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Nelson J. Navarro

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Mar 3, 2003, 7:36:54 PM3/3/03
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Hello,

I'm wondering what are the gun laws in Uruguay? Is a citizen allowed to own
a rifle, for example? Thank you.


El Llanero Solidario

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Mar 3, 2003, 8:05:43 PM3/3/03
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"Nelson J. Navarro" <nnav...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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You can buy and own a gun. You are not allowed to own big caliber guns
(armas de guerra). Guns up to .38 are no problem. Are you planning to
buy?;-)

Jorge


Nelson J. Navarro

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Mar 3, 2003, 10:11:46 PM3/3/03
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I was thinking of moving to Uruguay, and I was wondering if I could bring a
couple of rifles that I have.
I have an M1 carbine and a Colt AR-15.

Regards,
Nelson

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Alfredo 2

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Mar 4, 2003, 1:54:11 AM3/4/03
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en las maniobras de la paloma usabamos carabinas M-1.....

El Llanero Solidario

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> en las maniobras de la paloma usabamos carabinas M-1.....

Pobres presos!

Jorge


El Llanero Solidario

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"Nelson J. Navarro" <nnav...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> I was thinking of moving to Uruguay, and I was wondering if I could bring
a
> couple of rifles that I have.
> I have an M1 carbine and a Colt AR-15.
>
> Regards,
> Nelson
Nope! Unless you're willing to bribe the customs & excise officer...

Jorge

ferrarix

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Mar 4, 2003, 4:45:28 PM3/4/03
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It's better for everybody if u leave ur weapons at home. Social balance in
Uruguay is pretty critical nowadays. We need ideas to keep people in peace,
instead of weapons.

Uruguayan people is basically pacific, so u don't need ur guns...

Regards,

Fexx
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Jorge Weigel

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Mar 4, 2003, 11:26:32 PM3/4/03
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Alguien llego' a ir al Poligono de Tiro Ciudadano alla' atras del Cerrito? O
estoy hablando de cosas demasiado viejas? :)

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El Llanero Solidario

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> Alguien llego' a ir al Poligono de Tiro Ciudadano alla' atras del Cerrito?
O
> estoy hablando de cosas demasiado viejas? :)

Qué épocas aquellas!
Era en el cuartel aquel que estaba en Chimborazo y San Martín...
Había una cancha de fútbol en la parte de atrás.

Jorge


Luis de Miami

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Mar 4, 2003, 9:09:22 PM3/4/03
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mmm "El Parral" estaba por ahi ???


Luis


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Jorge Weigel

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Mar 5, 2003, 1:29:16 AM3/5/03
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Es cierto Tocayo...
Todavia me acuerdo del que te entregaba las balas. Era un indio grandote, el
sargento Benitez, cuidaba la municio'n como si fuera la madre. Los M-1 no me
llamaban la atencio'n, y preferia los Mauser 7mm., que dicho sea de paso
eran modelo 1909! :)
Barata era la cosa! Por "chirolas" te pasabas toda la tarde y salias sordo y
de hombro tullido.
Todo era muy ordenadito hasta que algun pirincho aterrizaba cerca de los
blancos, o se cruzaba algun perro sin imaginarse en la que se meti'a.
Entonces aquello pareci'a guerra!
Tambien recuerdo cuando se ensan~aban con el palito que el milico usaba para
marcar cada impacto. ¡De apuro se lo hacian esconder a pura bala!
Pucha que' tiempos! :)

Saludos,
Jorge en NYC

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Alfredo 2

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Mar 5, 2003, 12:42:03 AM3/5/03
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no habia presos.

Alfredo 2

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Mar 5, 2003, 1:25:52 PM3/5/03
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yo iva seguido al poligono. que tiempos aquellos....ya me habia olvidado!

Alfredo 2

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Mar 5, 2003, 1:31:55 PM3/5/03
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why were you thinking in moving to Uruguay? job related? just curious why?
Uruguay is a very nice country but
right now is brankrupt! kaput! finito!
fundido!

Nelson J. Navarro

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Hello Alfredo 2,

I want to move out of the U.S. because I don't like what the U.S. government
is doing in the world.

I'm interested in Uruguay becauce my Father was from Uruguay, and I can
become a citizen there.

I'm sorry to hear that the economy is bad.

Regards,
Nelson

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Vimaf

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Mar 5, 2003, 6:43:30 PM3/5/03
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>Había una cancha de fútbol en la parte de atrás.
>

SI ES CIERTO
ahora mas abajo de la cancha hicieron unas viviendas de ayuda mutua q estan
muy lindas
ahi jugabamos en el campeonato iter empresarial
grandes recuerdos
saludos\edison

me

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People with "big ideas to keep people in peace" usually end up resorting
to
weapons to achieve this. See Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Mao, Saddam
Hussein for examples of this.

"Uruguayan people is basically pacific" .... ignoring the grammatical
errors and general banality of that statement, I will say that crime in
Uruguay has risen as quickly as the economy has descended. This is
especially true in Montevideo.

As for guns of calibers larger than .38 being "Armas de Guerra", that is
Orwellian double-speak. You have been fooled into thinking that
selective fire weapons and larger calibers than .38 are weapons of war,
and now you spout the phrase "Armas de Guerra" as if it was a fact.

He who controls the language controls the ideas, at least when dealing
with the ignorant. Remember aso that guns are not for duck hunting,
they are for tyrant hunting.

Had the Uruguayan populace been well-armed, neither the military
dictatorship nor the Tupas would have succeeded.

"Con una coca y un choripan"


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emilio

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> People with "big ideas to keep people in peace" usually end up resorting
> to
> weapons to achieve this. See Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Mao, Saddam
> Hussein for examples of this.

You forgot to add 2"Bushes" to the celebrity list,

> "Uruguayan people is basically pacific" .... ignoring the grammatical
> errors and general banality of that statement, I will say that crime in
> Uruguay has risen as quickly as the economy has descended. This is
> especially true in Montevideo.

Fuck the gramm!"communikation" is what counts,


> As for guns of calibers larger than .38 being "Armas de Guerra", that is
> Orwellian double-speak. You have been fooled into thinking that
> selective fire weapons and larger calibers than .38 are weapons of war,
> and now you spout the phrase "Armas de Guerra" as if it was a fact.
>
> He who controls the language controls the ideas, at least when dealing
> with the ignorant. Remember aso that guns are not for duck hunting,
> they are for tyrant hunting.

Start shooting at your President


>
> Had the Uruguayan populace been well-armed, neither the military
> dictatorship nor the Tupas would have succeeded.

> That's a very inteligent conclusion, you are a really smart guy....
Nobel prize statment.

> "Con una coca y un choripan"

> mixing cocacola con choripan can (did?)dammage your mental health,try tinto.
> salu2
emilio

ferrarix

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> People with "big ideas to keep people in peace" usually end up resorting
to weapons to achieve this. See Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Mao, Saddam
Hussein for examples of this.

I didn't refer to this kind of ideas. Just to give people the chance to
improve they aknowledgements, or to create new jobs, helping hands. This
could be banal and retorical statements (dont' forget that your head is
empty), but if u really see what people can do, pragmatically, check...

http://www.puentealsur.org.uy/pagina.html


> "Uruguayan people is basically pacific" .... ignoring the grammatical
errors and

Sorry for my poor english; as you can guess, english is not my mother
tongue. I'll try to improve it in my next postings...

>general banality of that statement,

I know that it could seems a banal statement. And what about the point of
view of an asshole who wants to visit a new country and the first thing that
thinks is about local weapons' laws??

I was born and grew up in Montevideo. I lived there for 23 years and I can
assure you that uruguayan people is pacific. Obviously that doesn't mean
that they can be fooled without.

> I will say that crime in Uruguay has risen as quickly as the economy has
descended. This is
> especially true in Montevideo.

so you can stay at home, dude. It's true that violence is rising. Try to
imagine yourself in a similar situation. But it's not carrying guns that you
solve anything.


> Had the Uruguayan populace been well-armed, neither the military
dictatorship nor the Tupas would have succeeded.

This is real bullshit. Please inform yourself about how things happened.
USA populace is well armed, but they are under Bush dictatorship. He don't
need weapons to dominate them. Medias were enough to convince America's
people to start a new war, babe!

Sorry if I'm agressive, but your posting is a compilation of bullshit...

fexx

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El Llanero Solidario

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"Nelson J. Navarro" <nnav...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> It's not your English that's the problem; rather, it's your stupidity.
Ya hace un par de días que me estoy mordiendo los muñones por no
contestarte. Pero esto lo supera todo.
Quién mierda te creés que sos? Este NG es en español, así que si querés
decir algo, lo decís en español. Todavía que se toma la molestia de
contestarte en tu (?) propia (?) lengua, lo cagás a pedos y te burlás de
él... Por qué no escribís en castellano? Tu apellido no me suena muy
anglosajón que digamos...

> If you are a typical example of "person" from "Uruguay", it must be a
really shitty place.
Yes, it's a shitty place, but it's OUR shitty place. Sabés una cosa: andá a
lavarte el orto, gil a cuadros. Killfile contigo!

Jorge


Vimaf

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> If you are a typical example of "person" from "Uruguay", it must be a
>really shitty place.
>Yes, it's a shitty place, but it's OUR shitty place

CHE YANKITO VENDIDO
POR Q NO TE VAS UN POQUITO A LA CONCHA DE TU MADRE?
TE SALVASTES DE ASCO DEL FRASCO DE FORMOL
ASI Q SI QUERES ESCRIBIR EN INGLES ANDA A OTRA PARTE
MARICON
SALUDOS
EDISON

ramin

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Mar 13, 2003, 8:21:21 PM3/13/03
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Hi boys! :)

B4 I start writing I also have 2 say that my english is quite poor so
read twice or better three times b4 u missunderstand me ;)

Nelson, did U write under the nick "me"?
Ferrarix's answer was actually 2 him and not 2 you then.

Most of the uruguayan people I know react quite sensitive if u ask about
having weapons at home (me too). They fascinate me but I wouldnt have
one at home.

Im sorry but I cant help u with information about gun laws, etc. in
Uruguay, actually the only people I know that have guns live in the land
(farmers? dont know the proper word) and they use them for hunting
"perdices, carpinchos and liebres" (can someone translate this please?!) :)
...the only people I know that live in the cities and have guns at home
are militaries or policemen... (of course there has to be others but
having guns at home is just not that common). Of course u will nead a
"weapon-certificate".

Im anyway wondering... maybe u can help me... if you are thinking of
moving to another country (normally) the first questions that come into
your mind are not if u can take your guns with you or not.

> So, it's better to get robbed and stabbed by a street punk, for example,
> than to defend yourself?

Can U define street punk please?
The last time I was in Uruguay I didnt see actually any punks... and as
far as I know (at least here in Aachen, Germany) punks are quite pacific. ;)

Be nice 2 each other...

Saludos,

Celina

Nelson J. Navarro

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"ramin" <ra...@weh.rwth-aachen.de> wrote in message
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> Hi boys! :)
>
> B4 I start writing I also have 2 say that my english is quite poor so
> read twice or better three times b4 u missunderstand me ;)
>
> Nelson, did U write under the nick "me"?
> Ferrarix's answer was actually 2 him and not 2 you then.

Hello Celina,

Yes I know he was answering someone else, but his gratuitous insult was
directed at me.

>
> Most of the uruguayan people I know react quite sensitive if u ask about
> having weapons at home (me too).

I don't know why anyone should be "sensitive" about it. I thought it was a
fair and reasonable question.

They fascinate me but I wouldnt have
> one at home.
>
> Im sorry but I cant help u with information about gun laws, etc. in
> Uruguay, actually the only people I know that have guns live in the land
> (farmers? dont know the proper word) and they use them for hunting
> "perdices, carpinchos and liebres" (can someone translate this please?!)
:)
> ...the only people I know that live in the cities and have guns at home
> are militaries or policemen... (of course there has to be others but
> having guns at home is just not that common). Of course u will nead a
> "weapon-certificate".
>
> Im anyway wondering... maybe u can help me... if you are thinking of
> moving to another country (normally) the first questions that come into
> your mind are not if u can take your guns with you or not.

Well, that certainly wasn't the first question I had, only the first
question that I posted here.
There are websites which answered many of my other questions.

>
> > So, it's better to get robbed and stabbed by a street punk, for example,
> > than to defend yourself?
>
> Can U define street punk please?

I meant someone who preys on others...a "mugger", who would rob you on the
street and perhaps harm you.

> The last time I was in Uruguay I didnt see actually any punks... and as
> far as I know (at least here in Aachen, Germany) punks are quite pacific.
;)

That's good to know.

>
> Be nice 2 each other...

I was trying to be nice.

Regards,
Nelson

Luis de Miami

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Mar 14, 2003, 10:06:28 AM3/14/03
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Despacito Navarrito ...

Pa'que quere un chumbo o matraca no se...tas kolynos??
o te falla la azotea,  seria conveniente le limes la mira al bufoso
si andas en la lleca...digo , por las dudas.
creo que podes comprar algo tobara quizas en el cante, mismo
ahi en Aparicio Saravia y San Martin podes conseguir toda la informacion
mismo en la recepcion te sirven unos quegüis, y ahi no hay riesgo con
la naca. Yo conozco a un pinta que la cana lo cazó y lo mandó para troden
cuando hizo el tramite en otro lado.
Eso si ..... el rrofie se vende taca taca. El bondi 405 o 158 te
dejan en la tapuer.
Aunque yo iria al topuer que el escabio esta de la taplan no hay nada terraja y
no precisas el rrofie ahi, eso si .. no te podes mamar, por que si tenes que ir
al biorci tas jodido por que son chuminga.
Si andas calzado en la lleca podes tener problema con la yuta.
No podes hacer las cosas a la marchanta, es de cajon !
....asi que vas a laburar... vos tas mas rayado que bandeja de faina!!
todo el mundo raja y vos volves?? dichoso de vos .. te envidio.
debes de tener vento, por que sin mosca no lo podrias hacer.
La tagui la tagui !!!
 
perdona mi español pero como veras no es mi lengua materna.. 
Lo voy a ir mejorando en los proximos mensajes.
 
un abrazo Luis
 
 




"Nelson J. Navarro" <nnav...@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:P09ca.625$z_3.3...@news1.news.adelphia.net...
>
> "ferrarix" <a...@123.com> wrote in message
> news:3e6fa30d$1...@news.swissonline.ch...

> > > People with "big ideas to keep people in peace" usually end up resorting
> > to  weapons to achieve this.  See Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Mao, Saddam
> > Hussein for examples of this.
> >
> > I didn't refer to this kind of ideas. Just to give people the chance to
> > improve they aknowledgements, or to create new jobs, helping hands. This
> > could be banal and retorical statements (dont' forget that your head is
> > empty), but if u really see what people can do, pragmatically, check...
> >
> > http://www.puentealsur.org.uy/pagina.html
> >
> >
> > > "Uruguayan people is basically pacific" .... ignoring the grammatical
> > errors and
> >
> > Sorry for my poor english; as you can guess, english is not my mother
> > tongue. I'll try to improve it in my next postings...
>
> It's not your English that's the problem; rather, it's your stupidity.
>
> >
> > >general banality of that statement,
> >
> > I know that it could seems a banal statement. And what about the point of
> > view of an asshole who wants to visit a new country and the first thing
> that
> > thinks is about local weapons' laws??
>
> So, merely asking about gun laws makes me an asshole? Coming from a moron
> like you, I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks.

>
> If you are a typical example of "person" from "Uruguay", it must be a really
> shitty place.
>
> >
> > I was born and grew up in Montevideo. I lived there for 23 years and I can
> > assure you that uruguayan people is pacific. Obviously that doesn't mean
> > that they can be fooled without.
> >
> > > I will say that crime in  Uruguay has risen as quickly as the economy
> has
> > descended.  This is
> > > especially true in Montevideo.
> >
> > so you can stay at home, dude. It's true that violence is rising. Try to
> > imagine yourself in a similar situation. But it's not carrying guns that
> you
> > solve anything.
>

ferrarix

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Perdi el post original, por lo que no se si respondi a la persona justa. De
cualquier manera, los insultos (no gratuitos, sino justificados) eran a la/s
amable/s persona/s que dice/n, entre otras cosas:


1) Pregunta acerca la legislacion uruguaya sobre armas, ya que tiene
intenciones de ir alli. En su otro post decia "I thought it was a fair and
reasonable question".

No se a cuantos de este ng (casi todos afuera) se les ocurrio una idea
semejante en el momento de emigrar


2) "Had the Uruguayan populace been well-armed, neither the military


dictatorship nor the Tupas would have succeeded"

No obstante mi ingles no sea academico, si no me equivoco, esto quiere decir
que si la poblacion uruguaya hubiera estado bien armada, ni la dictadura ni
los Tupas habrian tenido exito. Realmente hay que tener mucha mierda en la
cabeza para afirmar una cosa semejante

3) "Uruguayan people is pacific" is a banality.

Se permite de juzgar pueblos que no conoce.

4) So, it's better to get robbed and stabbed by a street punk, for example,
than to defend yourself?

Es justo gente como vos que necesita Uruguay. Ya que estas, lleva algunos
amiguetes, asi arman una banda de justicieros, no?


Te pido que no me respondas porque vas a seguir diciendo cagadas, por favor.

Sin rencor

Fexx


me

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A ver...

>>general banality of that statement,
>
> I know that it could seems a banal statement. And what about the point
> of view of an asshole who wants to visit a new country and the first
> thing that thinks is about local weapons' laws??
>

To me it sounds like the point of view that he is worried for his
safety, especially when he is about to embark on a journey into the 3rd
world.


> I was born and grew up in Montevideo. I lived there for 23 years and I
> can assure you that uruguayan people is pacific. Obviously that
> doesn't mean that they can be fooled without.
>

It is not that i disagree per se with your "pacific" statement, but more
that I don't see how that differentiates Yoruguas from the rest of
America. Hence my assertion that your statement is devoid of content,
lacking in specific facts, and completely banal - - - although I do
agree that Yoruguas are in general mild mannered and mostly harmless.
That is until they decide to start torturing each other on suspicion of
communism or conversely on suspicion of capitalism. So in that respect
Yoruguas are par for the course for the Southern Cone nations when it
comes to being "pacific". And, if we are to believe in the statistics
of small numbers (which we should not), Yoruguas are way below par for
being banal, apparently.


>
> so you can stay at home, dude. It's true that violence is rising. Try
> to imagine yourself in a similar situation. But it's not carrying guns
> that you solve anything.
>

Carrying a gun, at least in the home, would help to combat the
prevalence of home invasion crimes in Montevideo. If you don't believe
that carrying guns solves anything, then why is there not a sign in
front of your home (or on your person) saying "THIS IS A GUN FREE
ZONE" ?

The truth is that the Charruas with money, living in Punta and Carrasco
are well protected by guns. They have their own guns, their own
security, and enjoy an abundance of gubmint (sic) funded police
protection. Meanwhile the useful idiots (to quote from Joe) blather on
about the futility and worthlessness of guns. Please tell me the last
time that someone robbed an army base in Uruguay, and please tell me why
the banks have armed guards, given your assertion that "it's not

carrying guns that you solve anything."

>
>> Had the Uruguayan populace been well-armed, neither the military
> dictatorship nor the Tupas would have succeeded.
>
> This is real bullshit. Please inform yourself about how things
> happened. USA populace is well armed, but they are under Bush
> dictatorship. He don't need weapons to dominate them. Medias were
> enough to convince America's people to start a new war, babe!

Sorry my beef-eating friend, but you will need a more astute argument
than "This is real bullshit" to convince your readers. If your
assertion that the US is under a "Bush dictatorship" is an example of
the veracity of your arguments, then you may be the one that should

"inform yourself about how things happened".

As to the separate topic of the war about to begin, there are many
newsgroups beating that llegüa to death. Suffice it to say that I am
happy that France's unilateralist efforts to protect their oil and
weapons contracts with Saddam Hussein have failed miserably.


> Sorry if I'm agressive, but your posting is a compilation of
> bullshit...

Hey, no apologies needed. It is not your aggression that you should
apologize for, but your lack of cogent arguments.

Off to enjoy my mate with my thermos under my arm.

ferrarix

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Mar 19, 2003, 6:01:29 PM3/19/03
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Ya te respondi mas arriba en espaniol.

No es que no tengo argumentos. Es que hacer razonamientos articulados en
ingles correcto me llevaria demasiado tiempo; por lo que, visto que andas
con el termo abajo del brazo, contestame en criollo;

Por lo menos decime si lo entendes, asi te explico mi teoria con los
argumentos del caso.

Fexx

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El Llanero Solidario

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No le des pelota Fer. No gatés p;olvora en chimangos.

Jorge

PS: Y por sobre todo: NO COPIES LOS MENSAJES DEL TARADO ESE EN TU
MENSAJE!!!:-)

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Luis de Miami

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Ya le respondi yo tambie en español version UY

Luis

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Dale che, hablamos en lunfardo si queres.... contestame con señales de humo
si te dan las ganas. :)

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