Is Cibel a Turkish Name?
Mike
Is "Cibel" a Trukish name? What does it mean? What is the right
spelling?
Thanks,
Mike
Baba Bey
>
> Hi everyone,
> Is "Cibel" a Trukish name? What does it mean? What is the right
> spelling?
Sibel is a Turkish name.
It's the Turkish name of the Anatolian goddess Cybele
(see also Subel, Kibel, Cybele, Kybele).
It means "the beauty", "the pretty".
Baba Bey
Sibel is spelled simply as "Sibel" :-) (NOT "Saibl" :-)
Spelling in Turkish is easy: everything is spelled "as written"
(but applies only to Turkish words; of course not to foreign words used in Turkish).
For example the letter C is never spelled as "K" as is done in other languages.
LASTROSE
Mike yazdi:
Yes this is a Turkhis name, but it's writting "s" - SIBEL
there is different means.
a goddes in ancient Turks
ear of wheat
a raindrop
Ali Asker
it.
Turks use this name for the females because females are considered weak
and helpless. The name of such makes the Turk man feel stronger over
woman.
Turkish names usually chosen from the Arabic, muslim names such as
Muhammed, Ahmed, Vasif, Ayse, Zeynep, Fatma etc,
According to Turkish history Turks are not from the Anatolia, they were
exiled people from Mongolia because of their sins!
Cibel = Cybele
Baba Bey
>
> It is a Greek name but I am not really sure if the Greeks still uses it.
You are again talking bullshit, Armenian liar!
Sibel is a classical Turkish name. If you find a Greek with this name than let us know!
> Turks use this name for the females because females are considered weak
> and helpless. The name of such makes the Turk man feel stronger over woman.
"Sibel" (Cybele) is the name of an ancient Anatolian goddess, you primitive dumb idiot!
Therefore it is a girls' name.
> According to Turkish history Turks are not from the Anatolia,
> they were exiled people from Mongolia because of their sins!
Tell us more lies, you P.O.S. Armenian liar!
Mike
spelling should be (so it can be pronounced correctly in English!)
Thanks,
Mike
Baba Bey
>
> If I to write that name in English, what do you think the right
> spelling should be (so it can be pronounced correctly in English!)
Sibel --> "Siebel" or "Seabel"
gogu
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> Hi everyone,
>
> Is "Cibel" a Trukish name?
No.
It's a borrow from the antiquity (=history of other people: Greeks,
Assyrian, Phrygian, Lydian, Persian, Roman, etc) as almost everything in
Turkish history.
It's the Turkish form of the name of the ancient Goddess Cybele.
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Is there any relation between this Turkish form of the name and the Arabic
in the (Egyptian) Abu Sibel temple?...
Was that maybe a temple dedicated to the Goddess Cybele?...
gogu
> If I to write that name in English, what do you think the right
> spelling should be (so it can be pronounced correctly in English!)
Cybele or Sibel I *think* (=not sure) it should read correctly in English.
But there are specialized ngs in Usenet where you can ask your question and
have a certain answer.
rgrds
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> Thanks,
Grand Sen~or
Ali Asker wrote:
> It is a Greek name but I am not really sure if the Greeks still uses
> it.
"Cibel" is not a Turkish name.
There is a big difference between Cibel or Cybele and Sibel.
Yes, Sibel is a Turkish name.
>
> Turks use this name for the females because females are considered weak
> and helpless. The name of such makes the Turk man feel stronger over
> woman.
rubbish, even Kurds use Sibel as girls name for it sound nice in
Turkish.
>
> Turkish names usually chosen from the Arabic, muslim names such as
> Muhammed, Ahmed, Vasif, Ayse, Zeynep, Fatma etc,
or Ali, yes most of Turkish names are Arabic origined but they are
modified for Turkish sounds.
> According to Turkish history Turks are not from the Anatolia, they were
> exiled people from Mongolia because of their sins!
that is not true, Turks by their will choose to become muslim and
migrated from Central Asia to Anatolia, as they fight through their way
they have established several states and empires on the way. They
settled in Anatolia around 1000 and esatblished another empire there
called Ottoman Empire. Ottomans by their just and truthful
administration they have harmonized more than 30 different SPEEs like
Turks, Kurds, Armenians, Albanians, Romans(Rum) etec. But later on
French Revolution infected Ottoman Administration to nationalism and
single culture ploitical structure which they practice in EU nowadays.
After that the empire dissolved and the land devided artifically to
several sectiosn which still those different SPEEs live together, but
now under secularo-fascist mis-administrations which recognise no laws
other than secularist laws to impose all SPEEs, and secularists do NOT
allow any SPEE to make their own laws and implement them to their own
people which was not the case under Ottoman Rule, that's why the
Ottoman rule lasted 700 years. Now the new secularo-fascist imposition
of single law causes ever more divisions of the land of the Ottomans as
we have recently experienced in former Yugoslavi. You see there is no
end to divide under secularo-fascist mis-admisnistrations for there
will olways be more than one SPEE in any political devision of the
lands of ex-Ottomans, for as thet divide they establish another
secularo-fascist mis-edministration ad infinitum...
There is a way out of this madness - to abolish single law
secularo-fascist model of mis-administrations and introduce a
multi-law, multi-cultural natural administration models so that people
live together in harmony and peace without feeling threathened to lose
their identity as a seperate SPEE.
Panta Rhei
> "Ali Asker" the Armenian liar wrote
Before you call anybody again a "liar" again, remember, you Turkish Nazi
pig: you are a PROVEN, SERIAL LIAR!! You primitive pig lie the very moment
you accuse others of being liars! In short, you are a true Turk!
You still have to prove all those lies:
- Prove that those three messages, posted here the other day, are a
"fabricated propaganda message" as you falsely claimed!!!
"How Turks see the pope - II" Message-ID:
<ekfo77$10b9$1...@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr>
HONOR KILLINGS again in TURKEY!!!....
Message-ID: <ekfo4i$108k$1...@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr>
"Turkish diplomacy caught in French dilemma" Message-ID:
<ekfo49$108c$1...@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr>
- Prove that the poster Ali is an Armenian, and not a Kurd!
- Prove that Ali is a "Greco-Armenian PKK propagandist financed by EU funds
Greece and S.Cyprus get from the EU", as you constantly claim!
- Prove that the Turkish newspaper "Hurriyet" is OWNED by Armenians as you
falsely claim, you viciously lying, false, rotten Turkish Nazi swine!!!
- Prove that "someone is killing" my messages!!
- Prove that you "sued" Google!!
- Prove that most Greeks buy their computers in Turkey!
- Prove that the Turkish professor whom you FALSELY quoted, said that "the
religious apes in Turkey (ie. about 20% of the Turks) are unfortunately not
interessted (sic) in any scientific research results re evolution."
- Prove that it is Greece, instead of Turkey, that ranks in wealth below
several African nations as you claimed: "It was shown that it was Greek
which was ranking BELOW several poor african nations!"
Post proof of all your lies, you sick, serial LIAR!!!! You can't!
You are a PROVEN LIAR!!!
gogu
news:sNOdnXjaluST3uXY...@giganews.com...
> "Ali Asker" the Armenian liar wrote
>>
>> It is a Greek name but I am not really sure if the Greeks still uses it.
> You are again talking bullshit, Armenian liar!
> Sibel is a classical Turkish name. If you find a Greek with this name than
> let us know!
There are thousands of "Kiveli" in Greece which is the Greek pronunciation
of the same Goddess...
>> Turks use this name for the females because females are considered weak
>> and helpless. The name of such makes the Turk man feel stronger over
>> woman.
> "Sibel" (Cybele) is the name of an ancient Anatolian goddess, you
> primitive dumb idiot!
LOL
Talking again in front of your mirror;-)
As for your "civilization"...that's already (in)famous around Usenet;-)
As for Cybele, get some education here:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybele
Originally a Phrygian goddess, insofar as the Hellenes were concerned,
Cybele (Greek ??????) was a deification of the Earth Mother who was
worshiped in Anatolia from Neolithic times. Like Gaia (the "Earth") or her
Minoan equivalent Rhea, Cybele embodies the fertile earth, a goddess of
caverns and mountains, walls and fortresses, nature, wild animals
(especially lions and bees). Her title potnia theron, which is also
associated with the Minoan Great Mother, alludes to her ancient Neolithic
roots as "Mistress of the Animals". She becomes a life-death-rebirth deity
in connection with her consort, her son Attis. Her Roman equivalent was
Magna Mater or "Great Mother". Walter Burkert, who treats Meter among
"foreign gods" in Greek Religion (1982, section III.3,4) puts it succinctly:
"The cult of the Great Mother, Meter, presents a complex picture insofar as
indigenous, Minoan-Mycenean tradition is here intertwined with a cult taken
over directly from the Phrygian kingdom of Asia Minor" (p 177).
Save that it reveals that the Greeks considered "Cybele" to be Greek, the
traditional derivation of her name, as "she of the hair" can be ignored, now
that the inscription of one of her Phrygian rock-cut monuments has been read
matar kubileya [1]. The inscription matar occurs frequently in her Phrygian
sites (Burkert). Her name was not original to the Phrygian language,
however, but has been traced to Luwian origin, derived from Kubaba, the name
by which she was known in Carchemish, as Mark Munn has shown in detail (Munn
2004). "The monuments to the Phrygian Mother all belong after the rise of
the Mermnad Lydians, when Kubaba was a sovereign deity at Sardis, known to
Greeks as Kybebe," Munn points out, instancing (Herodotus 5.102.1 and other
Greek sources.
The goddess was known among the Greeks simply as Meter or Meter oreie
("Mountain-Mother"), or, with a particular Anatolian sacred mountain in
mind, Idaea, inasmuch as she was supposed to have been born on Mount Ida in
Asia Minor, or equally Dindymene or Sipylene, with her sacred mountains
Mount Dindymus (in Mysia) or Mount Sipylus in mind.
Cybele's most ecstatic followers were males who ritually castrated
themselves, after which they were given women's clothing and assumed
"female" identities, who were referred to by the third century commentator
Callimachus in the feminine Gallai, and who other contemporary commentators
in ancient Greece and Rome referred to as Gallos or Galli. Her priestesses
led the people in orgiastic ceremonies with wild music, drumming, dancing
and drink. She was associated with the mystery religion concerning her son,
Attis, who was castrated and resurrected. The dactyls were part of her
retinue. Other followers of Cybele, Phrygian kurbantes or Corybantes,
expressed her ecstatic and orgiastic cult in music, especially drumming,
clashing of shields and spears, dancing, singing and shouts, all at night.
Atalanta and Hippomenes were turned into lions by Cybele after having sex in
one of her temples.
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........."...Save that it reveals that the Greeks considered "Cybele" to be
Greek...."......
From the same source:
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Cult history
Anatolia, Greece and Rome
Greek mythographers recalled that Broteas, the son of Tantalus, was the
first to carve the Great Mother's image into a rock-face. At the time of
Pausanias (2nd century CE), a sculpture carved into the rock-face of a spur
of Mount Sipylus was still held sacred by the Magnesians [2].
At Pessinos in Phrygia, an archaic version of Cybele had been venerated as
Agdistis, time out of mind. In 203 BC, the aniconic cult object that
embodied the Great Mother at Pessinos was ceremoniously and reverently
removed to Rome, marking the official beginning of her cult there.
Her cult had already been adopted in 5th century BC Greece, where she is
often referred to euphemistically as Meter Theon Idaia ("Mother of the Gods,
from Mount Ida") rather than by name. Mentions of Cybele's worship are found
in Pindar and Euripides, among others. Classical Greek writers, however,
either did not know of or did not mention the transgendered galli; although
they did know of the castration of Attis.
Cybele's cult in Greece was closely associated with, and apparently
resembled, the cult of Dionysus, whom Cybele is said to have initiated. They
also identified Cybele with the Mother of the Gods Rhea.
Anatolian Cybele
Cybele's Anatolian origins probably predate the Bronze Age.
A figurine found at Çatalhöyük, (Archaeological Museum, Ankara), dating
about 6000, depicts the corpulent and fertile Mother Goddess, in the process
of giving birth while seated on her throne, which has two handrests in the
form of lion's heads. At her shrine at Çatalhöyük she was depicted with the
mural crown that promised she could be a protector of cities.
In the 2nd millennium BC Cybele was known to the Hittites and Hurrians as
Kubaba, the city goddess of Carchemish on the upper Euphrates in the Bronze
Age: "on the basis of inscriptional and iconographical evidence it is
possible to trace the diffusion of her cult in the early Iron Age; the cult
reached the Phrygians in inner Anatolia, where it took on special
significance" (Burkert, III.3.4, p. 177).
In Phrygia Rhea/Cybele was venerated as Agdistis, with a temple at the great
trading city Pessinos, mentioned by the geographer Strabo. It was at
Pessinos that her son and lover Attis was about to wed the daughter of the
king, when Agdistis/Cybele appeared in her awesome glory, and he castrated
himself.
In Archaic Phrygian images of Cybele of the sixth century, already betraying
the influence of Greek style (Burkert), her typical representation is in the
figuration of a building's façade, standing in the doorway. The façade
itself can be related to the rock-cut monuments of the highlands of Phrygia.
She is wearing a belted long dress, a polos (high cylindrical hat), and a
veil covering the whole body. In Phrygia, her usual attributes are the bird
of prey and a small vase. Lions are sometimes related to her, in an
aggressive but tamed manner.
Later, under Hellenic influence along the coastlands of Asia Minor, the
sculptor Agoracritos, a pupil of Pheidias, produced a version of Cybele that
became the standard one. It showed her still seated on a throne but now more
decorous and matronly, her hand resting on the neck of a perfectly still
lion and the other holding the circular frame drum, similar to a tambourine,
(tymbalon or tympanon), which evokes the full moon in its shape and is
covered with the hide of the sacred lunar bull.
Cybele and Attis
The goddess appears alone, 8th-6th centuries BC. Later she is joined by her
son and consort Attis, who incurred her jealousy. He, in an ecstasy,
castrated himself, and subsequently died. Grieving, Cybele resurrected him.
The evergreen pine and ivy were sacred to Attis.
Some ecstatic followers of Cybele, known in Rome as galli, willingly
castrated themselves in imitation of Attis. For Roman devotees of Cybele
Mater Magna who were not prepared to go so far, the testicles of a bull, one
of the Great Mother's sacred animals, were an acceptable substitute, as many
inscriptions show. An inscription of AD 160 records that a certain Carpus
had transported bull's testes from Rome to Cybele's shrine at Lyon, France.
Aegean Cybele
The worship of Cybele spread from inland areas of Anatolia and Syria to the
Aegean coast, to Crete and other Aegean islands, and to mainland Greece. She
was particularly welcomed at Athens. The geographer Strabo (book x, 3:18)
made some useful observations:
"Just as in all other respects the Athenians continue to be hospitable to
things foreign, so also in their worship of the gods; for they welcomed so
many of the foreign rites ... the Phrygian [rites of Rhea-Cybele are
mentioned] by Demosthenes, when he casts the reproach upon Aeskhines' mother
and Aeskhines himself, that he was with her when she conducted initiations,
that he joined her in leading the Dionysiac march, and that many a time he
cried out evoe saboe, and hyes attes, attes hyes; for these words are in the
ritual of Sabazios and the Mother [Rhea]."
In Alexandria, Cybele was worshiped by the Greek population as "The Mother
of the Gods, the Savior who Hears our Prayers" and as "The Mother of the
Gods, the Accessible One." Ephesus, one of the major trading centers of the
area, was devoted to Cybele as early the 10th century BC, and the city's
ecstatic celebration, the Ephesia, honored her.
The goddess was not welcome among the patriarchal Scythians north of Thrace.
From Herodotus (4.76-7) we learn that the Scythian Anacharsis (6th century
BC), after traveling among the Greeks and acquiring vast knowledge, was put
to death by his fellow Scythians for attempting to introduce the foreign
cult of Magna Mater.
Roman Cybele
In Rome, when the worship of Cybele, as Magna Mater, was formally initiated
in 203 BC, Rome was embroiled in the Second Punic War. The previous year, an
inspection had been made of the Sibylline Books, and some oracular verses
had been discovered that announced that if a foreign foe should carry war
into Italy, he could be driven out and conquered if the Mater Magna were
brought from Pessinos to Rome. Publius Cornelius Scipio Nasica was ordered
to go to the port of Ostia, accompanied by all the matrons, to meet the
goddess. He was to receive her as she left the vessel, and when brought to
land he was to place her in the hands of the matrons who were to bear her to
her destination, the Temple of Victory on the Palatine Hill. The day on
which this event took place, 12 April, was observed afterwards as a
festival, the Megalesian. (Livy, History of Rome, circa AD 10)
In Rome, her Phrygian origins were recalled by Catullus, whose famous poem
on the theme of Attis includes a vivid description of Cybele's worship:
"Together come and follow to the Phrygian home of Cybele, to the Phrygian
forests of the goddess, where the clash of cymbals ring, where tambourines
resound, where the Phrygian flute-player blows deeply on his curved reed,
where ivy-crowned maenads toss their heads wildly."
Roman devotion to Cybele ran deep. Not coincidentally, when a Christian
basilica was built over the site of a temple to Cybele, to occupy the site,
it was dedicated as the Basilica di Santa Maria Maggiore.
The worship of Cybele penetrated as far as Mauretania, where, just outside
Setif, the ceremonial "tree-bearers" and the faithful (religiosi) restored
the temple of Cybele and Attis after a disastrous fire in AD 288. Lavish new
fittings paid for by the private group included the silver statue of Cybele
and the chariot that carried her in procession received a new canopy, with
tassels in the form of fir cones. (Robin Lane Fox, Pagans and Christians, p
581.)
Today, a monumental statue of Cybele can be found in one of the principal
traffic circles of Madrid, the Plaza de Cibeles (illustration, upper left).
In Roman mythology, Magna Mater deorum Idaea ("great Idaean mother of the
gods") was the name for the originally Phrygian goddess Cybele, as well as
Rhea.
Her cult moved from Phrygia to Greece from the 6th century to the 4th. In
205 BC, Rome adopted her cult.
Cybele in The Aeneid
In his Aeneid Virgil called her Berecyntian Cybele. She is described as the
mother of the gods.
In the story the Trojans are in Italy and have walled up in a city according
to Aeneas' orders. The leader of the Rutulians, Turnus, orders his men to
burn the ships of the Trojans.
At this point in the story there is a flashback to mount Olympos years
before the Trojan War. After Cybele had given her sacred trees to the
Trojans so that they could build their ships, she went to Zeus begging him
to make the ships unable to be destroyed. Zeus grants her request by saying
that when the ships had finally fulfilled their purpose - bringing Aeneas
and his army to Italy - they would be turned into sea nymphs rather than be
destroyed.
So, as Turnus approached with fire, the ships came to life, dove beneath the
sea and emerged as nymphs.
Cybele the Eunuch
Roman citizens were later forbidden to become priestesses of Cybele, who
were eunuchs like their Asiatic Goddess. In the Legends of Cybele we find
Cybele was a bisexual monster who terrorized the land before he was
castrated and became a eunuch. The Fig was sacred to Cybele, and curiously
is rich in estrogens which was a necessary part of the diet of the
priestesses. They also drank pregnant-mare horse urine, but the fig is
favoured in the legend and is used to get a surrogate woman pregnant to give
birth to Cybele's child, whom she called Attis. Cybele proceeded to dress
Attis as a girl. When he ran off with a woman later in life Cybele gave
pursuit but a place of fortification was barred to her (traditionally walled
hills connected to worship of Diana). Finding the gate barred at this place
of sanctuary, Cybele proceeded to charge the door with her head and in
legend lifted the three concentric walls of the fortress up from their
foundations upon her head which gave rise to the triple-crown of
walled-battlements worn by Cybele (like the walled sanctuary crown of
Diana). Attis was involved in a mystical death and resurrection, and Cybele
nursed him until (s)he was reborn. There was an affinity of a type with the
huntress Diana but also a rivalry in Aisa. Cybele is often shown seated on a
throne being pulled on a chariot by two lions and was considered a
sun-goddess after the line of Belit of the Mesopotamian cult of Bel.
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> Therefore it is a girls' name.
>> According to Turkish history Turks are not from the Anatolia,
>> they were exiled people from Mongolia because of their sins!
> Tell us more lies, you P.O.S. Armenian liar!
???
What lies?!
Not even the more fascist Turks sustain that they are...autochthons in
Anatolia, let alone the Aegean shores!
Even the Turkish history claims your origin from the Altai mountains or
there about!
Like it or not, you have just conquered the land you actually live, you are
*not* autochthons!
Why are you denying the obvious?!
There is even a Museum in Turkey which just inaugurated a new exhibition
named "Genghis Khan and his Heirs - The Great Mongolian Empire" (Sakip
Sabanci Museum)!
As for the Mongolian connection, read this article and you may see that
connection with the Turks:
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http://www.zaman.com/?bl=culture&alt=&trh=20061207&hn=39021
"...Genghis Khan united the Turkish clans and Mongolian tribes around a
confederation that would soon become the Great Mongolian Empire...".
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gogu
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>
> Ali Asker wrote:
>> It is a Greek name but I am not really sure if the Greeks still uses
>> it.
> "Cibel" is not a Turkish name.
> There is a big difference between Cibel or Cybele and Sibel.
Which is.....?
Grand Sen~or
gogu wrote:
> ? "Mike" <mas_i...@yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ??????
> news:1165499845....@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Is "Cibel" a Trukish name?
>
> No.
> It's a borrow from the antiquity (=history of other people: Greeks,
> Assyrian, Phrygian, Lydian, Persian, Roman, etc) as almost everything in
> Turkish history.
> It's the Turkish form of the name of the ancient Goddess Cybele.
this is not true, Turks didn't use pagan idol names. Sibel is not
borrowed from Cybele. It is another Turkish name and has no relation to
Cybele. The only similarity is they sound the same in Turkish. But then
Denis and Deniz sounds same in Turkish as well, can we assert that they
are same or borrowed from each other just for that - no!
Baba Bey
Find them below, you lying Greco-Armenian racistic P.O.S. spammer!
There are some imbecile racistic posters (for example Panta Rhei)
posting via TERANEWS.COM (aka NNTPSERVER.COM).
These sick people even post messages with FORGED QUOTES via teranews.com!
teranews.com unfortunately has not stopped the racistic propaganda of these people.
Now some news servers no longer forward the messages posted via TERANEWS.COM !
I hope this irresponsible news server teranews.com will completely be cut off of the net!
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PROOF: PANTA RHEI (teranews.com) IS LYING LIKE AN ARMENIAN
Panta Rhei, the P.O.S. wrote:
> Prove that it is Greece, instead of Turkey, that ranks in wealth below
> several African nations as you claimed: "It was shown that it was Greek
> which was ranking BELOW several poor african nations!"
> You are a PROVEN LIAR!!!
I never said "wealth", you dumb Armenian liar! Give a proof!
Since you can't prove your lie then this in return proves, again, the lies of Panta Rhei.
(come on, we all know very well how your Armenian propaganda lies work; just see above... :-)
I was meaning this ranking list:
#Message-ID: <N5qdndGAPps...@giganews.com>
#Subject: Freedom of Press in Greece worser than in african Namibia !!!
"
Freedom of Press in Greece is even worser than in african Namibia and many other countries!
This is from the complete list from www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=19388
Rank Score Country
6 2,00 Estonia
8 2,50 Slovakia
11 3,00 Latvia
13 3,00 Slovenia
17 4,50 Bolivia
19 5,00 Bosnia and Herzegovina
22 5,00 Trinidad and Tobago
23 5,50 Benin
25 5,50 Jamaica
26 6,00 Namibia
27 6,50 Lithuania
29 6,67 Costa Rica
30 7,50 Cyprus
31 7,75 South Korea
32 8,00 Greece
It looks like Greece has become a banana republic regarding freedom of press.
And such a country is in the EU ! Unbelievable how they have let them be a member !!!!
:-)
"
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PROOF: Manipulation of News Articles by the Armenian propaganda poster "Ali Asker"
Here is the proof that the Armenian "Ali Asker" has manipulated
news articles from the BBC and posted it to 10 big newsgroups on the Usenet:
THIS IS THE ORIGINAL POSTING OF "ALI ASKER":
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#Kurd unrest escalates in Turkey
#
#
#Hundreds of Kurdish youths have clashed with Turkish police in the town of
#Batman, in a third day of street violence in south-eastern Turkey.
#
#Two thousand riot police used tear gas against the protesters, who threw
#stones and petrol bombs.
#
#The protesters set fire to a bank and built barricades of flaming car tyres.
#
#The violence started in the city of Diyarbakir on Tuesday after the funerals
#of 14 Kurdish rebel fighters killed by security forces.
#
#Thousands gathered on Thursday at a cemetery in Diyarbakir for the funeral
#of three people killed during the week's street violence.
#
#Fresh fighting erupted in the city after the funeral, with some mourners
#pelting police with stones, prompting volleys of tear gas and warning shots
#from them.
#
#At least 250 people have been injured in the protests so far - more than
#half of them police officers, Turkish officials say.
#
#In nearby Batman, an estimated 200,000 people were taking part in a protest
#march when the unrest broke out.
#
#Correspondents say these are the worst street clashes in the region for many
#years.
#
#In Diyarbakir mourners held flags of the outlawed separatist Kurdistan
#Workers' Party (PKK), which called off a unilateral ceasefire almost two
#years ago.
#
#The authorities have reinforced the number of riot police and armoured
#personnel carriers in the city's streets.
#
#
# http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4860154.stm
AND THIS IS THE ORIGINAL NEWS ARTICLE FROM BBC:
#Kurd unrest escalates in Turkey
#
#
#Hundreds of Kurdish youths have clashed with Turkish police in the town of
#Batman, in a third day of street violence in south-eastern Turkey.
#
#Two thousand riot police used tear gas against the protesters, who threw
#stones and petrol bombs.
#
#The protesters set fire to a bank and built barricades of flaming car tyres.
#
#The violence started in the city of Diyarbakir on Tuesday after the funerals
#of 14 Kurdish rebel fighters killed by security forces.
#
#Thousands gathered on Thursday at a cemetery in Diyarbakir for the funeral
#of three people killed during the week's street violence.
#
#Fresh fighting erupted in the city after the funeral, with some mourners
#pelting police with stones, prompting volleys of tear gas and warning shots
#from them.
#
#At least 250 people have been injured in the protests so far - more than
#half of them police officers, Turkish officials say.
#
#In nearby Batman, an estimated 2,000 people were taking part in a protest march
#when the unrest broke out.
#
#Correspondents say these are the worst street clashes in the region for many
#years.
#
#In Diyarbakir mourners held flags of the outlawed separatist Kurdistan
#Workers' Party (PKK), which called off a unilateral ceasefire almost two
#years ago.
#
#The authorities have reinforced the number of riot police and armoured
#personnel carriers in the city's streets.
#
#Story from BBC NEWS:
#http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4860154.stm
#http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/4860154.stm
#Published: 2006/03/30 16:22:33 GMT
#© BBC MMVI
The manipulation is that in original it reads
"In nearby Batman, an estimated 2,000 people were taking part in a protest march"
whereas in "Ali Asker"'s posting it reads
"In nearby Batman, an estimated 200,000 people were taking part in a protest march"
One must ask why he does such blatant manipulations.
Dear community, please judge yourself on what might "Ali Asker"'s goal be when
he does such manipulations to news articles we see countlessly from this guy
in many newsgroups. Ask yourself: does this have anything to do with the truth,
or the ethics of journalism?
Here you can find all postings of and about "Ali Asker":
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=Ali+Asker&qt_s=Search
For the above illegal action he was reported to the Abuse Dept
of his ISP/NSP at http://bbplus.ntlworld.com/NetReport/
My advice to all democratic thinking people:
Nobody should accept such manipulations of the truth, and therefore always
should report "Ali Asker" for each and any of his manipulated and unlawful postings.
#######################################################
PROOF: The PKK is a worldwide outlawed terrorist organization.
It is listed in terrorist lists of nearly all countries of the world,
except Armenia and SouthCyprus...
PKK is a proscribed terrorist organization! Proof:
Kongra-Gel (KGK, formerly Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK, KADEK, DHKP-C) is
listed in the following terrorist lists:
http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/37191.htm
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/security/terrorism-and-the-law/terrorism-act/proscribed-groups
http://www.psepc.gc.ca/prg/ns/le/cle-en.asp
http://www.statewatch.org/terrorlists/terrorlists.html
http://www.statewatch.org/terrorlists/listslatest.html
http://www.esrcheck.com/articles/article.php?article_id=TerroristSearchandPatriotAct.htm
You are NOT allowed to make glorification ads for such terrorist organizations!
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PROOF that the Armenian "Ali Asker" is a lying terrorist supporter who even
misuses the Kurds and Greeks for the Armenian Anti-Turkish propaganda.
The Armenian propaganda machinery just works this way: by misusing others!
"Ali Asker" is a paid Armenian propagandist playing the role of a Kurd and
publicy supporting the terror organisation PKK, as terror serves their plans...
He even says that he too is a terrorist, see below. There are more such postings
from this guy in the archive.
In newsgroups these low-lifes take the roles of Greeks, Frenchmen, and others
to "increase" the effect of their Anti-Turkish lie propaganda on the net.
Ie. by impersonating others, as wolves in sheeps' clothing... :
# From: "Ali Asker" <pasa_...@kurdistan.kd>
# Newsgroups: alt.politics.greens,alt.politics.usa.congress,alt.security.terrorism,
# soc.culture.british,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.kurdish,
# soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.usa
# References: <cBf%f.36720$g76....@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net> <e1kfb1$eqe$03$1...@news.t-online.com>
# Subject: Re: Manipulated news articles from "Ali Asker", the terrorist supporter
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"BabaTurk" wrote
...
# > Shall I post the posting where you state that you are a terrorist
# > supporter, even call yourself a terrorist ?
#
# I do not support terrorism or the terrorists. I never have and I never will!
# If you are man enough, post the links that where I say I support the
# terrorists.
...
And this is the proof of both his lying and he being a terrorist supporter:
# Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail
# From: pasa_...@lycos.com (Ali Asker)
# Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.kurdish,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.iraq
# Subject: Re: Kuwerdish contribution to Oscar 2005
# Date: 2 Oct 2004 04:55:12 -0700
# Organization: http://groups.google.com
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#
# We are the TERRORISTS...
#
# We will divide Iran, Turkey, Syria and Iraq in to the pieces until
# ever single individual is free from thought control, torture and
# brain-washing! Every nation should have their own land where they can
# practice their own culture. Iran has consist of about 20 some
# different nations and we will tore them in to 20 different countries
# and give mollahs a small land where they can practice their barbaric
# religion to themselves and only harm temselves.
#
# WE WILL BREAK IRAN IN TO THE PIECES!!!
#
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THE PROOF THAT "Ali Asker" IS AN ARMENIAN WHO IMPERSONATES KURDS!
The Armenian propaganda machinery just works this way: by misusing others!
"Ali Asker" is a paid Armenian propagandist playing the role of a Kurd and
publicy supporting the terror organisation PKK, as terror serves their plans...
He even says that he too is a terrorist. There are more such postings
from this guy in the archive.
In newsgroups these low-lifes take the roles of Kurds, Greeks, Frenchmen,
and others to "increase" the effect of their Anti-Turkish lie propaganda on the net.
Ie. by impersonating others, as wolves in sheeps' clothing... :
He has posted the following message (and other similar ones).
The subject reads "KURDS RENEW MASSACRES OF ARMENIANS"
Now, ask yourself whether a Kurd ever would post such a message? :-)
Then ask yourself who else would post such a message...
Right, "Ali Asker" IS AN ARMENIAN!
(BTW, don't believe the message below, as MOST of these propaganda
messages are simply FABRICATED by the Armenian propaganda machinery,
to whom also "Ali Asker" belongs!!!)
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!Path: ...!newspeer1-win.ntli.net!newsfe5-gui.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
!From: "Ali Asker" <pasa_...@kurdistan.kd>
!Newsgroups:
alt.culture.armenian,alt.politics.europe.misc,alt.politics.usa.congress,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.french,so
c.culture.greek,soc.culture.kurdish,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.usa
!Subject: KURDS RENEW MASSACRES OF ARMENIANS
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!
! KURDS RENEW MASSACRES
! NEW YORK TIMES
!
! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
! Attacks on Christians in Armenia Become Violent
! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
!
! MAY 1, 1915
!
! JULFA, Transcaucasia, April 29, (via Petrograd and London, April 30.)-- A
!renewal of the recent massacres of Christians Armenia is in the progress in
!the whole district of Lake Van.
!
!Conflict between the Armenians and the Kurds are daily becoming more
!obdurate. An exceptionally fierce engagement occurred today at Shatasch.
...
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Regarding Hürriyet: this dirt newspaper is CONTROLLED by Armenins, maybe even owned!
########################################################
PROOF: RACISTIC POSTINGS via TERANEWS.COM
And here's the truth about this P.O.S. Panta Rhei, the obscene racistic Usenet troll
who posts via TERANEWS.COM (aka NNTPSERVER.COM):
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And here for everybody the facts about the famous Greek Usenet troll "Panta Rhei" :
Facts:
1) "Panta Rhei" is an obscene and racistic Greco-Armenian Usenet troll.
2) "Panta Rhei" repeats the same obscene bullshit of racistic hate over and over.
3) "Panta Rhei" is obscene, vulgar, dumb and childish; a troll.
4) "Panta Rhei" has no brain for any constructive discussions.
5) "Panta Rhei" misuses and abuses the Usenet for his racistic hate propaganda.
Proof below:
Snippets of messages of this Greco-Armenian low-life Panta Rhei,
who endlessly posts Anti-Turkish hate propaganda on the net,
which shows how "educated", how "european", how racistic,
and how dumb he is:
****************************************************************************
* *
* THE PERSONALITY OF "PANTA RHEI", THE OBSCENE GRECO-ARMENIAN USENET TROLL *
* Vol. 1 *
* Compiled by "Baba", 10/23/2006 *
* *
* FYI: Panta Rhei is a brainless racist and serial Turk hater financed by SouthCyprus! *
* He posts his obscene and RACISTIC CRAP via TERANEWS.COM *
* The following snippets are from his recent Usenet postings. *
* You can find them also in the Usenet archives at *
* http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.turkish/search?group=soc.culture.turkish&q=Panta+Rhei
****************************************************************************
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Aww, the little idiot has to suck again on his pacifiers, some
dumb-ass links, to make himself feel just a BIT better in his
miserable "life"! LMAO!
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As they say: a picture is worth more than a thousand words, asshole
Sean Ruttledge! So remember, instead of sick hallucinations, as in your
case, we got many pictures of you and your weird-looking asshole family!
The link will be posted probably soon again on Usenet! LMAO!
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Yeah, asshole Sean Ruttledge, tell him what you know! You are the
expert in pounds! You haven't got any, but you get constantly pounded
here by everyone! LMAO!
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You do come across as a defeated and deranged sicko who has lost
his mind completely after being bitchslapped senseless by most
people on Usenet over the last seven years!
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Aww, poor, bitchslapped Sean Ruttledge has to adopt the name of his MASTER
Panta Rhei again who beats the shit out of him EVERY DAY.
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BTW, asshole Sean Ruttledge: you CAN'T win that game!
You are tooo dumb! LMAO!
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Living the life of a ridiculed, bitchslapped loony on usenet helps Beanie
Tinfoil forget the failures in his life.
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No Asian monkey language in European newsgroups, please! Thank you, monkey!
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Then learn some English first, before you post to English speaking forums,
you backward, primitive Turkish pig! You are so abysmally stupid, some of
your compatriots in your stinking Turkish newsgroup start out looking
almost "intelligent", suddenly! LMAO!
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You assume he doesn't know it, you primitive dimwit? LMAO!
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Just so that everyone knows: the creep above is simply a Turk!
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Where is your voice against the injustices in your OWN country,
you Turkish Nazi pig?
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Thank you for exposing Turkish retardation so competently on Usenet,
abysmally stupid Blahblah! LOL
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Never mind, that problem of discerning is quite natural for an asshole like
you, asshole Sean Ruttledge, who managed to get a special place on Usenet
because of his constantly abused anus!
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The only thing you can do, lobotomized Blahblah, is make an ass of yourself
constantly on Usenet!
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But you ARE a Turk, and we do call you Blablah!
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Yeah, well said, stupid cow! <pat> <pat>
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You must be either a cow or a Turk! Hard to tell! LMAO!
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Folks, check the blooming psychosis of asshole Sean Ruttledge:
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Talking about yourself again, eh, you miserable sicko! LMAO!
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seems we have to declare this lobotomized creep Blablah as the new
official village idiot in these groups! LMAO!
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Let's just wait and see how this nation of idiots will look in maybe
10 or 20 years, forever outside of the EU, with a flourishing, oil-rich
Kurdistan as a new neigbour, with Western folks completely fed up with
retrograde, hoodlum, fascist Turkey! <G>
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*LOL*! Thank you for exposing your Turkish retardation so willfully in:
soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.british and soc.culture.usa!
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This is not fascist Turkey here where you can try to shut up people, you
primitive Turkish Nazi pig! You Turkish lowlives are still in need of
eductation from the West! <BG>
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Tell us more about all the things you "know", you sick, depraved, delirious
clown! Will contribute to everyone's entertainment here! LOL
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Yeah, slimy choro-sick, "refrain" from opening your stupid gab in the
future. It's the best thing for you to do, if you don't want to continue to
make a complete ass of yourself! <G>
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choro-sick, the Turkish perverted swine, is an insult to HUMANITY!!! If you
are unable to see that, it shows you can only be another Turk with a
similarly depraved mind-set like him.
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Still struggling with your inability to say something intelligent,
psychopath?
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As you are clearly lobotomized, you will never be able to understand the
difference!
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Try to get a brain!
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Oooh.... the dumb Turk gives an example of his "Turkish wit" again! Off
with you to alt.hopelessbores!
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Yeah, I find that too, Blablah! I'm for anything that makes Turkey appear
as the world's laughing stock! LOL
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Who cares what a depraved piece of shit like you really thinks! It's
obvious for most educated people what you are! Your lengthy statements
about yourself and what you "think" only confirm that you are just a
blathering piece of Turkish shit!
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What you can't see, as you are a lobotomized stupid cunt, is that people
SEE what depraved, backward Turks are hanging out in these groups. It's all
about the victory of Western values over fascist retards of your sort!
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PROJECTION again, asshole Sean Ruttledge!!!! ;-) It's obvious, YOU need a
lot of professional help!!!! We also know, you can't afford it!!!!!
Buahahahaaaaaaa....!
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<BG> Yeah, just say what you mean, dumb cow!!! LMAO!
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Is that storm getting there perhaps from your stinking place, you
hilarious, pathetic dumb troll? Was that what you were implying, you
pathetic, abused keyboard rambo? LMAO!
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Seems, you found finally someone to actually "talk" to, asshole Sean
Ruttledge! But look: it's just another asshole, it's Blahblah!! LMAO!
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All the more fun for me to keep mistreating you, asshole Sean Ruttledge,
till I manage, AGAIN, to make you peep out from behind your killfile for a
short time, full of anguish and blind, impotent rage and with your
predictable psychotic fits! HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA.....!!!! You are and will
always simply be: my PUNCHING BAG! LOL!!!
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<BG> You don't mind making a complete ass of yourself, eh, dumb Blahblah!
LMAO! Seems to be your special Turkish "talent"! Hahahaaaaa....
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I admit, I misuse backward, dumb, primitive and fascist idiots of your sort
just for my personal entertainment on Usenet! There is not much you can do
about it, except stop posting with your sort of primitive mind on Usenet!
LMAO!
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And you, did you CHOOSE to be born an asshole, aashole Sean Ruttledge? I
bet you did! Buahahahaaaaaa..... but you are free to correct me, if you
didn't! LMAO!
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Listen, stupid! We can't here explain everything to a subnormal idiot like
you, every time you don't understand something with your limited Turkish
mind, you backward creep! <G>
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Buahahaaaa.... those dumb Turks with computers sure know how to become the
laughing stock quickly in every group on Usenet with their abysmal
stupidity! LOL! Keep proving what "mental" talents you Turks got, dumb
Blahblah! LMAO!
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King Seanie, MASTER of all grik slaves, a full-blown psychopath, as you can see
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<BG> You mean, being polite to a primitive, backward, fascist yokel, such
as you are? Never heard about that! LMAO!
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<BG> Keep guessing, little idiot!
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<BG> Tell us something about the "massive strap-on" that you prefer for
your huge asshole, asshole Sean Ruttledge!! LMAO!
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Still fighting with your inability to say something intelligent, asshole
Sean Ruttledge? LMAO!
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When's your next appointment with your psychiatrist, asshole Sean
Ruttledge? You can't even afford one? Figures! LMAO!
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Yeah, right on, little Turkish nazi pig! Keep crossposting your Turkish
mind to soc.culture.europe! We really ALL want to see rotten Turkey's
cheeky EU bid spoiled! Hahahahaaaaaa.....!
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What's there you don't understand, asshole Sean Ruttledge? "We all", means
we, the civilized folks, in contrast to you, the backward, primitive,
fascist Nazi types (or simply Turks)! <G>
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I doubt that a demented Turkish nazi swine like you is able to see that.
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Are you wearing make up when your fat, ugly Turkish wife does you with her
"massive strap-on", asshole Sean Ruttledge? LOL
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Of course you don't, you lobotomized idiot! Hahahaaaaaaa....
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LOL! You think the Dutch aren't smart enough to have realized by now that
you are nothing but a sick asshole, asshole Sean Ruttledge? You really
think so? LMAO! Priceless!!!
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LMAO! More and more I get the impression you get some sick kick out of
presenting yourself, in as many newsgroups as possible, as the officially
acknowledged asshole of Usenet, asshole Sean Ruttledge, you masochistic,
dumb bitch! Buahahahaaaaaaaa...
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You consider yourself to be the concept of free speech, you abused, dumb,
little Turkish nazi pig? LMAO!
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LOL The poor dolt is probably even proud of being the stupid animal that he is!
Hahahahaaaaaa....!
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Aww! Dumb Blahblah, the retarded, fascist Turk is unable to understand! LOL
Poor, dumb, primitive, fascist Turks can't understand what civilization
really means! LOL
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And yes! alt.asshole.sean-ruttledge, your newsgroup under your REAL name
EXISTS! LOL But please keep denying, twisting and hoping it's not there!
Will add to our entertainment, you struggling little idiot! LMAO!
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Yeah, complain, you sad psycho, your full name on Usenet being: asshole
Sean Ruttledge with his own asshole group under his REAL name! LMAO!
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How's life outside Usenet? You got no idea what I'm talking about, you dumb
asshole? LMAO!
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Think about it! But take a painkiller first, asshole Sean Ruttledge! <BG>
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Hahahaaaaaaa..... asshole Sean Ruttledge turned completely paranoic lately!
No surprise what with all the bitchslapping he's receiving every day from
all sides! LOL
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BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA..... this is priceless: this abused, dumb troll is
still completely UNABLE to accept the existence of his own asshole group
under his REAL name! Well, it IS a shame, too, isn't it, bleeding Sean
Ruttledge! Hahahaaa...
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But, everyone on Usenet can see that you are a swine, choro-sick! And you
prove it with every second post of yours, too! <VBG>
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Buahahahaaaaaaaa...... yes, you REALLY are an asshole, Sean Ruttledge!
And.... you are not ashamed of it, too, it seems! Muahahaaaaaaa....
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Yes, the RICH EU! So why would the Third World Turks want to join the EU?
<BG> Just to keep cleaning the Europeans' toilets, perhaps? LMAO! BTW, one
major reason for not letting rotten Turkey in the EU, is its immense
POVERTY! Sorry, you creeps are just too poor to be allowed to join! What a
cruel world! LOL!
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(to be continued :-)
*************** ADDITIONS 1 *******************:
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Sorry, stupid cow, I never click on any links some official asshole of
Usenet provides. But looks like the link might reflect some of your
"intelligence", moo cow! Buahahahaaaaaaa....
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<BG> Anytime, stupid cow! <pat> <pat>
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Yeah, seems someone KNOWS how to deal with those three retarded Turkish
trolls on Usenet: Sean Ruttledge, the subnormal psychopath, who managed to
get his own asshole group dedicated to him under his REAL name, Blahblah,
the lobotomized Turk and primitive hoodlum, and slimy choro-sick, the
notorious perverted, abnormal Turkish swine! LOL
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Tell us more about all the things you "know", you sick, depraved, delirious
clown! Will contribute to everyone's entertainment here! LOL
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<BG> You a Turk, right? Buahahaaaaaaaa..... Dumb Turks with computers!
Hahahaaaaa....
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<BG> Come on, do your moo trick again, Turkish retard! It's the only time
when you manage to sound a bit "intelligent"! LMAO!
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<BG> Folks, check, above, two Turks engaging in a conversation a la Turca!
LMAO! No wonder these creeps are despised by most people that got to know
them!
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Goes to show that an idiot like you shouldn't start wondering in the first
place! If one sees YOUR posts one KNOWS that stupidity has no limits,
Blahblah, dumb Turk!
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<BG> The dumb Re'vr''nerd feels the need to expose his widely known
retardation again!
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<BG> Trying hard to come across as the retard that you are, dumb
Re'vr''nerd?
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<BG> Seems, you still aren't quite convinced that you are already widely
known as a retard on Usenet, dumb Rev'nerd! Just keep up your effort of
convincing everyone of your retardation! We will be watching your efforts
in that regard! LMAO!
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<BG> Keep up your effort, dumb Re'vr'nerd! LMAO!
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Oh, you do NOT consider yourself to be a psychopath, asshole Sean
Ruttledge? LMAO! So you are getting wrongly abused all the time?
Buahahaaaaaaa....!!
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Yeah, of course, no other two idiots known all over the place like the two
of you and obviously vying for the number one position as Usenet's village
idiot! LMAO!
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Still trying hard to spread the old "news" about you retardation, dumb
Rev'r'nerd? Sure is funny as hell to see you putting in so much effort!
LMAO!
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(to be continued of course :-)
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gogu
>
> gogu wrote:
>> ? "Mike" <mas_i...@yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ??????
>> news:1165499845....@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Is "Cibel" a Trukish name?
>> No.
>> It's a borrow from the antiquity (=history of other people: Greeks,
>> Assyrian, Phrygian, Lydian, Persian, Roman, etc) as almost everything in
>> Turkish history.
>> It's the Turkish form of the name of the ancient Goddess Cybele.
> this is not true, Turks didn't use pagan idol names. Sibel is not
> borrowed from Cybele. It is another Turkish name and has no relation to
> Cybele.
Please feel free to substantiate/prove your allegations!
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> The only similarity is they sound the same in Turkish. But then
Baba Bey
> gogu wrote:
> > "Mike"
> > >
> > > Is "Cibel" a Trukish name?
> >
>
> this is not true, Turks didn't use pagan idol names. Sibel is not
> borrowed from Cybele. It is another Turkish name and has no relation to
> Cybele.
You are talking BULLSHIT, religious idiot!
Of course you don't like any Non-Arabic names because you are a fanatic Moslem...
The name Sibel does not come from Islam, basta!
As said it is the Turkish form of the name of the ancient Goddess Cybele.
See here:
http://sozluk.sourtimes.org/
- anadolu nun ana tanrıçasının ismi.
- sibel, subel, kibel, cybele, kybele, kubela, kabbala,...
gibi cok degisik formlara girip cikan cok cok eski ,(kadim derler ya, na o kadar eski),
karmasik kokenli kelime/ad. (annemin de adidir)
gogu
> "Grand Sen~or" wrote
>> gogu wrote:
>> > "Mike"
>> > >
>> > > Is "Cibel" a Trukish name?
>> >
>> > It's the Turkish form of the name of the ancient Goddess Cybele.
>> this is not true, Turks didn't use pagan idol names. Sibel is not
>> borrowed from Cybele. It is another Turkish name and has no relation to
>> Cybele.
> You are talking BULLSHIT, religious idiot!
> Of course you don't like any Non-Arabic names because you are a fanatic
> Moslem...
> The name Sibel does not come from Islam, basta!
> As said it is the Turkish form of the name of the ancient Goddess Cybele.
Hehehe:-)
One time I agree with this idiot;-)
I'll celebrate it in the next 4 days when I'll be...,well, somewhere
beautiful out of town;-)
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in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
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> See here:
Grand Sen~or
Baba Bey wrote:
> "Grand Sen~or" wrote
> > gogu wrote:
> > > "Mike"
> > > >
> > > > Is "Cibel" a Trukish name?
> > >
> > > It's the Turkish form of the name of the ancient Goddess Cybele.
> >
> > this is not true, Turks didn't use pagan idol names. Sibel is not
> > borrowed from Cybele. It is another Turkish name and has no relation to
> > Cybele.
> http://sozluk.sourtimes.org/
> - anadolu nun ana tanrýçasýnýn ismi.
> - sibel, subel, kibel, cybele, kybele, kubela, kabbala,...
> gibi cok degisik formlara girip cikan cok cok eski ,(kadim derler ya, na o kadar eski),
> karmasik kokenli kelime/ad. (annemin de adidir)
bu siz sekularistlerin sozlugune gore oyle olabilir...
ama gercek su ki "Sibel"le "Cybele" arasinda daglar kadar fark var, ben
zaten seizin gibi doenmehlerin bu "Sibel" Turk ismini "Cybele" niyetine
kullanmadiginizi soylemedim, degil mi?
haydi kumda oyna!
hehhheee baskasini ermeni/rum dolu diye damgalayandan dinle anadolu
tanrica masallari;->>
seni gidinin doenmeh'si seni;->>
Panta Rhei
Just look it up on the Internet for yourself to find out the truth! You
will ALWAYS get lies from fanatic, brainwashed Turks that believe that
Turkish was the first language ever spoken and consequently the entire
humanity originated from the Turks! (Kemalist "Sun Theory")
Ali is right, the name is considered to be of Greek (Phrygian) origin and
was widely spread in Classical Antiquity (it's not a "classical Turkish
name", as the notorious liar Blahblah would claim) and of course it is
related to Sibyl (Sibylline Oracles). While it seems to be in use not only
in Turkey but also several other countries (Italian: Sibilla, French:
Sibylla, English: Sybil, German: Sybille) it is NOT of Turkish origin, as
ancient Anatolia had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Turks!! <G> Check
for yourself!
BTW, just so you get a clue of what is going on here: the ancient poet
"Homer" was NOT a Turk by the name of "Omar" as some Turks would claim,
and also Santa Claus was NOT a Turk as some Turkish politician (or was it
even a historian) recently claimed! (There were posts about those
hilarious Turkish ideas on the Usenet, some time ago) <BG> When you decide
to talk to primitive, brainwashed fascists you should know what to expect!
Cheers!
So, if you insist on the peculiar spelling "Sibel", you might say, it is a
"Turkish name", sort of! LOL
Baba Bey
> You are talking BULLSHIT, religious idiot!
> Of course you don't like any Non-Arabic names because you are a fanatic Moslem...
> The name Sibel does not come from Islam, basta!
> See here:
> http://sozluk.sourtimes.org/
> - anadolu nun ana tanrıçasının ismi.
> - sibel, subel, kibel, cybele, kybele, kubela, kabbala,...
> gibi cok degisik formlara girip cikan cok cok eski ,(kadim derler ya, na o kadar eski),
> karmasik kokenli kelime/ad. (annemin de adidir)
"Grand Sen~or" replied:
>
> bu siz sekularistlerin sozlugune gore oyle olabilir...
> ama gercek su ki "Sibel"le "Cybele" arasinda daglar kadar fark var,
Hadi ispatla bakalim. Kaynak ver!
Yoksa yine yalan mi söyledin?...
> ben zaten seizin gibi doenmehlerin bu "Sibel" Turk ismini "Cybele" niyetine
> kullanmadiginizi soylemedim, degil mi?
Dönme kendinsin! Türklükten cikmis Arap bokusun!
> hehhheee baskasini ermeni/rum dolu diye damgalayandan dinle anadolu
> tanrica masallari;->>
> seni gidinin doenmeh'si seni;->>
Senin gidinin Arap numarasi yapan Ermeni bozuntusu!
Panta Rhei
<snip this unique retard's usual garbage>
*ROTFLOL* !!!!!!
Just repeating your lies does not make them a proof! And obviously you
don't know what a "proof" is, you illiterate Turkish hoodlum! We have gone
already through some of your lies before and you couldn't "prove" them!
You primitive pig lie the very moment you accuse others of being liars, and
you lie the very moment you post your FALSE proofs!!
Remember, you Turkish Nazi pig: you are a PROVEN, SERIAL LIAR!!
sar3
news:1165509412....@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> If I to write that name in English, what do you think the right
> spelling should be (so it can be pronounced correctly in English!)
>
Cybele (from the Greek Kyveli = Cybeli), troll.
Panta Rhei
> ? "Grand Sen~or" <Grand...@yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ??????
> news:1165511537.3...@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Ali Asker wrote:
>>> It is a Greek name but I am not really sure if the Greeks still uses
>>> it.
>
>> "Cibel" is not a Turkish name.
>> There is a big difference between Cibel or Cybele and Sibel.
>
> Which is.....?
LOL! Good one, gogu!
The big difference is obviously the huge gap between the minds of primitive
Turks and those of civilized people!
sar3
news:1165511537.3...@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com:
> Yes, Sibel is a Turkish name.
Care to tell us its origin?
TIA
Grand Sen~or
maybe people pick it up from TV shows, like they did Ceyar (from JR)
;->>
I don't know when and by whom it is started to be used. People don't
need an "origin" to make up names sometimes. And most of the people
uses names without care about its origin anyway. They may just like the
sound of it.
But somebody else gave what "sibel"t means in Turkish on this tread.
>
> TIA
Grand Sen~or
here it is, not the origin of it but what sibel means in Turkish:
(I've copied it from another message on this tread)
"ear of wheat
a raindrop"
>
> TIA
gogu
news:4578520a$0$3005$8826...@alt.teranews.com...
> gogu writes:
>
>> ? "Grand Sen~or" <Grand...@yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ??????
>> news:1165511537.3...@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> Ali Asker wrote:
>>>> It is a Greek name but I am not really sure if the Greeks still uses
>>>> it.
>>
>>> "Cibel" is not a Turkish name.
>>> There is a big difference between Cibel or Cybele and Sibel.
>> Which is.....?
> LOL! Good one, gogu!
Obviously he can't answer this;-)
Or backup his ignorant statement with a relevant source...
Typical...
> The big difference is obviously the huge gap between the minds of
> primitive
> Turks and those of civilized people!
I wouldn't expect anything reasonable from a religious fanatic like Grand
Baloney (and all other religious fanatics, be they Turks or Greeks)...
Panta Rhei
> ? "LASTROSE" <song...@gmail.com> ?????? ??? ??????
> news:1165504731.0...@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Mike yazdi:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Is "Cibel" a Trukish name? What does it mean? What is the right
>>> spelling?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>
>> Yes this is a Turkhis name, but it's writting "s" - SIBEL
>> there is different means.
>> a goddes in ancient Turks
>> ear of wheat
>> a raindrop
>
> Is there any relation between this Turkish form of the name and the Arabic
> in the (Egyptian) Abu Sibel temple?...
> Was that maybe a temple dedicated to the Goddess Cybele?...
gogu, the name of the temple is "Abu Simbel", actually. There could still
be a relation, though I doubt it. Probably purely Arabic. For sure not
something I'd ever ask a Turk about! LOL!
gogu
You are right but look at here that the "Sibel" form is also used by some
people!
http://www.nowitz.com/image-pages-updated/CD2386/CD2386-0272.html
http://www.eurotrip.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=102752&ARCHIVE=
http://www.uri.edu/library/staff_pages/teliha/telihaj/travel/egypt.htm
http://travel.webshots.com/album/311711300hOUJGW
Of course all private (not scholars I mean) and wrong.
Thanks for pointing it out!
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> Probably purely Arabic. For sure not
sar3
> There is a big difference between Cibel or Cybele and Sibel.
> Yes, Sibel is a Turkish name.
> maybe people pick it up from TV shows
> I don't know when and by whom it is started to be used.
You're a joker Grand Sen~or (sic), sorry!
King Seanie, MASTER of all grik slaves
gogu wrote:
> ? "Mike" <mas_i...@yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ??????
> news:1165509412....@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > If I to write that name in English, what do you think the right
> > spelling should be (so it can be pronounced correctly in English!)
>
>
> Cybele or Sibel I *think* (=not sure) it should read correctly in English.
> But there are specialized ngs in Usenet where you can ask your question and
> have a certain answer.
>
> rgrds
>
> --
>
> E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
> in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
> puttane! F.d.A
>
> Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
> http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
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> gogu wrote:Asshole Sean Ruttledge is no more able to hide his BLOOMING
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>
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And you may tell yourself
My god!...what have I done?
Acephale Lemar
> If I to write that name in English, what do you think the right
> spelling should be (so it can be pronounced correctly in English!)
Cibel is okay, but "i" must be pronounced like in "give", not in
"five"!
Sibel is a female forename in Turkey.
Grand Sen~or
Baba Bey wrote:
> Baba Bey wrote:
> > bu siz sekularistlerin sozlugune gore oyle olabilir...
> > ama gercek su ki "Sibel"le "Cybele" arasinda daglar kadar fark var,
>
> Hadi ispatla bakalim. Kaynak ver!
> Yoksa yine yalan mi söyledin?...
bak istersen LASTROSE'a sor galiba o cavabini biliyor..
>
LASTROSE wrote:
> Mike yazdi:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Is "Cibel" a Trukish name? What does it mean? What is the right
> > spelling?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
>
>
> Yes this is a Turkhis name, but it's writting "s" - SIBEL
> there is different means.
> a goddes in ancient Turks
bu kismini Cybele ile karistirmis, ama sunlarin dogru olup olmadigini
arastirmakta yarar var:
> ear of wheat
> a raindrop
ama butun bunlara ragmen siz doenmehlerin Sibel'i Cybele niyetine
kullanmanizda bir sakinca gormuyorum, zaten o kadar cok hurafeye
dalmissiniz ki bir fazla bir eksik ne fark eder;->>
Baba Bey
>
> ama butun bunlara ragmen siz doenmehlerin Sibel'i Cybele niyetine
> kullanmanizda bir sakinca gormuyorum, zaten o kadar cok hurafeye
> dalmissiniz ki bir fazla bir eksik ne fark eder;->>
Ama bütün bunlara ragmen siz Arapboklarının "Sibel" ismini Muselman
niyetine kullanmanızda pek bir sakınca görmüyorum, zaten o kadar
Arapbokuna takılmışsınız ki bir fazla bir eksik ne fark eder? :-)))))))))
Sizin tarihiniz 1400 seneden geriye varmaz zaten,
bundan dolayı "Sibel"'in bir Anadolu tanrıçasının adından
geldigine inanmak istemezsiniz; Arapmantık işte...
Tanrı korusun Türkü sizin gibi gerizekalı Arapboklarından!
Grand Sen~or
Baba Bey wrote:
> Arapboku Dönme "Grand Sen~or" yine şunları kustu:
> >
> > ama butun bunlara ragmen siz doenmehlerin Sibel'i Cybele niyetine
> > kullanmanizda bir sakinca gormuyorum, zaten o kadar cok hurafeye
> > dalmissiniz ki bir fazla bir eksik ne fark eder;->>
>
> Sizin tarihiniz 1400 seneden geriye varmaz zaten,
inanalarin tarihi insanligin tarihiyle baslar, siz doenmehleri tarihi
de oyle.
yani siz yeni bir fenomen degilsiniz, sizden once de coook doenmehler
gelip gecti...
> bundan dolayı "Sibel"'in bir Anadolu tanrıçasının adından
Cybele diyecektin de klavyen karmas dolas oldugundan Sible yazdin;->>
Greek Κυβέλη Neolitiklerin tapindigi bir put, doenmehlerden
baska kim adini bir put adindan secsin ki?
Sibel Turkce bir addir sizin putlarinizla uzaktan yakindan alakasi
yoktur!
Ama szi doenmehler koksuz oldugunuzdan baskalarina kok salmak
istersiniz onun icin de bunun Turk adi olmadigini Neolitik Anadolu
putperestlerinin tapindigi puttan firlama bir ad oldugunu ovuncle
savunursunuz. Tabii ki siz doenmehlerin "Sibel" kelimesine kendi
hurafenize gore dilediginiz hurafeyi yuklemek sizin hakkinizdir, ama
bunu baskalarina zorla dayatma hakkini size kim verdi? Turkler
Anaduluya putlarinizi, hurafelerinizi darmadagin etmek icin girmedi mi?
Girdiiiiiiiii!
hehhesimdilerde o paramparca olmus hurafelerinizi ekleyip kenetlemeye
calisiyor zulum saltanatiniz sekularo-fascist guzenbasliginiza hurafe
uretmeye yelteniyorsunuz, cunku uydurdugunuz dini bu hurafe ile
allayip, pullayip sekularit olmayanlara dayatmaya devam etmek
istiyorsunuz!
Ha gayret!
Grand Sen~or
Mhitsos**48
> There is a way out of this madness - to abolish single law
> secularo-fascist model of mis-administrations and introduce a
> multi-law, multi-cultural natural administration models so that people
> live together in harmony and peace without feeling threathened to lose
> their identity as a seperate SPEE.
People need to have an identity.
Based on truth and not on lies.
Turkey has people from various ethnic origins.
To deny this is to deny the culture and identity of this great
variations of cultures and people Turkey has.
" ..they have harmonized more than 30 different SPEEs like
Turks, Kurds, Armenians, Albanians, Romans(Rum) etec. "
Assyrians, Arabs, Lebanese, Greeks etc.
I wonder how many different groups of people with their own culture and
identity had to give their identity and become Turk
>
>>Cibel = Cybele
vatandas
Ulen gavurun teki bir laf atiyo, şu böylemi, bu şöyle mi diye.
Onsan sonra Türkler basliyorlar kendi aralarinda kavgaya.
Bu mu sizin egitim, terbiye, din, ahlak , toplumsal bireysel gelisim
ugrasilarindan sonra geldiginiz nokta?
Tuh!
Grand Sen~or
esas sana YUFFF olsun ki gercek olmayani sekularo-fascist eyiliminle
gercekmis gibi gostermeye (salvare apparentias) calisiyorsun, ve de bu
doenmehligi Turklukle karistiriyorsun.
Sen doenmehsin doenmeh Turkler seni dinleyecek degil, bosuna ceneni
yorma!
Ne doenmeh oldugun ortaya cikti simdi de Turklere saldirmaya
yelteniyorsun!
Dikkat et Turkler seni layik oldugun yere oturtmasini cok iyi bilir -
hem hakkin da yenmez.
Grand Sen~or
vatandas
Hem Turkce bilmiyorsun, hem de psikolgu falan olmayan ulusumuzu
tanimiyorsun.
Iki dakikada ajitasyona gelen acemi ajanlar gibisiniz. Yarim akilli
birisi bile bu kadar desifre etmezdi kendini.
Hadi yuru simdi Allaan pezevengi.
Niye pezevenk lakabini aldigini da benden iyi biliyorsun ama pis pis
siritiyorsun hala. Rezil itne.
vatandas
Kimin musluman olduguna da kisinin kendisi karar verir.
Baskasi yirtik dondan cikar gibi cikip, hayirrr sen musluman degilsin,
sen donmeahsin falan gibi abuk sabuk aptal saptal gerizekali laflar edemez.
Git, git.
Dinini de git bilen birinden ogren, oyle Ingilizce cevirilerle olmaz bu
isler.
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Mhitsos**48 wrote:
> Grand Sen~or wrote:
>
>
> > There is a way out of this madness - to abolish single law
> > secularo-fascist model of mis-administrations and introduce a
> > multi-law, multi-cultural natural administration models so that people
> > live together in harmony and peace without feeling threathened to lose
> > their identity as a seperate SPEE.
>
> People need to have an identity.
> Based on truth and not on lies.
> Turkey has people from various ethnic origins.
> To deny this is to deny the culture and identity of this great
> variations of cultures and people Turkey has.
> " ..they have harmonized more than 30 different SPEEs like
> Turks, Kurds, Armenians, Albanians, Romans(Rum) etec. "
> Assyrians, Arabs, Lebanese, Greeks etc.
> I wonder how many different groups of people with their own culture and
> identity had to give their identity and become Turk
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http://media.putfile.com/Demetre-Xenos
http://media.putfile.com/Dimitrios-Xenos
http://media.putfile.com/Xenos-The-Wifebeater
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http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3784162
Models himself on Adolph Schicklegruberides The great Grik dick tater
Hear the moooooooing here
http://media.putfile.com/moo33
Hey Mr Dimitrios Xenos aka Mitsos of Turku Finland
You should also thank the Finnish Socialist govt of the 1980s for
allowing Somali and Gambian muslims to immigrate to Turku and fuck
all
the greek immigrants Finnish wives !
Look how much better the black immigrants did than the lazy griks
The Black immigrants wear smart suits, have 3 low maintainance,
married, white mistresses, a fashion business, and a PhD !
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3790215
The greek Immigrant lives alone in a tiny flat, gets no sex, has no
job, never sees his kids, waits 4 years for his tiny state pension,
suffers from paranoia and depression and looks like a terrorist who's
been on the run for 20 years
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3789580
Have you seen the look on MooMoo's face ?
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3784162
Models himself on Adolph Schicklegruberides The great Grik dick tater
Hear the moooooooing here
http://media.putfile.com/Xenos-Dimitrios-Sipiking-Pidjin-about-hes-fractals-innit
And here *LOL* for the Sci-Fi fanatics........
http://media.putfile.com/MooMoo-Mitsos-Dimitrios-Xenos-sipiking
Picture of cuckolded Mitsos "Dimitrios Xenos" slut wife Marjo lying in
bed playing with her pussy
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3789578
This is the BIG BUCK NIGERian who was fucking her for YEARS behind her
husbands back
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3790215
Dr Degni Filio has a PHd and Demetre Xenos is "SCARED" of him and his
silly threats *LOL*
Here is what Xenos looked like BEFORE September 12th 2001 when he
discovered he was a cuckold
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3783959
Happy as a greek pig in shit !
And this is how a cuckolded man looks five years later on
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3784162
SAD SAD SAD OLD MAN !
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Grand Sen~or
Mhitsos**48 wrote:
> Grand Sen~or wrote:
>
>
> > There is a way out of this madness - to abolish single law
> > secularo-fascist model of mis-administrations and introduce a
> > multi-law, multi-cultural natural administration models so that people
> > live together in harmony and peace without feeling threathened to lose
> > their identity as a seperate SPEE.
>
> People need to have an identity.
> Based on truth and not on lies.
> Turkey has people from various ethnic origins.
> To deny this is to deny the culture and identity of this great
> variations of cultures and people Turkey has.
it is not only Turkey, EU, USA, Greece have all the same problem. The
source of this problem is their single law, single culture
socio-political pseudo system called secularo-fascism.
Secularo-fascists do not leave any room to othere SPEEs to make their
own laws and implement it to their own members. All they do is
sekularo-fascists must make the laws and they impose it to all others -
all other SPEEs. This tyranny must be dissolved.