UKRAINIANS DETEST ZHIDS!!!
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Subject: Modern Ukrainians Get Their Fill of Yids! [Release 2 For Your
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 99 17:04:05 GMT
Foreword from Doc Tavish:
Naturally when a Jew is confronted with facts they
cry foul and "anti-semitism."
Below are news articles from Ukraine as carried by:
"Union of Councils for Soviet Jews. UCSJ is a
member of Shamash, the Jewish Internet Consortium."
<http://www.fsumonitor.com/stories/070699rtrans.shtml>
<http://www.fsumonitor.com/indices/Ukraine.shtml>
(Links currently active for purposes of verification - November 6,
1999)
These articles show that Ukrainians have not forgotten
one bit about the fact that Jewish Bolshevists starved to
death 7,000,000 of their brethren!
Why is the world ignorant of this Hidden Holocaust?
Also visit this link:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=345194538&fmt=text
"Have you ever wondered why Ukrainians volunteered for guard duty?"
The above is a positive MUST read if you all are to
understand the cruel censorship of history by those
that control the major media outlets. There is no
denying that Jews did in fact have a much greater
genocide against gentiles than Nazis had toward Jews!
These facts are almost never
discussed and I want to know why!
Be sure to read the article below which explains
current Ukrainian Justice with these words:
""We destroy the goy swine through the laws
which we wrote, and it dies of starvation, cold,
administrative fines and mass unemployment.
We brilliantly invented a law that considers as
inflaming ethnic hatred the actions of a goy who
is starving and does not keep silent. He has
to be imprisoned. Also, if a goy calls a Yid as "Yid",
it is enough for the Yid start to scream and the goy
is imprisoned again. This is really a brilliant invention."
[The Zhids are engineering such laws for
Americans too! Doc Tavish comment]
Below is unedited and as it appears at the Jewish website:
Antisemitic Articles from the Ukrainian Press
February - March 1999
(July 06, 1999)
Antisemitic Articles from the Ukrainian Press
February-March 1999
Some Lines from a Draft Hymn of Christian Ukraine
The Idealist
#29, February 1999
[Excerpts]
We will give our soul and body for God's son,
And swear that we will not be the Yid's slaves.
Stand up, (God - tr.) rouse yourself on far away stars,
Because tomorrow they will disperse it (Ukraine - tr.)
in different worlds.
Oh, Mighty God, direct upon the Yids
The whole strength and glory of sons of Ukraine!
They say...
.that USA will get in a big trouble soon and as a
result they will not be able to help the Yids and that
all the peoples of the world will cast off the
Yids-Masonic yoke.
.that 99% of banks and mass media in Ukraine
are in the hands of Yids.
.that Yids hate the words Jesus Christ and
The Idealist most of all.
.that because of the genocide against the
Ukrainian people, the nation has
lost 3.5 million people during the last 4 years.
Whom do they serve?!
The chief editors of the following Lviv newspapers
refused to inform their readers about the Great
Political Revolt in Ukraine that will begin on July 1, 1999:
Volodimir Gromik, Viruyu.
Grygory Shramko, Lvivsky zaliznychnik.
Stepan Kurpil, Vysoky zamok.
Sergy German, Ratusha.
Leonid Abramovich Tarasenko, Blagovist.
We invite lawyers specializing in labor, housing,
family, civil, civil judicial procedure, administrative,
criminal, criminal judicial procedure laws to give
services for moderate payment to insurgents of
the Great Political Revolt of Ukraine.
Address: Lviv, prospect Shevchenko,13.
Every day from 11 till 17 except Saturday,
Sunday and holidays.
We ask businessmen to redeem a part of
circulation of The Idealist and represent it to
the poorest levels of the population. The Yids
invested billions to build communism and capitalism.
Redeem the proposed copies of the newspaper to
build idealism and we will believe that there
are idealists even among Yids.
The Editorial staff.
The law of Archimedus
Za Vil'nu Ukrainu
#37(1511), March 27, 1999
The Ukrainian social political interpretation.
The force that pushes out a Yid, immersed in
the Ukrainian surrounding, equals millions of
Ukrainians, tormented to death by the Jew-Zionists.
The Yids of the world and world-wide Zionist capital
(the sponsor and organizer of a genocide!) have to
appear in a court of an International tribunal Nurnberg-2.
How much money do the Yids have? It is in the
headline of the article in the "Hadashot" newspaper -
the newspaper of the Ukrainian Association
of Jewish Organizations and Communities.
This article gives the facts of how rich the Yids
are in the modern world. They do not till, dig, or
sow, but they grow rich. It happens on our account
to a considerable extent.
Specialists calculated that the Yids have robbed
Ukraine of at least hundreds of billions of dollars
during this century alone. Matvij Shestopal, a
researcher of the "Chosen People's" role in Ukraine,
mentions in his exhaustive report: "If the Ukrainians
present a claim to the Yids for the evil they committed,
there would not be enough gold in all the banks of the
Old and New World to settle accounts for all of it".
The doctor V. Trembytzkyi (USA) gives more
specific figures of the losses of Ukraine from the
time of the Yid-Bolshevik occupation at 650-810
billion dollars.
"The total World Jewish financial capital is
estimated today as 235 billion dollars.
Jewish financial capital, not taking into account the
capital of Israeli citizens, is about 165 billion dollars.
This information is taken from the first of such reports,
prepared by the governor of the Zionist council in Israel
Arie Has, who is trying to found a bureau to mobilize
Jewish investment.
The Jewish financial capital of USA is 125 billion dollars
(including that of about half of million Israelis who live in
America). The second place in this list is hold by the
Jews of France with their 12 billion dollars, next are
the Jews of Britain with 7.2 billion dollars.
The average level of income for a person in the
Jewish world (!) is 18 thousand dollars per year.
This figure was defined taking into account
Jews from NIS (the Newly Independent States)
and South America. In these countries the average
income is 3,500 dollars per year. The total
number of Jews is 11 million people.
Nowadays 6.5 million Jews are living in the
well-developed states apart from Israel.
The total amount of investments and donations
of the Jews (both in the states where they live and
their foreign investments) is 35 billion dollars per
year. But the investments and donations in Israel
reach only 3.5 billion dollars.
The sources of more than 50% of the total amount
of investments in the economy are the Israeli
government and Israeli businessmen.
The total amount of money that Sochnut gathered
for Israel is 400 million dollars."
"Talmud": "All the property of other nations belongs
to the Yids. That's why the Yids have the right to
take away that property without any resistance.
An orthodox Zhid is not bound with any ethical
obligations. He can behave himself immorally if
it is profitable for him or for other Yids."
(Schulchan Aruch. Chozen Hamiszpat, 348).
Prepared by Pavlo Tchemeris.
Slaughter is a Political Action
The Idealist
#30, March 1999
The slaughter in the market in Lviv on January 20, 1999
was a political action. The analysts of "The Idealist"
chronicle draw such a conclusion after analyzing the
Yids' attempts, repeated for many years, to take the
market for use as a Yid graveyard. The Yid-masons
are ready to kill and imprison few s goys in order to
get their way, especially, if the Yids can do all of it
through goys, who are the neophytes in a policy.
Is it the sabotage of investigators only...?
Someone broke into the editorial office of the
The Idealist chronicle and the Ukrainian Idealist
Organization on the night of January 13, 1999.
Four windows were broken as well as a signboard
of the organization with the image of the trident.
28 days after the incident it was discovered
that the offender was a night-watchman, who
was not even examined by the investigators.
The obvious conclusion is that the generals of the
police and the Ukrainian Security Service do
nothing to solve this crime,
being we ll in with the Yid-masons.
The editorial staff.
Dear editors!
Once Ukraine declared its independence the
strangers came here from all the sides of the
world at once. Due to one of those strangers
I lost my family. My wife got to know a Yid and
moved to the USA. They got married. My former
wife traded me for a Yid and Ukraine for the USA.
The Sokal's court "rewarded" this woman giving
her three quarters of my house for the betrayal of
Ukraine and her own family. That is how the
Yid-communist-mason's court awards betrayers
and prostitutes.
The Lviv Zhids do not Calm Down
The Idealist
March 1999
During a secret meeting, the kahal of the Lviv Oblast's
Office of the Public Prosecutor considered the criminal
case against Mikhail Man'kovskyi, the chief editor of
the chronicle The Idealist and the head of the
Ukrainian Idealist Organization. This case was opened
on September 4, 1998.
The men with peises racked their brains over the
choosing of a judge who could suitably finished six
months of laborious work of the "Chosen People"
and pronounce judgment on a goy under the
criminal code of Ukraine for inciting of ethnic hatred.
So during the meeting, the leader of kahal probably
said, stroking complacently his aquiline nose:
"We destroy the goy swine through the laws which
we wrote, and it dies of starvation, cold, administrative
fines and mass unemployment. We brilliantly invented
a law that considers as inflaming ethnic hatred the
actions of a goy who is starving and does not keep
silent. He has to be imprisoned. Also, if a goy calls
a Yid as "Yid", it is enough for the Yid start to scream
and the goy is imprisoned again. This is really a brilliant
invention. But I do not like in this case that we have to
judge this goy-idealist here, in Lviv, which should be our
capital. It will make some troubles: a pack of goys will
gather here and will start to brandish their flags and
tridents before our windows and call together a crowd
around themselves. But you, my respected half-brothers,
have to know that they are a hungry now and when a
dog is hungry, it always barks loudly. Although we
are not afraid of this racket as we have at our disposal
police and special detachments, but it will not be so
nice to taste the delicacy being prepared for us.
So, in my opinion, we should pass this case to our
brothers in Kyiv. You can be sure they will do their best
and that the goy will get as many years as possible.
Because, as you know, goys are lacking money now,
so our Lviv tramps will not be able to get to Kyiv. We
worked it out too well. So, in a calm environment our
brothers in Kyiv will isolate him from the others for many years."
Listening with deep respect to the criminal specialist,
all agreed with his opinion and sent the criminal case
to the General Prosecutor of Ukraine in Kyiv.
Hey, you, Yid-mason drones, Satan's degenerates,
Devil's retarded persons! Don't you know that we are
Ukrainians, not American natives who were driven into
reservations and eliminated by you? You, brainless
degenerates, started a case in order to drive us, the
local population, into prisons as you managed to do
with the natives. But you didn't foresee that an outburst
of people's indignation can wipe you, blood-suckers of
the nation, off the face of the earth not only in Ukraine,
but in the all states of the world! Instead of looking for
a possibility to talk to us and make a compromise,
you become so impudent that you imagine yourself
sole masters of Ukraine and the managers each
Ukrainian's destiny.
We will give you what-for! We will show you, sons
of the Devil, such a Ukraine that you will forget even
about your Sarahs and your luggage.
You will run away in just your underclothes.
Anyone who doesn't run away in time will pay
for his freedom no less than a million dollars.
I declare a war on you, unclean dogs, even
before the Great Political Rebellion in Ukraine.
Go to hell you and your Satan!
Ivan Shablia.
Ukrainian People!
The Idealist
March 1999
Ukrainian people! Rise from your knees!
Do not demean yourself before the sons of the devil -
the Yid-masons. Stand up for the Holy War for
survival and render to the butcher the things that are the
butcher's and to the God the things that are God's!
Follow the example of Lviv Oblast people and stand up
against the occupational and anti-national gang of
robbers on the 1st, 8th and 15th of July.
The obedience to a robber is a betrayal and a
shameful death.
God will punish us and our descendants for it.
We will be in the Yid-masons' slavery for many years.
It is another case if you, the nation, like to be under
the Yid's power. Just keep silent, sleep and do not
complain about your destiny as a poor Yid's dog,
who barks at his own people, guarding the
Yid's power.
The leadership of the UIO (the Ukrainian Idealist Organization).
The Lackeys of Culture's Orgy
The Idealist
#30, March 1999
When I come to Kyiv and to other cities of
Eastern Ukraine, I am always astounded that
one can hear the Ukrainian language and
buy the Ukrainian newspapers there.
The invasion of Yidification is just staggering.
Once I walked the Lviv's streets. Suddenly,
someone tugged my sleeve. It was a black-haired
Yid who handed me a leaflet entitled
"Good news from Israel", which said that the
Yids love Christ. I told him:
"But it was you who crucified Christ!".
But he was already
proposing his "love" to others.
One can come into any shop and hear the Yid
Shufutinskyi, who cries out in his criminal slang
at the top of his voice. His fellow-tribesman
Gvanetzkyi has the best air time of "1+1"
channel for his affectations. Matvei Golovinskyi
and Sergij Sivoho feel in their element in the
Ukrainian air. They form, that is to say, public opinion."
There is nothing to say about the "gentlemen" from
Odessa and their "Ukraine-wide competition of anecdotes."
One can see a good ten faces of just classical Yids
there all the time. These Yids tell their memories
about their "grandmothers" who told them
disgusting Yid anecdotes. When I turn on
"Svoboda" radio, I hear the voice of Lev Roitman
who uses lofty phrases in a "common language"
(Russian). He tells the entire world, probably, on the
185th anniversary of Taras Shevchenko, what a great
antisemite our kobza-player was. He says that
"several generations of antisemites were cultivated
on Shevcheko's poetry."
Big fireworks displays were organized in Kyiv at the
time of Purim celebration - the holiday of March 8th.
By the way, this holiday was founded by Clara Tzetkin
and Rosa Luxembourg. The "Chosen People" arrived
in the "Ukraine" palace from all quarters, mainly from
Russia, where Makashov and other "goys" do not like
them very much. Clara Novikova and the duet "Academy",
as usual, puffed up indecent topics. What is most important,
it was not in a tavern, but, judging by their dress, in the
presence of a cultured audience, which laughed loudly
upon hearing any dull joke.
The "adornment" of the celebration program was a definition of the
Ukrainian sex-symbol. Could you imagine that it was Arkadij from
Kamenetz-Podol'skyi. This guy was called the camel in the childhood
for his characteristic profile. That is him - our sex-symbol.
So there is something to look at and to think about.
V. Gyzhyj
Zimna Voda village,
Lviv Oblast.
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I surely see that Ukrainians haven't forgotten the deeds of the Yids!
Be absolutely sure to read the link:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=345194538&fmt=text
"Have you ever wondered why Ukrainians volunteered for guard duty?"
Again I must say- The above link is a positive must read! It contains
layer after layer of irrefutable evidence of a hidden holocaust Jews
waged.
Doc Tavish
--
"What sort of truth is it that needs protection?" - Auberon Waugh
The London Daily Telegraph, May 9, 1992
--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish
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Phone nights: (610) 435-9820 to discuss this and related topics
Amazons
>
> From: "Tavish" <doc_tavish@NOSPAM*******.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Subject: Modern Ukrainians Get Their Fill of Yids! [Release 2 For Your
> Archives]
> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 99 17:04:05 GMT
>
> Foreword from Doc Tavish:
>
> Naturally when a Jew is confronted with facts they
> cry foul and "anti-semitism."
>
> Below are news articles from Ukraine as carried by:
> "Union of Councils for Soviet Jews. UCSJ is a
> member of Shamash, the Jewish Internet Consortium."
> <http://www.fsumonitor.com/stories/070699rtrans.shtml>
> <http://www.fsumonitor.com/indices/Ukraine.shtml>
> (Links currently active for purposes of verification - November 6,
> 1999)
>
> These articles show that Ukrainians have not forgotten
> one bit about the fact that Jewish Bolshevists starved to
> death 7,000,000 of their brethren!
........Rest of hate mongering post deleted.......
Get lost you lying hatemonger, the Ukrainians have not forgotten
that the Soviet Russians murdered by starvation millions of
Ukrainians in the early thirties, a crime against humanity that
is rivaled only by the German Nazi destruction of millions of
Jews and Christians. But scum like you are only out to create
hatred between peoples and nations. The Ukrainian people want to
have good relations with all nations, near and far, and are tying to
develop good relations with all of their neigbors including the
still beastial Russians who are today destroying the Chechen nation
as they once tried to destroy the Ukrainians because they want their
land and do not allow the brave Chechens to have their independence.
But scum like you will one day stand before the JUDGEMENT SEAT OF GOD
and give account of your hate mongering and lies.
Isaak Ratner
Ukraine. He told a lot about pogromy against the Jews by Ukrainian
peasants. Of course, I do not blaim them for it; they were ignorant
uncultured rural masses.
>
> From: Amazons <ama...@earthlink.net>
(deleted)
Isaak Ratner
Well. My grandparents told me different stories about how Ukrainians,
idnorant Ukrainian peasants, in particular, "loved" Jewish.
Amazons wrote:
>
> Lying hatemonger Anonymous User wrote:
> >
> > From: "Tavish" <doc_tavish@NOSPAM*******.com>
> > Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> > Subject: Modern Ukrainians Get Their Fill of Yids! [Release 2 For Your
> > Archives]
> > Date: Sat, 6 Nov 99 17:04:05 GMT
> >
> > Foreword from Doc Tavish:
> >
> > Naturally when a Jew is confronted with facts they
> > cry foul and "anti-semitism."
> >
> > Below are news articles from Ukraine as carried by:
> > "Union of Councils for Soviet Jews. UCSJ is a
> > member of Shamash, the Jewish Internet Consortium."
> > <http://www.fsumonitor.com/stories/070699rtrans.shtml>
> > <http://www.fsumonitor.com/indices/Ukraine.shtml>
> > (Links currently active for purposes of verification - November 6,
> > 1999)
> >
> > These articles show that Ukrainians have not forgotten
> > one bit about the fact that Jewish Bolshevists starved to
> > death 7,000,000 of their brethren!
>
Mark Rosenberg
Ukrainians never recognize theit own evil against others and they never
blaim themselves for their own ineptness. They always blaim somebody
else. This it really stupid.
Amazons wrote:
>
> Lying hatemonger Anonymous User wrote:
> >
> > From: "Tavish" <doc_tavish@NOSPAM*******.com>
> > Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> > Subject: Modern Ukrainians Get Their Fill of Yids! [Release 2 For Your
> > Archives]
> > Date: Sat, 6 Nov 99 17:04:05 GMT
> >
> > Foreword from Doc Tavish:
> >
> > Naturally when a Jew is confronted with facts they
> > cry foul and "anti-semitism."
> >
> > Below are news articles from Ukraine as carried by:
> > "Union of Councils for Soviet Jews. UCSJ is a
> > member of Shamash, the Jewish Internet Consortium."
> > <http://www.fsumonitor.com/stories/070699rtrans.shtml>
> > <http://www.fsumonitor.com/indices/Ukraine.shtml>
> > (Links currently active for purposes of verification - November 6,
> > 1999)
> >
> > These articles show that Ukrainians have not forgotten
> > one bit about the fact that Jewish Bolshevists starved to
> > death 7,000,000 of their brethren!
>
Isaak Ratner
own stupidity. There is nothing to do with the Jews.
Ivan Illich
>
> Ukrainians are the most anti-Jewesh people. My grandfather came from
> Ukraine. He told a lot about pogromy against the Jews by Ukrainian
> peasants. Of course, I do not blaim them for it; they were ignorant
> uncultured rural masses.
>
> >
> > From: Amazons <ama...@earthlink.net>
>
> (deleted)
Yanko
Mark Rosenberg <Rose...@mailcity.com> wrote:
> If they love Jews, why they made pogromy against them? I nothiced that
> Ukrainians never recognize theit own evil against others and they
never
> blaim themselves for their own ineptness. They always blaim somebody
> else. This it really stupid.
conclusions? What is really stupid indeed is to write something
of the kind you have written above, Mr Rosenberg.
Yanko
--
"Everything should be made as simple as possible,
but not simpler".
A. Einstein
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Yanko
Isaak Ratner <Ratn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Here we are. All problems Ukrainians encountered originated from their
> own stupidity. There is nothing to do with the Jews.
originated from their own stupidity?
Danko
Yanko <ya...@my-deja.com> wrote in article <81in3g$4bp$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> In article <383C92...@mailcity.com>,
> Mark Rosenberg <Rose...@mailcity.com> wrote:
> > If they love Jews, why they made pogromy against them? I nothiced that
> > Ukrainians never recognize theit own evil against others and they
> never
> > blaim themselves for their own ineptness. They always blaim somebody
> > else. This it really stupid.
> And exactly how many Ukrainians you know to make such far-reaching
> conclusions? What is really stupid indeed is to write something
> of the kind you have written above, Mr Rosenberg.
He takes the same unjustified approach as most of your lot. You see,
Russians are not evil even if some of them are, and Ukrainians are not
saints even if few of them are.
Danko
Danko
Isaak Ratner <Ratn...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<383C8D...@hotmail.com>...
> What is "real Jews?" Interesting.
An ideological escape-concept allowing for accommodation of existing
instances of anti-Semitism within general perception of Ukrainians as
saints. What is interesting though is the fact that such a concept places
the blame with Jews, namely those Jews who fail to be "real".
> Well. My grandparents told me different stories about how Ukrainians,
> idnorant Ukrainian peasants, in particular, "loved" Jewish.
Anti-Semitism is a by-product of Christianity and not directly related to
nations or nationalism. Ask Amazon what he thinks about Judaism, sharing
which is the essence of being a real Jew and you'll see that he is even
worth than ignorant peasants you mention.
Danko
> Amazons wrote:
> >
> > Lying hatemonger Anonymous User wrote:
> > >
> > > From: "Tavish" <doc_tavish@NOSPAM*******.com>
> > > Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> > > Subject: Modern Ukrainians Get Their Fill of Yids! [Release 2 For
Your
> > > Archives]
> > > Date: Sat, 6 Nov 99 17:04:05 GMT
> > >
> > > Foreword from Doc Tavish:
> > >
> > > Naturally when a Jew is confronted with facts they
> > > cry foul and "anti-semitism."
> > >
> > > Below are news articles from Ukraine as carried by:
> > > "Union of Councils for Soviet Jews. UCSJ is a
> > > member of Shamash, the Jewish Internet Consortium."
> > > <http://www.fsumonitor.com/stories/070699rtrans.shtml>
> > > <http://www.fsumonitor.com/indices/Ukraine.shtml>
> > > (Links currently active for purposes of verification - November 6,
> > > 1999)
> > >
> > > These articles show that Ukrainians have not forgotten
> > > one bit about the fact that Jewish Bolshevists starved to
> > > death 7,000,000 of their brethren!
> >
Amazons
>
> Yanko <ya...@my-deja.com> wrote in article <81in3g$4bp$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> > In article <383C92...@mailcity.com>,
> > Mark Rosenberg <Rose...@mailcity.com> wrote:
> > > If they love Jews, why they made pogromy against them?
The Ukrainians *NEVER* made "pogromy" against Jews. The fact of the
matter
is that when Ukrainians rose up against their Polish or Russian
occupiers,
they also fought and killed the collaborators of the enemies of the
Ukrainian
people regardless of their ethnic background or nationality.
> > > I nothiced that
> > > Ukrainians never recognize theit own evil against others and they
> > never
> > > blaim themselves for their own ineptness.
Sounds like you think that the Ukrainians have some Jewish traits as
well. :-)
> > > They always blaim somebody
> > > else. This it really stupid.
Also very Jewish as well! :-)))
> > And exactly how many Ukrainians you know to make such far-reaching
> > conclusions? What is really stupid indeed is to write something
> > of the kind you have written above, Mr Rosenberg.
>
> He takes the same unjustified approach as most of your lot. You see,
> Russians are not evil even if some of them are, and Ukrainians are not
> saints even if few of them are.
When a nation supports evil rulers as does Iraq and Russia today and as
the Germans did during WW II, even though all of its people do not and
all
are not evil, it nevertheless does not mean that that nation at that
time in
history is not evil, on the contrary, because it does support its evil
ruler
that makes it an evil nation and those who war against it do so justly.
Unfortunately as in all wars many innocents perish as well because of
their
evil leaders.
> Danko
>
> > Yanko
Amazons
>
> Isaak Ratner <Ratn...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
> <383C8D...@hotmail.com>...
> > What is "real Jews?" Interesting.
The definition of a real Jew today is as follows, according to the New
Testament:
Romans 2:28-29
For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is circumcision
that which is outward in the flesh. [29] But he is a Jew who is one
inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit,
not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for
salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the
Greek.
Col. 3:9-11
Do not lie to one another, since you laid aside the old self with
its evil practices, [10] and have put on the new self who is being
renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One who
created him [11] a renewal in which there is no distinction between
Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave
and freeman, but Christ is all, and in all.
1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen RACE, A royal priesthood, a HOLY NATION, a
people for God's own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies
of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
Rev. 2:9
'I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and
the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a
synagogue of Satan.
> An ideological escape-concept allowing for accommodation of existing
> instances of anti-Semitism within general perception of Ukrainians as
> saints.
Only those who receive Christ and are Christians and abide in Him are
saints.
> What is interesting though is the fact that such a concept places
> the blame with Jews, namely those Jews who fail to be "real".
Wrong, Jesus came to the Jews first of all and the first Christians were
Jews. Those who did not receive Christ and rejected God's Son and were
not
born again lost their right to be TRUE JEWS according to God's Word.
Christians, of course, do not hate anyone, especially those "Jews" who
have not yet received Christ but are still in darkness. It is the duty
of Christians to preach the Gospel to all peoples and especially to
those
who are of the House of Israel and it is their duty to call all nations
to
repent of their evil deeds such as the Russians and their beastial
behavior
in Chechnya.
>
> > Well. My grandparents told me different stories about how Ukrainians,
> > idnorant Ukrainian peasants, in particular, "loved" Jewish.
And those "Jewish" who collaborated with the occupiers of Ukraine
against the Ukrainian people loved the Ukrainians, such "Jewish"
like Lazar Kaganovich and many others like him?
> Anti-Semitism is a by-product of Christianity
Bald faced Soviet lie!!! And what of the Iranians and Iraqis who really
hate the Jews are they Christians IYO??? And what about the Russians
who
have always been the big supporters of the Arabs against the Jews and
who
still are the principal arms suppliers to the enemies of Israel, are
they
not anti-Semites, or I should say anti-Israel???
> and not directly related to
> nations or nationalism. Ask Amazon what he thinks about Judaism, sharing
> which is the essence of being a real Jew and you'll see that he is even
> worth than ignorant peasants you mention.
What I believe is irrelevant, but what the Word of GOD says is of
paramount importance and it tells us the TRUTH. You of course are not
interested in the Truth just as those who raised you in the Former
Soviet
Union were not.
> Danko
> > Amazons wrote:
> > >
> > > Lying hatemonger Anonymous User wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: "Tavish" <doc_tavish@NOSPAM*******.com>
> > > > Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> > > > Subject: Modern Ukrainians Get Their Fill of Yids! [Release 2 For
> Your
> > > > Archives]
> > > > Date: Sat, 6 Nov 99 17:04:05 GMT
> > > >
> > > > Foreword from Doc Tavish:
> > > >
> > > > Naturally when a Jew is confronted with facts they
> > > > cry foul and "anti-semitism."
> > > >
> > > > Below are news articles from Ukraine as carried by:
> > > > "Union of Councils for Soviet Jews. UCSJ is a
> > > > member of Shamash, the Jewish Internet Consortium."
> > > > <http://www.fsumonitor.com/stories/070699rtrans.shtml>
> > > > <http://www.fsumonitor.com/indices/Ukraine.shtml>
> > > > (Links currently active for purposes of verification - November 6,
> > > > 1999)
> > > >
> > > > These articles show that Ukrainians have not forgotten
> > > > one bit about the fact that Jewish Bolshevists starved to
> > > > death 7,000,000 of their brethren!
> > >
Susan Cohen
Amazons wrote:
> Danko wrote:
> >
> > Isaak Ratner <Ratn...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
> > <383C8D...@hotmail.com>...
> > > What is "real Jews?" Interesting.
>
> The definition of a real Jew today is as follows, according to the New
> Testament:
Thus off-topic for soc.culture.jewish.
Please delete us from future threads.
Susan Cohen
Amazons wrote:
> Danko wrote:
> >
> > Yanko <ya...@my-deja.com> wrote in article <81in3g$4bp$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> > > In article <383C92...@mailcity.com>,
> > > Mark Rosenberg <Rose...@mailcity.com> wrote:
> > > > If they love Jews, why they made pogromy against them?
>
> The Ukrainians *NEVER* made "pogromy" against Jews. The fact of the
> matter
> is that when Ukrainians rose up against their Polish or Russian
> occupiers,
> they also fought and killed the collaborators of the enemies of the
> Ukrainian
> people regardless of their ethnic background or nationality.
Crap.
>
>
> > > > I nothiced that
> > > > Ukrainians never recognize theit own evil against others and they
> > > never
> > > > blaim themselves for their own ineptness.
>
> Sounds like you think that the Ukrainians have some Jewish traits as
> well. :-)
Sounds like you need to re-read the Xtian bible you try to shove down
inappropriate throats
> > > > They always blaim somebody
> > > > else. This it really stupid.
>
> Also very Jewish as well! :-)))
Just like Jesus, you mean??
Me
>Crap.
Hey Susan! Nice to see you in this ukranian ng too! :)
Some of the trolls here are worse than the ones on scaa, and they are so
darned idiotic its not even worth flaming them sometimes...Even Milton and
Jim Tsou seem more delicious targets than these guys...Anyway, here's a
hearty cheer to you, and have a Happy Hannukah! :)
Danko
Jews at all, for the very concept of being a Jew means to follow Judaism
[and not accepting Christ].
I think Amazons position does shed some light on the Ukrainian nationalism
position on Jews. "Still in the dark" indeed.
Danko
Daimonic
I think the title of this thread is the best and only answer.
Susan Cohen <fla...@his.com> wrote in message
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Igor S.
Susan Cohen wrote in message <384B528F...@his.com>...
>
>
>Amazons wrote:
>
>> Danko wrote:
>> >
>> > Yanko <ya...@my-deja.com> wrote in article
<81in3g$4bp$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>> > > In article <383C92...@mailcity.com>,
>> > > Mark Rosenberg <Rose...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> > > > If they love Jews, why they made pogromy against them?
>>
>> The Ukrainians *NEVER* made "pogromy" against Jews. The fact of the
>> matter
>> is that when Ukrainians rose up against their Polish or Russian
>> occupiers,
>> they also fought and killed the collaborators of the enemies of the
>> Ukrainian
>> people regardless of their ethnic background or nationality.
>
>Crap.
Are you his family doctor? So why do you give us a diagnosis? :)
>
>>
>>
>> > > > I nothiced that
>> > > > Ukrainians never recognize theit own evil against others and they
>> > > never
>> > > > blaim themselves for their own ineptness.
>>
>> Sounds like you think that the Ukrainians have some Jewish traits as
>> well. :-)
>
>Sounds like you need to re-read the Xtian bible you try to shove down
>inappropriate throats
You know, you and people like you are the ones who caused German hatered and
the holocaust. Thank God you're not in the majority.
>
>> > > > They always blaim somebody
>> > > > else. This it really stupid.
>>
>> Also very Jewish as well! :-)))
>
>Just like Jesus, you mean??
You are not only exposing your animalcy and rudeness, but also a lack of
knowledge of your own religion. Judaism does recognize Jesus as a prophet.
>
>> > > And exactly how many Ukrainians you know to make such far-reaching
>> > > conclusions? What is really stupid indeed is to write something
>> > > of the kind you have written above, Mr Rosenberg.
>> >
>> > He takes the same unjustified approach as most of your lot. You see,
>> > Russians are not evil even if some of them are, and Ukrainians are not
>> > saints even if few of them are.
>>
>> When a nation supports evil rulers as does Iraq and Russia today and as
>> the Germans did during WW II, even though all of its people do not and
>> all
>> are not evil, it nevertheless does not mean that that nation at that
>> time in
>> history is not evil, on the contrary, because it does support its evil
>> ruler
>> that makes it an evil nation and those who war against it do so justly.
>> Unfortunately as in all wars many innocents perish as well because of
>> their
>> evil leaders.
>>
>> > Danko
>> >
>> > > Yanko
>
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Susan Cohen wrote in message <384B5168...@his.com>...
>
>
>Amazons wrote:
>
>> Danko wrote:
>> >
>> > Isaak Ratner <Ratn...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
>> > <383C8D...@hotmail.com>...
>> > > What is "real Jews?" Interesting.
>>
>> The definition of a real Jew today is as follows, according to the New
>> Testament:
>
>Please delete us from future threads.
Wrong. Christianty was born in Israel, New Testament's original language is
Old Jewish. That's more than enough to crosspost to Jewish ng.
Susan Cohen
Amazons wrote:
> Those who twist God's word do it to their own destruction.
Better duck.
Amazons
>
> Put simply, according to Amazons "real Jews" are those who are no longer
> Jews at all, for the very concept of being a Jew means to follow Judaism
> [and not accepting Christ].
Shame you can't understand English Danko, try re-reading my post a few
times and maybe, hopefully you will get what the Apostles of God are
trying
to tell you. Those who twist God's word do it to their own destruction.
> I think Amazons position does shed some light on the Ukrainian nationalism
> position on Jews.
You seem to be very stupid indeed Danko as I am neither putting forth
any
"Ukrainian nationalist" position nor any personal one either, I am
quoting
the New Testament and if you can refute what it says or show that I am
wrongly quoting please do present your case.
> "Still in the dark" indeed.
The one who is in the dark, is you, Danko!
But we already know that, don't we?
> Danko
Amazons
>
> Amazons wrote:
>
> > Those who twist God's word do it to their own destruction.
>
Hej Susan, do you still think that the Servant of Isaiah chapter 53 is
the *nation* of Israel? :-)