From: Amazons <ama...@earthlink.net>
Anonymous User wrote:
> Naturally when a Jew is confronted with facts they
> cry foul and "anti-semitism."
> Below are news articles from Ukraine as carried by:
> "Union of Councils for Soviet Jews. UCSJ is a
> member of Shamash, the Jewish Internet Consortium."
> <http://www.fsumonitor.com/stories/070699rtrans.shtml>
> <http://www.fsumonitor.com/indices/Ukraine.shtml>
> (Links currently active for purposes of verification - November 6,
> 1999)
> These articles show that Ukrainians have not forgotten
> one bit about the fact that Jewish Bolshevists starved to
> death 7,000,000 of their brethren!
The Ukrainians have not forgotten that the ZHIDS/Soviet
Russians murdered by starvation millions of Ukrainians
in the early thirties, a crime against humanity that
is rivaled only by the German Nazi destruction of millions of
Jews and Christians.
From: Anonymous User <nob...@lobeda.jena.thur.de>
Subject: UKRAINIANS DETEST ZHIDS!!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian
From: "Tavish" <doc_tavish@NOSPAM*******.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Modern Ukrainians Get Their Fill of Yids! [Release 2 For Your
Archives]
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 99 17:04:05 GMT
Foreword from Doc Tavish:
Naturally when a Jew is confronted with facts they
cry foul and "anti-semitism."
Below are news articles from Ukraine as carried by:
"Union of Councils for Soviet Jews. UCSJ is a
member of Shamash, the Jewish Internet Consortium."
<http://www.fsumonitor.com/stories/070699rtrans.shtml>
<http://www.fsumonitor.com/indices/Ukraine.shtml>
(Links currently active for purposes of verification - November 6,
1999)
These articles show that Ukrainians have not forgotten
one bit about the fact that Jewish Bolshevists starved to
death 7,000,000 of their brethren!
Why is the world ignorant of this Hidden Holocaust?
Also visit this link:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=345194538&fmt=text
"Have you ever wondered why Ukrainians volunteered for guard duty?"
The above is a positive MUST read if you all are to
understand the cruel censorship of history by those
that control the major media outlets. There is no
denying that Jews did in fact have a much greater
genocide against gentiles than Nazis had toward Jews!
These facts are almost never
discussed and I want to know why!
Be sure to read the article below which explains
current Ukrainian Justice with these words:
""We destroy the goy swine through the laws
which we wrote, and it dies of starvation, cold,
administrative fines and mass unemployment.
We brilliantly invented a law that considers as
inflaming ethnic hatred the actions of a goy who
is starving and does not keep silent. He has
to be imprisoned. Also, if a goy calls a Yid as "Yid",
it is enough for the Yid start to scream and the goy
is imprisoned again. This is really a brilliant invention."
[The Zhids are engineering such laws for
Americans too! Doc Tavish comment]
Below is unedited and as it appears at the Jewish website:
Antisemitic Articles from the Ukrainian Press
February - March 1999
(July 06, 1999)
Antisemitic Articles from the Ukrainian Press
February-March 1999
Some Lines from a Draft Hymn of Christian Ukraine
The Idealist
#29, February 1999
[Excerpts]
We will give our soul and body for God's son,
And swear that we will not be the Yid's slaves.
Stand up, (God - tr.) rouse yourself on far away stars,
Because tomorrow they will disperse it (Ukraine - tr.)
in different worlds.
Oh, Mighty God, direct upon the Yids
The whole strength and glory of sons of Ukraine!
They say...
that USA will get in a big trouble soon and as a
result they will not be able to help the Yids and that
all the peoples of the world will cast off the
Yids-Masonic yoke.
that 99% of banks and mass media in Ukraine
are in the hands of Yids.
that Yids hate the words Jesus Christ and
The Idealist most of all.
that because of the genocide against the
Ukrainian people, the nation has
lost 3.5 million people during the last 4 years.
Whom do they serve?!
The chief editors of the following Lviv newspapers
refused to inform their readers about the Great
Political Revolt in Ukraine that will begin on July 1, 1999:
Volodimir Gromik, Viruyu.
Grygory Shramko, Lvivsky zaliznychnik.
Stepan Kurpil, Vysoky zamok.
Sergy German, Ratusha.
Leonid Abramovich Tarasenko, Blagovist.
We invite lawyers specializing in labor, housing,
family, civil, civil judicial procedure, administrative,
criminal, criminal judicial procedure laws to give
services for moderate payment to insurgents of
the Great Political Revolt of Ukraine.
Address: Lviv, prospect Shevchenko,13.
Every day from 11 till 17 except Saturday,
Sunday and holidays.
We ask businessmen to redeem a part of
circulation of The Idealist and represent it to
the poorest levels of the population. The Yids
invested billions to build communism and capitalism.
Redeem the proposed copies of the newspaper to
build idealism and we will believe that there
are idealists even among Yids.
The Editorial staff.
The law of Archimedus
Za Vil'nu Ukrainu
#37(1511), March 27, 1999
The Ukrainian social political interpretation.
The force that pushes out a Yid, immersed in
the Ukrainian surrounding, equals millions of
Ukrainians, tormented to death by the Jew-Zionists.
The Yids of the world and world-wide Zionist capital
(the sponsor and organizer of a genocide!) have to
appear in a court of an International tribunal Nurnberg-2.
How much money do the Yids have? It is in the
headline of the article in the "Hadashot" newspaper -
the newspaper of the Ukrainian Association
of Jewish Organizations and Communities.
This article gives the facts of how rich the Yids
are in the modern world. They do not till, dig, or
sow, but they grow rich. It happens on our account
to a considerable extent.
Specialists calculated that the Yids have robbed
Ukraine of at least hundreds of billions of dollars
during this century alone. Matvij Shestopal, a
researcher of the "Chosen People's" role in Ukraine,
mentions in his exhaustive report: "If the Ukrainians
present a claim to the Yids for the evil they committed,
there would not be enough gold in all the banks of the
Old and New World to settle accounts for all of it".
The doctor V. Trembytzkyi (USA) gives more
specific figures of the losses of Ukraine from the
time of the Yid-Bolshevik occupation at 650-810
billion dollars.
"The total World Jewish financial capital is
estimated today as 235 billion dollars.
Jewish financial capital, not taking into account the
capital of Israeli citizens, is about 165 billion dollars.
This information is taken from the first of such reports,
prepared by the governor of the Zionist council in Israel
Arie Has, who is trying to found a bureau to mobilize
Jewish investment.
The Jewish financial capital of USA is 125 billion dollars
(including that of about half of million Israelis who live in
America). The second place in this list is hold by the
Jews of France with their 12 billion dollars, next are
the Jews of Britain with 7.2 billion dollars.
The average level of income for a person in the
Jewish world (!) is 18 thousand dollars per year.
This figure was defined taking into account
Jews from NIS (the Newly Independent States)
and South America. In these countries the average
income is 3,500 dollars per year. The total
number of Jews is 11 million people.
Nowadays 6.5 million Jews are living in the
well-developed states apart from Israel.
The total amount of investments and donations
of the Jews (both in the states where they live and
their foreign investments) is 35 billion dollars per
year. But the investments and donations in Israel
reach only 3.5 billion dollars.
The sources of more than 50% of the total amount
of investments in the economy are the Israeli
government and Israeli businessmen.
The total amount of money that Sochnut gathered
for Israel is 400 million dollars."
"Talmud": "All the property of other nations belongs
to the Yids. That's why the Yids have the right to
take away that property without any resistance.
An orthodox Zhid is not bound with any ethical
obligations. He can behave himself immorally if
it is profitable for him or for other Yids."
(Schulchan Aruch. Chozen Hamiszpat, 348).
Prepared by Pavlo Tchemeris.
Slaughter is a Political Action
The Idealist
#30, March 1999
The slaughter in the market in Lviv on January 20, 1999
was a political action. The analysts of "The Idealist"
chronicle draw such a conclusion after analyzing the
Yids' attempts, repeated for many years, to take the
market for use as a Yid graveyard. The Yid-masons
are ready to kill and imprison few s goys in order to
get their way, especially, if the Yids can do all of it
through goys, who are the neophytes in a policy.
Is it the sabotage of investigators only...?
Someone broke into the editorial office of the
The Idealist chronicle and the Ukrainian Idealist
Organization on the night of January 13, 1999.
Four windows were broken as well as a signboard
of the organization with the image of the trident.
28 days after the incident it was discovered
that the offender was a night-watchman, who
was not even examined by the investigators.
The obvious conclusion is that the generals of the
police and the Ukrainian Security Service do
nothing to solve this crime,
being we ll in with the Yid-masons.
The editorial staff.
Dear editors!
Once Ukraine declared its independence the
strangers came here from all the sides of the
world at once. Due to one of those strangers
I lost my family. My wife got to know a Yid and
moved to the USA. They got married. My former
wife traded me for a Yid and Ukraine for the USA.
The Sokal's court "rewarded" this woman giving
her three quarters of my house for the betrayal of
Ukraine and her own family. That is how the
Yid-communist-mason's court awards betrayers
and prostitutes.
The Lviv Zhids do not Calm Down
The Idealist
March 1999
During a secret meeting, the kahal of the Lviv Oblast's
Office of the Public Prosecutor considered the criminal
case against Mikhail Man'kovskyi, the chief editor of
the chronicle The Idealist and the head of the
Ukrainian Idealist Organization. This case was opened
on September 4, 1998.
The men with peises racked their brains over the
choosing of a judge who could suitably finished six
months of laborious work of the "Chosen People"
and pronounce judgment on a goy under the
criminal code of Ukraine for inciting of ethnic hatred.
So during the meeting, the leader of kahal probably
said, stroking complacently his aquiline nose:
"We destroy the goy swine through the laws which
we wrote, and it dies of starvation, cold, administrative
fines and mass unemployment. We brilliantly invented
a law that considers as inflaming ethnic hatred the
actions of a goy who is starving and does not keep
silent. He has to be imprisoned. Also, if a goy calls
a Yid as "Yid", it is enough for the Yid start to scream
and the goy is imprisoned again. This is really a brilliant
invention. But I do not like in this case that we have to
judge this goy-idealist here, in Lviv, which should be our
capital. It will make some troubles: a pack of goys will
gather here and will start to brandish their flags and
tridents before our windows and call together a crowd
around themselves. But you, my respected half-brothers,
have to know that they are a hungry now and when a
dog is hungry, it always barks loudly. Although we
are not afraid of this racket as we have at our disposal
police and special detachments, but it will not be so
nice to taste the delicacy being prepared for us.
So, in my opinion, we should pass this case to our
brothers in Kyiv. You can be sure they will do their best
and that the goy will get as many years as possible.
Because, as you know, goys are lacking money now,
so our Lviv tramps will not be able to get to Kyiv. We
worked it out too well. So, in a calm environment our
brothers in Kyiv will isolate him from the others for many years."
Listening with deep respect to the criminal specialist,
all agreed with his opinion and sent the criminal case
to the General Prosecutor of Ukraine in Kyiv.
Hey, you, Yid-mason drones, Satan's degenerates,
Devil's retarded persons! Don't you know that we are
Ukrainians, not American natives who were driven into
reservations and eliminated by you? You, brainless
degenerates, started a case in order to drive us, the
local population, into prisons as you managed to do
with the natives. But you didn't foresee that an outburst
of people's indignation can wipe you, blood-suckers of
the nation, off the face of the earth not only in Ukraine,
but in the all states of the world! Instead of looking for
a possibility to talk to us and make a compromise,
you become so impudent that you imagine yourself
sole masters of Ukraine and the managers each
Ukrainian's destiny.
We will give you what-for! We will show you, sons
of the Devil, such a Ukraine that you will forget even
about your Sarahs and your luggage.
You will run away in just your underclothes.
Anyone who doesn't run away in time will pay
for his freedom no less than a million dollars.
I declare a war on you, unclean dogs, even
before the Great Political Rebellion in Ukraine.
Go to hell you and your Satan!
Ivan Shablia.
Ukrainian People!
The Idealist
March 1999
Ukrainian people! Rise from your knees!
Do not demean yourself before the sons of the devil -
the Yid-masons. Stand up for the Holy War for
survival and render to the butcher the things that are the
butcher's and to the God the things that are God's!
Follow the example of Lviv Oblast people and stand up
against the occupational and anti-national gang of
robbers on the 1st, 8th and 15th of July.
The obedience to a robber is a betrayal and a
shameful death.
God will punish us and our descendants for it.
We will be in the Yid-masons' slavery for many years.
It is another case if you, the nation, like to be under
the Yid's power. Just keep silent, sleep and do not
complain about your destiny as a poor Yid's dog,
who barks at his own people, guarding the
Yid's power.
The leadership of the UIO (the Ukrainian Idealist Organization).
The Lackeys of Culture's Orgy
The Idealist
#30, March 1999
When I come to Kyiv and to other cities of
Eastern Ukraine, I am always astounded that
one can hear the Ukrainian language and
buy the Ukrainian newspapers there.
The invasion of Yidification is just staggering.
Once I walked the Lviv's streets. Suddenly,
someone tugged my sleeve. It was a black-haired
Yid who handed me a leaflet entitled
"Good news from Israel", which said that the
Yids love Christ. I told him:
"But it was you who crucified Christ!".
But he was already
proposing his "love" to others.
One can come into any shop and hear the Yid
Shufutinskyi, who cries out in his criminal slang
at the top of his voice. His fellow-tribesman
Gvanetzkyi has the best air time of "1+1"
channel for his affectations. Matvei Golovinskyi
and Sergij Sivoho feel in their element in the
Ukrainian air. They form, that is to say, public opinion."
There is nothing to say about the "gentlemen" from
Odessa and their "Ukraine-wide competition of anecdotes."
One can see a good ten faces of just classical Yids
there all the time. These Yids tell their memories
about their "grandmothers" who told them
disgusting Yid anecdotes. When I turn on
"Svoboda" radio, I hear the voice of Lev Roitman
who uses lofty phrases in a "common language"
(Russian). He tells the entire world, probably, on the
185th anniversary of Taras Shevchenko, what a great
antisemite our kobza-player was. He says that
"several generations of antisemites were cultivated
on Shevcheko's poetry."
Big fireworks displays were organized in Kyiv at the
time of Purim celebration - the holiday of March 8th.
By the way, this holiday was founded by Clara Tzetkin
and Rosa Luxembourg. The "Chosen People" arrived
in the "Ukraine" palace from all quarters, mainly from
Russia, where Makashov and other "goys" do not like
them very much. Clara Novikova and the duet "Academy",
as usual, puffed up indecent topics. What is most important,
it was not in a tavern, but, judging by their dress, in the
presence of a cultured audience, which laughed loudly
upon hearing any dull joke.
The "adornment" of the celebration program was a definition of the
Ukrainian sex-symbol. Could you imagine that it was Arkadij from
Kamenetz-Podol'skyi. This guy was called the camel in the childhood
for his characteristic profile. That is him - our sex-symbol.
So there is something to look at and to think about.
V. Gyzhyj
Zimna Voda village,
Lviv Oblast.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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member of Shamash, the Jewish Internet Consortium.
Please feel free to direct any questions or comments regarding
this website to webm...@ucsj.com
Lindsey P. Taxman, Editor
Yosef I. Abramowitz, Publisher
~~~~~END~~~~~
I surely see that Ukrainians haven't forgotten the deeds of the Yids!
Be absolutely sure to read the link:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=345194538&fmt=text
"Have you ever wondered why Ukrainians volunteered for guard duty?"
Again I must say- The above link is a positive must read! It contains
layer after layer of irrefutable evidence of a hidden holocaust Jews
waged.
Doc Tavish
--
"What sort of truth is it that needs protection?" - Auberon Waugh
The London Daily Telegraph, May 9, 1992
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>From: kenM...@NAMBLA.nazikor.org
>Subject: UKRAINIANS RIGHT TO DETEST ZYDS!!!
>
>From: Amazons
The preceeding posts was, in fact, made by the RACIST FRUITCAKE of
Edmonton, Alberta known as William Grosvenor/Gruber. He is a nutcase
whose FAQ is below and whose e-mail address is:
He posts using only alias re-mailers in the hope that anyone might be
stupid enough to think that his victims will be thought of as the
original posters - needless to say, no one has yet been fooled.
He is well known to the Edmonton City Police and is monitored by them.
GROSVENOR FAQ v0.6, 11/15/96
This FAQ is an attempt to assimilate the Wit and Wisdom of
one William Grosvenor aka William Gruber aka "Anonymous," aka:
2183...@3web.net
ome...@casanostra.com four...@no.spam.com
torqu...@inquisition.com mor...@shamrock.com
sol...@moloch.com rose...@temple.com
klar...@zhid.org saba...@nozhid.org
gayg...@gehenna.zhid.org bjarn...@zhid.org
kenoy...@zhid.org bjarn...@hootmail.org
oyvay...@zhid.org sbjar...@heimat.zhid.org
sbjar...@eretz.zhid.org sbjarn...@nazikor.zhid.orgy
keng...@nazikor.zhid.orgy gol...@gehenna.org
sbjar...@zhid.org bisma...@antizhid.org
KenS...@zhid.oz.org lo...@rakyat.com
chi...@chambre.com koy...@nazikor.orgy
dco...@chambre.com coh...@kammer.com
kad...@kammer.com kaha...@nazikor.niz.org
kenm...@nazikor.niz.org el...@nazikor.nizkook.org
koy...@nazikor.org ma...@alahram.net
pils...@copernic.com coper...@polskiogurki.org
stp...@roma.org stp...@roma.org
cho...@pocciya.com chor...@poccia.com
sbarne...@zhid.fags.org kensi...@zhid.bs.oz
siko...@warzawa.88.net
This FAQ may be freely distributed. (In fact, it makes a
great .sig when replying to Mr. Grosvenor's Usenet posts...)
So now for the questions. Quoted text is indented and
references are noted in brackets (e.g., [1] ) and are listed
at the bottom of this document.
Who Is William Grosvenor?
-------------------------
Let's let Mr. Grosvenor start things off [1]:
------------------------------------------------------------
WILLIAM GROSVENOR
------------------------------------------------------------
Member Since: January 02, 96
Gender: Male
Age: 56 years
Address: Alberta, CANADA
Nationality: British
Birth Place: UK
Profession: International Management Consultant
Education: P.mgr., Fic, Fiaa, Cga
Hobbies: Stamp Collecting, Computers, Travel
Likes: International correspondence
Dislikes: Faggots, policical correct vermin
Wants to be
Friends with: Both Male and Female from Age 25 to 65 years
Relevant: Have lived and worked and owned businesses
throughout Europe, coast to coast in North
America, as well as in several countries of se
Asia
EMAIL: inter...@grosvenor.net
A few observations can be made at this point. First, while
he resides in Canada, he claims British citizenship
(although he has also claimed Canadian citizenship to a
different audience [24]).
Second, he claims to be an "International Management
Consultant", but professional reporters have been unable to
find any clients of Mr. Grosvenor's 'firm'. [25, 26]
Third, his intolerance and bigotry starts to show, e.g., his
dislikes are "Faggots, policical correct vermin".
He Dislikes "Faggots"???
------------------------
As we shall see, he seems to hate just about everyone, but,
first a few select quotes from Mr. G on the topic of
homosexuality. This may eventually lead him to problems with
the Canadian Human Rights Act, which takes a dim view of
such public utterances as these:
You are obviously a diseased faggot, yourself dying of
AIDS.
Your lies will probably cause your diseased brain to
accelerate the death you deserve.[2]
AIDS is definitely one of Mother nature's best ways to
select
only the fittest of the species of mankind to survive.
However, do not forget that AIDS is almost exclusively a
LIFESTYLE CHOICE of those perverts who indulge
themselves as faggots.
AIDS was deliberately spread worldwide by the Canadian
faggot with Air Canada. This is irrefutably documented
in the book "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON". {note: this claim
has been refuted [4]}
Hopefully, all those diseased vermin will soon die, so
that the rest of humanity can go back to doing their
normal activities.[3]
As for faggots, they serve no useful purpose on this
earth, and only in cremation, will their ashes serve
some use as fertliser.[31]
Actually, I am very careful with whom I do
business.Fortunately, faggots do not seem to be
involved, yet, in the stamp business, so I don't have to
deal with any.
Sorry, but I reserve the right as to whom I will deal,and
faggots are not approved by me.[5]
After all, nature created only two normal sexes - male or
female. If you say that you are neither, then you
obviuosly are not human.
As for the other terms used by and for the perverts, that
is their choice.[6]
It looks as though you have more than the normal share of
gall. But then, one must expect perverts to be
abnormal,and even subhuman.
The only good faggot, is an incinerated one. Verstehen
Sie?[7]
Just because there have been criminals, and perverts
throughout history, does not legalise these offensive
vermin.
The best way to get rid of these perverts, is
extermination, by whatever method the state prefers to
use.[8]
Further, in many civilised nations, such as Singapore,
Malaysia, and Saudi Arabia to name a few, sodomy as
practiced by faggots is a criminal offence, with
punishments as prescribed by law.
In Muslim nations, the qu'ranic punishment is usually
stoning to death.
I would suggest that these perverts should be eliminated
in a more practical method for the needs of normal
society.
Suggestions would include:
medical experiments for treatments using new
procedures;
medical experiments for new drugs and treatments;
target practice for the military and police recruits;
target practice for victims to use, in preparing
warning videos to present to children, to show that
the penalty for crimes is death.These would be similar
to the Malaysia & Singapore programs "DADAH IS
DEATH"[9]
These extra benefits for their faggot friends were
brought to you by Herr Stein/Rock, Gray/Graustein, and
Kaplan among others. They were strongly supported by
major members of the World Jewish Congress, who feel
that faggots deserve special rights and privileges, just
as in Sodom and Gommorrah!!![10]
The Jews Are In On This Too?
----------------------------
And then some:
Why are the JEWS allowed to break the laws of sovereign
Quebec?
Did they terrorise some government officials, or were
officials otherwise induced??[11]
So why should the JEWS be allowed to break the provincial
laws? Other religions, such as the majority Christians,
must obey the law, so why not the damn JEWS?[12]
And don't forget that the forerunner organisation of the
KGB was set up by that Polish JEW Louis Dzerzhinski, who
helped elimiate all opponents to communism in the USSR,
including the mass extermination in Ukraine in the
1930's!!!Ther NKVD/KGB were and are mainly
JEWS,still.[13]
It seems that Ostrov just doesn't believe in telling the
truth, which seems to be a failing of those of the
Jewish persuasion, and their lackeys.[14]
What special JEWISH ARITHMETIC is used to increase
several million dollars to SEVEN BILLION?
Is it this special Jewish Arithmetic that increased the
International Red Cross figure of 320,000 to the now
fictitious figure of six millions?[15] {note: the IRC
refutes this claim}
If being Jewish had nothing to do with the biggest tax
scam in Canadian history, then why is it the biggest tax
scam in Canadian history?[16]
Note that not all Jews fit the slimy description, since
there must be some good Jews.[23]
I suggest that you MUST consider the ethnic treatment of
Chinese by thecommunist Canadian government, vis a vis,
the white JEWISH BRONFMANs.[17]
Grosvenor's A Racist, Too?
--------------------------
Yep. Racist and all-around bigot. For instance:
The JEWS think they control Canada, but I believe it is
now about time for the whites in Quebec and Canada to
start to clean their countries.[18]
In view of last night's riots in Montreal,and the
comments of M.Parizeau regarding Jews and
natives,responsible travellers should seriously consider
whether it is safe for non-frenchies in Quebec.
If you must visit Quebec,be sure to bring your flak
jacket.Guns for self-protection are not allowed in
communist Canada,since our government wants only
criminals and natives to have weapons.
In other words,much of Canada is no longer safe for
foreigners who do not speak with a Quebec French
patois.[19]
Cretin is kissing the asses of the frogs in Quebec,and
also those of the native homelands.[20]
Quite frankly,I doubt that it will have much impact on
North Americans.It will reduce the numbers of
Poles,Ukranians,Russians and the like who to many
Slovaks, were undesirables in any case.[21]
Yes, my articles are definitely racist.
You bet, the above points may seem racist, because the
JEWS claim to be a race, not that they are, and the
Chinese are now being victimised to make up for the
frauds of the JEWS.[22]
Is There Anyone Grosvenor Doesn't Hate?
---------------------------------------
Surprisingly, there is. After extensive questioning, he
came up with this list:
Obviously I do not hate Chinese, Malaysians,
Singaporeans, taiwanese, Germans, Iranians and Iraquis,
to name just a few of the groups of people that I
respect.[23]
However, so far he hasn't come up with a rationale for this
choice.
Ironically, Grosvenor's buddies, the Ghermezian brothers,
who we'll meet later, are originally from Iran. Of course,
given what they did to him in court, Grosvenor obviously has
a lot of respect for them.
Anyone Else?
------------
Mr. G also harbours an active dislike of immigrants,
especially those with criminal records, e.g.,
What about the almost 6,000 MINISTER'S PERMITS given out
last year to unqualified people,admitted as so-called
immigrants?
This included more than 1,500 convicted criminals, which
Canada apparently prefers to good workers or
investors!!![32]
As though Canada has not enough criminals, the communist
government of Canada wants to IMPORT MORE!!!
Many of these were of course from Russia,and many were
involved in serious crimes there.
Why should we be bringing in more criminals, when they
are already a serious problem here?[33]
Of course, the irony here is that Mr. G himself *is* an
immigrant with a criminal record.
He's A Criminal?
----------------
Yep. Convictions in Canada for both assault and extortion
[26]. His criminal record before first immigrating to
Canada, if any, is not known, although he changed his name
from Gruber to Grosvenor not long after first arriving in
Canada.
After First Arriving In Canada?
----------------------------------
According to Alberta Report[26], Grosvenor first arrived in
Canada in the mid-1960s. Grosvenor himself has claimed the
year of arrival to be 1965, probably from Newcastle, England
[27].
Where he was in the 1970s is something of a point of
contention. For instance, Alberta Report quotes Grosvenor
as claiming to have been a consultant, "processed for top
secret and military security clearance," to the prime
minister of Malaysia.[26]
Grosvenor has made a number of other claims about this
period, such as:
I am a former Consultant to the Prime Minister of
Malaysia in Finace, Planning, and Economic Development.
Further, in the past I was an official of the Governments
of Indonesia and Taiwan,in Indonesia.[28]
I was a Senior Official of the Government of Malaysia.
Further I was an Official of the Governments of Taiwan,
and of Indonesia.
As a consequence, having lived and worked in S.E.Asia, I
have some feeling for residents of these areas.[29]
yes, I have been an official of the Governments of
Malaysia, Indonesia, and Taiwan.[30]
By the way, I am NOt a student. When I was in Malaysia, I
was a professor, trying to instill some knowledge in
capable students.[31]
So "professor", just how _does_ one spell "finance"? (Note
that Grosvenor has refused repeatedly to give details of
these positions.)
According to Alberta Report, Grosvenor then reappeared in
Canada about 1980 in Edmonton, where he has resided until
the present. [26]
However, Grosvenor disputes this record. For instance:
More lies from the damn JEWS. Since I am a Canadian, I
did NOT immigrate tqice, as the liar claims.[24]
If he didn't immigrate twice to Canada, he must not have
left in the
1970s as he has claimed. Also:
I have been a professional accountant in Canada for more
than 30 years,including consulting on Canadian
taxes.[34]
If we are to believe Grosvenor when he says he came to
Canada in 1965, and if we believe when he says he has spent
"more than 30 years" there, we must come to the conclusion
that he has been in Canada continuously from 1965 until now.
So, how could he also have lived in Asia, as he claims:
First, I have lived and worked in S.E.Asia, in Malaysia,
Singapore, Indonesia and Taiwan.[35]
Who knows? Maybe he's soooo schizophrenic that one
personality remained in Canada while another chose to live
in Asia (and who could blame it for wanting to get as far
away from Grosvenor as it could...).
Hold On Now. He's a Foreigner, Yet Complains About Canada?
-----------------------------------------------------------
Uh-huh. Here's an example:
If you have any sense, you should seriously consider and
AVOID CANADA!!
AVOID CANADA has continued to show that the risks, and
costs of going to Canada will result in a much reduced
lifestyle, compared to living in Hong Kong, Malaysia,
Singapore or other civilised country.
AVOID CANADA details the fact that now in Canada faggots
have special rights. This means that if you do any
business with the government, you MUST hire faggots,even
if with AIDS,no matter about the risk to the lives of
yourself and others.
AVOID CANADA has been presented from the perspective of an
immigrant,since I am one.I lived and worked in SE Asia, in
Malaysia,Indonesia and Taiwan,and understand the important
values of those who succeed.
AVOID CANADA is concerned about traditional family values,
while Canada being communist(have you already forgotten
that former PM Trudeau studied in Moscow), wants to
destroy the traditional family.That is why they give
special rights to faggots and similar perverts.[36]
One thing to note is that even though Grosvenor claims here
to have lived in S.E. Asia (supporting the theory he
immigrated twice to Canada), he also claims that living in
Canada "will result in a much reduced lifestyle". One
wonders why he moved back, in that case.
In any event, Grosvenor's unhappiness with Canada has led
him to lay out plans for his own country, "Canada West", or
more commonly called "Grosvenor-Reich", details of which can
be found on his homepage [37].
Setting aside the issue of whether this foreign national
lobbying for the destruction of Canada is an act of treason
or sedition, it turns out that Grosvenor-Reich would not be
the paradise Mr. G expects. For instance, from his
"Immigration Policy":
IMMIGRATION will be strictly regulated. Only persons
useful to the economy of Western Canada will be admitted.
Criminals, so-called economic refugees, those unable to
support themselves, those with AIDS, and those expected
to be a drain on the taxpayers will not be admitted.
Sponsors of immigrants will be required to deposit a
substantial cash bond with the Government for 10 years,
to cover any costs should the sponsored immigrant ever
become a cost to taxpayers. In fact, those costing
taxpayers while not yet a citizen should be deported to
their country of origin.[37]
Note the part: "Criminals, {...} will not be admitted."
As a criminal immigrant, Mr. G would be the first deported
from his personal fascist state. To paraphrase Groucho
Marx, William Grosvenor would not live in a country which
would have him as citizen...
If He Hates Canada Too, Why Doesn't He Leave?
---------------------------------------------
Oh, he has promised to:
Feel free to get back to me directly,should you wish more
info about the problems of Canada.I will be there just
for a short while longer,before I relocate with all my
businesses.[36]
I will not allow any faggot-loving government to tell me
whom I should deal with, and sooner than allow these
vermin, I am closing down businesses.[38]
Professional, 56 years old wishes to emigrate/relocate.
Skills include professor of accounting & business
management, have owned many businesses around the world,
could also teach English.
Hold British passport,and would prefer relocating to
country where English spoken, such as Ireland,Central
America, or perhaps South America, or S.E.Asia?[39]
Sadly, although lots of people would gladly contribute to
purchasing him a one-way ticket to someplace <anyplace!>
else, Mr. G is not a man of his word. One theory is that
his wife, who owns the house he lives in, would cut off his
allowance if he left, forcing Mr. G to find a job.
He Doesn't Have A Job?
----------------------
While he likes to pretend to be an "international
businessman", e.g., as on his homepage [40]:
The GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL GROUP is a multinational
group of businesses operating worldwide, presently based
in northern Canada. Some of our prominent activities
include:
INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT INC. does
International Management Consulting. It has done
assignments in South East Asia, including Malaysia,
Indonesia and Taiwan.
GROSVENOR STAMP CO. is an international stamps dealer and
auction firm for stamps for collectors. (APS#D138099) We
now do LARGE TRADES / EXCHANGES with dealers and
collectors worldwide. As a service to collectors in
countries where dollars are scarce, we also offer
COMPUTER PROGRAMS IN EXCHANGE FOR STAMPS.
UNIQUE COMPUTER DISTRIBUTING has been an importer and
dealer of computers for more than 16 years.
William Grosvenor , P.Mgr., FIC, FIAA - C.E.O.
GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL GROUP[40]
It turns out that all of Mr. G's businesses are run out of
his wife's house, a modest three-bedroom bungalow in the
Dickensfield neighborhood of Edmonton. Furthermore, with
one exception, none of his "businesses" have phones or can
be found in any business directory [41]. (The phone listing
for his bookkeeping business appears to be the family
number.)
Of course, Mr. G has an explanation for this:
I keep my businesses private, as the law permits,and it
is none of anyone's business how I operate, as long as I
do so legally,as I do.[43]
Another breakthrough from the "INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF
MANAGEMENT INC." (Mr. G's bookkeeping business): Stealth
Marketing -- how better to keep away those pesky potential
customers?
To get an idea of the holdings of the "GROSVENOR
INTERNATIONAL GROUP", we can examine the case of the
Motherboard Upgrade. Over the last year or more, Grosvenor
has been trying to trade an old parachute for a new
motherboard for his computer. Picking up the trail, we
find:
November 5, 1995:
Will sell for best cash offer,or trade for something
useful. Items I am seeking include loaded Motherboard for
DX100 or Pentium; stamp collection;guns; or what
offers?[44]
May 25, 1996:
Want Pentium 133 system or similar such as S86 system, IN
TRADE for items I have,including some extra high res
scanners, etc..[45]
August 12, 1996:
Am looking to TRADE some of my items for a fully featured
Motherboard. Looking for S86 - 120 or 150 Mh board, with
32 Mb RAM.[46]
November 7, 1996:
I collect stamps, coins, starting on guns, but open to
proposals such as good Motherboard with P166 or
equivalent???[47]
You will notice that Grosvenor's requests seem to parallel
developments in the state of PC computing, starting with a
request for a 486 DX100 motherboard, and currently up to a
Pentium166. You will also notice that "UNIQUE COMPUTER
DISTRIBUTING", one of the "GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL GROUP"
of companies, apparently only has one reasonably modern PC,
and is unable to spend a few hundred dollars to upgrade it.
When he's trying to hustle cheap motel rates, Grosvenor also
claims to be "President" of "NORTHSTAR TRAVEL".[41] For
instance:
Have been looking,so far without success,for reasonably
priced - i.e.low cost clean motels,or/and B & B in Maine
and New Brunswick for August.This is in connection with a
preliminary exploratory trip,considering possibility for
group tours of seniors from Western Canada.
So far,low cost,according to mail received,is over US$100
a day,up to $250.per day,per person.Out west we consider
$20 to $40 Canadian reasonable.[41]
$20 Canadian is about $15 American. This will give you a
feel for the financial acumen (!) of the "GROSVENOR
INTERNATIONAL GROUP".
Grosvenor Is Not A Man Of His Word?
-----------------------------------
To put it mildly, yes. For example, take the case of Mr. G
vs. the Ghermezian brothers. The Ghermezian's company,
Triple Five, develops shopping malls, including the West
Edmonton Mall and the Mall of America. In the late 1980s,
the Ghermezians also developed the ire of one William
Grosvenor.
What happened? As Forbes magazine recounted [25]:
Why does he do it? Grosvenor originally told FORBES that
he had been "swindled by Triple Five." But in a more
recent conversation, he said, "They got several lots
rezoned so they could build a lousy strip mall next to my
house."
Of course, this put Grosvenor on the war path. In his
words:
Alberta Report story last month quoted Grosvenor
admitting he intends "to use all means at my disposal
anywhere in the world to put the Ghermezians out of
business."[26]
But wait, you're probably thinking to yourself. Last time
you looked, both West Edmonton Mall and Mall of America were
still in business, thriving, in fact. Why aren't the
Ghermezians out of business yet?
Well, once Mr. G reached the Ghermezian's threshold for
stupidity, they took him to court, although they had some
trouble getting him there:
After returning from West Germany last week, Grosvenor
was holed up in his home in Edmonton's Dickinsfield
neighbourhood, reportedly refusing service of the Triple
Five gag order. The company's lawyers were preparing to
go to court again Monday morning for an order allowing
them to nail the injunction to the door of Grosvenor's
home, which is in fact owned by his wife, Sario.[26]
After this point he caved-in completely, although, according
to Grosvenor, he scared those wimpy billionaires right out
of the courtroom:
An apology was requested, but the lawyers for the Jewish
Ghermezians refused to re-appear in court to finalise any
documents, so none was finalised.[48]
But what Mr. G calls their 'refusal' to re-appear was more
due to the Ghermezians having no need whatsoever to continue
action against him. A more complete story came from the
Edmonton Journal:
William Grosvenor has been found in contempt of a civil
court order not to speak against Triple Five Corp. or
interfere in its business.
Justice Russel Dixon reprimanded Grosvenor, Thursday in
Court of Queen's Bench.
Grosvenor promised to cease and desist from further anti-
Triple Five communications, including any public
references to "Ghermezianville" - a term he used to
describe this City.
Grosvenor also agreed to prepare an apology to Triple
Five.[49]
The next time Grosvenor mouths off about the Ghermezians, he
will face a *second* contempt of court citation which no
Judge is likely to find amusing. Neither would Grosvenor,
who'd probably be taking a lot of long, warm prison showers
after that.
In fact, there is no evidence that Mr. G has made any
negative statements about the Ghermezians since that time.
So much for his vow to put them out of business.
This episode led to international fame for Mr. G when Forbes
magazine labelled him a "roving fruitcake". [25]
"Roving Fruitcake"?
-------------------
Followed by an observation that "Grosvenor does make
occasional forays into sanity".[25] The diagnosis seems to
be official, too. Alberta Report dug up that:
Grosvenor, 48, has a criminal record for assault and
extortion, that he was diagnosed at Riverview Psychiatric
Hospital in British Columbia in 1973 as suffering from a
paranoid personality disorder, and that his harassment of
the Ghermezians is only the latest in a 20-year series of
vendettas against corporations and individuals, including
leading figures of the British Columbia legislature and
judiciary.[26]
How Can I Tell If I'm Successfully Yanking Grosvenor's
Chain?
------------------------------------------------------
It seems that of all the people he hates (and there are
certainly a lot of them), Grosvenor hates Jews the most. If
you find he has corrupted your name to make it sound more
Jewish, you know you've got his working neurons into Rapid
Fire Mode.
So far the Grosvenor Kook-point contest winners are:
Ken McVay (aka "OyVay")
Jason Kodish (aka "Kaddish")
Tim Nye (aka "Neimann/Neiman/Neuman")
Cook (aka "Koch")
Tim Brown (aka "Bronstein")
(and more to be announced)
What's Next?
------------
Eventually, this FAQ will contain a list of Grosvenor's
contradictions (such as the criminal Grosvenor demanding
execution of all criminals, the Grosvenor who hid his assets
to "defeat" creditors demanding that white collar criminals
make full restitution to all their victims, etc.).
As you can imagine, however, this list will probably be
longer than the current FAQ. :-)
Anyway, onward and upward...
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