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Dec 29, 2001, 11:46:59 AM12/29/01
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Classic Repost from 9/27/1998 (Not all links may be active today. This is
archival material showing how Universities were infested with communism at that
time using material which was available at the time.)
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Subject: Re: Marxist polisci
From: Robert Lundquist <Robert.L...@ies.luth.se>
Date: 1997/10/30
Message-ID: <pgpmoose.1997...@james.stud.ntnu.no>
Newsgroups: soc.politics.marxism

Peter LaVenia wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what university in the U.S. has a strong Marxist
> Political Science department, or at least one that has Marxist leanings
> and teaches the subject well?
> --

Some months ago I read a book by Bertell Ollman at New York
University, "Alienation: Marx's conception of man in capitalist
society" published in 1976, which was really good. As far as I know,
Ollman is still active at NYU.

Robert Lundquist
Lulea
Sweden

~~~~~~~ End of Archival Post~~~~~~~

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Subject: >>Did Andrew Mathis Pickup His "Socialism" at NYU?<<
Dedicated to Yale Edeiken and His Fellow Socialists\Communists
From: doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish)
Date: 1998/04/14
Message-ID: <3532bbcd....@news.tavish-central.net>

[...]

http://pages.nyu.edu/clubs/socialists/

An organization for democratic socialist activism at
New York University

Socialists at NYU is a vibrant group of individuals who study or teach
at NYU. We are united by the desire for a society in which all people
can enjoy democratic control over all aspects of their life, and an
equal opportunity to have meaningful social and economic
relationships. We are active and visible on the NYU Campus and in our
community.

[Notice: "Socialists at NYU is a vibrant group of individuals who
study or TEACH at NYU." Gunther Schiller]

Didn't Comrade Allan Matthews say at one time?
>Hey Scottie, campuses are nothing but buildings and grounds. A campus
>can't condon or spread anything, except maybe crabgrass. Your pathetic
>grasp of English once again makes it clear that you certainly didn't have
>the mental capacity to get through the 6th grade.

I wish I could be as smart as Comrade Allan Matthews!

Look at what is being taught on campus!

http://pages.nyu.edu/clubs/socialists/guide.html

Introduction to Socialists at NYU

Socialists at NYU is an all-campus club involved in political action
from a democratic socialist perspective. This club is for students and
faculty at NYU who want to participate in our educational and activist
work.

[Notice again: "This club is for students and faculty at NYU who want
to participate in our educational and activist work." The faculty is involved!
What else needs to be said!?!?! Tavish]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here is Andrew Mathis admitting to Marxist influence right on campus! Thank you
Andrew for not being as hard headed as Allan Matthews! He denies Marxist
indoctrination in American universities.

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Subject: Tavish Idiocy for April
From: aem...@is2.nyu.edu
Date: 1998/05/03
Message-ID: <6iiqfp$ok0$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>

Tavish has only introduced one new piece of idiocy this month worth
addressing: That NYU is a "Marxist" university because there is a Marxist on the
faculty.

First, most schools have Marxists on the faculty: either in the Economics dept.,
the Philosophy dept. or both.

Second, NYU has one of the finest business schools in the country, the Leonard
N. Stern School of Business, endowed by the CEO of the Hartz Corporation
(manufacturer of pet products), who is a graduate of this school. Stern sends
hundreds of students each year to Wall Street, and its finance dept. is
considered the fifth best in the nation. It is a bastion of capitalism. The Law
School is also primarily concerned with corporate law given its proximity to the
World Financial Center.

Get a clue, Doc.

Andrew Mathis

-----== Posted via Deja News ==-----

Be sure to read these links as well:

http://x6.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=343776554
Subject: >>Did Andrew Mathis Pickup His "Socialism" at NYU?<< Dedicated to
Yale Edeiken and His Fellow Socialists\Communists
From: doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish)
Date: 1998/04/14
Message-ID: <3532bbcd....@news.tavish-central.net>

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Subject: Product of American University System in Denial (was Soviet style
smear Re: "Sieg Heil" Scottie once more parades his ignorance and libels for all
to see)
From: doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish)
Date: 1998/04/21
Message-ID: <353d1236....@news.tavish-central.net>

Tavish

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From: osugeo...@aol.com (Osugeography)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 30 Dec 2001 01:51:18 GMT
References: <3c2df368.505919510@tavish-central>
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Subject: Re: NYU Has Socialists/Marxists in Faculty. They Promote Their Agenda
as Well.
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On 30 Dec 2001 01:51:18 GMT, <20011229205118...@mb-cf.aol.com>
osugeo...@aol.com (Osugeography) wrote:

>Mr. Bradbury:
>
> Your "classic post" of 1998 does nothing to show that "Universities were
>infested with communism at that time."

So you say!

>You confuse Marxism, socialism, and democratic socialism with communism.

I know that socialism is just a stepping stone to communism and besides-- the
former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics had nothing to do with socialism
seeing how they were a communist totalitarian conglomerate!

Also consider this:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=0s23tt8qmduu3idu0dcsqtr27dubkobvma%404ax.com
Subject: Re: Keith Morrison Proves My Point! Most of Our Opposition Are
"Agnostic/Atheist" akaRe: Does Lomenzo lie like this in its professional life?
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 10:02:50 -0500
Message-ID: <0s23tt8qmduu3idu0...@4ax.com>

On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:53:09 -0600, <3BD14985...@polarnet.ca> Keith
Morrison <kei...@polarnet.ca> wrote:

>"Doc Tavish®" wrote:
>
>> Has everyone noticed the common traits of these "agnostic/atheists"?
>> They never condemn communism/socialism
:
>We'll ignore your inability to differentiate the two for a moment...

I know the differences which are few BUT as common they advocate redistribution
of wealth and a large centralized government. They are also opposed or in
opposition of private property. Some people even claim that socialism is a
transition stage to communism.

Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems ...
... Socialism is the first step in the process of ... It is the necessary
transition stage from capitalism to communism. ...
www.marxmail.org/faq/socialism_and_communism.htm

Visions of Socialism
... 2. TRANSITION SOCIALISM = CRUDE COMMUNISM. -marxism-leninism - "orthodox"
socialism -transition stage from capitalism to "true communism" ...
Description: Notes explaining different varieties of socialism.
Category: Society > Politics > Socialism
www.ssc.upenn.edu/~szyrmer/e95f/e95f.notes.socialism.html

ISG - EMA - Communism
... That vision of transition towards communism as ... stage, generally called
‘socialism’, in which ... a higher stage, generally called ‘communism’, in which
... Description: Short essay by Ernest Mandel tracing the history of the
concept. Category: Society > Politics > Socialism > Marxism > Theorists >
Mandel, Ernest
www.zoo.co.uk/~z8001063/International-Socialist-Group/EMA/EMA%20-%20Comm.htm

Communism/Socialism vs Capitalism
... capitalism as the first stage followed by socialism ... Communism in Russia:
... To achieve the transition from Capitalism to socialism and finally communism
... www.unimelb.edu.au/tisp/kids/vm/julien/j-ism.html

Workers Power Global | Marxism for Beginners
... Transition to communism. ... refined the concept of a “transition society”
and introduced the ... phases. In the first stage, “socialism” as he called it
... www.workerspower.com/wpglobal/transitiontocommunism.html

http://www.pg.net/users/c/charconet/to_each_according.htm
"To each according to her needs"
by David Schwartzman, geologist at Howard University, Washington, D.C.
Taken from: Committtee of Correspondence
http://garnet.berkeley.edu:3333/.left/CoC/.dandi/.di4/.di4.08.htm

The stimulus for writing this essay came out of the ongoing effort within the
left to reconstitute a new vision of socialism. To date, I find a healthy
openness to new ways of thinking about the relation of democracy to the
socialist project, and a renewed committment to struggle "in the long haul".
However, except for the attempts at scientific utopias [1] in the Green and
futurist literature, there is little in the new declarations of socialists [2]
that excites the imagination. This short-coming will surely be a handicap in
attracting youth. We are not being as "radical as reality itself", to borrow a
phrase from Lenin. [3] The ecological question is still being relegated to a
laundry list of needs and demands, instead of being at the heart of our vision.
And, in the apparent desire to avoid alienating potential recruits, many
marxists/ socialists are avoiding the "C" word (Communism) like the plague.

Let us recall for a moment Marx and Engels' concept of socialism as the lower
stage of communism and, thus, a transition between capitalism and the higher
stage of communism..... <end>

WHAT HAVE YOU TO SAY NOW KEITH?

I say TOUCHE'

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

In other words don't give me the Neo-Bolshevist line about socialism and
communism being entirely separate!

>One of the best short refutations of why not to be a traditional Marxist is
>given by a democratic socialist, Martin Gardner in his book "The Whys of a
>Philosophcal Scrivener" in the chapter, Why I am not a Marxist.

Here is what Jewess Lucy Dawidowicz wrote concerning the political agenda of
"democratic socialists" or whatever euphemism they try to hide behind:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=10&selm=58acbi%24d6s%241%40gryphon.phoenix.net
Subject: Proof of Jewry's Involvement With Communism!
Date: 1996/12/06
Message-ID: <58acbi$d6s$1...@gryphon.phoenix.net

Lucy S. Dawidowicz: THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS 1933-1945
by Bantam Books Incorporated (#13084-6, 1979 ed). The book's
"Acknowledgements" starts with: "This book had its genesis in a course I
developed at the suggestion of Rabbi David Mirsky, Dean of Stern College
for Women, Yeshiva University (New York, New York 10033-3201). ...I am
indebted to the Yivo Institute for Jewish Research, the Blaustein
Library of the American Jewish Committee..."

On page 55, Ms. Dawidowicz declares: "In 1890, the first
election after the expiration of (Germany's) Bismarck's anti-socialist
law the Social Democrats amassed over 1.4 million votes... the ideology
of the Social Democratic movement interpreted all economic, social, and
political phenomena in terms of an all encompassing Marxist theory." We
also see that the majority of Jews were allied with this movement on
page 228: "... about 2/3rds of the Jews voted for the Social Democrats.

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

We also see that the Communist Party supports Democrats and also that the
Democratic Socialists of America is steeped in Marxist ideology as this archive
proves:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=3c2df97e.507477185%40tavish-central
Subject: Communist Party USA Backed Democrats! (Their Own Words Too!)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:31:04 GMT
Organization: Tavish Central
Message-ID: <3c2df97e.507477185@tavish-central>

The above more or less proves that socialism and communism go together like
peanut butter and jelly!

> There are self-described Marxist geographers - Peet and Mitchell come to
>mind, but for you to generalize and call them communists is certainly
>inappropriate.

Let the readers decide for themselves!

> I welcome your comments.

I gave them above and please do not delete from your replies the news groups I
posted my original article to nor the original contents of my article. Don't you
want as many people as possible to compare what you say to what I say?

I restored the original news groups and for the sake of the archives and the
people who will view them I restore what I originally posted just below.

Doc Tavish
>Regards,
>Marvin Sebourn
>osugeo...@aol.com

Special note: In this reply post I will renew, to the best of my ability, any
old dead links with new working links which I did not do in the original repost
of 12/29/2001.

NYU Has Socialists/Marxists in Faculty. They Promote Their Agenda as Well.
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:46:59 GMT
Organization: Tavish Central
Message-ID: <3c2df368.505919510@tavish-central>
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Classic Repost from 9/27/1998 (Not all links may be active today. This is
archival material showing how Universities were infested with communism at that
time using material which was available at the time.)
alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.usa.republican

http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=285947553
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http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=pgpmoose.1997...@james.stud.ntnu.no&num=20&hl=en


Subject: Re: Marxist polisci
From: Robert Lundquist <Robert.L...@ies.luth.se>
Date: 1997/10/30
Message-ID: <pgpmoose.1997...@james.stud.ntnu.no>
Newsgroups: soc.politics.marxism

Peter LaVenia wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what university in the U.S. has a strong Marxist
> Political Science department, or at least one that has Marxist leanings
> and teaches the subject well?
> --

Some months ago I read a book by Bertell Ollman at New York
University, "Alienation: Marx's conception of man in capitalist
society" published in 1976, which was really good. As far as I know,
Ollman is still active at NYU.

Robert Lundquist
Lulea
Sweden

~~~~~~~ End of Archival Post~~~~~~~

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[...]

http://pages.nyu.edu/clubs/socialists/

http://pages.nyu.edu/clubs/socialists/guide.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Subject: Tavish Idiocy for April
From: aem...@is2.nyu.edu
Date: 1998/05/03
Message-ID: <6iiqfp$ok0$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>

Tavish has only introduced one new piece of idiocy this month worth
addressing: That NYU is a "Marxist" university because there is a Marxist on the
faculty.

First, most schools have Marxists on the faculty: either in the Economics dept.,
the Philosophy dept. or both.

Second, NYU has one of the finest business schools in the country, the Leonard
N. Stern School of Business, endowed by the CEO of the Hartz Corporation
(manufacturer of pet products), who is a graduate of this school. Stern sends
hundreds of students each year to Wall Street, and its finance dept. is
considered the fifth best in the nation. It is a bastion of capitalism. The Law
School is also primarily concerned with corporate law given its proximity to the
World Financial Center.

Get a clue, Doc.

Andrew Mathis

-----== Posted via Deja News ==-----

Be sure to read these links as well:

http://x6.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=343776554
NEW LINK 12/29/2001:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=3532bbcd....@news.tavish-central.net&num=20&hl=en


Subject: >>Did Andrew Mathis Pickup His "Socialism" at NYU?<< Dedicated to
Yale Edeiken and His Fellow Socialists\Communists
From: doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish)
Date: 1998/04/14
Message-ID: <3532bbcd....@news.tavish-central.net>

http://x6.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=346429660
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