Impeachment Support Soars as Voters Say Feds “Out of Control”

[Joe Cooper]

A recent Fox News poll shows more than two-thirds of American voters
believe the federal government is �out of control� and a threat to their
liberties. Meanwhile, a separate survey commissioned by WND revealed that
more than half of the public supports impeaching President Obama for a
series of explosive scandals: spying on journalists, IRS targeting of
conservative and Tea Party groups, as well as what has become known as
�Benghazigate.� Other major scandals such as the administration's Fast and
Furious gun-running to cartels, executing Americans without trial, and
unconstitutional wars were not addressed in the surveys.

MORE:

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/15496-impeachment-support-
soars-as-voters-say-feds-out-of-control

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Mr. Obama, much too pure and innocent to be told about mistakes in his
administration, was too busy bathing the feet of the poor and tending
to lepers to be told that his administration was engaged in an
Orwellian attack on free speech. (Ben Stein)

[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in news:Zn2qt.269064$o7.108726
@fed16.iad:

> They only poll
> individuals who shill for the Republican party.

Please document this claim.

[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in

news:8b4qt.186393$VE2....@fed14.iad:

> On 31-May-2013, Joe Cooper <nieqez...@tormail.org> wrote:
>
>> Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in
>> news:Zn2qt.269064$o7.108726 @fed16.iad:
>>
>> > They only poll
>> > individuals who shill for the Republican party.
>>
>> Please document this claim.
>>
>
>

> Do you like being purposefully stupid? There are countless sources
> throughout the web that documents quite well that faux snooze shills
> for the Republican party. They don't even make a serious attempt to
> disprove this themselves. They are against American and therefore they
> are against the Democratic party by their very nature. So why on earth
> would they ever conduct a poll that disproves their own bias when
> their bias has been very profitable to them?

So you cannot document your claim. I didn't think you could, but I
thought it would be polite to ask.

[Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey]

On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:26:45 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:


> Do you like being purposefully stupid?

Obama and Holder sure do, with their "know nothing" defense of their
atrocities. "I dunno. I wasn't there. I dunno when I recused myself
....etc."

>There are countless sources
> throughout the web that documents quite well that faux snooze shills for the
> Republican party.

MotherJones, Dail Kos, MSNBC, Huffington, Salon, Brian Williams ... but who
takes leftist megaphones seriously, other than Moonbats of course.

[Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey]

On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 12:47:48 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:

> On 31-May-2013, Joe Cooper <nieqez...@tormail.org> wrote:
>
>> Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in
>> news:8b4qt.186393$VE2....@fed14.iad:
>>
>>> On 31-May-2013, Joe Cooper <nieqez...@tormail.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in
>>>> news:Zn2qt.269064$o7.108726 @fed16.iad:
>>>>
>>>> > They only poll
>>>> > individuals who shill for the Republican party.
>>>>
>>>> Please document this claim.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you like being purposefully stupid? There are countless sources
>>> throughout the web that documents quite well that faux snooze shills
>>> for the Republican party. They don't even make a serious attempt to
>>> disprove this themselves. They are against American and therefore they
>>> are against the Democratic party by their very nature. So why on earth
>>> would they ever conduct a poll that disproves their own bias when
>>> their bias has been very profitable to them?
>>
>> So you cannot document your claim. I didn't think you could, but I
>> thought it would be polite to ask.
>>
>

> If you even think that faux snooze is not biased in favor of Republicans
> then you are far too stupid to recognized the evidence that has been amassed
> over the years. I don't have to present any evidence myself because you have
> demonstrated that you are unwilling to remove the blinders from your eyes.
> It isn't exactly as if I am the only person in the entire world who has ever
> brought this idea forward.

Fox's commenters / editorialists / pundits mostly lean right, same with the
Washington Times, just as ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, Time, Newsweek, and
the bulk of the major daily newspapers lean left.

However, when it comes to actual journalism, i.e., reporting the facts, Fox
is more "fair and balanced," just as they advertise. The others are
definitely left, as much as the way they report the facts, as what they
FAIL tp report, e.g., black-on-white hate crime attacks by flash mobs.

Hope this edifies.

[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in

news:U3mqt.23967$6K5....@fed05.iad:

> If you even think that faux snooze is not biased in favor of
> Republicans then you are far too stupid to recognized the evidence
> that has been amassed over the years. I don't have to present any
> evidence myself because you have demonstrated that you are unwilling
> to remove the blinders from your eyes. It isn't exactly as if I am the
> only person in the entire world who has ever brought this idea
> forward.

So you cannot document your claim. I didn't think you could, but I
thought it would be polite to ask.


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What is striking though is how the Obama Administration has demonstrated
little to no regard for the privacy of our nation�s citizens. Time and
again, federal agencies have abused the rights of people and misused
their information. For those watching the developing news concerning the
IRS, they should be appalled, but not at all surprised. Under this
President, the conduct we are watching has not become the exception, but
the rule. Whether it�s President Obama�s IRS or NLRB, both place politics
and special interests above the rights and safety of the American
taxpayers who are paying their salaries. (Fred Wszolek)

[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in news:fOoqt.294765$R74.40397
@fed03.iad:

> Every news organization picks and chooses what they will cover.

Yep...the MSM covered Obama's high school prom photos while FOX covered
Benghazi and the IRS scandals.

Funny, that.

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I guess politicians can be excused for thinking the electorate is stupid
because they keep winning reelection. If you were Barbara Boxer or Harry
Reid and you kept being reelected, you'd have to think, 'Half of my state
is stupid.' But then you wouldn't be smart enough to think that if you had
their brains. (Rush Limbaugh)

[Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey]

One black attacking whites??? The local news channel in damn near every
city over 25,000 will report black-on-white violence -- although they
rarely use the words "hate crime" unless the races are reversed -- but the
MSM ignores the savagery altogether. In fact, even Fox ignores a
substantial portion of B on W hate crimes. But when those rednecks in Texas
dragged the black guy a few years ago, it was headline for weeks. In that
same town of Jasper Texas, blacks returned the favor, dragging hitchhikker
Ken Tillery. Not a peep from the big media. That's just one instance of
the double-standard; I can relate dozens of stories amassed over the yrs.

Of course, as we know, the sleazy black racist Eric Holder gloated when he
told us that under Federal law, whites are excluded as hate crime victims,
unless they're queer or part of one of the other "protected" groups.

And as for politics, your own moonbat think tanks and even MSNBC found that
the leftist candidate got more favorable reporting during the past two
Pres. elections.

Anyway, here's a summation of reality:

Fox's commenters / editorialists / pundits mostly lean right, same with the
Washington Times, just as ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, Time, Newsweek, and
the bulk of the major daily newspapers lean left.

However, when it comes to actual journalism, i.e., reporting the facts, Fox
is more "fair and balanced," just as they advertise. The others are
definitely left, as much as the way they report the facts, as what they
FAIL tp report, e.g., black-on-white hate crime attacks by flash mobs.

Hope this edifies.

BTW, moonbat, you think Juan Williams leans right? And O'Reilly whom the
left detests often takes a position contrary to conservatism. He sees
himself as the great compromiser and loves being devil's advocate.



















On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 15:53:47 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:

> On 1-Jun-2013, "Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey"

> Faux snooze staff doesn't just lean right - they are in danger of tipping
> over.
>
> Every news organization picks and chooses what they will cover. Responsible
> journalists pick stories based on what interests the public. Irresponsible
> journalists (e.g. the ones who work for faux snooze, WND, etc.) pick stories
> bases on how much they can sensationalize and polarize. They find one
> instance where a black person attacks a white person and they manipulate
> this to suggest that black people in general are constantly planning to
> attack white people. They find one instance where a Muslim commits an act of
> terror because he is mentally unstable and all of the sudden all Muslims are
> guilty of either being terrorists or planning to be terrorists. They find
> one case where a fifteen year old girl is scared out of her mind because she
> let her boyfriend have sex with her and she became pregnant and sought an
> abortion and all of the sudden abortions are an uncontrolled epidemic. They
> find once instance where a Latino male gets caught with a couple ounces of
> marijuana and all of the sudden all Hispanics/Latinos are drug runners. The
> list goes on and on and on. In the end, faux snooze doesn't exist to report
> the news - it is out to degrade women and miniorities and then everyone
> wonders why women and minorities don't vote for Republicans.
>
> The only time that I have ever found faux snooze to be truthful is that once
> they reported that it was raining in the area where I live and when I looked
> out the window I saw that indeed the ground was wet. Otherwise I don't
> really trust what they have to say.

.

[Sid9]

"Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey"

<Proggie...@everywhere.net> wrote in message
news:xlunh2c2mxed.1jmn5asq1cd8p$.dlg@40tude.net...

.
.
.
You want news?
FOX is not the place to go.

If you think FOX is news, seek help!

[CC Rider]

Yeah, he don't know what he's missing with Chrissy Tingles at DNCNBC.

[Don't smoke; eat well; exercise; die anyway]

On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 13:38:50 -0400, Sid9 wrote:

That's what all the propagandized girly boys say.

> If you think FOX is news, seek help!

.

[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in

news:9Yzqt.24696$Tr....@fe40.iad:

>> So you cannot document your claim. I didn't think you could, but I
>> thought it would be polite to ask.
>>
>

> You mistakenly think that you are being clever. It isn't true, of
> course. But those little voices in your head tell you that if you pull
> stunts like that somehow a miracle will occur and someone other than
> yourself will believe what you say. That's the problem with the
> behavior pathology known as conservativism. The APA doesn't even
> really know how to classify that form of abnormal behavior pathology
> because they find it difficult to determine whether it is
> physiologically based or whether conservatives really are more stupid
> than a box full of rocks.

So you STILL can't document your claim, eh, Kirbikins?

I am not even remotely surprised.

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[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in news:1jKqt.38631$iA.6248
@fe46.iad:

> Thanks for demonstrating vividly to everyone here that you are a broken
> record.

Thanks for demonstrating vividly to everyone here that you cannot backup
your mouth with facts supporting your duplicitous allegations regarding
Fox.

[Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey]

On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 00:06:48 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:

> Quite laughable. Every Democrat knows that when I say that faux snooze is a
> shill for the Republican party that I have not deviated from the truth one
> bit.

Do every one of you girly boys know that the bulk of the mainstream media
has been slanted left since circa 1960, going back to the venerable Walter
Cronkite who never met a Marxist banana republic he didn't admire?

>So generally they are in agreement with me.

Assholes think alike, so what?

> It is YOU who need to
> convince them somehow

No cupcake, it works like this: you make the claim; the burden to prove is
on you.

>In the end it is ONLY
> Republicans who will ever claim that faux snooze doesn't shill for their
> party.

Registered democrat beginning in 1965; just recently changed (March 2013)
to Independent or as my State calls it officially "Unafilliated." My take
on Fox is that their editorializing leans right, but their journalism is
faaaarrrrr more objective than any in the mainstream media.

>real Americans - i.e. Democrats.

Real Americans don't support multiculturalism, but rather the "melting
pot." Real Americans don't support redistribution of wealth. Real
Americans support equal opportunity, but not equal outcome or equal
success. Real Americans believe in rewarding merit, not preferential
treatment.

In other words, real Americans do not support today's Dem platform. The
dem party is not the party I joined in 1965 as did my ancestors previously
who are probably turning over in their graves. It ain't the party of Adlai
Stevenson, Scoop Jackson, or JFK.

But hey, I know that everyone likes Santa Claus and as long as the punk in
the WH doles out goodies via redistribution, the dems will be hard to beat
... until the goodies run out, that is.

> On 2-Jun-2013, Joe Cooper <nieqez...@tormail.org> wrote:
>
>> "Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in news:1jKqt.38631$iA.6248
>> @fe46.iad:
>>
>>> Thanks for demonstrating vividly to everyone here that you are a broken
>>> record.
>>
>> Thanks for demonstrating vividly to everyone here that you cannot backup
>> your mouth with facts supporting your duplicitous allegations regarding
>> Fox.
>>
>>
>

> Quite laughable. Every Democrat knows that when I say that faux snooze is a
> shill for the Republican party that I have not deviated from the truth one
> bit. So generally they are in agreement with me. It is YOU who need to
> convince them somehow (although this would be an impossible task since faux
> snooze is definitely a shill for the Republican party) that they shouldn't
> think that. It is YOU who needs to produce evidence that they are not biased
> in their reporting. Of course all of the rest of us will just laugh at you
> since we know you will be defending the indefensible. In the end it is ONLY
> Republicans who will ever claim that faux snooze doesn't shill for their
> party. Everyone else just assumes it is because they've watched it and have
> observed first-hand that the network really just presents a series of lies
> and baseless accusations against real Americans - i.e. Democrats.

.

.

[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in

news:s6Rqt.179$vO....@fe15.iad:

>
> On 2-Jun-2013, Joe Cooper <nieqez...@tormail.org> wrote:
>

>> "Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in news:1jKqt.38631$iA.6248
>> @fe46.iad:
>>
>> > Thanks for demonstrating vividly to everyone here that you are a
>> > broken record.
>>
>> Thanks for demonstrating vividly to everyone here that you cannot
>> backup your mouth with facts supporting your duplicitous allegations
>> regarding Fox.
>>
>>
>

> Quite laughable. Every Democrat knows that when I say that faux snooze
> is a shill for the Republican party that I have not deviated from the
> truth one bit. So generally they are in agreement with me. It is YOU
> who need to convince them somehow (although this would be an
> impossible task since faux snooze is definitely a shill for the
> Republican party) that they shouldn't think that. It is YOU who needs
> to produce evidence that they are not biased in their reporting. Of
> course all of the rest of us will just laugh at you since we know you
> will be defending the indefensible. In the end it is ONLY Republicans
> who will ever claim that faux snooze doesn't shill for their party.
> Everyone else just assumes it is because they've watched it and have
> observed first-hand that the network really just presents a series of
> lies and baseless accusations against real Americans - i.e. Democrats.

Still can't manage to back up your mouth with documented fact, eh, Koiby?
Why is that? Is it just that you are too stupid to realize that when you
make assertions you can't support with FACTS, folks realize you're a
lying proggie?

Or are you just too stupid, period?

[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in

news:vwTqt.188667$EL.3...@fed12.iad:

> Nonsense. It doesn't slant left. It merely repulses the erroneous and
> deceitful doctrine of the right. The thing is, there isn't a bit about
> the right that isn't just plain wrong. They have NEVER EVER produced
> any good.

BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in news:ko0rt.192763$EL.158619
@fed12.iad:

> Well, since only your fellow Republicans agree with you and since

BZZZT. Wrong again, proggie. I am not a Republican.

[Way Back Jack]

Have you ever wondered who controls the mainstream media?



In America today, we are more "connected" than ever. The average American
watches 153 hours of television a month, and we also spend countless hours
watching movies, playing video games, listening to music, reading books and
surfing the Internet.



If someone could control the production of all of that media, that would
make them immensely powerful. They would literally be in a position to tell
people what to think. Well, what if I told you that there are just six
enormous media conglomerates that combine to produce about 90 percent of
all the media that Americans consume.



Would that alarm you? It should alarm you.



The truth is that our attitudes, opinions and beliefs are greatly shaped by
what we allow into our minds. After all, they don't call it "programming"
for no reason. Even those of us that realize that we are connected to "the
matrix" probably greatly underestimate the tremendous influence that the
media has over us.



We live at a time when it is absolutely imperative to think for ourselves,
but most Americans are being absolutely overwhelmed with information and
seem more than content to let others do their thinking for them.



Sadly, this is greatly contributing to the downfall of our society.



And of course the mainstream media desperately does not want you to look at
"the man behind the curtain". They just want you to stay plugged into the
"programming" that they are feeding you without asking any questions.



Fortunately, a growing minority of Americans are waking up and are starting
to reject the mainstream media. An increasing number of people are
beginning to recognize that the mainstream media is the mouthpiece of the
establishment and that it is promoting the agenda of the establishment.



So why is the mainstream media so bad?



The following are 7 things about the mainstream media that they do not want
you to know...









1 - The Mainstream Media

...Has Very Deep Ties To The Establishment



Did you know that the president of CBS and the president of ABC both have
brothers that are top officials in the Obama administration?



The big news networks have developed an almost incestuous relationship with
the federal government in recent years. But of course the same could be
said of the relationship that the media has with the big corporations that
own stock in their parent companies and that advertise on their networks.



This is one of the reasons why we very rarely ever see any hard hitting
stories on the big networks anymore.



The flow of information through the corporate-dominated media is very
tightly controlled, and there are a lot of gatekeepers that make sure that
the "wrong stories" don't get put out to the public.



As a result, many of the "big stories" that have come out in recent years
were originally broken by the alternative media.









2 - The Mainstream Media

...Gets Things Wrong Very Frequently



Even prominent members of the mainstream media admit that this is the case.



For example, during a recent speech at Quinnipiac University CBS anchor
Scott Pelley confessed that journalists in the mainstream media "are
getting big stories wrong, over and over again"...

"Let me take the first arrow: During our coverage of Newtown, I sat on my
set and I reported that Nancy Lanza was a teacher at the school. And that
her son had attacked her classroom.



It's a hell of a story, but it was dead wrong. Now, I was the managing
editor, I made the decision to go ahead with that and I did, and that's
what I said, and I was absolutely wrong.



So let me just take the first arrow here."







3 - The American Public

...Does Not Consider The Media To Be Very Trustworthy



Trust in the mainstream media has definitely been slipping.



In fact, a Gallup poll taken last year found that distrust of the media had
reached an all-time high. According to that poll, 60 percent of Americans
"have little or no trust" that the media is reporting the news accurately.



A separate Rasmussen Reports survey found that only 6 percent of all
Americans consider the news media to be "very trustworthy".



Hopefully this trend will accelerate and a lot more people will stop
trusting the media blindly.









4 - The Mainstream Media And The Politicians

...That They Worship Hate The Fact That They Cannot Control Internet News
Sites



In the old days, the mainstream media had a virtual monopoly on the news.



But these days, anyone with an Internet connection can put up a news site,
and this is driving the establishment absolutely bonkers. For example,
Barack Obama is known to have a great dislike for the alternative media.



The following is from a recent WND article...

NBC News Political Director Chuck Todd says President Obama was making it
“clear” at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner over the weekend how he
feels about the rise of Internet news sites like Politico, Buzzfeed and…
well, WND.

“He hates it.”

Appearing on “Meet the Press” Sunday morning following Saturday night’s
media, politics and celebrity soiree, Todd explained the president’s
disdain for independent online news sources was showing during his speech.

“It did seem… I thought his pot shots, joke-wise, and then the serious
stuff about the Internet, the rise of the Internet media and social media
and all that stuff - he hates it, OK? He hates this part of the media,”
Todd said.



“He really thinks that the, sort of, the buzzification - this isn’t just
about Buzzfeed or Politico and all this stuff - he thinks that sort of
coverage of political media has hurt political discourse. He hates it. And
I think he was just trying to make that clear last night.”







5 - The Mainstream Media Is Extremely Liberal



When it comes to politics, the mainstream media is far more liberal than
the general population is.



For example, one survey found that 41 percent of American voters believe
that the average reporter is more liberal than they are, while only 18
percent believe that the average reporter is more conservative than they
are.



A very disturbing UCLA study on media bias discovered that the vast
majority of media outlets are "left of center"...

Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS’
“Evening News,” The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking
second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall
Street Journal.

And even MSNBC has confirmed the liberal bias of the media.



According to MSNBC, mainstream journalists are far more likely to donate
their own money to Democrats than they are to Republicans...

MSNBC.com identified 143 journalists who made political contributions from
2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public
records of the Federal Election Commission.



Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to
Democrats and liberal causes. Only 16 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both
parties.







6 - Six Mammoth Media Corporations

...Produce About 90 Percent Of The Media That Americans Consume



As I mentioned at the top of this article, there are six giant media
behemoths that control almost all of the media that we consume.



These corporate giants own,

television networks

cable channels

movie studios

newspapers

magazines

publishing houses

video game makers

music labels

even many of our favorite websites

The media ownership chart posted below originally comes from a previous
article that I authored entitled "Who Owns The Media? The 6 Monolithic
Corporations That Control Almost Everything We Watch, Hear And Read", but
it has been updated to reflect some of the latest information.



The power that these companies have is so vast that it is hard to put into
words...
















On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 02:51:07 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:

> On 2-Jun-2013, "Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey"

> <Proggie...@everywhere.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 00:06:48 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:
>>
>>> Quite laughable. Every Democrat knows that when I say that faux snooze
>>> is a
>>> shill for the Republican party that I have not deviated from the truth
>>> one
>>> bit.
>>
>> Do every one of you girly boys know that the bulk of the mainstream media
>> has been slanted left since circa 1960, going back to the venerable Walter
>> Cronkite who never met a Marxist banana republic he didn't admire?
>

> Nonsense. It doesn't slant left. It merely repulses the erroneous and
> deceitful doctrine of the right. The thing is, there isn't a bit about the
> right that isn't just plain wrong. They have NEVER EVER produced any good.
>
>
>>

>>>So generally they are in agreement with me.
>>
>> Assholes think alike, so what?
>

> No. Educated people know that faux snooze is biased towards the Republican
> party. You uneducated people just don't recognize that.

>
>>
>>> It is YOU who need to
>>> convince them somehow
>>
>> No cupcake, it works like this: you make the claim; the burden to prove is
>> on you.
>>
>

> Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. What cereal box did you get your diploma from? I didn't
> make the claim. Millions of people are aware that faux snooze is biased
> towards Republicans. But what is also true is that there isn't a shred of
> evidence against that or else you would have brought it up. But you know, as
> well as everyone else, that it is biased towards the Republican party, so
> the ONLY thing you can ever do is just blow smoke and accuse everyone else
> of being wrong. Faux snooze would even carry reporting from WND and Alex
> Jones if they thought that they could maintain their profits.

>
>
>>>In the end it is ONLY
>>> Republicans who will ever claim that faux snooze doesn't shill for their
>>> party.
>>
>> Registered democrat beginning in 1965; just recently changed (March 2013)
>> to Independent or as my State calls it officially "Unafilliated." My take
>> on Fox is that their editorializing leans right, but their journalism is
>> faaaarrrrr more objective than any in the mainstream media.
>>
>

> So you decided to spurn all that is proper and decent and accept
> degradation, lies and vast ignorance. Poor choice. But in this country
> everyone has the right to be more stupid than a box of rocks.

>
>>>real Americans - i.e. Democrats.
>>
>> Real Americans don't support multiculturalism, but rather the "melting
>> pot." Real Americans don't support redistribution of wealth. Real
>> Americans support equal opportunity, but not equal outcome or equal
>> success. Real Americans believe in rewarding merit, not preferential
>> treatment.
>>
>> In other words, real Americans do not support today's Dem platform. The
>> dem party is not the party I joined in 1965 as did my ancestors previously
>> who are probably turning over in their graves. It ain't the party of
>> Adlai
>> Stevenson, Scoop Jackson, or JFK.
>>
>

> Who cares about Stevenson or JFK. They are both dead and almost forgotten.
> History just isn't all that important. Interesting perhaps, but not
> important. All that matters is now and the future. The mistakes of the past
> can't be corrected, so the only thing we can do is look forward and try to
> make things better. We're certainly better at it than Republicans who don't
> even pretend to make anything better. They just prefer to stick their head
> in the past and pretend that they can turn back the clock to when they were
> actually liked by a few.

.

[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in

news:us3rt.270431$Zu6....@fed09.iad:

>
> On 3-Jun-2013, Joe Cooper <nieqez...@tormail.org> wrote:
>
>> "Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in
>> news:ko0rt.192763$EL.158619 @fed12.iad:
>>
>> > Well, since only your fellow Republicans agree with you and since
>>
>> BZZZT. Wrong again, proggie. I am not a Republican.

> If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,
> then it is ipso facto a duck.
>
> Nice try, but you are not fooling anyone. You have a long history of
> disparaging the Democratic party and supporting the Republican party.
> That makes you a Republican. To deny that is simply to do something
> that Republicans do best - lie.

One does not, except in Kirby's Bizarro World, have to BE a Republican in
order to support them when they're doing something right. As a typical
proggie, Grant ignores any negatives I've offered, particularly with
respect to Nixon, GW Bush, John McCain and others.

So if it looks like a proggie, and walks like a proggie and lies like a
proggie, then it is ipso facto a proggie.

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Submission to the collective is the goal. Seen from that perspective, it
is quite logical to try to make children self-conscious about how they
eat their Pop Tarts, lest they appear to be "threatening" society.
Notice, they are not actually threatening any person; their threat,
being imaginary, is abstract. It is a threat to "other students" in the
abstract, to the collective. The child is learning to feel guilty if he
catches himself in possession of thoughts unacceptable to the state as
such; that is, he is learning to submit. (Daren Jonescu)

[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in news:%05rt.192750$Rk4.94525
@fed08.iad:

> That's
> because I am an honest person.

You mis-spelled "delusional."

[Don't smoke; eat well; exercise; die anyway]

On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 02:51:07 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:

> On 2-Jun-2013, "Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey"
> <Proggie...@everywhere.net> wrote:

>>In other words, real Americans do not support today's Dem platform. The
>> dem party is not the party I joined in 1965 as did my ancestors previously
>> who are probably turning over in their graves. It ain't the party of
>> Adlai
>> Stevenson, Scoop Jackson, or JFK.
>>
>

> Who cares about Stevenson or JFK. They are both dead and almost forgotten.

So is Martin Luther King but the left and many on the right continue to bow
and genuflect at the mention of his name.

> History just isn't all that important. Interesting perhaps, but not
> important. All that matters is now and the future.

Socialist future, eh comrade. Because that'w what the democratic party has
devolved into.

>> Do every one of you girly boys know that the bulk of the mainstream media
>> has been slanted left since circa 1960, going back to the venerable Walter
>> Cronkite who never met a Marxist banana republic he didn't admire?
>

> Nonsense. It doesn't slant left. It merely repulses the erroneous and
> deceitful doctrine of the right. The thing is, there isn't a bit about the
> right that isn't just plain wrong. They have NEVER EVER produced any good.
>

There has been a steady drip of bad news for ObamaCare, but you wouldn't
know it if you only get your news from the Big Three (ABC, CBS, NBC)
networks. From a Society of Actuaries report that determined premium costs
will shoot up thanks to a thirty-three percent average increase in claims;
to thirty-three Senate Democrats joining Republicans in voting to repeal an
ObamaCare tax on medical devices; to a Quinnipiac University poll showing
even two-thirds of self-identified Democrats saying the law will either
hurt them or have no effect, the recent news has been bad for the
President's chief legislative victory.

However, not one of these trouble spots for ObamaCare has been mentioned on
ABC, CBS or NBC's evening or morning show broadcasts.

The following setbacks for ObamaCare haven't received a single second of
air time on the Big Three networks:

■ On March 22, ObamaCare hit a major snag when even 33 Senate Democrats
openly defied the President as they joined 45 Republicans in voting to
repeal a 2.3 percent sales tax, crucial to paying for ObamaCare, on medical
devices such as pacemakers and MRI machines. The measure was co-sponsored
by liberal Minnesota Democrat Amy Klobuchar, who said in a statement that
she would "continue to work to get rid of this harmful tax."

Big Three coverage: 0 stories.

■ On March 26, the Society of Actuaries, released a study that determined
health claims will increase by an average of 32 percent with some states
seeing claims rise as much as 80 percent. The study estimated that states
will now have to double their health spending to cover the millions of the
previously uninsured. The study went on to report that claims will be
driven higher because many employers will stop covering their employees
once Obamacare is instituted and those workers will be more expensive to
insure than those already in the individual market.

Big Three coverage: 0 stories.

■ On March 26, Obama's own Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen
Sebelius admitted that premiums will rise for some people buying new
insurance policies in the coming fall, because of ObamaCare requirements.
As the March 26 Wall Street Journal reported: "The secretary's remarks are
among the first direct statements from federal officials that people who
have skimpy health plans right now could face higher premiums for plans
that are more generous."

Big Three coverage: 0 stories.

■ On April 3 Fox News reported that the Obama administration admitted a
system of exchanges designed to make it simpler for small businesses to
provide health insurance, the very core of ObamaCare's promise, will be
delayed an entire year. According to Jim Capretta of the Ethics and Public
Policy Center this is a huge setback because: "Lots of small businesses
struggle with providing insurance for their workers so this was supposed to
facilitate it and make it easier for small business to do this," and added:
"It was a huge portion of the sale job. When they passed the law in 2010
there were many senators and members of Congress who were saying 'I am
doing this because it's going to help small businesses.'"

Big Three coverage: 0 stories.

■ On April 4 Quinnipiac University released a poll showing that even
two-thirds of Democrats now believe Obama's health care reforms will either
hurt them personally or have no effect on their daily lives, vs. 27% of
Democrats who believed they would be helped. Overall, only 15% of voters
think ObamaCare will mostly help them personally, vs. 78% who expect it to
hurt them or have no effect.

Big Three coverage: 0 stories.

Here are a few of the positive Team Obama items the networks deemed more
important to cover:

■ ABC's April 4 Good Morning America devoted a full segment to discussing
the First Lady's hairstyle, as co-anchor Robin Roberts teased: "Next up in
our GMA Heat Index. Michelle Obama making headlines again for her bangs."

■ On CBS's April 3 edition of This Morning, Jan Crawford, in discussing Joe
Biden's 2016 presidential prospects, relayed how voters have found the Vice
President's penchant for gaffes "almost endearing."

■ NBC's April 2 Today show highlighted a clip of Al Roker singing "Put a
Little Love in Your Heart" with Michelle Obama and celebrity chef Anne
Burrell at the White House Easter Egg Roll.

[Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 00:12:38 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:

> On 3-Jun-2013, "Don't smoke; eat well; exercise; die anyway"

> <EatDrink&BeM...@AnywhereAnytime.net> wrote:

>>
>> Socialist future, eh comrade. Because that'w what the democratic party
>> has
>> devolved into.
>>
>

> So what? Who cares?

Those of us who have to support you.

Duh.

[Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey]

On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 02:51:07 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:

> Educated people know

Educated? Actually, you meant to say "indoctrinated."

Indoctrinated into leftist brainwash by the blame America school system of
the past 40 years.

Sort of like Jihadis being ginned up by the Mullahs to die for Allah to
realize the glories of 72 virgins.

Or pre-1960s Catholic school kids being brainwashed by the nuns that to
leave the Faith in favor of protestantism was a ticket to hell.

[Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 12:33:56 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:

> On 4-Jun-2013, "Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey"

> Because it is such an honor to be allowed to do so?

That's the prevailing moonbat belief.

Albeit incorrect.

[Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey]

On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 02:51:07 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:

> On 2-Jun-2013, "Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey"

> <Proggie...@everywhere.net> wrote:
>
>> In other words, real Americans do not support today's Dem platform. The
>> dem party is not the party I joined in 1965 as did my ancestors previously
>> who are probably turning over in their graves. It ain't the party of
>> Adlai
>> Stevenson, Scoop Jackson, or JFK.
>>
>

> Who cares about Stevenson or JFK. They are both dead and almost forgotten.

Men die but ideals live on.

The democrat party was for the working man, but socialism does not and
never has benefitted the working person.

[Joe Cooper]

"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in

news:Taprt.194069$EL.1...@fed12.iad:

> Not that Republicans would ever know the difference since they don't
> work.

Please don't feed the troll.

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[Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey]

> Actually it is you who are incorrect. It is a definite honor to support the
> Democratic party.

Because "You beez a victim and iz entitled."

The RINOS are indeed disgraceful, caving-in to the socialists time and
again.

Why I became Independent after leaving the dems after 48 yrs.

[Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 17:09:08 GMT, Kirby Grant wrote:

> On 4-Jun-2013, "Same Shit; Different Day; Fuck Obama; Hey, Hey, Hey"

> Not that Republicans would ever know the difference since they don't work.

Yep, the ideals of the dem party became corrupted over the yrs. and now we
have a piece of shit whose philosophical mentor was Frank Marshall Davis;
logistics advisor was Saul Alinsky; bosom buddy is Bill Ayres; and
spiritual advisor is Rev'rum Wright.

Anyone surprise why the piece of shit behaves the way he does?