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O.pearl

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Kathy Freston
Author, Health and Wellness Expert
Posted: September 24, 2009 08:34 AM

A Cure For Cancer? Eating A Plant-Based Diet

Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
Cure For Cancer, Health, Kathy Freston, Nutrition, Plant-Based Diet,
Preventative Medicine, T. Colin Campbell, Living News

I have been working closely recently with a few extraordinary nutritional researchers,
and I find that the information they have compiled is quite eye opening. Interestingly,
what these highly esteemed doctors are saying is just beginning to be understood and
accepted, perhaps because what they are saying does not conveniently fit in with or
support the multi-billion dollar food industries that profit from our "not knowing".
One thing is for sure: we are getting sicker and more obese than our health care system
can handle, and the conventional methods of dealing with disease often have harmful
side effects and are ineffective for some patients.

As it is now, one out of every two of us will get cancer or heart disease and die from it -
an ugly and painful death as anyone who has witnessed it can attest. And starting in the
year 2000, one out of every three children who are born after that year will develop
diabetes--a disease that for most sufferers (those with Type 2 diabetes) is largely
preventable with lifestyle changes. This is a rapidly emerging crisis, the seriousness of
which I'm not sure we have yet recognized. The good news is, the means to prevent
and heal disease seems to be right in front of us; it's in our food. Quite frankly, our
food choices can either kill us - which mounting studies say that they are, or they can
lift us right out of the disease process and into soaring health.

In the next few months, I will share a series of interviews I've conducted with the
preeminent doctors and nutritional researchers in the fields of their respective expertise.
And here it is straight out: they are all saying the same thing in different ways and
through multiple and varying studies: animal protein seems to greatly contribute to
diseases of nearly every type; and a plant-based diet is not only good for our health,
but it's also curative of the very serious diseases we face .

Cancer

On the subject of cancer, I've asked Dr. T. Colin Campbell, Professor Emeritus of
Cornell University and author of the groundbreaking The China Study to explain how
cancer happens and what we can do to prevent and reverse it. Dr. Campbell's work
is regarded by many as the definitive epidemiological examination of the relationship
between diet and disease. He has received more than 70 grant years of peer-
reviewed research funding, much of which was funded by the U.S. National Institutes
of Health (NIH), and he has authored more than 300 research papers. He grew up
on a dairy farm believing in the great health value of animal protein in the American
diet and set out in his career to investigate how to produce more and better animal
protein. Troublesome to his preconceived hypothesis of the goodness of dairy,
Dr. Campbell kept running up against results that consistently proved an emerging
and comprehensive truth: that animal protein is disastrous to human health.

Through a variety of experimental study designs, epidemiological evidence, along
with observation of real life conditions which had rational biological explanation,
Dr. Campbell has made a direct and powerful correlation between cancer (and
other diseases and illnesses) and animal protein. Following is a conversation I had
with him so that I could better understand the association.

KF: What happens in the body when cancer develops? What is the actual process?

TCC: Cancer generally develops over a long period of time, divided into 3 stages,
initiation, promotion and progression.

Initiation occurs when chemicals or other agents attack the genes of normal cells to
produce genetically modified cells capable of eventually causing cancer. The body
generally repairs most such damage but if the cell reproduces itself before it is
repaired, its new (daughter) cell retains this genetic damage. This process may occur
within minutes and, to some extent, is thought to be occurring most of the time in
most of our tissues.

Promotion occurs when the initiated cells continue to replicate themselves and grow
into cell masses that eventually will be diagnosed. This is a long growth phase
occurring over months or years and is known to be reversible.

Progression occurs when the growing cancer masses invade neighboring tissues
and/or break away from the tissue of origin (metastasis) and travel to distant tissues
when they are capable of growing independently at which point they are considered
to be malignant.

KF: Why do some people get cancer, and other don't? What percentage is genetic,
and what percentage has to do with diet?

TCC: Although the initiated cells are not considered to be reversible, the cells growing
through the promotion stage are usually considered to be reversible, a very exciting
concept. This is the stage that especially responds to nutritional factors. For example,
the nutrients from animal based foods, especially the protein, promote the development
of the cancer whereas the nutrients from plant-based foods, especially the antioxidants,
reverse the promotion stage. This is a very promising observation because cancer
proceeds forward or backward as a function of the balance of promoting and anti-
promoting factors found in the diet, thus consuming anti-promoting plant-based foods
tend to keep the cancer from going forward, perhaps even reversing the promotion.
The difference between individuals is almost entirely related to their diet and lifestyle
practices.

Although all cancer and other diseases begin with genes, this is not the reason
whether or not the disease actually appears. If people do the right thing during the
promotion stage, perhaps even during the progression stage, cancer will not appear
and if it does, might even be resolved. Most estimates suggest that not more than
2-3 percent of cancers are due entirely to genes; almost all the rest is due to diet
and lifestyle factors. Consuming plant based foods offers the best hope of avoiding
cancer, perhaps even reversing cancer once it is diagnosed. Believing that cancer is
attributed to genes is a fatalistic idea but believing that cancer can be controlled by
nutrition is a far more hopeful idea.

KF: You said that initially something attacks the genes, chemicals or other agents;
like what?

TCC: Cancer, like every other biological event--good or bad--begins with genes.
In the case of cancer, gene(s) that give rise to cancer either may be present when
we are born or, during our lifetimes, normal genes may be converted into cancer
genes by certain highly reactive chemicals (i.e., carcinogens).

Consider 'cancer genes' as seeds that grow into tumor masses only if they are 'fed'.
The 'feeding' comes from wrongful nutrition. It's like growing a lawn. We plant seeds
but they don't grow into grass (or weeds) unless they are provided water, sunlight
and nutrients. So it is with cancer. In reality, we are planting seeds all of our lifetime
although some may be present at birth, not only for cancer but also for other events
as well. But this mostly does not matter unless we 'nourish' their growth.

The chemicals that create these cancer genes are called 'carcinogens'. Most
carcinogens of years past have been those that attack normal genes to give cancer
genes. These are initiating carcinogens, or initiators. But more recently, carcinogens
also may be those that promote cancer growth. They are promoting carcinogens, or
promoters.

Our work showed that casein is the most relevant cancer promoter ever discovered.

Aside from chemicals initiating or promoting cancer, other agents such as cosmic rays
(energetic particles) from the sun or from the outer reaches of space may impact our
genes to cause them to change (i.e., mutate) so that they could give rise to cancer
'seeds'. The most important point to consider is that we cannot do much about
preventing initiation but we can do a lot about preventing promotion. The initiating
idea is fatalistic and outside of our control but the promotion idea is hopeful because
we can change our exposure to promoting agents and reverse the cancer process,
thus is within our control.

KF: What exactly is so bad about animal protein?

TCC: I don't choose the word "exactly" because it suggests something very specific.
Rather, casein causes a broad spectrum of adverse effects.

Among other fundamental effects, it makes the body more acidic, alters the mix of
hormones and modifies important enzyme activities, each of which can cause a broad
array of more specific effects. One of these effects is its ability to promote cancer
growth (by operating on key enzyme systems, by increasing hormone growth factors
and by modifying the tissue acidity). Another is its ability to increase blood cholesterol
(by modifying enzyme activities) and to enhance atherogenesis, which is the early stage
of cardiovascular disease.

And finally, although these are casein-specific effects, it should be noted that other
animal-based proteins are likely to have the same effect as casein.

KF: Ok, so I am clear that it's wise to avoid casein, which is intrinsic in dairy (milk and
cheese), but how is other animal protein, such as chicken, steak, or pork, implicated in
the cause and growth of cancer?

TCC: I would first say that casein is not just "intrinsic" but IS THE MAIN PROTEIN
OF COW MILK, REPRESENTING ABOUT 87% OF THE MILK PROTEIN.

The biochemical systems which underlie the adverse effects of casein are also common
to other animal-based proteins. Also, the amino acid composition of casein, which is
the characteristic primarily responsible for its property, is similar to most other animal-
based proteins. They all have what we call high 'biological value', in comparison, for
example, with plant-based proteins, which is why animal protein promotes cancer
growth and plant protein doesn't.

KF: Isn't anything in moderation ok, as long as we don't overdo it?

TCC: I rather like the expression told by my friend, Caldwell Esselstyn, Jr., MD, the
Cleveland Clinic surgeon who reversed heart disease and who says, "Moderation kills!"
I prefer to go the whole way, not because we have fool-proof evidence showing that
100% is better than, say, 95% for every single person for every single condition but
that it is easier to avoid straying off on an excursion that too often becomes a slippery
slope back to our old ways. Moreover, going the whole way allows us to adapt to new
unrealized tastes and to rid ourselves of some old addictions. And finally, moderation
often means very different things for different people.

KF: Are you saying that if one changes their diet from animal based protein to plant-
based protein that the disease process of cancer can be halted and reversed?

TCC: Yes, this is what our experimental research shows. I also have become aware of
many anecdotal claims by people who have said that their switch to a plant-based diet
stopped even reversed (cured?) their disease. One study on melanoma has been
published in the peer-reviewed literature that shows convincing evidence that cancer
progression is substantially halted with this diet.

KF: How long does it take to see changes?

TCC: It is not clear because carefully designed research in humans has not been done.
However, we demonstrated and published findings showing that experimental
progression of disease is at least suspended, even reversed, when tumors are clearly
present.

KF: Consider a person who has been eating poorly his whole life; is there still hope
that a dietary change can make a big difference? Or is everything already in motion?

TCC: Yes, a variety of evidence shows that cancers and non-cancers alike can be
stopped even after consuming a poor diet earlier in life. This effect is equivalent to
treatment, a very exciting concept.

KF: This is sounding like it's a cure for cancer; is that the case?
TCC: Yes. The problem in this area of medicine is that traditional doctors are so
focused on the use of targeted therapies (chemo, surgery, radiation) that they refuse
to even acknowledge the use of therapies like nutrition and are loathe to even want
to do proper research in this area. So, in spite of the considerable evidence--
theoretical and practical--to support a beneficial nutritional effect, every effort will
be made to discredit it. It's a self-serving motive.

KF: What else do you recommend one does to avoid, stop, or reverse cancer?

TCC: A good diet, when coupled with other health promoting activities like exercise,
adequate fresh air and sunlight, good water and sleep, will be more beneficial. The
whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

For help on how to lean into a plant based diet, check out my blog post here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-freston/one-bite-at-a-time-a-begi_b_42211.html ;
and for recipes click here.
http://www.meatlessmonday.com/category/recipes-by-week/

For more information about diet and cancer, visit http://www.tcolincampbell.org/

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D. C. Sessions

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In message <WDnwm.30177$j7.4...@news.indigo.ie>, O.pearl wrote:

> A Cure For Cancer? Eating A Plant-Based Diet

Therefore obligate herbivores (e.g. elk) don't get cancer.

Oh, wait ...

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O.pearl

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x-post restored....

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> In message <WDnwm.30177$j7.4...@news.indigo.ie>, O.pearl wrote:
>
>> A Cure For Cancer? Eating A Plant-Based Diet
>
> Therefore obligate herbivores (e.g. elk) don't get cancer.
>
> Oh, wait ...

For how long? .....

That is, were you going to show us some studies to look at .. ?

Happy Oyster

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:07:08 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>Huffington Post
>Kathy Freston
>Author, Health and Wellness Expert
>Posted: September 24, 2009 08:34 AM
>
>A Cure For Cancer? Eating A Plant-Based Diet
>
>Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,

That is crap.
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Interview mit dem Autor der "Reimbibel"

http://www.nrhz.de/flyer/beitrag.php?id=14183

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:1tg4c5pp9jvg5vauf...@4ax.com...

>>Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
> That is crap.

c-a-n-c- More...

'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk

� The Cancer Project

Health-conscious consumers often choose grilled chicken over fried chicken,
but grilled chicken - as well as other grilled meats - can increase the risk
of cancer.

Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
rates, compared with people who avoid meat. But now we also know that
grilled meats pose a unique threat. Cancer-causing chemicals called
heterocyclic amines (HCAs) have been found in chicken and other meats,
and the very highest concentrations occur when these products are grilled.

Grilling meat, especially chicken, produces carcinogenic HCAs, which are
formed from the creatinine, amino acids, and sugar found in muscle tissue.
More HCAs are produced by long cooking times and hot temperatures,
which make grilling, pan frying, and oven broiling particularly dangerous
cooking methods.

The federal government added HCAs to its list of carcinogens in January
2005. But most Americans remain unaware that these compounds lurk in
cooked meat. As known mutagens, HCAs can bind directly to DNA and
cause mutations, the first step in the development of cancer.

Grilling is also problematic because when fat from meat drips onto an open
flame, carcinogens called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) form
and are deposited back onto the meat through smoke.

Scientists have discovered more than 16 different HCAs. One type
commonly found in grilled meats is PhIP, which has been on California's
list of cancer-causing chemicals for more than a decade. Scientists have
not determined a safe consumption level of PhIP, meaning that any
amount is believed to potentially increase cancer risk.

Recent studies have shown that the consumption of well-done meat, which
contains PhIP and other HCAs, is associated with an increased risk for
colon, rectal, esophageal, lung, larynx, pancreatic, prostate, stomach, and
breast cancer, and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.

In a recent review of 30 epidemiologic studies on the link between eating
well-done meat and cancer at various sites, 80 percent of the studies
showed a positive correlation. HCAs have also been specifically linked
to colorectal cancer: One review found that high cooking temperature
increased colon cancer risk almost two fold and increased risk for rectal
cancer by 60 percent.

Meat cooked at high temperatures may also increase the risk of pancreatic
cancer, according to a study presented at the American Association for
Cancer Research annual meeting. In this nine-year study, researchers
analyzed information on meat consumption and preferred cooking methods
for 62,581 participants. Participants who cooked meat at high temperatures
and consumed more well-done meat had about a 60 percent higher risk of
pancreatic cancer, compared with other people.

Many people switch to chicken and fish, believing these to be healthier
alternatives to beef. But that is not the case. Grilled chicken produces more
than 10 times the amount of the carcinogenic HCAs found in grilled beef.
Furthermore, nearly all the HCAs detected are in the form of PhIP, which
has specifically been implicated in breast cancer risk. Fish also contains
significant amounts of creatine, one of the other main ingredients for the
formation of the carcinogens.

HCAs are not the only cancer risk that comes from eating meat. Countries
with a higher fat intake, especially fat from animal products, have a higher
incidence of breast cancer. One hypothesized reason is that low-fiber,
high-fat foods increase the amount of estrogen in the bloodstream, which
encourages breast cancer cell growth. A similar phenomenon can occur
when men eat high-fat fare, leading to a higher risk of prostate cancer.

The consumption of meat and other fatty foods is strongly linked to colon
cancer. Recent studies have shown that red meat - even red meat cooked
at a low temperature - can increase colon cancer risk by as much as 300
percent.

These facts seem to pose a dilemma for meat-eating consumers. Cook
chicken or beef too little, and you could easily end up with a bacterial
infection. Turn up the heat enough to kill the bacteria, and you may create
cancer-causing compounds.

There is a healthy - and delicious - alternative. Instead of meat products,
try grilling up a homemade veggie burger or vegetable-and-tofu kebobs.

Since creatine, one of the ingredients for the formation of HCAs, is mostly
found in muscle tissue, it is not surprising that grilled veggie burgers and
other vegetarian foods contain either no HCAs or negligible levels.

Choosing plant-based foods instead of meat also lowers cancer risk in other
ways. Not only are vegetables low in fat and high in fiber, they also contain
many cancer-fighting substances. Carotenoids, the pigment that gives fruits
and vegetables their dark colors, have been shown to help prevent cancer.
Beta-carotene, present in dark green and yellow vegetables, helps protect
against lung cancer and may help prevent cancers of the bladder, mouth,
larynx, esophagus, breast, and other sites. Many studies have found that
diets rich in fruits and vegetables and low in animal fat cut cancer risks.

Want to grill up something healthy? Visit www.CancerProject.org for
delicious vegetarian recipes, information on nutrition and cooking classes,
fact sheets on nutrition and cancer, DVDs, videos, books, and a free copy
of The Cancer Project's booklet Healthy Eating for Life: Food Choices for
Cancer Prevention and Survival.

By Jennifer K. Reilly, R.D.
The Cancer Project

http://www.healthy.net/scr/Column.asp?Id=1114


Happy Oyster

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:44:18 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:1tg4c5pp9jvg5vauf...@4ax.com...
>
>>>Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
>> That is crap.
>
>c-a-n-c- More...
>
>'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk

That is more crap.

To understand it, one has to know a bit more about the rhetorical tricks of the
naturopathic mafia.

One trick is to take some few things, which are true, and then use them to boost
the own sales - by mixing truth and false health claims. Also important is to
spread fear against scientific medicine.

RF

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Sep 29, 2009, 2:40:25 PM9/29/09
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Happy Oyster wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:44:18 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>> "Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:1tg4c5pp9jvg5vauf...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
>>> That is crap.
>> c-a-n-c- More...
>>
>> 'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk
>
> That is more crap.

Yours is the crap!

> To understand it, one has to know a bit more about the rhetorical tricks of the
> naturopathic mafia.
>
> One trick is to take some few things, which are true, and then use them to boost
> the own sales - by mixing truth and false health claims. Also important is to
> spread fear against scientific medicine.

Another brain dead one.

It has been known since the early 1900s that grilling meats adds
carcinogens.

O.pearl

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Sep 29, 2009, 2:43:21 PM9/29/09
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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:d7k4c5d5vavogn7qq...@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:44:18 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:1tg4c5pp9jvg5vauf...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>>Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
>>> That is crap.
>>
>>c-a-n-c- More...
>>
>>'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk
>
> That is more crap.
>
> To understand it, one has to know a bit more about the rhetorical tricks of the
> naturopathic mafia.
>
> One trick is to take some few things, which are true, and then use them to boost
> the own sales - by mixing truth and false health claims. Also important is to
> spread fear against scientific medicine.
> --

Meanwhile.. in the real world..

'Report Favors Cholesterol Drugs, But Doctors Say Diet Is Effective
..
Drug companies also help set the tone in doctors' offices. They enlist
doctors as consultants, even at smaller community hospitals. They pay for
medical conferences like the recent American College of Cardiology
meeting in Orlando, Fla. Pfizer was the leading sponsor there, forking over
$822,000 for the meeting and handing out Lipitor-logo bags to thousands.
Drug salesmen visit doctors' offices, sometimes weekly, paying for pizza
lunches and treating physicians to dinner. It all adds up to a coziness that
makes prescribing drugs feel like the norm.
..
The diet is strictly vegetarian [..] Highmark says it has saved about $17,000
a patient by avoiding bypass operations and angioplasty procedures, ...
..........
http://www.heart-disease-bypass-surgery.com/data/articles/119.htm


Pete

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Sep 29, 2009, 4:33:43 PM9/29/09
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LOL it's like arguing with Ru$h! and the GOP :-)))
In the last year, Ru$h as stated to his listeners that sugar, cigarettes
and processed meats are OK. Personally, I'm OK with this as Darwinism
(something ru$h does not believe) will be back in place and take it's
course. What I have a problem with is having to waste taxpayer's money to
help these people once they become ill.

I'll be paying for their stupidity!

Happy Oyster

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Sep 29, 2009, 4:46:46 PM9/29/09
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That is not the point.

Learn to read!
.

Happy Oyster

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Sep 29, 2009, 4:48:27 PM9/29/09
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:43:21 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>
>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:d7k4c5d5vavogn7qq...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:44:18 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:1tg4c5pp9jvg5vauf...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>>Read More: Animal Protein, Cancer, Cancer Cure, Carcinogens, Casein,
>>>> That is crap.
>>>
>>>c-a-n-c- More...
>>>
>>>'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk
>>
>> That is more crap.
>>
>> To understand it, one has to know a bit more about the rhetorical tricks of the
>> naturopathic mafia.
>>
>> One trick is to take some few things, which are true, and then use them to boost
>> the own sales - by mixing truth and false health claims. Also important is to
>> spread fear against scientific medicine.
>> --
>
>Meanwhile.. in the real world..
>
>'Report Favors Cholesterol Drugs, But Doctors Say Diet Is Effective

Ah, she does it again...

The only REAL WORLD THING I accept: that she stops making false medical claims
in her web-site.
.

O.pearl

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Sep 29, 2009, 5:30:02 PM9/29/09
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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:ejs4c5lvr9kc9mhtb...@4ax.com...

Let's see you cite "false medical claims" or any /ever/ posted, desperado.

Meanwhile... in the /real world/... headlines of recent/current news....

Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
(NaturalNews) Women with estrogen receptor-positive (ER positive)
breast cancer are commonly prescribed the drug tamoxifen because it
blocks the effects of estrogen in breast tissue. In fact, long-term
tamoxifen use among ER positive breast cancer survivors has become a
standard therapy...

Concerns about Dangers from Swine Flu Vaccine Grow
(NaturalNews) Concerns about the safety of the H1N1 vaccine continue
to grow as the government rushes to bring the vaccine to market...

Merck employees had "hit list" of doctors they sought to "neutralize", court
documents reveal (opinion)
(NaturalNews) Previously secret documents that surfaced at a Vioxx court
case in April of this year reveal pharmaceutical giant Merck maintained a
"hit list" of doctors to be "neutralized" for speaking out against Vioxx...

Diabetes Drug Could Cause Pancreatic Cancer
(NaturalNews) The popular diabetes drug sitagliptin (marketed as Januvia)
may increase the risk of pancreatic cancer, according to study conducted
by researchers from the University of California-Los Angeles and published
in the journal Diabetes.

Removing Ovaries Ups Women's Lung Cancer Risk
(NaturalNews) Ovaries, the almond-shaped organs that sit on each side of
the uterus in a woman's pelvis, contain eggs and produce hormones that
control the menstrual cycle...

Researchers Warn Drug-Resistant TB Strains Could Become Widespread
(NaturalNews) US scientists from Vanderbilt University and Australian
researchers from the University of New South Wales (UNSW) and the
University of Western Sydney are separately sounding the alarm about the
rise of tuberculosis (TB) superbugs...

Pesticides Cause Parkinson's Disease
(NaturalNews) A new study just found that Parkinson's disease is linked to
pesticide exposure...

U.S. Pharmaceutical Factories Dumping Huge Quantities of Drugs Into Public
Sewers, Rivers and Waterways
(NaturalNews) In spite of claims by pharmaceutical companies that they do
not discharge their products into the water supply, federal researchers have
discovered that waters downstream of pharmaceutical plants are more
heavily contaminated with drug residue than waters elsewhere in the country...

Home Pesticides Linked to Childhood Cancers
(NaturalNews) Acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL), a malignant disease of
the bone marrow, is the most common cancer diagnosed in children. In fact,
nearly one third of all pediatric cancers are cases of ALL...

Why are so many celebrities dying after chemotherapy?
(NaturalNews) Patrick Swayze's death came as a shock to many people.
But not to his own cancer doctor: They know that the five-year survival rates
of people being treated with chemotherapy for pancreatic cancer are virtually
zero...

more?

Study Finds Breast Cancer Fighting Properties within Mushrooms
(NaturalNews) A recent study published in the International Journal of Cancer
found evidence supporting that mushrooms have breast cancer-fighting
properties.This study was conducted at the University of Western Australia in
Perth. The study included 2,018 Chinese women..

Vitamin C Deficiency May Damage Babies' Mental Development
(NaturalNews) According to the National Institute of Neurological Disorders
and Stroke (NINDS), learning disabilities are disorders that affect the ability
to understand or use spoken or written language, do math calculations,
coordinate movements, or direct attention..

Basil is a Natural Anti-Inflammatory Herb
(NaturalNews) Basil was recently shown to reduce swelling and inflammation
in arthritic patients by about 73 percent, which is on par with commonly used
drugs for arthritis...

Fig Leaves Provide a Natural Health Remedy for Diabetes
by: Barbi Trejo, citizen journalist (NaturalNews) Fig leaves are best known for
treating diabetes, but there are many other uses for the fig leaves...

Sweet Potatoes: Improve Your Health with this Autumn Super Food
(NaturalNews) One of the most nutritious and beneficial foods that you can add
to your diet is also one of the most famous of all the Fall comfort foods - sweet
potatoes.

.................

Happy Oyster

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:30:02 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
>(NaturalNews)

"Naturalnews" is no serious source.

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:8905c5lrenjgpc7ju...@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:30:02 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
>>(NaturalNews)
>
> "Naturalnews" is no serious source.

Says? You? Think ANYONE considers -you- even /remotely/ credible?

'Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
Yesterday at 8:00am

(NaturalNews) Women with estrogen receptor-positive (ER positive) breast
cancer are commonly prescribed the drug tamoxifen because it blocks the effects
of estrogen in breast tissue. In fact, long-term tamoxifen use among ER positive

breast cancer survivors has become a standard therapy. According to the
National Cancer Institute (NCI), side effects of the drug range from hot flashes,
vaginal dryness, joint pain and leg cramps to blood clots, cataracts, strokes and
uterine cancer. Understandably, many women are willing to accept these risks
because they are told tamoxifen decreases their chance for a recurrence of
breast cancer. However, a new study by Christopher Li, M.D., Ph.D., and
colleagues at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center just published online in
the journal Cancer Research seems to reveal the belief that tamoxifen protects
against breast cancer is only partially correct. The drug may also cause certain
breast cancers.

Yes, breast-cancer patients who receive long-term estrogen-blocker tamoxifen
therapy have a 60 percent reduction in their incidence of a second, ER positive
breast cancer -- a common type of breast cancer which tends not to be
aggressive and is responsive to estrogen-blocking therapy. But the new research
shows tamoxifen increases the risk of the women developing a second and far
more dangerous type of breast cancer by a stunning 440 percent.

This type of ER negative cancer develops as a malignant tumor in the breast
opposite, or contralateral, to the initial tumor. It is an aggressive, difficult-to-
treat type of cancer with a poor prognosis. In other words, it is far more likely
to spread and potentially kill.

The new findings by Dr. Li and his research team confirm earlier research
published in 2001 by the same group of researchers which suggested a link
between long-term tamoxifen use and a heightened risk of ER-negative second
cancers. "The earlier study had a number of limitations. For example, we did
not have information on the duration of tamoxifen therapy the women received,"
Li said in a statement to the media. "The current study is larger, is based on
much more detailed data, and is the first study specifically designed to determine
whether tamoxifen use among breast cancer survivors influences their risk of
different types of second breast cancers."

For the new study, the scientists investigated the history of tamoxifen use among
1,103 breast cancer survivors from the Seattle-Puget Sound region. The women
were initially diagnosed between the ages of 40 and 79 with ER positive breast
cancer and 369 of them later developed a second breast cancer. Virtually all of
the women in the study who took adjuvant hormonal therapy were placed on
tamoxifen to block estrogen.

Predictably, Dr. Li says the findings do not mean women should stop taking
tamoxifen therapy if their doctors say they need it. "However, these therapies
have risks, and an increased risk of ER negative second cancer may be one of
them," he said in the media statement.

As covered in NaturalNews previously, research has shown a host of natural
ways women can adjust their diets and lifestyles to help them reduce the risk of
breast cancer. For example, eating mushrooms ( http://www.naturalnews.com/026495_cancer_mushrooms_breast_cancer.html ),
drinking tea
( http://www.naturalnews.com/025634_cancer_breast_cancer_health.html )
and exercising regularly
( http://www.naturalnews.com/026024_cancer_breast_cancer_cancer_risk.html )
are important cancer prevention strategies.

For more information:
http://www.fhcrc.org/about/ne/news/2009/08/25/tamoxifen.html
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/therapy/tamoxifen


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Now, "Happy Oyster", grok that a lot of professional sci.med sorts are
reading this, and possibly wishing that you'd shut the F up already. tssk!

Happy Oyster

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:05:30 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:8905c5lrenjgpc7ju...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:30:02 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>>>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
>>>(NaturalNews)
>>
>> "Naturalnews" is no serious source.
>
>Says? You? Think ANYONE considers -you- even /remotely/ credible?

Attorneys of state use my material... and, in consequence, closed some scam
organizations, including 2 MLM systems.
--
Land under the Sea

http://www.pazifik-netzwerk.org
http://www.pazifik-infostelle.org

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:ge15c51l7ni78ho0o...@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:05:30 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:8905c5lrenjgpc7ju...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:30:02 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
>>>>(NaturalNews)
>>>
>>> "Naturalnews" is no serious source.
>>
>>Says? You? Think ANYONE considers -you- even /remotely/ credible?
>
> Attorneys of state use my material... and, in consequence, closed some scam
> organizations, including 2 MLM systems.

'wow'

<usual dodgy-looking promotional linkses snipped>


Happy Oyster

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You mean this?:

Land under the Sea

http://www.pazifik-netzwerk.org
http://www.pazifik-infostelle.org


They are drowning. And that is nothing to makes jokes about.

Peter Bowditch

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"O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.

And which researchers have made this generalisation? Do they live on
the outside or inside surface of the Earth?

--
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The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

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"O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer

That can't be true, Pearl. Tamoxifen comes from a plant and as you
keep saying, plants cure cancer, not cause it.

O.pearl

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"Peter Bowditch" <myfir...@ratbags.com> wrote in message news:4q35c5pmq7bg9mg0p...@4ax.com...

> "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>Long-term Tamoxifen Use Increases Risk of Aggressive Breast Cancer
>
> That can't be true, Pearl. Tamoxifen comes from a plant and as you
> keep saying, plants cure cancer, not cause it.

'tamoxifen
drug

synthetic hormone, used primarily in the prevention and treatment of
breast cancer, that inhibits the growth-promoting actions of estrogen
in breast cancer cells.

Tamoxifen was first synthesized in 1962 by scientists at the British
pharmaceutical company Imperial Chemical Industries PLC (now
AstraZeneca). The agent (then known as ICI 46474) was subsequently
found to have contraceptive effects in rats and was believed to exert its
effects solely through antiestrogen mechanisms. Thus, tamoxifen was
initially investigated for potential use as a morning-after pill. However,
in the early 1970s, when it was found that tamoxifen had the opposite
effect in humans - it actually increased fertility by stimulating ovulation
in women - research on the agent as a form of contraception was
promptly abandoned.
..'
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/582056/tamoxifen

Pseudoscience.


O.pearl

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Sep 29, 2009, 7:56:36 PM9/29/09
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"Peter Bowditch" <myfir...@ratbags.com> wrote in message news:il35c5tuhcom3o469...@4ax.com...

> "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.
>
> And which researchers have made this generalisation? Do they live on
> the outside or inside surface of the Earth?

B. You really don't want to go there.

A. 'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk

� The Cancer Project

Health-conscious consumers often choose grilled chicken over fried chicken,
but grilled chicken - as well as other grilled meats - can increase the risk
of cancer.

Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer

Happy Oyster

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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:56:36 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>"Peter Bowditch" <myfir...@ratbags.com> wrote in message news:il35c5tuhcom3o469...@4ax.com...
>> "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>>>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>>>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.
>>
>> And which researchers have made this generalisation? Do they live on
>> the outside or inside surface of the Earth?
>
>B. You really don't want to go there.
>
>A. 'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk
>
>� The Cancer Project

And that is crap. Why? Because it is abused for advertising by Carole Hubbard, a
spammer, who makes false medical claims.

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:cv85c51jmn56t7r05...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:56:36 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>"Peter Bowditch" <myfir...@ratbags.com> wrote in message news:il35c5tuhcom3o469...@4ax.com...
>>> "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Researchers have known for years that meat-eaters have higher cancer
>>>>rates, compared with people who avoid meat.
>>>
>>> And which researchers have made this generalisation? Do they live on
>>> the outside or inside surface of the Earth?
>>
>>B. You really don't want to go there.
>>
>>A. 'Grilled Meats And Cancer Risk
>>
>>� The Cancer Project
>
> And that is crap. Why? <nonsense>

ITBDT.

Happy Oyster

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And that is crap.

O.pearl

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Sep 29, 2009, 8:45:58 PM9/29/09
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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:j0a5c5tu67a25ptof...@4ax.com...

Thanks for participating.

O.pearl

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Sep 29, 2009, 8:50:17 PM9/29/09
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http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php

The Cancer Project

Diet and Cancer Research

What we eat and how we treat our bodies on a daily basis have a very powerful effect
on our health and quality of life. Although cancer can affect many different parts of the
body, the foods that prevent cancer and deter cancer growth are generally the same.
Fruits, vegetables, grains, and legumes all have important nutrients and other cancer-
fighting substances like phytochemicals and pectin that strengthen immune function and
destroy cancer-causing substances before they cause harm. Research has shown that
people who eat a diet free of animal products, high in plant foods, and low in fat have
a much lower risk of developing cancer. Search for research and fact sheets on topics
listed below.

Cancer Facts:
Choose One Factors Contributing to Cancer Foods for Cancer Prevention
Meat Consumption and Cancer Risk Research of the Major Killers of Americans
The Roles of Exercise and Stress Management

Research by Cancer Type:
Choose One Breast Cancer Ovarian and Endometrial Cancer
Prostate Cancer Testicular Cancer Lung Cancer Pancreatic Cancer
Colon Cancer Esophageal and Gastric Cancer Lymphoma
Women and Cancer: Opportunities for Prevention

Research on Diet and Cancer:
Choose One Elevated Cancer-Related Hormones Associated with Protein and
Dairy Consumption Alcohol Consumption Increases Cancer Risk Fish Oil
Does Not Prevent Cancer Whole Diet Counts What Is It about Those
Vegetarians? Low-Fat Diet Boosts Immunity The Power of Plants
Tomatoes Attack Cancer Cells Cancer Risk from Animal Organs What
Causes Cancer? DES Dangers May Extend to Grandchildren Cancer Risk
from Dioxin in Meat, Fish, and Dairy Toxic Fish Compound Ends Up in Breast Milk
Milk Consumption and Prostate Cancer

Facts on Healthy Weight Control:
Choose One Low-Fat Study Underscores Need for Dramatic Dietary Changes
Overweight Tied to Certain Cancers Body Mass Index and Breast Cancer Survival
Pancreatic Cancer Linked to Obesity Holiday Weight Gain Stays Year-Round
Lose Weight with Old-Fashion Oatmeal

Nutrition Facts:
Choose One The Antioxidant Defenses Foods and Immunity Iron: The
Double-Edged Sword Fat and Hormonal Effects Heterocyclic Amines Other
Dietary Factors Setting Blame Aside Carotenoids Vitamin E Vitamin C Selenium
Fiber Lycopene Soy Isoflavones Isothioscyanates Other Phytochemicals

http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php

Happy Oyster

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Oh, really?

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:noa5c51mvp370djb2...@4ax.com...

Yes, indeed. Here's a medal. :) It's shiny.

Happy Oyster

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Sep 29, 2009, 10:03:05 PM9/29/09
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:50:17 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

You still abusing others' material for boosting your site.

Happy Oyster

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Sep 29, 2009, 10:05:09 PM9/29/09
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So?

O.pearl

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Sep 29, 2009, 10:14:19 PM9/29/09
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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:m1f5c5ljhc05jmk5k...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:50:17 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>
>>The Cancer Project
>>
>
> You still abusing others' material for boosting your site.

My "site"? You're still abusing this forum, and *real* science.

BD.


Happy Oyster

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Sep 29, 2009, 10:31:01 PM9/29/09
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This is no forum, this is usenet.

What you CALL "real science", is crap.


This is where scientists are: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:ojg5c5pgefe3b7sob...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:14:19 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:m1f5c5ljhc05jmk5k...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:50:17 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>>>
>>>>The Cancer Project
>>>>
>>>
>>> You still abusing others' material for boosting your site.
>>
>>My "site"? You're still abusing this forum, and *real* science.
>
> This is no forum, this is usenet.

n., pl., fo�rums, also fo�ra (f�r'?, for'?).
..
2. A public meeting place for open discussion.
3. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such
as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
..'
http://www.answers.com/forum

> What you CALL "real science", is crap.

I call real science the study of real humans in real life to discover the
real causes and authentic treatment of real disease. You think real
science is study of other species in the lab' with artificially induced
diseases and synthetic chemicals. No wonder the results from your
system are an abysmal failure, and I'm the one with all the answers.

> This is where scientists are: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org

Could that be a more blatantly quackpot festering ground? Doubt it.


Happy Oyster

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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:45:04 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:ojg5c5pgefe3b7sob...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:14:19 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:m1f5c5ljhc05jmk5k...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:50:17 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>>>>
>>>>>The Cancer Project
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You still abusing others' material for boosting your site.
>>>
>>>My "site"? You're still abusing this forum, and *real* science.
>>
>> This is no forum, this is usenet.
>

>n., pl., fo�rums, also fo�ra (f�r'?, for'?).


>..
>2. A public meeting place for open discussion.
>3. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such
>as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
>..'
>http://www.answers.com/forum

That is bullshit.


>> What you CALL "real science", is crap.
>
>I call real science the study of real humans in real life to discover the
>real causes and authentic treatment of real disease. You think real
>science is study of other species in the lab' with artificially induced
>diseases and synthetic chemicals. No wonder the results from your
>system are an abysmal failure, and I'm the one with all the answers.

That is bullshit.


>> This is where scientists are: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org
>
>Could that be a more blatantly quackpot festering ground? Doubt it.

You just proved that all your claims about YOUR kind of science are bullshit.

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:0md7c5hn1uu68cgpc...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:45:04 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:ojg5c5pgefe3b7sob...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:14:19 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:m1f5c5ljhc05jmk5k...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:50:17 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.cancerproject.org/diet_cancer/index.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Cancer Project
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You still abusing others' material for boosting your site.
>>>>
>>>>My "site"? You're still abusing this forum, and *real* science.
>>>
>>> This is no forum, this is usenet.
>>
>>n., pl., fo�rums, also fo�ra (f�r'?, for'?).
>>..
>>2. A public meeting place for open discussion.
>>3. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such
>>as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
>>..'
>>http://www.answers.com/forum
>
> That is bullshit.

That's nonsense.

>>> What you CALL "real science", is crap.
>>
>>I call real science the study of real humans in real life to discover the
>>real causes and authentic treatment of real disease. You think real
>>science is study of other species in the lab' with artificially induced
>>diseases and synthetic chemicals. No wonder the results from your
>>system are an abysmal failure, and I'm the one with all the answers.
>
> That is bullshit.

That's not an argument.

>>> This is where scientists are: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org
>>
>>Could that be a more blatantly quackpot festering ground? Doubt it.
>
> You just proved that all your claims about YOUR kind of science are bullshit.

That's nonsense, and not an argument. Like my new sig'?

--

60 Minutes, Swine Flu Vaccine Warning, 1979 pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm41HQD-SFE

O.pearl

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Oct 1, 2009, 12:07:07 PM10/1/09
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correction

"O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote in message news:o94xm.30218$j7.4...@news.indigo.ie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk6Qfg6RXOg&NR=1 <<

Happy Oyster

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Oct 2, 2009, 9:52:57 AM10/2/09
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That is crap.
--
Schwerer Pfusch Arzneimittelpr�fung

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_amp.htm

Happy Oyster

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Oct 2, 2009, 9:54:05 AM10/2/09
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On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:07:07 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>correction

?

O.pearl

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Oct 3, 2009, 12:05:17 PM10/3/09
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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:gd1cc5dah27bfdsrj...@4ax.com...

ITBDT.

'Public release date: 8-Sep-2009

High fruit and vegetable intake positively correlated with antioxidant status,
cognitive performance

Study of healthy subjects

Amsterdam, September 8, 2009 - Researchers at the Institute of Biochemistry
and Molecular Biology I of the Heinrich-Heine University, D�sseldorf, Germany,
investigated the relationship between fruit and vegetable intake, plasma antioxidant
micronutrient status and cognitive performance in healthy subjects aged 45 to 102
years. Their results, published in the August issue of the Journal of Alzheimer's
Disease, indicated higher cognitive performance in individuals with high daily intake
of fruits and vegetables.

Subjects with a high daily intake (about 400 g) of fruits and vegetables had higher
antioxidant levels, lower indicators of free radical-induced damage against lipids
as well as better cognitive performance compared to healthy subjects of any age
consuming low amounts (< 100 g/day) of fruits and vegetables. Modification of
nutritional habits aimed at increasing intake of fruits and vegetables, therefore,
should be encouraged to lower the prevalence of cognitive impairment.

The work was performed in collaboration with the Department of Pharmacology
at Temple University in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the Department of Geriatrics
at Perugia University, Italy, and the Department of Neurology of the St. Elisabeth
Hospital in Cologne, Germany.

Dr. M. Cristina Polidori, currently at the Department of Geriatrics, Marienhospital
Herne, Ruhr-University of Bochum, Germany, explains: "It is known that there is
a strong association between fruit and vegetable intake and the natural antioxidant
defenses of the body against free radicals. It is also known that bad nutritional
habits increase the risk of developing cognitive impairment with and without
dementia. With this work we show a multiple link between fruit and vegetable
intake, antioxidant defenses and cognitive performance, in the absence of disease
and independent of age. Among other lifestyle habits, it is recommended to improve
nutrition in general and fruit and vegetable intake in particular at any age, beginning
as early as possible. This may increase our chances to remain free of dementia in
advanced age."

These findings are independentof age, gender, body mass index, level of education,
lipid profile and albumin levels, all factors able to influence cognitive and antioxidant
status. The relevance of the findings is also strengthened by the large sample that
included 193 healthy subjects.

Further studies are planned that will include larger subject cohorts, patients with
Alzheimer's disease at different stages and patients with mild cognitive impairment
without dementia.

###

Reference: Polidori MC, Pratico D, Mangialasche F, Mariani E, Aust O, Anlasik T,
Mang N, Pientka L, Stahl W, Sies H, Nelles G. High fruit and vegetable intake is
positively correlated with antioxidant status and cognitive performance in healthy
subjects. J Alzheimers Dis 17:4 (August 2009).

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-09/ip-hf090809.php

Happy Oyster

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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:05:17 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>ITBDT.
>
>'Public release date: 8-Sep-2009
>
>High fruit and vegetable intake positively correlated with antioxidant status,
>cognitive performance
>
>Study of healthy subjects
>
>Amsterdam, September 8, 2009 - Researchers at the Institute of Biochemistry
>and Molecular Biology I of the Heinrich-Heine University, D�sseldorf, Germany,

Oh, with that university I still have a fight...

http://www.klinikskandal.com


Venceremos!
.
--
Altenpflege

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_korr.htm

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:7fuec51uqssd3jp5b...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:05:17 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>ITBDT.
>>
>>'Public release date: 8-Sep-2009
>>
>>High fruit and vegetable intake positively correlated with antioxidant status,
>>cognitive performance
>>
>>Study of healthy subjects
>>
>>Amsterdam, September 8, 2009 - Researchers at the Institute of Biochemistry
>>and Molecular Biology I of the Heinrich-Heine University, D�sseldorf, Germany,
>
> Oh, with that university I still have a fight...
>
> http://www.klinikskandal.com

"no matches found"


Happy Oyster

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Oct 3, 2009, 2:33:23 PM10/3/09
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You should not look for matches nor a cigarette lighter. You should look for the
University of D�sseldorf.
--
Altenpflege

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_korr.htm

Bob Officer

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On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:22:22 +0200, in misc.health.alternative, Happy
Oyster <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:05:17 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>ITBDT.
>>
>>'Public release date: 8-Sep-2009
>>
>>High fruit and vegetable intake positively correlated with antioxidant status,
>>cognitive performance
>>
>>Study of healthy subjects
>>
>>Amsterdam, September 8, 2009 - Researchers at the Institute of Biochemistry
>>and Molecular Biology I of the Heinrich-Heine University, D�sseldorf, Germany,
>
>Oh, with that university I still have a fight...
>
>http://www.klinikskandal.com
>
>
>Venceremos!
>.

I get a error decoding, unsupported Data Compression is used on the
page.

--
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Posting the truth
http://www.skeptics.com.au

Happy Oyster

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On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:36:09 -0700, Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote:

>>http://www.klinikskandal.com

>I get a error decoding, unsupported Data Compression is used on the
>page.

Strange. The URL is okay. Which browser do you use?

Just scroll down the page. The top is not by me, but by the hoster.
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In message <oa6fc5di84i81hj0q...@4ax.com>, Bob Officer wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:22:22 +0200, in misc.health.alternative, Happy
> Oyster <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote:

>>Oh, with that university I still have a fight...
>>
>>http://www.klinikskandal.com
>

> I get a error decoding, unsupported Data Compression is used on the
> page.

Works fine here, jpg image on Firefox/Linux

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| chance that someone will see the light. |
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O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:516fc59bhakrn2rvu...@4ax.com...

No matches with any of the researchers mentioned in the article that's posted.

From what I can make out, you've a problem with a Dr. Pfitzer of the University
of Dusseldorf because of his and others 'verification' of some proposed theory.

Nothing whatsoever to do with the research posted. You've no valid argument.


Happy Oyster

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You are talking crap.

The university is the problem, because the university as wole did not stop
Pfitzer and it did not stop Stemmann.
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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:6gifc51bgpmjh413h...@4ax.com...

Stop what? Giving an opinion in connection to some theory? Ridiculous.

Happy Oyster

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O.pearl

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No matches found in that for either the University of Dusseldorf or Dr. Pfitzer.

Get a life - or your swine flu jab.

Happy Oyster

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Learn to read.
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Bob Officer

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On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:50:16 +0200, in misc.health.alternative, Happy
Oyster <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:36:09 -0700, Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote:
>
>>>http://www.klinikskandal.com
>
>>I get a error decoding, unsupported Data Compression is used on the
>>page.
>
>Strange. The URL is okay. Which browser do you use?
>
>Just scroll down the page. The top is not by me, but by the hoster.

Mozilla - Firefox

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:njtfc5dmbsnmmh09v...@4ax.com...

"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools
that don't have brains enough to be honest."
- Benjamin Franklin

Happy Oyster

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Franklin made a good description of you. ;O)
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Happy Oyster

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On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:17:31 -0700, Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote:

>On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:50:16 +0200, in misc.health.alternative, Happy
>Oyster <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:36:09 -0700, Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote:
>>
>>>>http://www.klinikskandal.com
>>
>>>I get a error decoding, unsupported Data Compression is used on the
>>>page.
>>
>>Strange. The URL is okay. Which browser do you use?
>>
>>Just scroll down the page. The top is not by me, but by the hoster.
>
>Mozilla - Firefox

Just tried it again. Not a single error message.

Please, try again.
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Bob Officer

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On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:39:54 +0200, in misc.health.alternative, Happy
Oyster <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:17:31 -0700, Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:50:16 +0200, in misc.health.alternative, Happy
>>Oyster <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:36:09 -0700, Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>http://www.klinikskandal.com
>>>
>>>>I get a error decoding, unsupported Data Compression is used on the
>>>>page.
>>>
>>>Strange. The URL is okay. Which browser do you use?
>>>
>>>Just scroll down the page. The top is not by me, but by the hoster.
>>
>>Mozilla - Firefox
>
>Just tried it again. Not a single error message.
>
>Please, try again.

The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an
invalid or unsupported form of compression.




* Please contact the website owners to inform them of this
problem.

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:a4mhc51jb0fqcf6n1...@4ax.com...

"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools,

Happy Oyster

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On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:14:51 -0700, Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote:

>The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an
>invalid or unsupported form of compression.
>
> * Please contact the website owners to inform them of this
>problem.

I have no idea about what I could change.

Can you try an other browser, please?
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Happy Oyster

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Cut+paste does not a thought make.

O.pearl

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Happy Oyster

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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:40:08 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools,
>that don't have brains enough to be honest."
>- Benjamin Franklin
>

So, what trick is there behind whooping cough? Whooping cough is great. Good for
the lungs. Good for the karma. Never heard of that? The anthroposophs even build
music instruments for the ill children to play with. Yes, these instruments make
the sound of a person being gagged. Good for the karma, the anthroposophs say.
The anthroposophs are a very special breed. Anthroposophy and nazi-dom have the
same source. Great for gagging children...


http://www.ibabuzz.com/aparentlyspeaking/2008/05/12/whooping-cough-crammed-classes-a-mchenry-ouster-effort/

<quote>
One Response to �WHOOPING COUGH, Crammed Classes & a McHenry Ouster Effort�
ama Says:
May 12th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

>An El Sobrante school was shut down last week after whooping cough
> - pertussis - swept through the private East Bay Waldorf School.
>County health services stepped in after at least 16 children came
>down with the disease at a school where very few parents immunize
>their children. Kids whose parents refuse to put them on
>antibiotics are banned from school for 21 days, until the disease
>has run its course and they are no longer contagious.
>
>Wait. Parents are refusing antibiotics??

Yes, you got a minute piece of the picture. Fact is: Anthroposophs WANT children
to become ill.

The danger, especially for the Americas, is that people infected over here in
Europe enter your countries and spread the highly infectuous diseases.

Even worse is the fact that these sects founded strong bases in the USA,
committing the same crimes in the USA. It is vital to stop them immediately.

In Africa there still are large numbers of infections per year, but in the
Americas vaccination was largely effective, eradicating the measles. The PAHO in
2006 published an alert because tourists coming back from the soccer
championship in Germany might bring measles back to the American continent. A
measles epidemic broke out in Nordrhein-Westfalen, just were the games were. In
2007 two children died. They had been infected in 2006.

Matthias Rath is only one of the dangers stemming from Germany. A very big
danger is homeopaths and anthroposophs, who indoctrinate people. Some homeopaths
from the �Medizinische Hochschule Hannover� some years ago went to the Himalaya
to bring people there homeopathy. That is outrageous.
Homeopathy is a deadly dangerous quackery, and �anthroposophic medicine� is even
worse.

If homeopaths and anthroposophs take part in medical aid in underdevelloped
countries, like Ethiopia, there is the big risk, that they sabotage the whole
project. One case I found (this is why I mention this topic) is a medical
doctor, who in Germany openly opposes vaccination, takes part in a vaccination
project in Ethiopia. That is completely contradictory. And I strongly believe
that if the vaccinating in Ethiopia were done correctly, there should be NO
infections�

SSPE is an ALWAYS deadly consequence of measles. The risk of SSPE - as far as we
know today - is 1: 3000 to 1:2000. The latter figure was found in 2007 in
Germany. This makes the risk of death by measles to about 1:400 in total for an
industry country like USA or Germany.

Max is a victim of SSPE:
http://www.aktion-max.de/links.html

�Jaxon�s Cure�, USA
http://www.jaxonscure.org/index.htm

SSPE SSPEDERNEGI, Turkye
http://www.sspedernegi.org/tr/index_eng.asp?tur=sayfa&id=142

In France:
Elizabeth Bonneau-Br�ant

Pr�sidente fondatrice de l�Association L�Oiseau Bleu

Association de lutte contre la panenc�phalite subaig�e

scl�rosante post-rougeole ou maladie de Van Bogaert

Tel: 0033-(0)1.60.75.37.90
Tel: 0033-(0)6.21.28.57.25
http://www.loiseaubleu.org

Email:

And, yes, do never forget: Anthroposophs WANT children to become ill.

This is the insanity which all their life is about: about being reborn again and
again. They claim that infectuous diseases in THIS life now are the punishment
for bad deeds of a person in its former lives. AND THAT THIS PUNISHMENT MUST NOT
BE DISTURBED.

AND they claim that the fever caused by measles has magic powers.

Why are the Anthroposophs so insane to believe that? Answer Because they believe
EVERYTHING Rudolf Steiner, their insane guru, said.

We have a forum where we report the results of our research concerning the
sabotage to the health system committed by sects like the Anthroposophs:
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo
</quote>
.
--
Hanlon's Razor
Never ascribe to ingenious malice what is adequately explained by
dimwitted depraved indifference. Then go read the Book of Job
again and consider the depths that people will go to in order
to preserve the illusion of "it can't happen to me."

O.pearl

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Measles again.

'Vaccines Did Not Save Us - 2 Centuries of Official Statistics

This is the data the drug industry do not want you to see. Here 2 centuries
of UK, USA and Australian official death statistics show conclusively and
scientifically modern medicine is not responsible for and played little part
in substantially improved life expectancy and survival from disease in
western economies.

The Measles mortality graphs are enlightening [more below] and contradict
the claims of Government health officials that vaccines have saved millions
of lives. It is an unscientific claim which the data show is untrue. Here you
will also learn why vaccinations like mumps and rubella for children are
medically unethical and can expose medical professionals to liability for
criminal proceedings and civil damages for administering them.
..'
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

'MMR vaccine failures

[It is not generally know but over 50% of measles/mumps/rubella cases
have been vaccinated.]

"Take the 1991 measles epidemic. They calculated that this epidemic costs
the country 8 million dollars to treat the 9,000 plus cases. I'm not sure about
that figure, but the FACT that over 60% of those children were appropriately
vaccinated was never taken into consideration in that calculation."--Hilary Butler

[2009] A prolonged mumps outbreak among highly vaccinated Aboriginal
people in the Kimberley region of Western Australia
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/a_prolonged.html

Measles: vaccine isn't always enough (Finland 1999)
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles2.html

Measles outbreak puts focus on vaccine (Alaska 1998)
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles2.html

Mumps outbreak in highly vaccinated school
http://www.ias.org.nz/mumps.htm

Resurgence of mumps in Singapore associated with Rubini vaccine
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles2.html

Journal articles of measles vaccine failure (MMR)
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles2.html

"Study after study has demonstrated that many women immunized
against rubella as children lack evidence of immunity in blood tests
given during their adolescent years. Other tests have shown a high
vaccine failure rate in children given rubella, measles, and mumps
shots, either separately or in combined form."---Dr Mendelsohn

Rubella Vaccination: a failure by Michael Nightingale
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/rubella.html

[2007] measles outbreak experience I also managed to find out which
2 children had caught Measles. And guess what? Yes, both children
who had caught measles had been immunised with the combined MMR
at 13 months. Did the health workers inform the 2 mothers who
contacted me of this fact? No. But it didn't stop them using these cases
to frighten the mothers into allowing their children to be immunised with
the combined MMR. Utterly disgraceful. And they called themselves
"professionals".
http://www.whale.to/v/laura_c_a.html
.....'
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/mmr34.html

'Oct 02, 2009
Fever Plus Mitochondrial Disease Plus Vaccinations: Risk Factors
for Autistic Regression

Oct 01, 2009
Aluminum in vaccines increases thimerosal's toxicity

Sep 30, 2009
Washington state's Secretary of Health Mary Selecky: fraudulent, misquoted,
or uninformed?

Sep 28, 2009
Aluminum in vaccination-associated cognitive decline, motor neuron disease,
autism

Sep 27, 2009
Influenza rates among pregnant women: vaccinated vs unvaccinated

Sep 25, 2009
Letter to LATimes reporter: flu shots & H1N1 vaccinations implicate
thimerosal, autism, special education

Sep 20, 2009
Why do vaccine officials ignore adverse effects of thimerosal, aluminum,
and squalene?

Sep 07, 2009
Vaccination-induced cytokines: schizophrenia & developmental disabilities

Sep 02, 2009
Swine flu, regular flu: Do vaccinations augment sales of pychotropic and
other medicines?

Aug 29, 2009
Did NIAID's Anthony Fauci commit fraud or did US News & World
Report misquote Dr. Fauci?

Aug 19, 2009
Is Gardasil safe? Was the HPV vaccine promoted unfairly? Will H1N1
vaccinations injure?

Aug 12, 2009
Autism, mercury, other toxic metals, & glutathione

Aug 09, 2009
Lancet recommends caution for H1N1 vaccinations; ajduvants merit
concern
..
Jul 11, 2009
Vaccinations, cytokine storms, and autism

Jun 26, 2009
The flu shot: a brief review of anti-influenza vaccinations, by Sherri
Tenpenny, D.O.
..
Jun 16, 2009
Anti-influenza vaccination of pregnant women: is the fetus effected?
..
Jun 05, 2009
Gross Brown fictions: Vaccinations, autism, and the Institute of Medicine

May 31, 2009
MMR's live viruses, interferon gamma, and blood-brain barrier permeability
..
May 18, 2009
Toxicity of thimerosal and other metals: a new paper: April 2009
...'
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/index.htm

Happy Oyster

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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:03:47 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:dbpkc51r3a1fjg7h3...@4ax.com...
>
>Measles again.

THEN GET VACCINATED!
********************

<quote>
DATE: Tuesday, October 6, 2009
FOR RELEASE: Immediately
Contact: HHS Press Office
(202) 690-6343


MEDIA ADVISORY
For Wednesday, October 7, 2009


HHS TO RELEASE H1N1 FLU RELATED B-ROLL FOOTAGE VIA SATELLITE

The U.S Department of Health & Human Services will release flu related b-roll
footage via satellite tomorrow, Wednesday October 7, 2009. The footage includes
images of the H1N1 vaccine being manufactured and tested and distributed, as
well as
footage of individuals visiting a doctor's office. A detailed breakdown of the
footage is included below.

WHAT:
H1N1 related b-roll footage available via satellite

WHEN:
TOMORROW
October 7, 2009
2 - 2:45pm ET

SATELLITE COORDINATES:
Satellite: Galaxy 19/13K Slot D
FEC: 3/4
Symbol Rate: 5.632 @ 188 packet = 7.78541 Mbts Data rate
Data-7.2
D/L: 11969 MHz Vertical

Trouble Number:
202.690.6076

Note:
A breakdown of the b-roll footage is included below.

1:00:00
Stages of Influenza Vaccine Development
List of steps in developing vaccine for a new strain of influenza

1:00:52
Doctor's Office
Sick person visits doctor
Doctor collects sample to send to local or state lab for identification

1:03:04
Maryland Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Lab, Baltimore, MD
Initial testing of samples for influenza A and virus type

1:05:42
CDC Influenza Lab
Typing and subtyping samples showing novel influenza virus

1:08:20
Manufacturers - Stage 1
Using reference strain to prepare seed strain for vaccine production - Sanofi
Pasteur
Producing small batch of vaccine for use in clinical trials

1:10:23
Vaccine Clinical Trials at NIAID's Vaccine Testing and Evaluation Units
Adult goes through clinical trial process:
Orientation, screening, blood draw, injection, take-home materials
Children in trial get vaccinated
Pregnant women in trial get vaccinated

1:13:48
Manufacturers - Stage 2
Full-scale production of vaccine - MedImmune, GSK and Sanofi Pasteur

1:15:32
FDA
Inspects lots of vaccine before release

1:17:16
Distribution
McKesson prepares vaccine for distribution

1:19:35
Public Vaccination Events
Seasonal flu vaccination, Baltimore and Washington
Secretary Sibelius receives seasonal flu vaccine

INTERVIEW CLIPS

1:23:14
Dr. Thomas Frieden, Director, CDC

1:24:44
Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director, NIAID, NIH

1:27:23
Dr. Anne Schuchat, Director, NCIRD, CDC and Rear Admiral, USPHS, Assistant
Surgeon
General

1:30:48
Dr. Margaret Hamburg, Commissioner, FDA

1:32:44
Dr. Karen Kotloff, PI, U. of Maryland VTEU

1:36:24
Arthur Fergenson, Volunteer, U. of Maryland VTEU

1:37:19
Dr. Ina Stephens, PI, U. of Maryland VTEU

1:38:54
Dr. Kathryn Edwards, PI, Vanderbilt Univ. VTEU

1:40:34
Jessica Osaki, Volunteer, Vanderbilt Univ. VTEU

1:41:18
Dr. Jill Simmons, Volunteer, Vanderbilt Univ. VTEU

###

Note: All HHS press releases, fact sheets and other press materials are
available at
http://www.hhs.gov/news
</quote>
--
Der Schmock der Woche

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:gg8nc5tclra73mt1i...@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:03:47 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:dbpkc51r3a1fjg7h3...@4ax.com...
>>
>>Measles again.
>
> THEN GET VACCINATED!
> ********************

(previous post)

> HHS TO RELEASE H1N1 FLU RELATED

'UPDATE 2-Glaxo gets shot in arm from new H1N1 vaccine orders

By Ben Hirschler

LONDON, Aug 4 (Reuters) - GlaxoSmithKline (GSK.L) has won orders for
H1N1 swine flu vaccine from a further nine governments, taking the total number
of doses ordered to 291 million, the British-based drugmaker said on Tuesday.

With more orders still to come, it could be in line for a flu vaccine windfall of
more than $3 billion in the next six months or so, according to industry analysts.

Glaxo has previously said it expects to sell pandemic vaccine for around the
same price as seasonal flu shots, which fetch about 5 pounds a dose, implying
its total booked orders are now worth around 1.5 billion pounds ($2.54 billion).

It also has a variety of agreements in place with the U.S. government to supply
pandemic products worth an additional $250 million.

"Discussions continue with governments for further supplies of the vaccine,"
the company added in a statement, suggesting further potential upside.

The new government contracts cover an additional 96 million doses, over and
above the total of 195 million that it announced with its half-year results on July
22.

Simon Mather, an analyst in WestLB, said he expected Glaxo to book the
vaccine orders during the fourth quarter of 2009 and first quarter of 2010, since
supplies will only be available for mass vaccination programmes from September
onwards.

Rivals in the flu vaccine space include Sanofi-Aventis (SASY.PA), Novartis
(NOVN.VX), Baxter (BAX.N), Solvay (SOLB.BR), AstraZeneca (AZN.L)
and CSL (CSL.AX), some of which are slightly more advanced in clinical trials.
[ID:nL4596256]

However, Glaxo has taken a lead in announcing orders.

Its vaccine includes a proprietary adjuvant -- an ingredient that boosts the
immune system response, which means that less active ingredient is needed in
each dose.

Other companies are also working with adjuvants.

Glaxo said the first supplies of its swine fluvaccine would be available to
governments from September onwards and shipments were expected to
continue through early 2010.

To ensure supplies are available to poorer countries, it has allocated 20
percent of production at its Canadian manufacturing site to developing
countries from early September.

In addition to bumper vaccine revenues, Glaxo also stands to book extra
sales of flu drug Relenza, a rival to Roche's (ROG.VX) Tamiflu.

Sales of Relenza totalled 282 million pounds in the first half of 2008 and
Glaxo is increasing annual production capacity for the inhaled medicine
threefold to 190 million treatment courses by the end of 2009. ($1=.5903
Pound) (Editing by Ben Deighton and Karen Foster)

http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNews/idUKL462862720090804

'Swine flu, regular flu: Do vaccinations augment sales of pychotropic and
other medicines?

Teresa Binstock
Researcher in Developmental & Behavioral Neuroanatomy
September 02, 2009

A newly published study about "Early-life programming of later-life brain
and behavior" (1) augments concern that vaccinating a pregnant woman
increases the likelihood that her fetus will experience adverse neurologic
effects.

Bilbo & Schwarz summarize an important role of cytokines as follows:
"Given their crucial role in brain development, it is not surprising that
elevated levels of pro-infl ammatory cytokines generated by the maternal
or fetal immune system during perinatal infection have been associated with
abnormal fetal brain development and increased risk for neurodevelopmental
disorders (Cai et al., 2000; Meyer et al., 2006; Pang et al., 2003;
Richardson-Burns and Tyler, 2004; Urakubo et al., 2001; Yu et al., 2004)."

Consider several more points summarized by Bilbo & Schwarz:
A. "Increased levels of IL-6 in amniotic fluid have also been a clinically
useful marker of increased risk for neurological disorders and morbidity
(Yoon et al., 1995)". (1)
B. "Lipopolysaccharide (LPS), the cell wall component of gram-negative
bacteria, has been used to mimic infection in many studies because it initiates
a rapid and well-characterized immune response (see Wang et al., 2006 for
review)." (1)
C. "LPS markedly induces cytokine expression in the immature rat brain,
which has been linked to white matter injury and cerebral palsy (Cai et al.,
2000; Fidel et al., 1994; Golan et al., 2005; Urakubo et al., 2001)." (1)

Bilbo & Schwarz conclude their introduction by pointing out that 'tis not
pathogen-particles that cause damage to the progeny, instead the adverse
effects to the developing brain are caused by maternally produced cytokines:
"...the strong association between infection and developmental disorders
spans a diverse number of bacterial and viral agents, suggesting a common
mechanism such as cytokine release."

Given that excesses of maternally produced cytokines can damage the
embryonic and fetal brain, the rush to vaccinate pregnant women raises
concern because, in addition to other reasons (see below) vaccinations
induce severe elevations of cytokines.

Let us be clear. For a pregnant woman, vaccination-induced neuropathy
in her embryo or fetus may occur because vaccinations induce hyper-
production of cytokines (2) which are known to alter development of the
central nervous system (1, see also 3-4). Furthermore, most seasonal flu
shots still contain thimerosal, which is 49.6% ethylmercury by weight; and
most swine-flu shots will contain thimerosal even as many may also contain
a squalene adjuvant, which hyperstimulates immunity and which was
identified as etiologically significant in many cases of rheumatoid pathologies
associated with Gulf War Syndrome (9).

Despite CDC and FDA belittlements, thimerosal injected by physicians
and nurses adds neurologic risk to fetus and embryo. For instance, a study
published last year reported that boys who had received thimerosal
injections were 9 times more likely subsequently to have received special
education services (5, see also 6-7). Previously, a CDC team in 1999
found thimerosal injections to be associated with autism, PDD, tics, speech
problems, language disorders, etc (Verstraeten et al 1999; see 12-13).
How many medications had sales enhanced as a result of brain development
and behavior tweaked by vaccinal cytokines, by thimerosal and aluminum, etc?


Squalene is a naturally occurring molecule that, when injected as an adjuvant
in vaccines, hyperstimulates immunity and (in many individuals) has created
autoimmunity against brain and other tissues having endogenous squalene as
a component. MF59 is a squalene-based adjuvant patented by Novartis and
may be injected during many swine-flu vaccinations (eg, 8-11).

A further irony: according to news reports, initial testing of swine-flu
vaccinations is likely to occur with formulations not containing squalene or
thimerosal. Since the forthcoming "vaccines are safe" messages which we're
certain to hear may be based upon vaccinations containing neither thimerosal
nor squalene, messages about safety-testing of swine flu vaccinations shall
remain a scientific fiction.

Indeed, when we hear news-reported messages from the CDC and FDA
regarding safety of thimerosal, squalene, and flu shots - be they for normal flu
or for swine flu - we are well served to remember the FDA's posture in regard
to Vioxx. When FDA staffer David Graham, M.D., reported that Vioxx was
likely to have killed tens of thousand of people, top-level big-wigs wanted to
silence him, to have him fired. Fortunately, Congress intervened.

Similarly, when the CDC's team of researchers led by Verstraeten et al found
evidence of thimerosal's adverse effects, Verstraeten et al 1999 proceeded
deliberately to dilute their own data (12-13) and published a "study" based
upon that diluting (14; 2003). Subsequently, the CDC's upper-echelon
bureaucrats have failed to correct the deliberate diluting of data that would
have caused many a graduate student to be expelled from university facilities.

For these reasons, when the CDC and FDA pronounce the so-called "safety"
of swine-flu and regular-flu vaccinations, I don't know what to believe, don't
know whom to trust. But recent history tells me to be very wary of vaccine-
safety messages from the CDC and FDA. When pregnant women to endures
a vaccination-induced cytokine storm accompanied by the injecting of
thimerosal and squalene, she is likely to have put her embryo and fetus at risk.

References:

1. Early-life programming of later-life brain and behavior: a critical role for the
immune system
Staci D. Bilbo * and Jaclyn M. Schwarz
Department of Psychology and Neuroscience, Duke University, USA
{free online}
http://www.frontiersin.org/behavioralneuroscience/paper/10.3389/neuro.08/014.2009/

The immune system is well characterized for its critical role in host defense.
Far beyond this limited role however, there is mounting evidence for the vital
role the immune system plays within the brain, in both normal, �homeostatic�
processes (e.g., sleep, metabolism, memory), as well as in pathology, when
the dysregulation of immune molecules may occur. This recognition is especially
critical in the area of brain development. Microglia and astrocytes, the primary
immunocompetent cells of the CNS, are involved in every major aspect of
brain development and function, including synaptogenesis, apoptosis, and
angiogenesis. Cytokines such as tumor necrosis factor [TNF]a, interleukin
[IL]-1�, and IL-6 are produced by glia within the CNS, and are implicated
in synaptic formation and scaling, long-term potentiation, and neurogenesis.
Importantly, cytokines are involved in both injury and repair, and the conditions
underlying these distinct outcomes are under intense investigation and debate.
Evidence from both animal and human studies implicates the immune system in
a number of disorders with known or suspected developmental origins,
including schizophrenia, anxiety/depression, and cognitive dysfunction. We
review the evidence that infection during the perinatal period of life acts as a
vulnerability factor for later-life alterations in cytokine production, and marked
changes in cognitive and affective behaviors throughout the remainder of the
lifespan. We also discuss the hypothesis that long-term changes in brain glial
cell function underlie this vulnerability.

2. Vaccinations, cytokine storms, and autism
Teresa Binstock, Jul 11, 2009.
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090711-autism-by-cytokine-storms.htm

3. Anti-influenza vaccination of pregnant women: is the fetus effected?
Teresa Binstock, Jun 16, 2009
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090616-Anti-AntiInfluenza.htm

4. The flu shot: a brief review of anti-influenza vaccinations
Sherri Tenpenny, D.O., Jun 26, 2009
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090626-flu-shot-mediocre-efficacy.htm

5. Hepatitis B triple series vaccine and developmental disability in US children
aged 1-9 years
Gallagher C, Goodman M.
Stony Brook University Medical Center
Toxicol Environ Chem 2008 90(5):997-1008.
{free online}
http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/hep_b.pdf

This study investigated the association between vaccination with the Hepatitis B
triple series vaccine prior to 2000 and developmental disability in children aged
1-9 years (n = 1824), proxied by parental report that their child receives early
intervention or special education services (EIS). National Health and Nutrition
Examination Survey 1999-2000 data were analyzed and adjusted for survey
design by Taylor Linearization using SAS version 9.1 software, with SAS
callable SUDAAN version 9.0.1. The odds of receiving EIS were approximately
nine times as great for vaccinated boys (n = 46) as for unvaccinated boys (n = 7),
after adjustment for confounders. This study found statistically significant evidence
to suggest that boys in United States who were vaccinated with the triple series
Hepatitis B vaccine, during the time period in which vaccines were manufactured
with thimerosal, were more susceptible to developmental disability than were
unvaccinated boys.

6. Toxicity of thimerosal and other metals: a new paper: April 2009
Teresa Binstock, May 18, 2009
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090518-Toxicity-of-Thimerosal.htm

7. Autism, mercury, other toxic metals, & glutathione
Teresa Binstock, Aug 12, 2009.
http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090812-autism-toxic-metals-glutathione.htm

8. Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine�s Dirty Little Secret Exposed
by Joseph Mercola, D.O.
http://tinyurl.com/lh57v8

9. Extensive documentation about squalene's adverse effects in:
Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment That's Killing Our Soldiers--
And Why GI's Are Only The First Victims
Gary Matsumoto; 2004, Basic Books.

9a. Bookfinder for used copies of Vaccine A:
http://tinyurl.com/m46n33

9b. Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-Government-Experiment-Killing-Soldiers/dp/046504400X

9c. B&N
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Vaccine-A/Gary-Matsumoto/e/9780465044009

10. Adverse effects of adjuvants in vaccines
by Viera Scheibner, Ph.D.
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/adjuvants.html

11. Adjuvant Index
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/adjuvants.htm

12. Evidence of Harm
http://www.evidenceofharm.com

13. The CDC's Simpsonwood meeting...
http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/chapter2.html

14. Safety of thimerosal-containing vaccines: a two-phased study of
computerized health maintenance organization databases
Verstraeten T et al. Pediatrics. 2003 Nov;112(5):1039-48.

http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/090902-vaccinations-cytokines-thimerosal-squalene.htm

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>> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:03:47 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:dbpkc51r3a1fjg7h3...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>Measles again.
>>
>> THEN GET VACCINATED!
>> ********************
>
>(previous post)
>
>> HHS TO RELEASE H1N1 FLU RELATED


<quote>
Date: October 6, 2009
For Release: Immediately
Contact: FDA Press Office
(301) 796-4649

Headline: FDA Marks 100th HIV/AIDS Drug Authorized for Purchase Under PEPFAR

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) today marked
today marked the recent approval of the 100th antiretroviral drug in
association with the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief
(PEPFAR), aimed at the prevention, treatment, and care of people
infected with and affected by HIV/AIDS worldwide.

The PEPFAR program is a cooperative effort that involves the Food and
Drug Administration (FDA) and other HHS agencies, the State Department's
Office of the U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator, U.S. Department of Defense,
other federal agencies, host country governments, and many other
international partners.

"This milestone exemplifies the dedication, caring, and hard work of all
who strive to better the lives of those infected with or affected by
HIV/AIDS," said HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

To date, more than 100 products have been assessed by the FDA and either
fully or tentatively approved in association with the PEPFAR program. Of
these, 29 have been new products and 71 have been generic copies of
previously authorized antiretroviral products in the United States.
Twenty-two of these new products are new combinations or regimens that
have not previously been authorized in the United States. In addition,
there are seven new pediatric products considered innovative for
patients in developing economies.

"As we recognize the 100th product authorized in this program, it is
estimated that FDA's actions are allowing PEPFAR to spend $150 million
more each year on patient access to care," FDA Commissioner Margaret A.
Hamburg, M.D., told those attending an event marking the approval at the
Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) headquarters in Washington, D.C.
"I look forward to developing and expanding FDA's international
collaborations."

As of Sept. 30, 2008, the most recent figure available, PEPFAR supported
life-saving antiretroviral treatment for more than 2.1 million men,
women, and children living with HIV/AIDS. In fiscal year 2008, PEPFAR
provided nearly $1.6 billion in support of treatment programs, including
antiretroviral drugs and services.

"PEPFAR is committed to supporting partner countries to build and
maintain sustainable procurement and supply chain systems," said U.S.
Global AIDS Coordinator Eric Goosby.

Drug products used in PEPFAR receive a "tentative approval" and cannot
be approved for marketing in the United States because of existing
patents and marketing exclusivity. However, these products meet all the
FDA's manufacturing quality, clinical safety, and efficacy requirements
to produce them using the same standards as required for marketing in
this country.

FDA performs all of its reviews of applications received in association
with the PEPFAR on an expedited basis. After receiving approval or
tentative approval from FDA under this expedited process, a generic
anti-retroviral passes quickly on to the pre-qualification list
maintained by the Secretariat of the World Health Organization (WHO),
because of a confidentiality agreement that allows FDA to share data
from its evaluations with the WHO team in Geneva.

"Improving access to good quality medicinal products is a core objective
of public health efforts and one with a direct and measurable impact on
health," said Margaret Chan, M.D., director-general of WHO.
The goal of PEPFAR is to work with host nations to support treatment of
at least 3 million people, prevention of 12 million new infections, and
providing care for more than 12 million HIV-infected and affected people
by 2013. In addition, PEPFAR will support training of at least 140,000
health care workers in HIV/AIDS prevention, treatment, and care.

"We need to urgently and actively implement strategies to promote
greater affordability of both first and second line HIV/AIDS
antiretrovirals," said Mirta Roses, M.D., director of PAHO, an
international public health agency that works to improve health and
living standards in the Americas. "PEPFAR has made a tremendous
difference in the health of disadvantaged people."

For more information
PEPFAR Web site
http://www.pepfar.gov

Improving Access to HIV/AIDS Drugs Abroad
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm048558.htm


###
Note: All HHS press releases, fact sheets and other press materials are
available at
http://www.hhs.gov/news
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> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:14:25 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
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>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:gg8nc5tclra73mt1i...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:03:47 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:dbpkc51r3a1fjg7h3...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>Measles again.
>>>
>>> THEN GET VACCINATED!
>>> ********************
>>
>>(previous post)
>>
>>> HHS TO RELEASE H1N1 FLU RELATED
>
>
> <quote>
> Date: October 6, 2009
> For Release: Immediately
> Contact: FDA Press Office
> (301) 796-4649
>
> Headline: FDA Marks 100th HIV/AIDS Drug Authorized for Purcha$e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNvr9pkOIA

August 24, 2009

Anyone remember this? Baxter is the company making the swine flu vaccine.
Lets hope it is safe, hey!
..
An estimated 6,000 to 10,000 hemophiliacs nationwide, became infected with
H.I.V. after receiving a tainted clotting substance made by Baxter and three
other companies in the late 1970's and early 1980's. Hundreds of victims had
sued. But statutes of limitations prevented thousands more from bringing claims.
..
Smallpox vaccine 'triggered Aids virus' London Times MON 11 MAY 1987-
http://www.wanttoknow.info/870511vaccineaids
....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNvr9pkOIA

'AIDS As Biological & Psychological Warfare

by Waves Forrest

Despite repeated denials from Defense Department officials, allegations persist
that AIDS is a genetically altered virus, which has been deliberately released to
wipe out homosexuals and/or non-whites in the U.S. and reduce populations in
third world countries.

At first glance it seems like the epitome of paranoia to accuse the military of
conspiring to exterminate citizens of their own country, and even some of their
own troops. However, the vast majority of military personnel could be
completely unaware of such a plot in their midst, while a relative handful of
traitors in key positions could conduct it under cover of classified operations.
And the circumstantial evidence is actually quite compelling, that the AIDS virus
was artificially engineered, and planted in several different locations at about the
same time through vaccination programs, and possibly blood bank contamination.

At a House Appropriations hearing in 1969, the Defense Department's Biological
Warfare (BW) division requested funds to develop through gene-splicing a new
disease that would both resist and break down a victim's immune system. "Within
the next 5 to 10 years it would probably be possible to make a new infective
micro-organism which could differ in certain important respects from any known
disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory
to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to
maintain our relative freedom from infectious diseases." (See - A Higher Form
of Killing: The Secret Story of Chemical and Biological Warfare by R. Harris
and J. Paxman, p 266, Hill and Wang, pubs.) The funds were approved.

AIDS appeared within the requested time frame, and has the exact characteristics
specified.

In 1972, the World Health Organization published a similar proposal: "An attempt
should be made to ascertain whether viruses can in fact exert selective effects on
immune function, e.g., by ...affecting T cell function as opposed to B cell function.
The possibility should also be looked into that the immune response to the virus
itself may be impaired if the infecting virus damages more or less selectively the
cells responding to the viral antigens." (Bulletin of the W.H.O., vol. 47,
p 257-274.) This is a clinical description of the function of the AIDS virus.

The incidence of AIDS infections in Africa coincides exactly with the locations
of the W.H.O. smallpox vaccination program in the mid-1970's (London Times,
May 11, 1987). Some 14,000 Haitians then on UN secondment to Central
Africa were also vaccinated in this campaign. Personnel actually conducting the
vaccinations may have been completely unaware that the vaccine was anything
other than what they were told.

A striking feature of AIDS is that it's ethno-selective. The rate of infection is twice
as high among Blacks, Latinos and Native Americans as among whites, with death
coming two to three times as swiftly. And over 80% of the children with AIDS
and 90% of infants born with it are among these minorities. "Ethnic weapons" that
would strike certain racial groups more heavily than others have been a long-
standing U.S. Army BW objective. (Harris and Paxman, p 265)

Under the current U.S. administration biological warfare research spending has
increased 500 percent, primarily in the area of genetic engineering of new disease
organisms.

The "discovery" of the AIDS virus (HTLV3) was announced by Dr. Robert Gallo
at the National Cancer Institute, which is on the grounds of Fort Detrick, Maryland,
a primary U.S. Army biological warfare research facility. Actually, the AIDS virus
looks and acts much more like a cross between a bovine leukemia virus and a
sheep visna (brain-rot) virus, cultured in a human cell culture, than any virus of the
HTLV group.

The closest thing in this case to a "smoking test tube" so far is the AIDS virus itself.
If it was possible for such a monstrosity to occur naturally it would have done so
ages ago and decimated mankind at that time. Some other life form would presently
be in control of this planet (assuming that is not already the case).

The Hepatitis B vaccine study in 1978 appears to have been the initial means of
planting the infection in New York City. The test protocol specified non-
monogamous males only, and homosexuals received a different vaccine from
heterosexuals. At least 25-50% of the first reported New York AIDS cases in
1981 had received the Hepatitis B test vaccine in 1978. By 1984, 64% of the
vaccine recipients had AIDS, and the figures on the current infection rate for the
participants of that study are held by the U.S. Department of Justice, and
"unavailable."

The AIDS epidemic emerged full-blown in the three U.S. cities with "organized
gay communities" before being reported elsewhere, including Haiti or Africa, so
it is epidemiologically impossible for either of those countries to be the origin
point for the U.S. infections.

Another indication AIDS had multiple origin points is that the 14-month doubling
time of the disease cannot nearly account for the current number of cases if we
assume only a small number of initial infections starting in the late 1970s.

Before dismissing the possibility that a U.S. Army BW facility would participate
in genocide, bear in mind that hundreds of top Nazis were imported into key
positions in the U.S. military-intelligence establishment following WW II. U.S.
military priorities were then re-oriented from defeating Nazis to "defeating"
communism at any cost, and strengthening military control of economic and
foreign policy decisions (See - Project Paperclip by Clarence Lasby, Atheneum
214, NY, and Gehlen: Spy of the Century by E.H. Cookridge, Random House.)
There's no proof those Nazis ever gave up their long-term goals of conquest
and genocide, just because they changed countries. Fascism was and is an
international phenomenon.

It's not as if this was total reversal of previous U.S. military policy, however.
Hitler claimed to have gotten his inspiration for the "final solution" from the
extermination of Native Americans in the U.S. For that matter the first example
of germ warfare in the U.S. was in 1763 when some of the European colonists
gave friendly Indians a number of blankets that had been infected with smallpox,
causing many deaths.

One indication of the actual U.S. military priorities regarding BW was the
importation of the entire Japanese germ warfare unit (#731) following WW II.
These people killed over 3000 POWs, including many Americans, in a variety
of grisly experiments, yet they were granted complete amnesty and given
American military positions in exchange for sharing their research findings with
their U.S. Army counterparts.

Consider also the callous attitude displayed by top military officials toward
veterans suffering from the after-effects of exposure to Agent Orange and
radiation from nuclear weapons tests.

In fact, since the end of WW II over 200 experimental BW tests have been
conducted on civilians and military personnel in the U.S. One example was the
test spraying from Sept. 20-26, 1950 of bacillus globigi and syraceus maracezens
over 117 square miles of the San Francisco area, causing pneumonia-like
infections in many of the residents. The family of one elderly man who died in the
test sued the government, but lost. To this day, syraceus is a leading cause of
death among the elderly in the San Francisco area. Another case was the joint
Army-CIA BW test in 1955, still classified, in which an undisclosed bacteria was
released in the Tampa Bay region of Florida, causing a dramatic increase in
whooping cough infections, including twelve deaths. A third example was the
July 7-10, 1966 release of bacteria throughout the New York subway system,
conducted by the U.S. Army's Special Operations Division. Due to the vast
number of people exposed it would virtually impossible to identify, let alone
prove, and specific health problems resulting directly from this test.

Despite the loyalty of the vast majority of U.S. military personnel toward their
country, there are clearly some military officials who have very different intentions,
and they occupy high enough positions to impose their priorities on military
programs and get away with it, so far.

The first detailed charges regarding AIDS as a BW weapon were published in
the Patriot newspaper in New Delhi, India, on July 4, 1984. It is hard to say
where the investigations of this story in the Indian press might have led, if they
had not been sidetracked by two major domestic disasters shortly thereafter:
the assassination of Indira Gandhi on Oct. 31 and the Bhopal Union Carbide
plant "accident" that killed several thousand and injured over 200,000 on Dec. 3.

The Soviet press picked up the story on October 1985, making it easy for U.S.
Defense Department spokesmen to dismiss the charges as "Soviet propaganda,"
even though many other countries carried it. The Soviets recently retracted the
charges, in the new spirit of US-USSR cooperation.

A variation on the AIDS-BW theory that is popular in far-right publications is
that AIDS was developed in Soviet laboratories for use against the U.S. An
obvious problem with this idea is that the victims of choice of a Soviet BW
attack would be anti-communists, not minorities or homosexuals, who are
generally more left-wing. The people at greatest risk from AIDS in the U.S.
are in fact the very elements most disliked by arch-conservatives. In any case,
it is simplistic to assume that one country, U.S. or USSR, is conducting this
campaign against one another. Although concealed in apparent conflicts
between nations, the real culprits are multi-national fascists on both "sides" still
bent on massive population reductions and global domination.

Other motives include the old "divide and conquer" principle; AIDS is inspiring
fear and mistrust between people, and scaring them away from relating to each
other at the basic level of sexuality. It is acting as a barrier to the attempted
cultural resurgence toward peace, love and cooperation. Of high school students
surveyed last year as to which decade they'd most like to have grown up in, 90%
chose the 60's. The last thing pro-war fascists want is another "love generation,"
especially if it is more politically sophisticated than the last one.

Apparently, homosexuals were an initial target in the U.S. because their sexual
practices would help in the rapid spread of the disease, and because it was
correctly assumed that very few non-homosexual citizens would pay much
attention during the early years of the epidemic. Also, the stigma of a
"homosexual disease" would interfere with rational analysis and discussion of
AIDS. Bear in mind that homosexuals were among the first to be exterminated
in Nazi Germany, before Jews or other minorities, so fewer citizens would object.

The details of precisely how the AIDS virus was synthesized, mass cultured, and
spread by incorporating into vaccination programs are available but fairly intricate.
It is beyond the scope of this report to present a crash course in virology,
epidemiology, genetic engineering, and the military strategies of international fascism.
Readers are encouraged to obtain and study the references cited here, and demand
a full inquiry. Those officials who are actually involved in the coverup will reveal it
by their inaction when pressed to investigate.

Evil is hard to confront, especially on the preposterous scale we have here. If
you acknowledge the presence of those who think their only hope for survival is
to kill off two thirds of all the other kinds, and their ability to manage it, you then
pretty much have to do something about it.
....'
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/shadowlands/6583/project104.html

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>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:db2pc554d01dkkhvf...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:14:25 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:gg8nc5tclra73mt1i...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:03:47 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:dbpkc51r3a1fjg7h3...@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>Measles again.
>>>>
>>>> THEN GET VACCINATED!
>>>> ********************
>>>
>>>(previous post)
>>>
>>>> HHS TO RELEASE H1N1 FLU RELATED
>>
>>
>> <quote>
>> Date: October 6, 2009
>> For Release: Immediately
>> Contact: FDA Press Office
>> (301) 796-4649
>>
>> Headline: FDA Marks 100th HIV/AIDS Drug Authorized for Purcha$e
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNvr9pkOIA
>
>August 24, 2009
>
>Anyone remember this? Baxter is the company making the swine flu vaccine.
>Lets hope it is safe, hey!

And, still, Carol Hubbard advertises for homeopathy...

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> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:35:41 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
..
>>>>>>Measles again.
>>>>>
>>>>> THEN GET VACCINATED!
>>>>> ********************
>>>>
>>>>(previous post)
>>>>
>>>>> HHS TO RELEASE H1N1 FLU RELATED
>>>
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Date: October 6, 2009
>>> For Release: Immediately
>>> Contact: FDA Press Office
>>> (301) 796-4649
>>>
>>> Headline: FDA Marks 100th HIV/AIDS Drug Authorized for Purcha$e
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNvr9pkOIA

"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
the US and then they dumped it in France, Europe, Asia, and Latin America..
... the US government allowed it happen; the FDA allowed this to happen...
......." <watch>

Baxter patented the swine flu vaccine two years before outbreak of novel
swine flu virus * Austrian Baxter scientist involved in H1N1 vaccine patent
also advises WHO-
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/baxter-team-patents-the-swine-flu-vaccine-two-years-before-swine-flu-outbreak-austrian-baxter-scientist-involved-in-h1n1-vaccine-patent-also-advises-who/
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNvr9pkOIA

>>August 24, 2009
>>
>>Anyone remember this? Baxter is the company making the swine flu vaccine.
>>Lets hope it is safe, hey!
>
> And, still, Carol Hubbard advertises for homeopathy...

'Evidence based Response to WHO BBC Attack onHomeopathy

VoYS is an aggressive anti-homoeopathy lobby that have well documented
funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

We the undersigned are outraged at the way the World Health Organization has
allowed itself to be coerced by the Sense About Science Voices of Young
Science into condemning the use of homoeopathy in developing countries.

This condemnation comes after what appears to be blind acceptance by WHO
of the contents of a single letter from 'young scientists' living in the UK in June.
VoYS is an offshoot of Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

WHO appears to have made no efforts at all to establish the veracity of the claims
of VoYS or to check with the homoeopaths in the named countries on what they
are doing, their treatment policies or the results they are having in treating patients
with a wide range of conditions.

There is an increasing body of evidence in favour of homoeopathy's effectiveness.
The respondents from WHO's various departments, in their rush to fulfill the
'Young Scientists' request to condemn homoeopathy, apparently are not aware
of, or have chosen to overlook, the positive results of many research studies.

A recent high quality trial by the prestigious, WHO qualified facility, the Finlay
Institute in Cuba, involving two and a half million people, found homoeopathy to
be extremely effective in the prevention of Leptospirosis (Dr. Concepci�n Campa
Huergo report to Finlay Institute 'Nosodes 2008 conference' December 2008,
to be published).

A trial conducted by Quebec homoeopathy organization in partnership with
McGill University in Honduras found homoeopathy effective in preventing and
treating parasitic Chagas disease (Martine Jourde report to Finlay Institute
'Nosode 2008 conference' December 2008).

Three studies that show homoeopathy is effective in the treatment of childhood
diarrhea. Furthermore, counter to the uninformed claim of Joe Martines, on
behalf of Dr Elizabeth Mason, Director, WHO Department of Child and
Adolescent Health and Development, rehydration was included in the protocol
of the trials (See below).

A pilot study in Ghana showing homoeopathic treatment equal to and slightly
more effective than chloroquine in the treatment of acute malaria (Br Homoeopath
J 1996Apr;85(2):66-70).

The Stanford study treating tuberculosis in HIV patients resulted in significant
improvement in patients receiving homeopathic immunotherapy (Stanford,
Comm Br Hom Res Grp Dec 1992 22 30-9).

Furthermore, the WHO department directors have ignored the rich and well
documented history of homoeopathy's success in treating major worldwide
epidemics of cholera, influenza (including the 1918 epidemic), yellow fever and
many other serious epidemics. Homoeopathy has a well developed approach
to epidemics which mean homoeopaths can respond rapidly to an epidemic
infectious disease. In light of these and more studies of homoeopathy and the
extreme challenge of emerging drug resistant epidemics in developing countries,
it is cause for wonder why WHO itself has not sponsored research into
homoeopathy treatment.

Homoeopaths operate in a complementary way to conventional medicine, they
do not recommend stopping any prescribed conventional medicines. Treatment
results of patients in the developing countries where homoeopathy is used are
impressive. Patients are happier and healthier and despite the constraints of lack
of funding from established research foundations, studies are being undertaken
and proving homoeopathy's effectiveness.

In 2005 the World Health Organization proposed an extremely positive report
on homoeopathy and its potential in the developing world noting that it is cost
effective, has no side effects, and above all is positively health enhancing. It was
only after pressure from critics of Complementary and Alternative medicine to
revise it, that the report was held back and despite considerable revision it has
still not been published.

The VoYS has issued a press release to the media that widely publicises the
statements from the WHO Departmental Heads. VoYS has stated that they will
be contacting the Health Ministries of every country to tell them of the opinion
of WHO and discourage the use of homoeopathy in order to accomplish their
mission to stopping the use of homoeopathy altogether. VoYS has presented
the communication from WHO as a public announcement from WHO and as a
way to pressure countries to alter their internal health policies.

Is this the intention of WHO ? Does WHO condone other organizations speaking
and acting on its behalf in such a way??

We have several questions for WHO.

How can you allow your organisation to appear to condemn homoeopathy on
the basis of one letter by an antagonistic lobby that receives funding from the
pharmaceutical industry and without first checking the facts?

How can you reverse your own previous recommendations without verification
and dialogue?

Why when all over the world doctors, scientists and patients are choosing
homoeopathy because of their positive experience in regaining health, does
WHO decide to condemn homoeopathy? How is the WHO statement and
the subsequent contact by VoYS to be received by countries such as India,
where homoeopathy doctors have a long and respected record of treating all
diseases, including epidemics?

Why when Ministries of Health in many developing countries have responded
to the requests of their own citizens to make homoeopathy a registered medicine,
does WHO choose to lend their authority to the dedicated campaign of an anti-
homoeopathy group located in the UK?

The citizens of Switzerland recently voted in a national referendum to include
homoeopathy as one of their medical choices. Should the poor sick of Ghana,
Botswana, Swaziland, Tanzania, Brazil, Cuba, Thailand and other developing
countries, living in rural areas with little or no access to other medicines, be
deprived of this safe and affordable choice? How can WHO allow, through
the contents of one arbitrary letter, removal of freedom of choice from the
people who need it most? Is this not an issue of basic human rights?

The VoYS press release, which was further distorted by the BBC, has gone to
the media throughout the world under the headline of "WHO Warns Developing
Countries against Homoeopathy." This is a deliberately inflammatory, malicious
and false declaration that appears to have the backing of WHO. As a role
model of good health and disease treatment to the world, we appeal to WHO
not to let commercial powers and vested interests of a small vocal group influence
your stated goal of bringing the "highest possible level of health" to all the people
of the world.

We urge you to reverse your premature and apparently unconsidered
condemnation of homoeopathy --a safe, effective and cost-effective therapeutic
option for developing countries.

Please give health a chance!

Yours truly

"Homoeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other method of
treatment and is beyond doubt safer and more economical and most complete
medical science." Mahatma Gandhi

3 Research studies childhood diarrhoea: Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea
in Nicaragua
This trial involved 81 children aged from 6 months to 5 years in a randomised,
double-blind trial of intravenous fluids plus placebo versus intravenous fluids plus
homoeopathic remedy individualised to the patient. The treatment group had a
statistically significant decrease in duration of diarrhoea.
Jacobs J. Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea with homoeopathic medicine:
a randomized clinical trial in Nicaragua. Pediatrics 1994; 93: 719-725.

Treatment of acute childhood diarrhoea, repeated in Nepal
In a replication of a trial carried out in Nicaragua in 1994, 116 Nepalese children
aged 6 months to 5 years suffering from diarrhoea were given an individualised
homoeopathic medicine or placebo. Treatment by homoeopathy showed a
significant improvement in the condition in comparison to placebo.
Jacobs J., Jimenez M., Malthouse S., Chapman E., Crothers D., Masuk M.,
Jonas W.B., Acute Childhood Diarrhoea- A Replication., Journal of Alternative
and Complementary Medicine, 6, 2000, 131-139.

A meta-analysis of childhood diarrhoea trials
This meta-analysis of 242 children showed a highly significant result in the
duration of childhood diarrhoea (P=0.008).
J. Jacobs, WB Jonas, M Jimenez-Perez, D Crothers, Homoeopathy for
Childhood Diarrhea: Combined Results and Meta-analysis from Three
Randomized, Controlled Clinical Trial, The Pediatric Infectious Disease
Journal, 22 (3): 229-234, March 2003.

Homeopathic treatment of patients with chronic sinusitis: A prospective
observational study with 8 years follow-up 27th July 2009
Witt, Ludtke, Willich.
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6815/9/7

Homeopathic Individualized Q-potencies versus Fluoxetine for Moderate
to Severe Depression: Double-blind, Randomized Non-inferiority Trial
U. C. Adler, N. M. P. Paiva, A. T. Cesar, M. S. Adler, A. Molina, A. E.
Padula and H. M. Calil
eCAM Advance Access published online on August 17, 2009
http://ecam.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/nep114v1

http://www.similima.com/gen244.html

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On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:25:32 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:


>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
>the US and then they dumped it in France, Europe, Asia, and Latin America..
>... the US government allowed it happen; the FDA allowed this to happen...
>......." <watch>

That is a rather insane attack.

If there are criminals in the system - and ther ARE criminals ! -, then these
criminals have to be weeded out. But this does not make the whole system either
nonsense, nor not functioning nor criminal. AND it does in no way mean, that the
naturopathic mafia were better!

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:1auqc5to4iiomkkrj...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:25:32 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>
>>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
>>the US and then they dumped it in France, Europe, Asia, and Latin America..
>>... the US government allowed it happen; the FDA allowed this to happen...
>>......." <watch>
>
> That is a rather insane attack.

How so?



> If there are criminals in the system - and ther ARE criminals ! -, then these
> criminals have to be weeded out. But this does not make the whole system either
> nonsense, nor not functioning nor criminal.

Suggest you go back and read everything you've evaded from the start.

> AND it does in no way mean, that the naturopathic mafia were better!

There's no such thing.

Happy Oyster

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Each mafioso says so.
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frevelten dort um die Wette.
Wollten von Jahwe nichts wissen,
wurden von L�wen zerrissen." http://www.reimbibel.de

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:lhurc5pduugqvice7...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:00:48 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:1auqc5to4iiomkkrj...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:25:32 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>>>>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
>>>>the US and then they dumped it in France, Europe, Asia, and Latin America..
>>>>... the US government allowed it happen; the FDA allowed this to happen...
>>>>......." <watch>
>>>
>>> That is a rather insane attack.
>>
>>How so?
>>
>>> If there are criminals in the system - and ther ARE criminals ! -, then these
>>> criminals have to be weeded out. But this does not make the whole system either
>>> nonsense, nor not functioning nor criminal.
>>
>>Suggest you go back and read everything you've evaded from the start.
>>
>>> AND it does in no way mean, that the naturopathic mafia were better!
>>
>>There's no such thing.
>
> Each mafioso says so.

Really.

Mafia Warriors [Mafioso]
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=103910583526


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Sure.

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:lq5sc5lu7su31j1kf...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:22:20 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:lhurc5pduugqvice7...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:00:48 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:1auqc5to4iiomkkrj...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:25:32 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>>>>>>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
>>>>>>the US and then they dumped it in France, Europe, Asia, and Latin America..
>>>>>>... the US government allowed it happen; the FDA allowed this to happen...
>>>>>>......." <watch>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a rather insane attack.
>>>>
>>>>How so?
>>>>
>>>>> If there are criminals in the system - and ther ARE criminals ! -, then these
>>>>> criminals have to be weeded out. But this does not make the whole system either
>>>>> nonsense, nor not functioning nor criminal.
>>>>
>>>>Suggest you go back and read everything you've evaded from the start.
>>>>
>>>>> AND it does in no way mean, that the naturopathic mafia were better!
>>>>
>>>>There's no such thing.
>>>
>>> Each mafioso says so.
>>
>>Really.
>
> Sure.

Mafia Warriors [Mafioso]
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=103910583526

Happy Oyster

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You still do not get it? Better read this:

http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/showtopic.php?threadid=4187
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Aetiology
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unscientific or fraudulent medicine as a problem. The site catalogues cases of
people harmed by so-called alternative medicine treatments. Most of the cases
are due to refusing standard treatment as a result of misplaced faith in
unconventional treatment.

For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
avoidable death.

I was reminded of this site by a recent case of a man who was convicted and will
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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:lu6sc5hdbf06otmgr...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:55:17 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
..

>>>>>>>>"... after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication
>>>>>>>>that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in
>>>>>>>>the US and then they dumped it in France, Europe, Asia, and Latin America..
>>>>>>>>... the US government allowed it happen; the FDA allowed this to happen...
>>>>>>>>......." <watch>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is a rather insane attack.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How so?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there are criminals in the system - and ther ARE criminals ! -, then these
>>>>>>> criminals have to be weeded out. But this does not make the whole system either
>>>>>>> nonsense, nor not functioning nor criminal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Suggest you go back and read everything you've evaded from the start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AND it does in no way mean, that the naturopathic mafia were better!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There's no such thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Each mafioso says so.
>>>>
>>>>Really.
>>>
>>> Sure.
>>
>>Mafia Warriors [Mafioso]
>
> You still do not get it? Better read this:

Trawl through that mess. No. If you've got a point, make it.

> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
> avoidable death.

'Death rate extrapolations for USA for Asthma: 5,637 per year,
469 per month, 108 per week, 15 per day, ..
..'
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/a/asthma/stats.htm

But, sure, underlying causes must be investigated and eliminated. e.g:

'Allergy to cereals and dairy products in adult, uncomplicated asthma:
an epidemiological survey.
..
The results suggest that allergy to cereals and dairy products may often
be underestimated in adult asthmatics especially when positive reactions
to inhalants are also present.
..'
http://www.find-health-articles.com/rec_pub_7211628-allergy-cereals-dairy-products-adult-uncomplicated-asthma.htm

'Asthma explained by common allergy to milk and dairy products

The link between asthma and cows' milk is familiar to many young asthma
sufferers and their parents. I first became aware of the connection through
my cousin's experiences with his four-year-old son. Since infancy, my
cousin's son has experienced severe asthma attacks and has been hospitalized
twice for asthma-related pneumonia. When his asthma attacks become more
frequent or more severe, my cousin and his wife respond by temporarily
eliminating milk and milk products from his diet, and it usually works. I always
assumed that milk worsened his asthma by stimulating mucus production in his
lungs. However, studies suggest that, either along with or instead of creating
excess mucus, milk may worsen asthma due to an undiagnosed milk allergy.

"In all respiratory conditions, mucous-forming dairy foods, such as milk and
cheese, can exacerbate clogging of the lungs and should be avoided," writes
Professor Gary Null in his Complete Encyclopedia of Natural Healing. Very
simply, when more mucus accumulates in the lungs than can be expelled,
asthma attacks develop. This belief has long been held in practiced medicine,
and many medical doctors still stand behind this theory.

At the same time, many other doctors and researchers are now beginning to
feel that undiagnosed milk allergies may be the underlying problem behind the
link between milk and asthma. As Dr. Robert M. Giller writes in Natural
Prescriptions, eliminating dairy products from the diets of many adult and
child asthma patients helps "not because dairy products stimulate mucus
production but because they're very common causes of allergy, upper-
respiratory allergies and asthma (which may be an allergy in itself)."

"Milk is one of the two or three most common food allergens in the American
diet," says allergy specialist Dr. James Braly in Bill Gottlieb's book Alternative
Cures. In fact, Dr. Frank Oski, the chief of pediatrics at the John Hopkins
School of Medicine, believes that 50 percent of all schoolchildren may be
allergic to milk, though many of them remain undiagnosed. Some researchers
believe that the figure may be even higher, up to 60 percent of children,
according to Dr. Charles R. Attwoods's book, A Vegetarian Doctor Speaks
Out. When most people think of milk allergies, they think of anaphylactic
shock -- a severe, life-threatening allergic reaction that can only be relieved
with a shot of epinephrine. However, allergies sometimes manifest in very
different ways, and these may change throughout a person's life.

In Get Healthy Now, Professor Null explains a milk allergy's changing
symptoms: "Even if the symptoms are not the same, the underlying allergy may
be. A child who has suffered milk-associated asthma, for instance, may have
severe acne as a teenager. The milk allergy is still there, but its symptoms have
moved to a different organ system, often misleading the patient and physician
into thinking that the original allergy has been outgrown." According to
Alternative Medicine, up to half of all infants may be sensitive to cows' milk.
As a result, symptoms of an underlying milk allergy may start as early as
infancy, only manifested as eczema, a symptom that may remain later on in
childhood and adulthood. Furthermore, in addition to asthma and eczema, an
underlying milk allergy may manifest as bronchitis, sinusitis, autoimmune
disorders, frequent colds and ear infections and even behavioral problems.
..
When I was in medical school, I read a book by a physician who had had
good results in treating asthma in children by eliminating all milk and dairy
products. When I discussed the book with my professors, they said it was
nonsense. I guess there are still people around who discredit the idea, but
I've found that eliminating milk and cheese from the diet can be helpful for
both asthmatic adults and children. This is not because dairy products
stimulate mucus production but because they're very common causes of
allergy, upper-respiratory allergies, and asthma.
Natural Prescriptions by Dr Robert M Giller, page 25
...'
http://think-aboutit.com/health/Asthmaxplainedbycommonallergytomilkanddairyproducts.htm


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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:15:03 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
>> avoidable death.

Homeopathy is fraud.

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:iabsc5lmpad1m766s...@4ax.com...

>
>>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
>>> avoidable death.

Continual evasion noted, mafioso.

> Homeopathy is fraud.

Happy Oyster

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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:40:03 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:iabsc5lmpad1m766s...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>>>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
>>>> avoidable death.
>
>Continual evasion noted, mafioso.
>
>> Homeopathy is fraud.

Homeopathy is fraud.

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:u4dsc51tdq63pqn4k...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:40:03 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:iabsc5lmpad1m766s...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>>>>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
>>>>> avoidable death.
>>
>>Continual evasion noted, mafioso.
>>
>>> Homeopathy is fraud.
>
> Homeopathy is fraud.

'Evidence based Response to WHO BBC Attack on Homeopathy

Happy Oyster

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Oct 8, 2009, 3:05:28 PM10/8/09
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:57:16 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:u4dsc51tdq63pqn4k...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:40:03 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:iabsc5lmpad1m766s...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>>> For example, Jacqueline Alderslade was told by a homeopath to give up her asthma
>>>>>> medication. She subsequently died of an asthma attack. This was a completely
>>>>>> avoidable death.
>>>
>>>Continual evasion noted, mafioso.
>>>
>>>> Homeopathy is fraud.
>>
>> Homeopathy is fraud.
>
>'Evidence based Response to WHO BBC Attack on Homeopathy
>
>VoYS is an aggressive anti-homoeopathy lobby that have well documented
>funding connections to pharmaceutical companies.

That is bullshit.

O.pearl

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No. You're a terminally ignorant and very stupid dishonest evil troll. QED.

Happy Oyster

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Homeopathy is fraud, no matter who or what you show up with.

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:d7fsc5dh5udmudlq8...@4ax.com...
..

> Homeopathy is fraud, no matter who or what you show up with.

Evidence has already been published here, troll. The fraud is all yours.

'Medical News Today

Complementary Medicine / Alternative Medicine News

Homeopathy: New Evidence
Main Category: Complementary Medicine / Alternative Medicine
Also Included In: Clinical Trials / Drug Trials
Article Date: 14 Nov 2008 - 3:00 PDT
..
Due to a lack of funding, there are a limited number of homeopathic studies.
As a result, it is quite possible to interpret homeopathic data selectively and
unfavourably, which is what appears to have been done in the Lancet paper
...
This reconstruction casts serious doubts on the Lancet review, showing
that it was based on a series of hidden judgments unfavourable to
homeopathy. An open assessment of the current evidence suggests that
homeopathy is probably effective for a number of conditions including
allergies, upper respiratory tract infections and 'flu, but more research is
desperately needed.

Prof Egger has declined to comment on these findings.
..'
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/129436.php


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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:02:07 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:d7fsc5dh5udmudlq8...@4ax.com...
>..
>> Homeopathy is fraud, no matter who or what you show up with.
>
>Evidence has already been published here, troll. The fraud is all yours.

ALL which has been published PRO homeopathy, is bullshit.

Homeopathy IS fraud.

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:f7lsc51gosrd6h87t...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:02:07 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:d7fsc5dh5udmudlq8...@4ax.com...
>>..
>>> Homeopathy is fraud, no matter who or what you show up with.
>>
>>Evidence has already been published here, troll. The fraud is all yours.
>
> ALL which has been published PRO homeopathy, is bullshit.
>
> Homeopathy IS fraud.

WHO are you hoping to fool, troll? You're just proving you're a joke.

Happy Oyster

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No homeopath on this earth has a chance against me. ;O)

O.pearl

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Just Get Your Damn Vaccine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzy2UHwN9zs&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_fresh+div-HM


Steelclaws

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> "Happy Oyster" <happy.oys...@ariplex.com> wrote in messagenews:f7lsc51gosrd6h87t...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:02:07 +0100, "O.pearl" <priv...@iol.ie> wrote:
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> >>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oys...@ariplex.com> wrote in messagenews:d7fsc5dh5udmudlq8...@4ax.com...

Peter Bowditch

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"O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
>lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies

Prove that.

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Steelclaws

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On 8 Oct, 22:13, "O.pearl" <priv...@iol.ie> wrote:

> > ALL which has been published PRO homeopathy, is bullshit.
>
> > Homeopathy IS fraud.
>
> WHO are you hoping to fool, troll?  You're just proving you're a joke.

http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html

O.pearl

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> http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html

'In 2004, the Canadian Medical Association Journal published a shocking
study on the frequency of medical errors.

Researchers examined a random sample of charts over a year at one teaching
hospital, one large community hospital, and two small community hospitals in
each of five provinces, including B.C.

There were no psychiatric or obstetric patients in the study, which took place
over the fiscal year 2000,

The researchers discovered that 7.5 percent of patients experienced at least
one "adverse event", and 36.9 percent of these adverse events were
considered "highly preventable".

Extrapolating the results suggested that adverse events were linked to
between 141,250 and 232,250 admissions to Canadian acute-care hospitals
that year.

The study also reported that 9,250 to 23,750 preventable deaths occurred.

You read that correctly: up to 23,750 preventable deaths took place in
acute-care hospitals in Canada in a single year, according to the CMAJ study.

In 2007, the CMAJ published another troubling study, this time by University
of Toronto medical professor Wendy Levinson and University of Washington
associate professor of medicine Thomas Gallagher.

They reported that "adverse events", including errors, occur frequently in
health care.

"Disclosing errors to patients is challenging for both physicians and health
care institutions," they wrote. "Recent studies suggest that harmful medical
errors are infrequently disclosed to patients and, despite a malpractice
environment that is less onerous than in many countries, Canadian patients
are no more likely to be informed about harmful errors than patients
elsewhere."

Last week, the Georgia Straight published an article on homeopathy, which
is an alternative approach commonly used in Germany, India, and other
countries. We published a disclaimer at the bottom of the piece saying it
didn't necessarily reflect the views of the paper.

For that, we've been pilloried by some readers and members of a local
skeptics' group, even though there is no evidence that homeopathic
remedies have any dangerous side effects.

As I read the comments from outraged readers, I asked myself: "Do these
people ever raise their voices in protest against the frequency of medical
errors, which actually kill people? Do they ask what the B.C. government
or the College of Physicians and Surgeons of B.C. are doing about this
situation? Or do they just get in an uproar about alternative health treatments?"

The medical community loves its peer-reviewed research, which is often
underwritten by drug companies. But when Toronto physician Nancy Olivieri
tried to publish some of her research that threatened the industry's profits, she
was shut down.

The reality is that some people doubt the effectiveness of flu vaccines because
the virus mutates so rapidly. Some wonder if their vaccine will have any efficacy
against the particular flu virus that they might contract months down the road.

Some of these flu-vaccine skeptics might be inclined to consider homeopathy
as an alternative.

Judging from the CMAJ-published research, the biggest threat to human
health isn't homeopathy; it's that trip to your local hospital.

..

Right on Charlie Smith.

And to the hysterical others:
Homeopathy doing a lot more harm than good? Ridiculous-

In the United States alone over 50,000 people were injured or killed by
Vioxx alone- that is number that settled the class action law suit

The FDA conservatively estimated that 27,000 plus people were killed
by this one drug.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/vioxx_estimates.html

Now statins are on the line and on and on it goes. Instead of all the hysteria
about homeopathy treatment why not spend some of your obviously too
much spare time dealing with the problem with drugs and conventional
medical problems described in this article. A little more oversight there is in
order.

There is something very unbalanced by all this attack on homeopathy.
..'
http://www.straight.com/article-258584/medical-error-lot-more-dangerous-homeopathy

More information in the comments section. Also see my previous posts.


O.pearl

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"Peter Bowditch" <myfir...@ratbags.com> wrote in message news:bafuc59v98tsc3541...@4ax.com...

> "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
>>lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies
>
> Prove that.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sense+About+Science%22+funded+by+pharmaceutical+industry&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-ie:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA_en

O.pearl

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Just Take Your Damn Drugs....

'Scandalous abuse' of the elderly prescribed antipsychotics in hospital exposed

Tens of thousands of vulnerable dementia patients are being prescribed
'chemical cosh' drugs in hospital wards in a 'scandalous abuse' of the elderly,
ten leading health organisations have said in a letter to The Daily Telegraph.

By Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor
Published: 7:40AM BST 07 Oct 2009

It is the first time the scale of the abuse in hospital wards is exposed, following
warnings that 100,000 dementia patients in care homes are prescribed the
drugs leading to the deaths of 23,000 a year Photo: GETTY

Three quarters of nurses have seen people with dementia in general wards in
hospital prescribed antipsychotic drugs that are known to double the risk of
death and triple the risk of a stroke in these patients, research has shown.

It is the first time the scale of the abuse in hospital wards is exposed, following
warnings that 100,000 dementia patients in care homes are prescribed the
drugs leading to the deaths of 23,000 a year.

Related Articles
Dementia 'tsars' planned
Chemical coshes 'double the chance of Alzheimer's patients dying'
Half of nursing home residents 'wrongly drugged'
Use of 'chemical cosh' drugs in dementia patients triple risk of stroke
Doctors giving anti-psychotics to dementia sufferers 'should be prosecuted'

Sedatives 'killing 23,000 Alzheimer's victims a year'Ten leading charities, carers
groups and experts have written to The Daily Telegraph saying: "We cannot
stand by while this scandalous abuse of vulnerable citizens continues."

Neil Hunt, Chief Executive of Alzheimer's Society said: "The massive over
prescription of antipsychotics to people with dementia is an abuse of human
rights, causing serious side effects and increasing risk of death. These powerful
drugs should only be used in a small number of cases. The Government must
take action to ensure that these drugs are only ever used as a last resort."

They have called on the government to publish its long-overdue review of the
use of antipsychotics which ministers promised would be out in May of this
year.

Rebecca Wood, Chief Executive of the Alzheimer's Research Trust, said:
"While the Department of Health prevaricates, thousands of people are being
put at risk through the misuse of antipsychotics."

There are 700,000 people in Britain with dementia and the numbers are rising
rapidly.

Antipsychotics have a sedative effect and are not licensed for use in dementia
but are prescribed when patients become agitated or difficult and often then
are left on them for long periods.

A survey by the Alzheimer's Society of over 1,000 nurses and nurse managers
working on general wards in hospitals found more than three quarters said
antipsychotics were used always or sometimes and one quarter said that the
drugs were used inappropriately.

Mr Hunt said the numbers of patients prescribed the drugs in hospital is likely
to be in the order of tens of thousands.

The letter to The Daily Telegraph reads: "100,000 people with dementia in care
homes are being inappropriately prescribed a damaging chemical cosh of
antipsychotic drugs and new research suggests that there is a significant problem
in hospitals too.

"Antipsychotics should only ever be a last resort. This over prescription is abuse
and it must stop.

"The government must urgently publish its plans to tackle the overuse of
antipsychotics. These plans must deliver better support for people with dementia
and those working with them as well as cracking down on inappropriate
prescribing practice.

"We need to make good care the norm and move away from resorting to
dangerous drugs which can increase confusion and the risk of premature death.
We must all work together to improve dementia care.

"We cannot stand by while this scandalous abuse of vulnerable citizens continues."

....'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6264962/Scandalous-abuse-of-the-elderly-prescribed-antipsychotics-in-hospital-exposed.html

Happy Oyster

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Oct 9, 2009, 1:20:18 PM10/9/09
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On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:46:40 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>"Steelclaws" <tenqu...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:c552b205-2021-42f7...@o41g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
>
>'In 2004, the Canadian Medical Association Journal published a shocking
>study on the frequency of medical errors.

The worst mistake is not to delicense all who apply homeopathy.
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hasst der Herrgott auch nicht minder. * von Huren(5.Buch Mose,Kap.23)
Dies gilt auch f�r Ammoniter *
und die miesen Moabiter." * http://www.reimbibel.de

Happy Oyster

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That is no proof, but only bullshit.

Happy Oyster

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Oct 9, 2009, 1:23:25 PM10/9/09
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On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:58:57 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:

>
>Just Take Your Damn Drugs....

Yes, homeopathy is shit.

O.pearl

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Oct 9, 2009, 3:42:17 PM10/9/09
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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:mbsuc5998mmej4qb4...@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:58:57 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>
>>Just Take Your Damn Drugs....

'Scandalous abuse' of the elderly prescribed antipsychotics in hospital exposed

Tens of thousands of vulnerable dementia patients are being prescribed
'chemical cosh' drugs in hospital wards in a 'scandalous abuse' of the elderly,
ten leading health organisations have said in a letter to The Daily Telegraph.

By Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor
Published: 7:40AM BST 07 Oct 2009

Three quarters of nurses have seen people with dementia in general wards in


hospital prescribed antipsychotic drugs that are known to double the risk of
death and triple the risk of a stroke in these patients, research has shown.

It is the first time the scale of the abuse in hospital wards is exposed, following
warnings that 100,000 dementia patients in care homes are prescribed the
drugs leading to the deaths of 23,000 a year.

Related Articles
Dementia 'tsars' planned
Chemical coshes 'double the chance of Alzheimer's patients dying'
Half of nursing home residents 'wrongly drugged'
Use of 'chemical cosh' drugs in dementia patients triple risk of stroke
Doctors giving anti-psychotics to dementia sufferers 'should be prosecuted'
Sedatives 'killing 23,000 Alzheimer's victims a year'

....'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6264962/Scandalous-abuse-of-the-elderly-prescribed-antipsychotics-in-hospital-exposed.html

> Yes, homeopathy is shit.

'2008 Nobel Prize Winner Proves Homeopathic Remedies Are Active
Posted on September 16, 2009 by homeopathyresource

Professor Luc Montagnier is a French virologist and joint recipient with
Fran�oise Barr�-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen of the 2008 Nobel Prize
in Physiology or Medicine for his co-discovery of the Human Immunodeficiency
Virus (HIV).

He and his team of researchers have been doing rigorous experiments using
homeopathically prepared biological substances. They have conclusively shown
that homeopathically prepared biological substances give off electromagnetic
waves and therefore have effects.

"The researchers also noted that one experiment found significant effects from
dilutions as high as 10(-18) (equivalent to 18X). The EM signature changed
with dilution levels but was unaffected by the initial concentration and remained
even after the remaining DNA fragments were destroyed by chemical agents.

Of additional interest was the researchers' observation that they observed the
SAME results whether their initial concentration of cells were just 10 or 10(9)
(this is 10 to the 9th power = 10,000,000,000 cells)."

Click here for the full report from Dana Ullman MPH

<links at link>
http://homeopathyresource.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/2008-nobel-prize-winner-proves-homeopathic-remedies-are-active/

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:85suc5hnukumrp878...@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:46:40 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>"Steelclaws" <tenqu...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:c552b205-2021-42f7...@o41g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
>>
>>'In 2004, the Canadian Medical Association Journal published a shocking
>>study on the frequency of medical errors.
>
> The worst mistake is not to delicense all who apply homeopathy.

"Drawing upon the extensive use of homeopathy by historical figures, founders
of modern medicine, and current celebrities, The Homeopathic Revolution
documents the long standing efficacy of homeopathy. Given the research
breakthroughs in the biological and clinical effects of nanopharmacology, it is
a certainty that homeopathy has an evolving scientific foundation in the
Integrative Medicine of the future."
- Kenneth R. Pelletier, PhD, MD
Author, The Best Alternative Medicine: What Works? What Does Not?
Former Clinical Professor of Medicine, Stanford University School of Medicine;
Presently, Clinical Professor of Medicine, University of Arizona;
Director of the Corporate Health Improvement Program which is a research
program including such Fortune 500 companies as Corning, IBM, Dow,
Ford, Nestle, and NASA.

"The pharmaceutic industry will hate this book almost as much as the AMA.
KUDOS, Dana Ullman, for providing the foundations for a broader
understanding of this far safer approach to health."
- C. Norman Shealy, M.D., Ph.D.
Neurosurgeon and Pain Management Specialist
Founding President, American Holistic Medical Association
President, Holos University Graduate Seminary

"Homeopathy is perhaps the most misunderstood area of medicine, evoking
passions pro and con. In THE HOMEOPATHIC REVOLUTION, Dana
Ullman, one of the world's foremost authorities, illuminates this field for
laypersons and professionals alike. Like a medical detective, Ullman probes
the corners of history and science in a delightful, fascinating romp. Highly
recommended."
- Larry Dossey, MD
Author, The Extraordinary Healing Power of Ordinary Things

"How do we reconcile the fact that the American Medical Association has
long held homeopathy to be worthless, when so many people have reported
that they found help for their ills in homeopathy? The AMA responds that
patients are unqualified to evaluate the treatment they receive. I think that
attitude is phenomenally patronizing, and I think that Dana Ullman has done
us a major service in showing that many of the smartest and most successful
people in recent history have publicly expressed appreciation for the benefits
they have received from homeopathy."
- John Robbins, Author of Diet For A New America, and Healthy At 100.

"Several Harvard-affiliated physicians have told me in private conversation
that homeopathy has helped their family members or friends, but they would
not want to say so publicly due to fear of ridicule. Hopefully, this book will
help open-minded doctors and scientists to realize they are not alone and to
have the courage to call for more research on this most interesting and
paradoxical form of treatment."
- David Anick PhD MD
Research Associate, McLean Hospital
Harvard Medical School

"Dana Ullman takes the reader from the origins of homeopathy as a 19th
century system of medicine into a 21st century science. Through this
fascinating ride of medical history, he shows us that many of the world's most
famous and respected people of the past 200 years have advocated for and
appreciated this other approach to medicine. I am personally amazed that so
many of my cultural heroes have benefited from this misunderstood science
and healing art. Homeopathy deserves a definitive place in health care today."
- Leonard A. Wisneski, MD, FACP,
An endocrinologist and Clinical Professor of Medicine at George Washington
University Medical Center;
Adjunct Faculty in the Department of Physiology and Biophysics at Georgetown
University;
Authored over 30 scientific articles and a textbook, The Scientific Basis of
Integrative Medicine.

"Through this fascinating ride through medical history, we see that many of the
world's most famous and respected people of the past 200 years have
advocated for and appreciated this "other" school of medicine. As the interest
in alternative approaches to medicine continues to multiply, Ullman's The
Homeopathic Revolution provides an absolutely compelling case for the past,
present and future of this potent approach to health and healing."
- Ken Dychtwald, Ph.D.
Author, Bodymind, Healthy Aging, Age Wave, Age Power,
Consultant to many Fortune 500 Companies

http://www.homeopathicrevolution.com/

O.pearl

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:q7suc5pfa9rojqtd8...@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:49:05 +0100, "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Peter Bowditch" <myfir...@ratbags.com> wrote in message news:bafuc59v98tsc3541...@4ax.com...
>>> "O.pearl" <pri...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sense About Science an aggressive anti-homoeopathy
>>>>lobby that have well documented funding connections to pharmaceutical companies
>>>
>>> Prove that.
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sense+About+Science%22+funded+by+pharmaceutical+industry&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-ie:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA_en
>
> That is no proof, but only bullshit.

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/registeredcharities/ScannedAccounts/Ends14\0001101114_ac_20070405_e_c.pdf

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