What does this word mean?
Dale Holod
I have a very simple request for all you Ukrainian-speaking netters
(in spite of the heritage, I didn't get any of the language at home).
Can anyone tell me what the Ukrainian word HOLOD (of some importance
to me) means in English? I've been curious about this for years,
since occasionally others of U. descent have said stuff like "I think
it means COAL" or some other semi-informed guess.
Anyone know? Many thanks.
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Andrew Ukrainec
(Dale Holod) writes:
>Greetings,
>
>I have a very simple request for all you Ukrainian-speaking netters
>(in spite of the heritage, I didn't get any of the language at home).
>Can anyone tell me what the Ukrainian word HOLOD (of some importance
>to me) means in English? I've been curious about this for years,
>since occasionally others of U. descent have said stuff like "I think
>it means COAL" or some other semi-informed guess.
>
>Anyone know? Many thanks.
There are two possibilities, I think.
HOLOD = hunger, and
KHOLOD = cold.
English doesn't have an equivalent to the Ukrainian cyrillic "x" consonant.
So when the english name was created, it could have been changed from a
"kh" sound to the similar "h" sound.
Maybe the thing to do is check to see if one name is more popular, or
more likely to occur in the Ukrainian community.
Regards,
Andrij
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T.D. Demchuk
HOLOD means famine, or "starve to death through hunger".
Coal in Ukrainian is VOOXLHYA. Hope that answers a few questions.
Thomas Demchuk (Amoco-Houston)
A mis-placed Albertan
Bohdan P Rekshynskyj
Greetings,
Holod - hunger. Sometimes refers to the great "soviet" caused famine in
which at least 7 million Ukrainians died in the period of a year,
in 1933.
Kholod - cold.
The reason why include both words above is that some of us in the "Diaspora"
sometimes mispronounce the word or make a mistake in their usage (eg,
"hustka" instead of "khustka", meaning "scarf", or "large kerchief" such as
the ones worn by boy scouts).
As for the tie in with your last name, I don't know...
Regards,
Bohdan Petro Rekshyns'kyj
Rekshyns'kyj - "Of Rekshyn", a small village in Western Ukraine....
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In a previous article, da...@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Dale Holod) says:
>I have a very simple request for all you Ukrainian-speaking netters
>(in spite of the heritage, I didn't get any of the language at home).
>Can anyone tell me what the Ukrainian word HOLOD (of some importance
>to me) means in English? I've been curious about this for years,
>since occasionally others of U. descent have said stuff like "I think
>it means COAL" or some other semi-informed guess.
HOLOD -- 1) hunger; famine; starvation.
"vidchuvaty holod" - to feel hungry, to feel hunger
slang: to feel peckish.
"moryty holodom" - to hunger, to starve, to famish
"pomyraty vid holodu" - to die of famine; to starve to death
HOLODNYJ - hungry (adjective)
HOLODNYJ POXID - hunger march
HOLODNYJ RIK - a year of famine (scarcity)
HOLODOVKA - hunger strike
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Boris A. Veytsman
>
>Coal in Ukrainian is VOOXLHYA. Hope that answers a few questions.
Actuallu voo-HIl-lya,
where H is the Ukrainian sound close to H and G
Good luck
-Boris
Dale Holod
>
>HOLOD = hunger, and
>KHOLOD = cold.
>
>Andrij
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> Andrew Ukrainec ukra...@nimios.eng.mcmaster.ca
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>Communications Research Laboratory McMaster Univ, Hamilton, Ontario
Many thanks. My dad's parents split from the westernmost part of the
country (I believe it was Galicia at the time) around 1910, I think. I
think the name explains why. BTW, I tried to mail my thanks to you,
rather than waste a post, but I could not get through. Anyway, thanks.
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Myron Hlynka
HOLODNYY means hungry.
HOLOD is often used in describing the terror famine in Ukraine
in 1932-1933.
I'm not sure why someone would have the name
(a) they were very thin and so people thought they
were holodnyy
(b) they had very healthy appetites, so people thought they
must be very holodnyy
(c) they came from an area which had suffered from a famine.
I looked up HOLOD in the Windsor, Ontario phone directory.
There is one person, Steve Holod, listed.
I think that I have come across the name before so it is not
that uncommon.
Myron Hlynka (hly...@server.uwindsor.ca)
Ronald F. Feldstein
Romanian town of this same name and spelling, located a bit to the
south of Oradea.
R. Feldstein