article <3C3FC457...@email.com>,

Better known than Chirico? I don't think so! Belgium 's fame is in
waffles and chocolate, not in art, not in bravery, not in smarts
considering that they of all people set up courts to judge world leaders
before considering their bloody past in the Congo.


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Albert Reingewirtz

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Jan 12, 2002, 10:58:57 AM1/12/02
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In article <7mvv3usggk3881ufa...@4ax.com>,

Never heard about any of those gentlemen. What were they doing porno?

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Poul

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Jan 12, 2002, 2:48:39 PM1/12/02
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lvaughn <lva...@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<11uv3uold14loesf7...@4ax.com>...

Figures...have you ever been outside Arizona? Disneyland doesn't count.

> but I would think it would be a
> pleasure. More than one could say about where ever and whoever
> claim's you.

And how would you know that?

> lvaughn, Pinetop Az. USA

Poul

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Jan 12, 2002, 2:50:40 PM1/12/02
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F u s t i g a t o r <fusti...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:<7mvv3usggk3881ufa...@4ax.com>...

> Vitae forma vocatur, Le Mod Pol <mod...@email.com>, die Sat, 12 Jan
> 2002 00:15:35 -0500, in littera <3C3FC457...@email.com> in foro
> soc.culture.belgium (et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
> >Poul wrote:
> >Flanders had a great number of fine artists that produced
> >really grand work but that was 400 to 600 years ago
> >> And you can name any significant product of either culture in last,
> >> say, 100 years?
> >Rene Magritte started out designing wall paper in Belgium.

Forgot Magritte! My fav...
Well I doubt HE would cut cultural ties with Israel, where
people live surrealism through :)

> >The he went to Paris around 1924 where he met Giorgio Di
> >Chirico who a few years before started surrealism with Carlo
> >Carra. Magritte became a leading exponent of surrealism
> >becoming better known than either Dali or DiChirico.
> >and that's all folks
> Forgot Paul Delvaux, Constant Permeke, the various painters of the
> school of Latem, James Ensor, among others....

Ah...unsignificant noise.

> Fusti

firefly

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Jan 12, 2002, 3:03:09 PM1/12/02
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Poul wrote:

> lvaughn <lva...@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<11uv3uold14loesf7...@4ax.com>...
>
>>On 11 Jan 2002 12:08:43 -0800, poul...@yahoo.com (Poul) wrote:
>>
>>>How do you harass each other then?
>>>Just curious...My few hours in Belgium were the most boring part of entire
>>>vacation, and that is counting waiting in airports and eating in London
>>>restaurants...
>>>
>>Boy your an insulting pea brain. Too bad countries cannot detect ass
>>holes in advance and keep them out.
>>I have never set foot in Belgium,
>>

> Belgium chocolate is the # 1 seller in the USA.

Sal Khalbar

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Jan 12, 2002, 6:14:15 PM1/12/02
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Poul <poul...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message :
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......................................SNIP..................................
..........

> How do you harass each other then?
> Just curious...My few hours in Belgium were the most boring part of entire
> vacation, and that is counting waiting in airports and eating in London
> restaurants...

If you don't like it, you can stay away...
Sure, Belgians will not miss you !!!


Jgarbuz

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Jan 12, 2002, 6:30:35 PM1/12/02
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With almost the same amount of "chutzpeh? :)

poul...@yahoo.com (Poul) wrote in message news:<6de3d876.02011...@posting.google.com>...

Red Herring

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Jan 12, 2002, 7:15:49 PM1/12/02
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:36:33 GMT, "Jeff Charlier" <jef.ch...@pandora.be>
wrote:

>
>What is Belgian culture ?
>It's a country with two cultures : flemish and walloon.
>Although we don't agree 100%, we don't steel land from the other.
>And we neither use F16's, bulldozers and lawyers-speakmen to harrass the
>other.

Must be because you are too busy kidnapping your neighbors' children, raping
them, and burying them in your pretty backyards.


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Albert Reingewirtz

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Jan 12, 2002, 8:11:50 PM1/12/02
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In article <3c42d05b....@news.easynews.com>,
r...@gulfstream.org.NOSPAM (Red Herring) wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:36:33 GMT, "Jeff Charlier" <jef.ch...@pandora.be>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >What is Belgian culture ?
> >It's a country with two cultures : flemish and walloon.
> >Although we don't agree 100%, we don't steel land from the other.
> >And we neither use F16's, bulldozers and lawyers-speakmen to harrass the
> >other.
>
> Must be because you are too busy kidnapping your neighbors' children, raping
> them, and burying them in your pretty backyards.
>
>

Wrong answer! The SOB's have raped and despoiled the Congo to the point
that it may never recover. When anyone speaks of stealing someone's land
it is the height of hutzpah. The absolute worst colonial regime on the
planet and historically has been Belgiums Congo. They destroyed
families, tribes. They sucked out resources of the Congo while enslaving
the population to mine and cut the virgin forest. Belgium is still
benefitting from it's ownership in the past of the vast Congo. When
Belgium pays reparations and apologize to their victims then maybe will
Belgians have a right to speak and then only after they do not single
out Israel in their antisemitism while being silent about slavery in
Sudan, the Hama massacre,, the Halabja massacre and the Kurds still
waiting to get their ancestral land they deserve to get ever since they
were promised by Europeans.


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Poul

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Jan 12, 2002, 10:57:05 PM1/12/02
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j.ga...@att.net (Jgarbuz) wrote in message news:<567d4443.02011...@posting.google.com>...

> With almost the same amount of "chutzpeh? :)

Of course there is, with so many Russians now in Israel :)))

(running for cover :)

> poul...@yahoo.com (Poul) wrote in message

Poul

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Jan 12, 2002, 11:04:07 PM1/12/02
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"Sal Khalbar" <caramel@mou> wrote in message news:<3c40c483$0$75152$ba62...@news.skynet.be>...

> Poul <poul...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message :
> 6de3d876.02011...@posting.google.com...
> > How do you harass each other then?
> > Just curious...My few hours in Belgium were the most boring part of entire
> > vacation, and that is counting waiting in airports and eating in London
> > restaurants...
> If you don't like it, you can stay away...

sure as hell i will

> Sure, Belgians will not miss you !!!

they will miss my money

F u s t i g a t o r

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Jan 13, 2002, 3:55:28 AM1/13/02
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Vitae forma vocatur, Albert Reingewirtz <alb...@nethere.com>, die Sat,
12 Jan 2002 17:11:50 -0800, in littera
<albert-8306D9....@corp.supernews.com> in foro

soc.culture.belgium (et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>In article <3c42d05b....@news.easynews.com>,

As an Israeli, you should first clean your own garden before pointing
your finger at other people, for facts the present day generations are
not responsible of.

Fusti
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Le Mod Pol

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Jan 13, 2002, 3:31:21 AM1/13/02
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Albert Reingewirtz wrote:
>
> In article <3C3FC457...@email.com>,
> Le Mod Pol <mod...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > Poul wrote:
> >
> > Flanders had a great number of fine artists that produced
> > really grand work but that was 400 to 600 years ago
> >
> > > And you can name any significant product of either culture in last,
> > > say, 100 years?
> > >
> > Rene Magritte started out designing wall paper in Belgium.
> > The he went to Paris around 1924 where he met Giorgio Di
> > Chirico who a few years before started surrealism with Carlo
> > Carra. Magritte became a leading exponent of surrealism
> > becoming better known than either Dali or DiChirico.
> >
> > and that's all folks
> >

> Better known than Chirico? I don't think so!

Today - definitely almost everyone can think of a Magritte
(like the green apple) but everyone has forgotten the
teacher Georgio De Chirico.

When I met De Chirico in NY about 1972/3 he had a show in
the Huntington Hartford Museum. No one, museum or gallery
would show him. He was forgotten because most of the work he
showed was terrible. People only remembered his Alitalia posters

I only saw 5 pieces out of perhaps 100 that were worth
coming to see. All five were of the oldest work - 2 of his
wild eyed horses and 3 self portraits. I had a very
interesting chat with de Chirico with him standing in front
of two self portraits -- eerie!!!! (He set up that show to
create cash for his daughter ... he had given her all of his
unsold work. He died 5 years later

Gunther

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Jan 19, 2002, 12:44:42 PM1/19/02
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Hi,

1. It is the Flemish Federal government that decided this, not Belgium
as a whole.

2. That also does not mean that the Flemish population is in consensus
with this decision. I for one am not.

Regards

Belgian (Flemish) citizen.

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