Thai whisky
TMc7062001
Which is generally regarded as being the stronger - Mekhong or Saeng Thip ?
My wife says that Saeng Thip is more a "lady's drink", but to my taste seems
somehow rougher than Mekhong. Does anyone know the relative strength
difference ?
Also, what the hell is Si Sip Degree made from ? It tastes like paint
thinners !
However, the Thai/Khmer people I met in the North East say that it's
smoother than the Johnny Walker whisky and Smirnoff vodka I normally take
for my own pleasure when I visit.
Tommy McGhee
Moose
hurt the next morning if used in excess!
JT
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TMc7062001 wrote in message
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Anders Nilsson
products, since the hangover generated primarily depends on the quality of
the liqour. Neither of Mekhong or Sang Thip is very pure, but for some
serious drinking, most people I've met, Westerners and Thai alike, agree
that Sang Thip is the less painful choice. It is probably even coal
filtered....
One thing worth noting for the interested is that Sang Thip is a rum, not a
whisky. In fact, Sang Thip is the only true rum produced in Thailand, as it
is made from distilled and fermented cane juice. Mekhong and the other
"whiskies" are made from rice. If You want a better alternative for only a
handful of baht more, then I'd suggest You buty the almost drinkable V.O.
Royal Thai Liqour, which is normally sold in a gold colored paper cylinder
featuring a picture of a cat. The relatively new brand "Hunter", sold with a
blue label is probably the best choice in low cost whiskies in Thailand.
Anders Nilsson
anders....@goteborg.mail.telia.com
pompattaya
same degree.
Si Sip degree made from rice.
Pom Pattaya
rinpoche
> One thing worth noting for the interested is that Sang Thip is a rum,
> not a
> whisky. In fact, Sang Thip is the only true rum produced in Thailand,
> as it
> is made from distilled and fermented cane juice. Mekhong and the other
>
> "whiskies" are made from rice.
I thought Mekhong is also a rum and made from sugar cane too.
Rob Kat
Mekhong is Thai "rum"
Saeng Thip is Thai "whisky/whiskey"
Louis Paquet
wrote:
>On 26 Oct 1998 18:51:47 GMT, tmc70...@aol.com (TMc7062001) wrote:
>
>
>Mekhong is Thai "rum"
>Saeng Thip is Thai "whisky/whiskey"
>
>
On my bottle that i have here it say : Sang Thip Royal Thai Liquor
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tpirkle
> Alcoholic content doesn't really count when it comes to Thai alcoholic
> products, since the hangover generated primarily depends on the quality of
> the liqour.
A number of years ago when I could not go into Viet Nam, I spent some
time traveling the Thai border areas in search of a Vietnamese whisky
called Ditacke, the same 40 proof as Mehkong, but with the added treat
of two large gecko lizards in each bottle. I finally found a bottle near
NKP. It was funny to see the Thai Customs soldiers' expressions when
they found that in my baggage at Don Muang. Has anyone ever tried this?
I didn't have the guts to try it, and it still sits on a shelf in my
living room. I find that Thai women cannot stand to look at the lizards
in the bottle.
Johpa
>in search of a Vietnamese whisky
>called Ditacke, the same 40 proof as Mehkong, but with the added treat
>of two large gecko lizards in each bottle
One use to be able to purchase a variety of "whiskies" with various animals,
notably crawling insects amongst others, in the market up in Mae Salong. They
also had a large selection of Lao Dong medicinal whiskies with various barks
and herbs in the bottle.
Johpa
John Sharman
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They're still there, the pickled snakes and huge centipedes being the
most spectacular offerings.
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Rumpel
tpirkle wrote:
> two large gecko lizards in each bottle.
These are not lizards - that's dbrenn's twinbrothers.
Rumpel
rinpoche
> On 26 Oct 1998 18:51:47 GMT, tmc70...@aol.com (TMc7062001) wrote:
>
> Mekhong is Thai "rum"
> Saeng Thip is Thai "whisky/whiskey"
I'm sure that Mekhong is rum. I read an article in the BKK Post about
this misnomer a few years ago. As for Sang Thip, I'm not sure. I've only
drunk it once and I hardly ever drink any one of them.
Eric
behind it but would be curious to know.
Eric
tpirkle wrote:
> Anders Nilsson wrote:
> > Alcoholic content doesn't really count when it comes to Thai alcoholic
> > products, since the hangover generated primarily depends on the quality of
> > the liqour.
>
> A number of years ago when I could not go into Viet Nam, I spent some
> time traveling the Thai border areas in search of a Vietnamese whisky
> called Ditacke, the same 40 proof as Mehkong, but with the added treat
Eric
what is the difference. Something about Sang Thip being a "true" rum while
Mekhong is made differently (maybe). Mekhong is a lot sweeter though and
sugar helps dehydrate, leading to a worse hangover.
Eric
rinpoche
> I've had similar liquors in China. Can't give an intelligent scoop on
> the story
> behind it but would be curious to know.
>
> Eric
Yes, this idea of putting those creepy crawlers into liquor must be a
Chinese invention. Like tea and other common food and beverages, the
Chinese use alcohol as a form of medication or more precisely, a form of
tonic. In fact, there is a special category of Chinese liquor called "bu
jiu" or tonic liquors. For centuries, Chinese mother-in-laws have been
cooking up wine dishes (usually containing chicken feet) for their
daughter-in-laws who have just given birth. It is supposed to serve as a
nutritional supplement to aid recovery.
Wines containing snakes and other creatures are widely touted as
aphrodisiacs.
Karl Jacob
Eric schrieb in Nachricht <363961EB...@bayou.uh.edu>...
>The difference was explained to me once years ago, can't remember anymore
>what is the difference. Something about Sang Thip being a "true" rum while
>Mekhong is made differently (maybe). Mekhong is a lot sweeter though and
>sugar helps dehydrate, leading to a worse hangover.
Why you think thais prefer black-label and such stuff ?
Thai whiskies and rums are good, no doubt, but there are better ones.
I recommend `VO´, it´s a scotch-style whiskey made in thailand, I think
they buy original old draughts (hope this is the right word) from scottland.
cheap and good.
And I think there are several things like that, also higher quality.
Anybody can recommend these ?
karl
TMc7062001
In article <71dkcq$469$1...@news.online.de>, "Karl Jacob" <karl-...@online.de>
writes:
>Why you think thais prefer black-label and such stuff ?
>Thai whiskies and rums are good, no doubt, but there are better ones.
>I recommend `VO´, it´s a scotch-style whiskey made in thailand, I think
>they buy original old draughts (hope this is the right word) from scottland.
>cheap and good.
Karl,
I could be wrong, but I stay 3 miles from the Johnny Walker plant in Kilmarnock
in Scotland and VO tastes F**k all like whisky. Indeed any Thai people I have
drunk this liquor with refer to it as being "Thai brandy", not Thai whisky.
I don't mean to discredit the drink, I've been drunk on it, but I don't think
it originates in Scotland.
I'm only sorry that you describe Scottish whisky as being "cheap and good". I
hope for the sake of the industry in my country that this opinion is not the
one that is generally held world wide.
To use the "Tchiowa/Sharman" method, (no disrespect guys, I'm on your side), if
anyone has any proof that this stuff originates in Scotland, I'll accept it,
without question. However, I suspect that this may be an attempt at making an
"urban myth" - not from you Karl, from your sources.
Tommy McGhee
Louis Paquet
>
>I could be wrong, but I stay 3 miles from the Johnny Walker plant in Kilmarnock
>in Scotland and VO tastes F**k all like whisky. Indeed any Thai people I have
>drunk this liquor with refer to it as being "Thai brandy", not Thai whisky.
>I don't mean to discredit the drink, I've been drunk on it, but I don't think
>it originates in Scotland.
>I'm only sorry that you describe Scottish whisky as being "cheap and good". I
>hope for the sake of the industry in my country that this opinion is not the
>one that is generally held world wide.
>To use the "Tchiowa/Sharman" method, (no disrespect guys, I'm on your side), if
>anyone has any proof that this stuff originates in Scotland, I'll accept it,
>without question. However, I suspect that this may be an attempt at making an
>"urban myth" - not from you Karl, from your sources.
>
>Tommy McGhee
>
First i think whisky in Scotland are call Scotch, and they are in two
separately family: blended and single malt. For tasting only put a
little water in it and you see a big diiference between the two.
The single malt is far better then the blended who are more perfume
and sweet. The Scottish have bring the making of Scotch single malt
as a art that is unsurpass in the world.
Warning, if you taste single malt, you never able to drink a blended
Scotch anymore. My favorite ones are Lagavulin, Laphroaig
,Glenkinchie and Talisker.
Karl Jacob
My love is black label too, but this is only a fashion from thailand.
But not a bad one.
I would not feel offended about thai´s making a fake from ´münchner
weißwurst` a famous food from my town, I would not care at all.
Maybe I would not try it, but this ´wurst´ is not easy to make, I not
recommend to eat it in another german town.
karl
TMc7062001
In article <71fa9m$ptq$1...@news.online.de>, "Karl Jacob" <karl-...@online.de>
writes:
>Subject: Re: Thai whisky
>From: "Karl Jacob" <karl-...@online.de>
>Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:38:22 +0100
Sorry Karl, I'm new to this and obviously did not get my point over very well.
I'm not in the least offended - I just don't think that VO tastes like Scotch
whisky (although if someone gave me a bottle right now it wouldn't last very
long), and I have my doubts as to the fact that the raw materials originate in
Scotland. You said :
I think
>they buy original old draughts (hope this is the right word) from scottland.
>cheap and good.
Thats all, prosit !
Tommy McG.
John Sharman
tmc70...@aol.com "TMc7062001" writes:
> In article <71fa9m$ptq$1...@news.online.de>, "Karl Jacob" <karl-...@online.de>
> writes:
[..]
> Sorry Karl, I'm new to this and obviously did not get my point over very well.
> I'm not in the least offended - I just don't think that VO tastes like Scotch
> whisky (although if someone gave me a bottle right now it wouldn't last very
> long), and I have my doubts as to the fact that the raw materials originate in
> Scotland. You said :
> I think
> >they buy original old draughts (hope this is the right word) from scottland.
> >cheap and good.
I think the confusion arises from the "draughts"; I guess that Karl may
have meant "casks" (=barrels). Maybe the VO manufacturers age their
product ("Not a drop sold 'til it's 10 days old") in genuine Scotch
Whisky casks.
Strangely, one of my favourite single malt whiskies is aged in casks
originally used for storing port (a rich, heavy fortified wine).
Karl Jacob
TMc7062001 schrieb in Nachricht
<19981031105925...@ngol01.aol.com>...
>>From: "Karl Jacob" <karl-...@online.de>
>>Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:38:22 +0100
>>
>>I didn´t say VO ist a scotch whiskey, I meant it´s a cheap and good fake.
>>My love is black label too, but this is only a fashion from thailand.
>>But not a bad one.
>>I would not feel offended about thai´s making a fake from ´münchner
>>weißwurst` a famous food from my town, I would not care at all.
>>Maybe I would not try it, but this ´wurst´ is not easy to make, I not
>>recommend to eat it in another german town.
>>
>>karl
>
well.
>I'm not in the least offended - I just don't think that VO tastes like
Scotch
>whisky (although if someone gave me a bottle right now it wouldn't last
very
>long), and I have my doubts as to the fact that the raw materials originate
in
>Scotland. You said :
>I think
>>they buy original old draughts (hope this is the right word) from
scottland.
That´s what they write one the VO-label, but I forgot how many years they
leave it in that draughts.
greetings, karl
Nigel Evans
<lpa...@ivic.qc.ca> writes
>My favorite ones are Lagavulin, Laphroaig
>,Glenkinchie and Talisker.
Glenlivet, Glenfiddich, Glenmorangie take some beating.
I have always felt a little sorry for Thais who think that they know
whisky when they drink that Johnny Walker nonsense. I have a large
bottle of something expensive from Chivas sitting in a cabinet with all
the other brands. I buy it every trip and have about two glasses of the
stuff every year. I'm one of those nutcases who cannot refuse the
opportunity of buying "duty free" goods. For sure I have three big
bottles of Gordon's Gin. I don't even like it ! Silliest thing I ever
did was to buy two bottles of Benedictine. This lasts a whole family a
lifetime ! I have a bottle of Advocaat which is at least ten years old.
I'm wondering if it's still safe to drink it.
--
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Joris Goetschalckx
Long time no see!
Nigel Evans wrote:
> Glenlivet, Glenfiddich, Glenmorangie take some beating.
Which proves that Louis is a man of refined taste. All the more so since the
whiskies you mention are very nice too. Personally I like Lagavullin and
Talisker a lot, but at the moment I am almost addicted to Oban. And you will
be shocked to hear that in Thailand I drink Saengthip (a bottle a day keeps
the doctor away). When in Rome... :-)
>I have a bottle of Advocaat which is at least ten years old.
>I'm wondering if it's still safe to drink it.
Heavens, no! Advocaat is made with eggs...
See you,
Joris
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Nigel Evans <ni...@bleddfa.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I have a bottle of Advocaat which is at least ten years old.
> I'm wondering if it's still safe to drink it.
Oh yes, just scrap off the green layer and it will be fine.
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TMc7062001
In article <909856...@norvic.demon.co.uk>, jay...@norvic.demon.co.uk (John
Sharman) writes:
>I think the confusion arises from the "draughts"; I guess that Karl may
>have meant "casks" (=barrels). Maybe the VO manufacturers age their
>product ("Not a drop sold 'til it's 10 days old") in genuine Scotch
>Whisky casks.
Very perceptive John - makes sense now. Alles klar !
TMcG
....Ken
Well sure, Scotch is fine. Mekhong does the trick. But, the REAL breakfast of
champions first prize must go to the Thai farmers drink 'lao cao' especially
lao cao mixed with 'sponser' (the electrolyte drink).I agree that you must
drink an awful lot before it begins to taste good but it will eventually.
I also like the Thai custom of pouring the first capful of a new bottle onto
the ground, for the spirits.This not only pleases the spirits but it removes
that bit of fusil oil that floats to the top.
regards....Ken
Johpa
>Well sure, Scotch is fine. Mekhong does the trick. But, the REAL breakfast of
>
>champions first prize must go to the Thai farmers drink 'lao cao' especially
>lao cao mixed with 'sponser'
I must admit that lao khao mixed with sponsor is quite toxic, but I would like
to nominate the corn whiskey they make in the Mong villages for the traditional
Mong New Year. I guarantee it would make Lil' Abner blush.
Happy Trails
Johpa
....Ken
says...
>
I would like
>to nominate the corn whiskey they make in the Mong villages for the
traditional
>Mong New Year. I guarantee it would make Lil' Abner blush.
>
>Happy Trails
>
>Johpa
I've drank the corn whisky made in Lisu villages, which is probably the same
as the Hmong.I've made quite a bit of 'shine in my time and this village corn
whisky is truely awful,however, it is distilled using a gourd rather then a
copper or stainless steel pot. That alone makes it noteworthy. They have
difficulty maintaining the appropriate temperature so an abundance of fusil
oil collects with the whisky.If you hold it up to the light and shake it you
can see the fusil oil shimmering in your drink. This is not good. In the 'old
days' this kind of whisky was referred to as 'thump skull'.
You should try everything once.....with the exception of incest and folk
dancing.
regards.......Ken
Ru...@cleaver.com
>
>
>Eric schrieb in Nachricht <363961EB...@bayou.uh.edu>...
>>The difference was explained to me once years ago, can't remember anymore
>>what is the difference. Something about Sang Thip being a "true" rum while
>>Mekhong is made differently (maybe). Mekhong is a lot sweeter though and
>>sugar helps dehydrate, leading to a worse hangover.
>
>
>Why you think thais prefer black-label and such stuff ?
>Thai whiskies and rums are good, no doubt, but there are better ones.
>I recommend `VO´, it´s a scotch-style whiskey made in thailand, I think
>they buy original old draughts (hope this is the right word) from scottland.
>cheap and good.
>And I think there are several things like that, also higher quality.
>Anybody can recommend these ?
>
>>>
>>> > On 26 Oct 1998 18:51:47 GMT, tmc70...@aol.com (TMc7062001) wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Mekhong is Thai "rum"
>>> > Saeng Thip is Thai "whisky/whiskey"
>>>
>>> I'm sure that Mekhong is rum. I read an article in the BKK Post about
>>> this misnomer a few years ago. As for Sang Thip, I'm not sure. I've only
>>> drunk it once and I hardly ever drink any one of them.
>>
>>
Mekhong is good in small doses and it does seem like a necessary
ritual to drink some every trip to Thailand to reacquaint my senses
that I have officially arrived in the Land Of Smiles, but the one
Thai liquour I really like is Black Cat. It's more like a
brandy/whiskey, rather smooth, inexpensive and is easier on the body
the day after. Have any of you tried it?
Some of the local Oriental Markets sell Mekhong for $15/bottle under
the counter, but I havn't been able to find any Black Cat yet here in
California. The quest continues... Fortunately I have a couple
bottles stashed away for cold winter nights.
Rusty Cleaver
Pimman
public skating available. Is this still avaialable?
Are there any other rinks in Bangkok?
Thanks
Pimman
Frank Saether
The ice rink in "The World Trade Centre" is still there. I惴 sorry I can愒
help you locate other rinks. After all I扉e never gone to Thailand to find
ice.
Yours sincerely
Frank
Pimman wrote in message <36435B...@hotmail.com>...
Olav K. Laupsa
Pimman <pim...@hotmail.com> wrote in article <36435B...@hotmail.com>...
> The World Trade Centre shopping centre used to have an ice rink with
> public skating available. Is this still avaialable?
>
> Are there any other rinks in Bangkok?
>
I believe you can find a rink at the Seacon Square center just on the
outskirts of the city.
Good luck.
Olav
Vincent T. Lynch
>The World Trade Centre shopping centre used to have an ice rink with
>public skating available. Is this still avaialable?
>
>Are there any other rinks in Bangkok?
>
>Thanks
>
>Pimman
It's a beautiful rink and was fully operational as of July.
Lelle Pettersson
Ru...@Cleaver.com wrote:
>
>
> Mekhong is good in small doses and it does seem like a necessary
> ritual to drink some every trip to Thailand to reacquaint my senses
> that I have officially arrived in the Land Of Smiles, but the one
> Thai liquour I really like is Black Cat. It's more like a
> brandy/whiskey, rather smooth, inexpensive and is easier on the body
> the day after. Have any of you tried it?
>
> Some of the local Oriental Markets sell Mekhong for $15/bottle under
> the counter, but I havn't been able to find any Black Cat yet here in
> California. The quest continues... Fortunately I have a couple
> bottles stashed away for cold winter nights.
>
> Rusty Cleaver
Hi !
Anyone tried the cheap stuff sold atleast in the southern parts of Thailand - in
bottles with a cork that you rip off instead of the usual screw cork ? My lips
numbed and them tounge swollen. Real toxic ! :-) It had a smell and flawor of
kerosine.
Appearently the so called sea gypsies liked it.
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>> Some of the local Oriental Markets sell Mekhong for $15/bottle under
>> the counter, but I havn't been able to find any Black Cat yet here in
Hmm, I just came back from Thailand and the markets in Koh Samui (Nathon)
were selling Mekhong for 180 baht a bottle (750ml). Which is a lot less than
$15 I think.
Oh yea, a word of advice, don't wait until you get to duty free to buy your
Mekhong, they didn't apear to have any left!...
John.
Johpa
>Oh yea, a word of advice, don't wait until you get to duty free to buy your
>Mekhong, they didn't apear to have any left!...
They do not sell Mae Khong at the duty free. Sometimes you can find the small
bottles at an airport kiosk where it sells for twice the big bottle outside the
airport.
Johpa