Dinaburgsky among the 37 Russian Mafia members arrested in Canada & USA -Reuters -10Dec99
Stefan Lemieszewski
The RCMP feel that 44-year old Yury Dinabursky is the alleged kingpin of the more than 40 Russian mafia members arrested on Dec 9, 1999, mainly in Toronto. Dinaburgsky is from Richmond Hill, Ont (just north of Toronto). Richmond Hill, is the town that Boris Birshtein was from before he moved to Switzerland. Birshtein has dealings with mafia oligarch Olexandr Volkov (currently under investigation in Belgium), who is one of Kuchma's key advisors, and behind Kuchma's 1994 and 1999 campaigns.
Stefan Lemieszewski
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http://www.ab.sympatico.ca/news/Fullstories-Reuters/rcn2.html
SYMPATICO NEWSEXPRESS NATIONAL NEWS
Fri, Dec 10th, 1999
Police Arrested 37 In Eastern European Crime Crackdown
By Bessie Ng
TORONTO (Reuters) - Thirty seven people were arrested in Canada and
the
United States Thursday, including the alleged kingpin, in an international
police operation to crush an Eastern European organized crime ring,
police
said.
Superintendent Ben Soave of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police told a
news conference in Toronto that 35 men and women, mostly Eastern
Europeans, were arrested in pre-dawn raids in four Canadian cities.
Two
more suspects were arrested in Seattle and New York State in the United
States.
The suspects face charges ranging from fraud to drug trafficking, he said.
Soave said arrest warrants were outstanding for 17 more people, six
of
whom live in countries outside North America. Most of the arrests made
were
in the Greater Toronto area, he added.
``The problem (organized crime) is a lot more serious and complex than
we,
as Canadians, realise or sometimes admit to ourselves. Today's arrests
are
a wake-up call, a reality check that Canada...is becoming a sanctuary
for
organized criminals,'' Soave said.
The arrests follow a two-year investigation by the Combined Forces Special
Enforcement Unit (CFSEU), made up of Canadian police agencies and
detectives from the Netherlands, Russia, the U.S. Federal Bureau of
Investigation and Drug Enforcement Administration.
More than 100 charges including conspiracy to traffick cocaine, heroin
and
cannabis, conspiracy to commit fraud and commit robbery, and immigration
offences are being investigated by the CFSEU, Soave said.
He said among those arrested was alleged kingpin, 44-year-old Yury
Dinaburgsky of Richmond Hill, Ontario, an affluent town north of Toronto.
``Someone had to be in charge. What I have been told by members of the
Eastern European community is that this is a person who is known as
a
criminal authority. A criminal authority is a person that exerts control
over a
criminal group or in a particular area. Someone has to call the shots,''
said
CFSEU Sergeant Glenn Hanna. Dinaburgsky has been charged with 10
criminal offences including conspiracy to traffic cocaine and heroin,
and
conspiracy to commit fraud, Hanna said. He said the syndicate is also
believed to have been involved in importing and trafficking drugs,
counterfeit
credit cards, casino fraud, immigration visa fraud, production of fake
diamonds and car theft. More than 300 pounds of steroid pills were
seized in
the arrest in New York State. Police alleged that although the syndicate
mainly preyed on Eastern Europeans living in the Greater Toronto area,
they
also committed crimes in Europe, South America, the Caribbean, Russia
and
the Ukraine. Thursday's operation was one of the biggest and ``one
of the
most significant Eastern European organized crime projects in Canada,
perhaps the Western world since the fall of the Soviet Union,'' said
Soave.
He warned that the latest police action did not mean the end of organized
crime in Canada. ''I have to accept and I believe that organized crime
will
never be defeated. It is impossible,'' said Soave.
Stefan Lemieszewski
yper...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu says...
>
>
>Lemieszewski, why do you insist on "Russian mafia" term when even the
>report that you posted refers to "Eastern European organized crime ring"?
>
>And "mafia oligarch Olexandr Volkov (currently under investigation in
>Belgium), who is one of Kuchma's key advisors" has little to do with
>Russia, doesn't he? As far as I know Kuchma is a president of Ukraine.
>
>It does tell a lot about your "impartiality" in reporting, doesn't it?
>
I have answered your first question three times already in other posts.
Nevertheless, wrt to Volkov and the Russian Mafia:
The Russian Mafia operates in many countries. Many gangs cooperate for mutual
benefit. The Belgian investigation has revealed Volkov's commercial ties to the
Russian Mafia, and the Solntsevskaya gang in particular which is influential in
Ukraine as well. Numerous ties have been shown between Volkov and Boris
Birshtein, whose business partner, Sergei Mikhailov, has been identified as the
"leader of the Solntsevskaya criminal syndicate." Author, Jurgen Roth, in his
book on the Russian Mafia titled "The Grey Eminence", cites an FBI report
whereby Birshtein hosted a summit meeting at his Tel Aviv office of Russian
Mafia figures which included Sergei Mikhailov and Semyon Mogilevich. There is
an excellent article about Mogilevich written by Robert I. Friedman, titled
"The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World" (Village Voice;
http://www.villagevoice.com/features/9821/friedman.shtml ). Mogilevich is a
"Russian Mafia" member and was identified by Friedman as a Ukrainian-born Jew
nicknamed "Brainy Don." Recently, he was based in Hungary. Mogilevich's
partner was Vyacheslav Ivankov whose brother-in-law is Vyacheslav Sliva,
mentioned in various recent articles as a key organizer of the Russian Mafia in
Ontario, primarily in Toronto. Boris Birshtein has been identified as a
"Russian Mafia" member and lived in Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada before
moving to Switzerland. Sergei Mikhailov had Russian and Greek citizenships, but
dropped the Greek recently so that he could run for office in the Russian Duma.
According to the LA Times (7Dec99), "Russian and Swiss authorities maintain
Mikhailov is the leader of the notorious Solntsevo group, said to be Russia's
largest mafia organization." Mogilevich also had business dealings with Grigori
Loutchansky, whose company Nordex was identified by the CIA as having business
dealings with "Russian criminal activity." Loutchansky has the distinction of
being the sole subject of a two-day meeting of Interpol involving 11 nations.
The Jerusalem Post reported Loutchansky as a head of the Russian Mafia.
Loutchansky has been identified by various authors as a "Russian" and
"Georgian" and "Latvian.". He describes himself as an "outstanding Jewish
businessman." The Russian Mafia comes in many shapes, and sizes, and
identities.
Stefan Lemieszewski
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http://www.ft.com/hippocampus/q2c3cba.htm
Financial Times
Saturday October 30 1999
UKRAINE: Questions over Kuchma's adviser cast shadows
The Ukrainian president's administration is facing serious allegations
ahead of polls this weekend, writes Charles Clover
Few people in Kiev will speak openly about Olexander Volkov, a top
adviser to President Leonid Kuchma and manager of his campaign for
re-election at polls to be held on Sunday. One well known journalist
will not even say his name out loud, preferring to write it on a scrap of
paper. He is a powerful man.
Mr Volkov, however, has become an issue in the campaign. The
president's opponents claim that Mr Kuchma's 5-year-old
administration has been shot through with corruption and they place
Mr Volkov at the heart of it.
In fact, they claim that with the help of Mr Volkov, Ukraine's industry
has been carved up among sometimes unsavoury insiders connected
to the Kuchma administration. If Mr Kuchma wins a second term, these
concerns are likely to escalate.
Mr Volkov's influence in the Kuchma camp is great. After joining Mr
Kuchma's successful 1994 presidential election campaign, he served
as an official adviser to the new president from 1995-96. In September
1998, he was appointed vice-chair of the Co-ordinating Committee for
Domestic Policy, headed by Mr Kuchma, which currently functions as
Mr Kuchma's election committee.
But concerns about Mr Volkov's business connections have persisted,
including from abroad. Two years ago, in response to a legal
assistance request from Switzerland, a Belgian judge froze $3m in Mr
Volkov's bank accounts in Belgium. The prosecutor's office launched
an investigation.
What they found was that $15m had transited Mr Volkov's Belgian
accounts from 1993-97, and that he also had bank accounts in the UK,
Germany, Monaco, Luxembourg, Switzerland, and the US.
Mr Volkov declined to be interviewed for this article.
No charges have been filed against Mr Volkov, but the Belgians have
asked to come to Ukraine and conduct interviews to determine the
source of some of the money transiting Mr Volkov's accounts. Since
July, they have been waiting for visas but so far in vain.
"Until now, we have had no co-operation at all from the Ukrainian
side," said an official from the Belgian prosecutor's office. "To be
honest, I would say this is due to deliberate obstruction from a very
high level."
The Belgian investigation has revealed Mr Volkov's commercial ties to
figures who western law-enforcement agencies say are associated
with a Russian organised crime syndicate, the Solntsevskaya mafia,
whose influence in Ukraine has grown dramatically since 1994.
Belgian prosecutors confirm that at least $5m of the transfers to Mr
Volkov, starting in September 1994 and ending in January 1996,
came from companies owned by Boris Birshtein or by associates of Mr
Birshtein. It is Mr Volkov's connection with Mr Birshtein that primarily
interests Mr Kuchma's political rivals - and also international law
enforcement authorities. A Russian émigré financier and businessman,
Mr Birshtein is currently being investigated by Antwerp police for
suspected money-laundering.
Mr Birshtein is known to have contributed funds to Mr Kuchma's 1994
election campaign, and has developed business interests in the
Ukraine. He could not be reached for comment for this article.
The Belgian probe found that of the $5m transferred to Mr Volkov's
Belgian bank account, Mr Birshtein's company Seabeco transferred
$2m, while Mr Birshtein's associates transferred $3m.
Mr Volkov first came to the attention of European law enforcement
organisations as part of a Swiss investigation into Mr Birshtein's
business partner, Sergei Mikhailov. Mr Birshtein and Mr Mikhailov
jointly control at least one company, MAB International, registered in
Belgium, according to Swiss police.
In a fax to the Geneva prosecutor on December 6, 1996, the Russian
interior ministry identified Mr Mikhailov as the "leader of the
Solntsevskaya criminal syndicate". Mr Mikhailov was arrested in
Geneva in October 1996. He was charged and tried for alleged
money-laundering and for being a member of an organised crime
organisation but was acquitted in December 1998 for lack of evidence.
During the Swiss investigation of Mr Mikhailov, prosecutors found a
wire transfer from a trading company named Fearnley - owned by an
associate of Mr Mikhailov - to Mr Volkov's account in a Belgian bank in
September 1994. It was this transfer that led to the opening of the
Belgian file on Mr Volkov.
Jurgen Roth, a German writer and researcher, claims in his latest book
on Russian organised crime, The Grey Eminence, published last
month, that as early as November 1994, Mr Birshtein was given a
leading role in organising the distribution of energy supplies in
Ukraine.
Mr Roth cites a report by the US Federal Bureau of Investigation
dated August 1996, and obtained by the FT, which says Mr Birshtein
hosted "a summit meeting of Russian OC [organised crime] figures" at
his office in Tel Aviv from October 10-19, 1995. The FBI confirmed the
authenticity of the report.
Participants in the meeting included Mr Mikhailov and Semion
Mogilevich, who is currently one of the suspects of the
money-laundering investigation involving Bank of New York that
became public last August.
According to the FBI report: "The subject of the meeting was the
sharing of interests in Ukraine."
According to Volodymyr Malinkovitch, who was one of Mr Kuchma's
key advisers for his successful 1994 presidential bid, campaign finance
came from Birshtein's company Seabeco, after Mr Volkov joined the
campaign in February 1994.
These transfers are cited as evidence by Mr Kuchma's political
opponents that Mr Volkov has acted as Mr Birshtein's representative in
dealings with Mr Kuchma earlier in his presidency.
Mr Malinkovitch was unwilling to talk about the reasons for which Mr
Birshtein might have contributed to the 1994 Kuchma campaign. "I
don't want to go into the details, because I am afraid if I did, the western
countries would categorically refuse to give us credits," he said.
Insiders in the Ukrainian security services say any contacts there may
have been between Mr Kuchma and Mr Birshtein would have ended
after January 1997, when Mr Birshtein's visa to Ukraine was revoked.
But even if the links between the Ukrainian government and Mr
Birshtein have now been severed, the questions it has raised about
Mr Kuchma's first term in office are casting shadows over the second,
which most observers believe he has an even chance of winning this
weekend.
L.Gordeev
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, Stefan Lemieszewski wrote:
> yper...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu says...
> >
> >Lemieszewski, why do you insist on "Russian mafia" term when even the
> >report that you posted refers to "Eastern European organized crime ring"?
>
> I have answered your first question three times already in other posts.
> [snip]
> Russian Mafia figures which included Sergei Mikhailov and Semyon Mogilevich.
> There is an excellent article about Mogilevich written by Robert I.
> Friedman, titled "The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World" [snip].
> Mogilevich is a "Russian Mafia" member and was identified by Friedman as
> a Ukrainian-born Jew nicknamed "Brainy Don."
Lemieszewski's nonstandard polish logic is very puzzling indeed.
For we have:
(1) Semyon Mogilevich =
(2) "The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World" =
(3) Ukrainian-born Jew nicknamed "Brainy Don"
(4) is a "Russian Mafia" member.
What is the definition of "Russian Mafia", then ?
L.G
Leonid
> (1) Semyon Mogilevich =
> (2) "The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World" =
> (3) Ukrainian-born Jew nicknamed "Brainy Don"
> (4) is a "Russian Mafia" member.
> What is the definition of "Russian Mafia", then ?
Well, the good news is, L.Gordeev's quite standard anti-semitic (and
apparently pole-bashing) logic isn't puzzling at all.
To answer the question: the definition of "Russian Mafia" can be
something like "an organized crime system issuing from those
geographical parts of the world that can be attributed to the country
formerly known as the USSR--which is the country that was formerly known
as Russia, which, with some purely political modifications, is known as
Russia again. The said political modifications do not affect the
cultural and traditional environment of Russia/USSR/Russia, and so the
new-fangled political units that can be found there (not Russia in the
formal political sense) can be safely considered of a kind with Russia
in cultural terms."
Therefore a Ukrainian-born Mogilevich, a Jew, who was born in
Ukraine--when it was part of the then USSR--and raised under the
then-Soviet regime would have to be considered Russian--all his
(probably non-existent in the traditional/religious sense) jewishness
notwithstanding. I bet Mr Mogilevich's personality has more in common
with his non-jewish cohorts than with, say, an Israeli, or American, or
Iranian Jew. Just as L.Gordeev's thinly veiled innuendos have more in
common with the Russian/Soviet/Russian historical tradition formerly
known as anit-semitism than with something you are likely to hear from a
third-generation ethnic russian in the West.
>
> L.G
L.Gordeev
On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Leonid wrote:
> L.Gordeev wrote:
> > (1) Semyon Mogilevich =
> > (2) "The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World" =
> > (3) Ukrainian-born Jew nicknamed "Brainy Don"
> > (4) is a "Russian Mafia" member.
> > What is the definition of "Russian Mafia", then ?
> > Lemieszewski's nonstandard polish logic is very puzzling indeed.
>
> Well, the good news is, L.Gordeev's quite standard anti-semitic (and
> apparently pole-bashing) logic isn't puzzling at all.
In (1)-(4) I only quoted Lemieszewski's original passages.
If you wish to interrupt others please include the whole text and don't
replace the lines. For this message is a fake.
> To answer the question: [snip]
I didn't ask you Sovok. You can't argue. You're too dishonest for
alt.stupidity.
L.G
Leonid
>
> On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Leonid wrote:
>
> > L.Gordeev wrote:
> > > (1) Semyon Mogilevich =
> > > (2) "The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World" =
> > > (3) Ukrainian-born Jew nicknamed "Brainy Don"
> > > (4) is a "Russian Mafia" member.
> > > What is the definition of "Russian Mafia", then ?
> > > Lemieszewski's nonstandard polish logic is very puzzling indeed.
> >
> > Well, the good news is, L.Gordeev's quite standard anti-semitic (and
> > apparently pole-bashing) logic isn't puzzling at all.
>
> In (1)-(4) I only quoted Lemieszewski's original passages.
> If you wish to interrupt others please include the whole text and don't
> replace the lines. For this message is a fake.
the list of messages.
>
> > To answer the question: [snip]
>
> I didn't ask you Sovok. You can't argue. You're too dishonest for
> alt.stupidity.
Yeah, I love you too. You know that.
>
> L.G
Nana Bukhsianidze
Prediction?
First of all the most important is what Semyon Moglievich thinks: is he
Russian or not? If he thinks he is Russian then he is. If he doesn't then he
is not.
Better call it as Don Parks "evil soviet scum". this is what that mafia is
right now.
nana
Leonid <leo...@worldcom.mci.com> wrote in message
news:3853FF83...@worldcom.mci.com...
> L.Gordeev wrote:
> > (1) Semyon Mogilevich =
> > (2) "The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World" =
> > (3) Ukrainian-born Jew nicknamed "Brainy Don"
> > (4) is a "Russian Mafia" member.
> > What is the definition of "Russian Mafia", then ?
> > Lemieszewski's nonstandard polish logic is very puzzling indeed.
>
> Well, the good news is, L.Gordeev's quite standard anti-semitic (and
> apparently pole-bashing) logic isn't puzzling at all.
>
Kanuk
>
>L.Gordeev wrote:
>> (1) Semyon Mogilevich =
>> (2) "The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World" =
>> (3) Ukrainian-born Jew nicknamed "Brainy Don"
>> (4) is a "Russian Mafia" member.
>> What is the definition of "Russian Mafia", then ?
>> Lemieszewski's nonstandard polish logic is very puzzling indeed.
>
>Well, the good news is, L.Gordeev's quite standard anti-semitic (and
>apparently pole-bashing) logic isn't puzzling at all.
>
Perhaps it might be more appropriately called the "Jewish Mafia" because of the
criminals frequent associations with Israel, Jews in the West and their claims
to being Jewish - as this post found on uk.politics.misc suggests.
--------------------
In article <1999101301...@sol2.tvd.be>,
nob...@club.worldonline.be wrote:
> From: rame...@my-deja.com
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian> Subject: Russian mafia is Jewish mafia
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:13:11 GMT
> The media often talk about the "Russian" mafia as
> if it were made up of Russians.
> In fact it is an exclusively Jewish affair. The latest
> news is that Swiss police are investigating Lev Chernoi.
> No mention is made, of course, of his Jewish nature.
> The Jewish mafia launders over $1 billion into Israeli
> banks and also engages in money laundering in London
> and New York where the banks are (as everyone knows)
> dominated by Jews.
> Many of the Jewish mafia are Israeli
> citizens and have close links to the government. Don't take
> my word for it, hear it from the horse's mouth,
> the Jewish Telegraphic Agency:
> http://www.jta.org/1998/jan/26%2Dmafi.htm
> Of course, the Russian media will not draw attention to
> the Jewish nature of organised crime - it is controlled by
> Jews who themselves have links to the mafia.
> For example, Boris Abramovich Berezovsky controls
> the largest TV network, ORT, and Vladimir Gussinsky
> controls the second largest, NTV - both are Jewish.
> Don't expect the Western media to be any more candid.
> The US media is controlled by Jews. The most important
> news companies are Disney-ABC - headed by Michael Eisner
> (a Jew), Time Warner-CNN - headed by Gerald Levin (a Jew)
> and Viacom-CBS - headed by Sumner Redstone (another Jew).
> The situation is identical in Britain. The big 2 news organisations
> are the BBC and ITN. The BBC's Director of Television is
> Alan Yentob, while the Director of Radio is Jennifer Abramsky -
> both are Jewish. The Director of ITN is Michael Green - another Jew.
> Other aspects of the media in all 3 nations are also dominated by
> Jews.
> Not only are the activities of these criminals bleeding Russia
> of any hope of economic prosperity, they are smearing the
> name of the Russian people. They are the real string pullers
> behind Yeltsin and his cronies. The Russian people should
> decide who are the puppets and who are the enemies of these
> criminals at the forthcoming elections, and vote accordingly.
Kanuk
http://jta.virtualjerusalem.com/index.exe?990212358
>
>> Of course, the Russian media will not draw attention to
>> the Jewish nature of organised crime - it is controlled by
>> Jews who themselves have links to the mafia.
>
>> For example, Boris Abramovich Berezovsky controls
>> the largest TV network, ORT, and Vladimir Gussinsky
>> controls the second largest, NTV - both are Jewish.
>> Don't expect the Western media to be any more candid.
>
>> The US media is controlled by Jews. The most important
>> news companies are Disney-ABC - headed by Michael Eisner
>> (a Jew), Time Warner-CNN - headed by Gerald Levin (a Jew)
>> and Viacom-CBS - headed by Sumner Redstone (another Jew).
>
>> The situation is identical in Britain. The big 2 news organisations
>> are the BBC and ITN. The BBC's Director of Television is
>> Alan Yentob, while the Director of Radio is Jennifer Abramsky -
>> both are Jewish. The Director of ITN is Michael Green - another Jew.
>> Other aspects of the media in all 3 nations are also dominated by
>> Jews.
>
>> Not only are the activities of these criminals bleeding Russia
>> of any hope of economic prosperity, they are smearing the
>> name of the Russian people. They are the real string pullers
>> behind Yeltsin and his cronies. The Russian people should
>> decide who are the puppets and who are the enemies of these
>> criminals at the forthcoming elections, and vote accordingly.
>
The URL for the Jewish Telegraph Agency did not work. I think this is the
article referenced.
Israel trying to deport alleged Russian mobster
http://jta.virtualjerusalem.com/index.exe?990212358
conquistador
"Nana Bukhsianidze" <gr...@nh.ultranet.com> wrote:
> Leonid, I didn't get your point what is this Russia/USSR /Russia?
> Prediction?
> First of all the most important is what Semyon Moglievich thinks: is
he
> Russian or not? If he thinks he is Russian then he is. If he doesn't
then he
> is not.
> Better call it as Don Parks "evil soviet scum". this is what that
mafia is
> right now.
>
> nana
That "evil soviet scum" has hijacked the reins of power in Russia, stole
120 billion big ones from the Treasury, and started a war in Chechnia to
cover up their crime!
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Simeon
> Perhaps it might be more appropriately called the "Jewish Mafia" because of the
> criminals frequent associations with Israel, Jews in the West and their claims
> to being Jewish - as this post found on uk.politics.misc suggests.
mafia is called? It is called Russian not because it employs exclusively
ethnic Russians, but because it issues from Russia. It did not come from
Israel or Us or whatever else, although they may have connections
anywhere they want. But, whatever. What's to prove here? If it is a
jewish mafia, very well, let it be so. You can't deny that there are
plenty of ethnic jews from Russia there.
Stefan Lemieszewski
>
>http://www.ab.sympatico.ca/news/Fullstories-Reuters/rcn2.html
>
>SYMPATICO NEWSEXPRESS NATIONAL NEWS
>Fri, Dec 10th, 1999
>
>Police Arrested 37 In Eastern European Crime Crackdown
>
>By Bessie Ng
>
>TORONTO (Reuters) - Thirty seven people were arrested in Canada and the
>United States Thursday, including the alleged kingpin, in an
>international
>police operation to crush an Eastern European organized crime ring,
>police said.
Additional Names of Arrested:
Toronto
Igor Anisimkin
Grigori Bouzilo
Pavel Cichon
Elizabeth Cudzich
Amir Daniel
Arkadii Kaplan
Mikhal Khanoukaev
Lidia Kociolek
Igor Kordysh
Daria Lounina
Kostyantin Pankratov
Dani Raskin
Artur Slusarz
Elena Tchoukina
Nougzar Toplichvili
Harry Tsoukalas
Richmond Hill
Yury Dinaburgsky
Boris Guenkine
David Prokopets
Mikhail Reyn
Arthur Keoshkedian
Jacek Mucha
Harry Sanis
Iaroslav Strous
Irek Tuniewicz
Thornhill
Vladimir Liberman
Barry Marton
Serguei Mikhalev
Oleg Netchitailo
Svetlana Taboueva
Windsor
Tadeusz Armatowicz
Stanko Rozgaja
Vincenzo Sassano
St. Leonard
Igor Khmil, 45,
Montreal
Tatiana Osipova
Elena Tichkova
Nana Bukhsianidze
conquistador <par...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:839hgk$1fo$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
Does it surprise you? Those guys loved their wider opportunities when USSR
was around. So they will try to catch two birds at the same time.
Influence on Chechen Mafioso activities, control on drug trafficking there
means tale leadership for it), control Caspian oil ( make more money) and
maybe as Clinton using wars to cover up scandals.
nana