Why do Thais HATE Indians??
Arun
dislike) Indians. I have heard this from my Sri Lankan friend who
studied in Thailand. He said Thais consider Indians to be darker than
they are (which may be true) therefore dirty. First I dont know where
they get this theory that being dark is dirty. The Buddha for whom
they have numerous temples is Indian, so is he dirty? I don't know if
its all the Thais or just a few but I consider this a shame on the
people of Thailand. India has contributed more to Thai culture and
history than any other nations and yet they consider them as DIRTY!!
Thats nothing but pure racism and ignorance of ones history. I really
dont know the reason for this would someone please care to comment.
Ohia
"Arun" <arunb...@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
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> I have noticed that a large number of Thai people hate (or just
> dislike) Indians. I have heard this from my Sri Lankan friend who
> studied in Thailand. He said Thais consider Indians to be darker than
> they are (which may be true) therefore dirty.
Perhaps it's that Lamb Stew fragrance. If Indians don't want to be
considered dirty, they should bathe when they are out of their community.
If everyone around you stinks, including yourself, who cares. But when
there are 31 passengers on a bus, let's say, and you are the only
indian....well, 30 passengers are going to be annoyed by your odor.
Tuuk
That being said,
Let me tell you a couple experiences I had, I wont mention the country ( and
wont rant on ) but in a real nice motel one time, after dinner, this Indian
guy, and his family, all well off and had lots of money, in their
traditional dress and sandals, just stood in the middle of the lounge and
entrance way to this motel inside just cleaning their teeth, spitting what
looked like tobacco on the floor, all of them. I mean what is up with that?
There must have been 15 people looking at them wondering but they couldn't
give a shit.
One time at breakfast, I put my toast in the revolving toaster at the
cafeteria style breakfast at this nice motel, this India guy walks up and
grabs my toast that just fell into the basket, gives them a few good sniffs,
then walks on, so I say,,,, Hey,,, the bread is over there, that is the
toaster, that is what you do,, and a few others, I can't remember, so he
puts the toast on my plate, on my tray like no big deal. And he seen that is
how toaster line worked. Whats up with that one?
One time waiting in line at a check in counter, again nice motel, line of I
think 3 of use waiting patiently for the only person there for some reason,
this India guy walks past everyone and starts yelling at the gal to check
in. All of us said something to the guy.
I have a question though,,, I see at our western universities, a few India
students (women) who are nicely dark skinned, and they constantly put a
white power on their face, their entire face. It is not acne medicine or
anything, it is cosmetic power, makeup. But so off color, obvious mismatch,
why do the students do that? All students but makeup on, some of the guys
to, but why do the India students (gals) just load on the white powder like
that, why bother.
Any idea?
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Ohia
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> > dont know the reason for this would someone please care to comment.
>
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JosephP
civilization.
However numerous modern day Indians basically behave like assholes.
This is true in the United States as well as Thailand.
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Bud
civilized world does- the bastards SMELL. And if they need a shit they
don't bother about a toilet- they just drop their pants and do it in
the street.
Crocodile Dundee
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> He said Thais consider Indians to be darker than
> they are (which may be true) therefore dirty. First I dont know where
> they get this theory that being dark is dirty.
Well, I had once a dicussion with a girl from Buriram.
It was about skin colour. She said she like my colour
(white, sorry I never put my ass down on the beach) more as
she does hers. Asked for the reason, she said indeed that it was
a common understandiing in LOS (among Thai's) that people with
a very dark colour are being seen as "dirty".
Somewhere on another forum, someone described the people
from the Surin area as "The Africans of Thailand". I thought that was
also because those people's skin is more dark as others.
Don't know if there is any truth in the above.
Regards,
Crocodile Dundee
---Cry Havoc, and let slip the dogs of war--
bobbyx
trust the Indians too much, but that is just their experience, same with
many others. The Indians make up a lot of the loan sharks in Thailand, not a
way to be liked very well. For my part I think I have met one smelly Thai in
many many years in Thailand. India though stinks and the smell kinda clings
on to the natives, surprisingly even after many years in Thailand. If the
Thais think the Indians are smelly it is rather more through experiencing
the smell than "racism" or "ignorance"
Not that I have anything personally against Indians. But they do smell. No
doubt about that one.
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Arun
> wont rant on ) but in a real nice motel one time, after dinner, this Indian
> guy, and his family, all well off and had lots of money, in their
> traditional dress and sandals, just stood in the middle of the lounge and
> entrance way to this motel inside just cleaning their teeth, spitting what
> looked like tobacco on the floor, all of them. I mean what is up with that?
> There must have been 15 people looking at them wondering but they couldn't
First I should say that seeing some of the comments here makes me
think that most people discussing on this forum sre racists. Secondly
I think your whole cafeteria story is BULLSHIT. There maybe weirdos in
all cultures but you just exagerrated it a bit too much.
We Indians(in India) hear lot of stories of how prostitution is
rampant in Thailand especially Bangkok but we do not go one generalise
that all Thais are prostitutes, infact we respect Thai people and its
culture. It came as a shock to me when my SriLankan friend said what
the Thais felt about Indians and that is the reason for me to post on
the usenet.
What you people should realise is that India is a large country so the
kind people you meet may not represent all of Indian population. Most
of the Indians you have seen in Thailand are poor people who have left
india to seek employment elsewhere. They are unfortunate people who
would do certain jobs that may not be very respectable but one should
appreciate their problems and feelings and not make fun of them or
degrade them. India was once a great civilization which has influced
many cultures, it is unfortunate that years of invasion and looting of
its wealth has left the country very poor. People at the time of
independence did not even have enough food to eat let alone any basic
education. India is learning and developing in its quest to regain
past glory and I would do all I can to contribute towards achieving
this.
U should also note that Indian culture is very diverse. It may seem
strange to you but perfectly normal to us. Similarly certain aspects
of your culture may seem funny to us but one should not make racist
remarks about it. Learn to appreciate other cultures or atleast keep
quite
PS: Just to get this right Indians DO NOT Smell. Dont know where the
heck you guys get this info from. Anothing STOP SREOTYPING people.
Dizzyvise
JosephP
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I agree with everything you say about India being a large country, and one
should not generalize from a small cross section of the people to a country
at large. Howerver, the Indian nationals that I run across are business
owners, software professionals, university academic personnel, relatively
wealthy tourists, etc. I find a large number of them to be obnoxious
inconsiderate assholes. This is not racism. I believe in calling an asshole
and asshole.
I have never been to India and do not know how poor Indians behave. It would
not shock me if the behaved better than their "upper class" brethen.
JosephP
However I have run into a large number of Indian liars, so for me it makes
sense to start with the "assumption" that the next Indian I meet is likely
to be a liar.
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Heng Heng
Indians.
Regarding the smell thing... well, that's a fact. There is a
distinctly strong Indian scent -Indians that are either from Thailand
or India/Pakistan or at least maintain a very "Indian" diet-. My
Indian friends (whom I don't hate) from the US don't smell at all.
Regarding the distrust of Indians (and the "meet an snake and an
Indian, hit the Indian first" type comment), I believe that is simple
"mansai" factor, no different than falangs generalizing on how you
can't trust Thais. That is, Indians (and Sikhs) often get the
better of Thais in business situations. Sometimes honestly,
sometimes not. Thus the comments that you can't trust them (because
the ego doesn't allow one to admit that one is the "losing" or "less
able" party). Same for falang whingers about Thai "dishonesty."
:)
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Ron & Ree
believes their odor comes from a heavy use of peanut oil in their cooking.
--
Ron & Ree Williams - http://www.ronree.com/
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at
once." - Albert Einstein
Ron & Ree
light as possible. This was because being tanned (darker) was associated
with being a laborer out in the fields all day (and probably dirty too).
Now white people want to be tanned because machinery has replaced a lot of
laborers and it is now more associated with the leisure class."The reason many people are lost in thought is because its unfamiliar
territory!" - Alfred E. Newman
Tom
> there are 31 passengers on a bus, let's say, and you are the only
> indian....well, 30 passengers are going to be annoyed by your odor.
Can't disagree much with that. In my bus riding days, and even a few
times recently on the BTS, this has happened to me. Not much you can
do about it, but somehow someone should let the offender know.
Chanchao
some stuff about "Re: Why do Thais HATE Indians??", to which I would like to
add the following:
...note that the offender more often than not is... a Farang tourist...
Cheers,
Chanchao
Loafer
<po...@ERASEronree.com> wrote:
>White people used to protect themselves from the sun to keep their skin as
>light as possible. This was because being tanned (darker) was associated
>with being a laborer out in the fields all day (and probably dirty too).
>Now white people want to be tanned because machinery has replaced a lot of
>laborers and it is now more associated with the leisure class.
It may be because of the socio-economic status, i.e. dark skin ==
hard work in the hot sun to make a living, light skin == sit in
the house all day while servants bring drinks, but this
particular human prejudice seems to exist everywhere in the
world, in Africa as well as Asia and Europe.
--
Roger
Sex is hereditary.
If your parents never had any, chances are you won't either.
froggy
Having lived for several yers in an Indian-owned building in Bangkok I
would say that:
Thais do not "hate" Indians but are prejudiced against them (but they
generally are prejudiced against all non-Thais).
The reason why they consider them as dirty are skin color but mostly
smell.
That also applies to most other "races", including whites. To me, that
people of different origins have different smells is simply a fact
(same as skin colors). I think the reason is part "nature", part
cultural (dietary habits, personnal hygiena). It should not carry any
"judgmental" connotation.
For instance the Thais think that whites smell of rancid butter.
Blacks often think (AFAIK) that whites smell of cadavers. And I think
that Thais generally have very litte body odours.
Lastly the fact that Indians that moved to Thailand were
entrepreneurial and have been reasonably successful may have prompted
some jealousy.
WRT to your comment that "India has contributed more to Thai culture
and history than any other nations", that may be dicussed.
Regarding Buddhism then sorry but it did not originate from India
(AFAIK, Asoke is most likely to be in Pakistan or Afghanistan). But I
am only teasing you.
Generally I do not think that you should be too concerned about what
Thais think about Indians. We all have prejudices, being human.
And remember that *all* generalizations are false ;-)
Cheers,
Froggy
Arun
as loansharks. I agree it is not a favourale position to be in and it
is much like the Jews in the west. So I accept you people being
suspicious of Indians, its natural. I only hope that people who have
participated in the thread do not continue their hatred towards them.
As for as being smelly because of peanut oil I dont know. Thais eat as
much curry as the Indians, do they smell as well? Anyway that depends
upon individual opinion.
I dont know the reason for Indians being brown. It is belived that
indians are a mix of Aryan and Dravidian people. the extent of their
mix depends upon the region they come from i.e, North or South India.
I do not belive that the reason for they being brown is becoz of the
sun. Anyway are the Thai considered as Brown, yellow or White? Just
wanted to clarify.
This may not be related to the topic but I heard HINDI movies are
popular in Thailand, is it true? Similarly I heard there are some
Hindu temples built during the Khmer dynasty in Thailand, is it true
as well?
LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO BE PISSED OFF ---- American Histroy X
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Tuuk
I though you were more a Limo, or Leer jet traveler. You actually take a bus
?
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
You on drugs again today boy? Or did you mix something with your regular
meds?
Washem down with whisky today?
You gotta give the head a shake over this one,,,,
Duh!!!!!
but nobody ever did think you were too smart. You want proof? I can easily
prove it.
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Heng Heng
> as loansharks. I agree it is not a favourale position to be in and it
> is much like the Jews in the west.
Compared to the number of Thai Chinese loansharks, the Indian
loansharks are in the minority by far. There has been a fixed # of
pawn shop licenses granted in the LOS for example... have never even
heard of an Indian run establishment. The same for gold shops. And
the majority of pawn shops and gold shops are also "loan shark" type
unofficial neighborhood banks.
HH
Arun
> (AFAIK, Asoke is most likely to be in Pakistan or Afghanistan). But I
> am only teasing you.
Hmmm.. I dont know where u plucked this one out. Buddha was born in
Lumbini which is modern day Nepal although then it was part of an
Indian empire. U should realise that there were no Nepal, Pakistan and
Bangladesh then, infact there was no India itself. It mainly consisted
of empires located in the Indian subcontinent. Buddha then left his
birth place and attained enlightenment in Bodhgaya which is in India.
He then preached in Sarnath, India. He also died in India. Buddha's
teaching were written in Pali and Sanskrit both Indian languages.
Almost all Buddhist literature was written in Pali and Sanskrit.
Therevadha Buddhism which is practised in Thailand is from Sri Lanka.
By the way Asoka was an Indian emperor who controlled almost all of
North india and Afhghanistan. The history of Pakistan starts only at
1947. When u talk of Indus valley civilization it comes under Indian
history not pakistans, eventhough it is located there.
If you want to learn more about Buddha follow the link
http://www.san.beck.org/EC9-Buddha.html
Next when you challenge historical evidence please show some proof.
Cheers
Ohia
> Come on Ohio,,,,
>
> I though you were more a Limo, or Leer jet traveler. You actually take a
bus
> ?
>
> but nobody ever did think you were too smart. You want proof? I can easily
> prove it.
Okay prove it (should be interesting, if only I knew what "it" you were
trying to prove.
Regardless, tuuk, you are a little mental boy. A retard. A fool. You
entertain me with your obfuscation and
The sign on my learjet states "Please bathe before entering".
Josiah Cod
First you are absolutely correct that Thais are, in general, prejudiced against Indians. I've been at a dinner party with educated
Thais where I and another Farang were discussing the lack of a good Indian restaurant in Chiang Mai, and the presence of excellent
ones in Bangkok (Maharajah restaurant, Sukhumvit Soi 8, for example).
A Thai woman with college degree commented : "uhhhh Indian food : men." Meaning Indian food "stinks." I asked her what exactly she
meant by saying it "stinks" and she elaborated that it "smells like the armpit of an Indian man" at which point I went to another
corner of the room.
I was in a Thai movie theater watching "The English Patient" : at the point where Hanna and the young Sikh start to kiss, a group of
Thai women was sitting behind me : one of them made the sound like you make when you are about to vomit, and the rest of the group
cracked up for five minutes.
I don't know about loan sharks, but Indians have been in every corner of Thailand in the fabric business and other trades a long
time. The Royal Court of the Kingdom has Hindu Brahmin priests who carry out many Brahmanic rituals every year, including the one
where His Majesty plows the fields at Sanam Luang with the Sacred Cows. Hinduism is infused into every corner of Thai life and
culture ranging from the cult of Pi Ganet (Ganesh) to folk customs. Ever stopped at the Erawan Shrine : that's Vishnu. Ever noticed
the old man with the strange top-hat who often sits on a leopard skin somewhere in his own shrine outside Thai temples : that's Lu
See, Siddhartha's teacher in his ascetic years before he became Gautama, the Englightened One.
I do think it has a lot to do with dark skin; the depth of feeling about skin color in Thai people in general continues to amaze me.
A very typical comment by a Chiang Mai native once I have gained their trust is to ask me about why farangs come to Thailand and
marry brown women from Issarn : they are incredulous that a farang would make such a choice.
One friend of mine insists that is the smell of cumin that Thais don't like about Indian food, but that's his hypothesis.
JC
Arun
such a horrible attitude towards Indians. Saying that Indian food
smells like a mans armpit is just over the top. I wonder why so many
westerners(esp Brits) like Indian food. Somehow they dont seem to get
that smell. Thanks for pointing out the Indian influence in Thailand.
Don't the Thais notice that their ancestors had great respect for
Indians and borrowed their culture. If what Josiah said were true I
have to conclude Thais are RACISTS.
If you want to see the Indian influence in Thailand see the following
links
http://www.thaiworldview.com/bouddha/brahma.htm
http://sunsite.au.ac.th/amazing/subculture.html
I am not saying Indians did everything for Thai culture. I am only
pointing out that the Thai ancestors had great respect for them
whereas the current generation treats them like dirt.
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JosephP
The fact that India made great contributions to Thai culture in the past,
does not entitle the current generation of Indians to any automatic respect,
particularly if the act like a bunch of inconsiderate, untrustworthy,
self-serving assholes.
I for one, do like Indian food. However that Thai women is entiled to hate
the smell. That is not racism.
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Talbot Jones
You must realize that most clean people find the Indian to be smelly and repulsive. Of
course they aren't alone in the stench dept. Russians seem to prefer not to bath and many
have this urine/fecal/head cheese aroma that is enough to make one vomit. You can always
tell when one of them is approaching because he has that slicked down hair look. It isn't
because of a purchased hair creme but in fact it is his own sebaceous execrations that
have covered his scalp. Quite repulsive. Many other races when filthy smell like dead dogs
in a sewer rotting away. I would mention one particular race but they whine so much and
demand reparations all the time that it just isn't worth it. They should bath with a fire
hose. Arabs too are rather smelly which in combination with the desert climate is probably
what makes them so crazy and warlike. Camels find them unpleasant smelling.
In general, all I have to say to anyone is to please shower or bathe thoroughly before
venturing out. If you are naturally stinky then use an unscented antiperspirant under your
arms after thoroughly bathing or showering. Actually for you perennial stinkers, showering
is the best because bathing will just deposit that floating film of filth by on your skin
that you collected over the years. When shower try scooping out that layer of filth that
has found a home all around your butt hole. It is surely the deposit of stench from hell.
Please though wash your hands afterwards with soap. No need to deposit that slime in your
armpits and mouth. One last thing. Don't think that slathering perfume on yourself makes
you acceptable. It doesn't, take a long hot soapy shower. Instead of putting a towel on
your head you should use it to dry off after washing your entire body.
As for the Thais? Nice clean folk that know how to not offend. You Indians could learn a
thing or two from them.
Regards..........
Talbot Jones
I've never seen it in Europe. Only in the 19th century did women shield themselves from
the sun to seems more ladylike. Unfortunately they probably didn't bathe except on
Saturday and therefore smelled bad.
Talbot Jones
Arun wrote:
>
> Thanks for pointing it out Josiah. It saddens me that the Thais have
> such a horrible attitude towards Indians. Saying that Indian food
> smells like a mans armpit is just over the top. I wonder why so many
> westerners(esp Brits) like Indian food. Somehow they dont seem to get
> that smell. Thanks for pointing out the Indian influence in Thailand.
> Don't the Thais notice that their ancestors had great respect for
> Indians and borrowed their culture. If what Josiah said were true I
> have to conclude Thais are RACISTS.
I don't see why people want to change the Thais. It's their country and their way of life.
If you don't like it you can go to America or England or Australia or New Zealand and make
all the white people there kiss your unwashed ass. The law is on your side there. Not in
Thailand. Personally I think all those countries mentioned can learn something of national
pride from people like the Thais and the Japanese.
Arun
> all the white people there kiss your unwashed ass. The law is on your side there.
I thought Indians are the only ones who washed their ass unlike other
people who wipe it. ;-)
Got the point that Thais have the right to their opinion. I just want
to give them the right image of my people. If its their right to think
indians are bad its mine to correct it. Its ultimately their choice.
If the Indians in Thai are selfish then its only them at not all
Indians in the world. I wanted to correct it so that I may not face
the same discrimination when I plan to visit that country.
By the by no Indian get his ass kissed in Australia or New Zealand. He
is subjected to mistreatment there as well as in US and UK.
JosephP
New Zealand and make
> > all the white people there kiss your unwashed ass. The law is on your
side there.
>
> I thought Indians are the only ones who washed their ass unlike other
> people who wipe it. ;-)
>
> Got the point that Thais have the right to their opinion. I just want
> to give them the right image of my people. If its their right to think
> indians are bad its mine to correct it. Its ultimately their choice.
> If the Indians in Thai are selfish then its only them at not all
> Indians in the world. I wanted to correct it so that I may not face
> the same discrimination when I plan to visit that country.
I agree with you. But you will have to admit that if person X has met 100
bad apple of type Y, then the 101st person of type Y faces an uphill battle.
Most of this blame falls on the previous 100 bad apples, not person X.
Carlos
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I am not sure about the proper century and if it even lasted a whole century, but it
was a trend in Europe for woman to put lots of talk powder on their face to look
white.
This was only true for the "bourgeoisie" or high-end class people.
The whiter they looked, the more attractive they were.
Nowadays, almost every European woman has a "sun canon" or is enlisted in a program
in a beauty parlor to get a darker look.
Darker look is a synonym to a healthy look.
Pale look is a synonym for being sick.
Many women in the west are abusing this "sun tan" in such a way that they look almost
black or have developed already a skin cancer.
A google search will give you lot's more information and even pictures about this.
Carlos
Wiwat Chang
Skin colour is one of the racist thing Thais, in general, regard as being
associated with class of people.
To put simply: the lighter the more refined and the darker the less
civilized.
Of course, youth culture in Thailand today show their devout worship to the
extremely pale and slim and has nothing to do with Thai racism of old.
My fiancee is Thai and dark, eventhough her parents are from the central
region, yet she is often looked down.
Enough of that external factor now.
I believe the key factor in Thais' generalization about Indians - or "Khaek"
in general - and the dislike is in the "pushiness" of Indians.
To (many) Thais, Indians are pushy, Malays are rude, Chinese are vulgar, and
white westerners are true gods.
There's a Thai racist joke about Indians...
"If you come across an Indian and a Cobra, which one do you strike with your
cane first?"
"The Indian, of course!"
This should illustrate how much Thais despise Indians.
That said, having been to quite a number of countries in Asia and Europe, I
find that the hypocritical ones of any nationality the least likely persons
I want to associated with.
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> I have noticed that a large number of Thai people hate (or just
> dislike) Indians. I have heard this from my Sri Lankan friend who
> studied in Thailand. He said Thais consider Indians to be darker than
Roscoe
>
> "JosephP" <joe...@infosve.co.au> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Arun" <arunb...@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
>> news:a8c8c6c6.04041...@posting.google.com...
>>> > If you don't like it you can go to America or England or Australia or
>> New Zealand and make
>>> > all the white people there kiss your unwashed ass. The law is on your
>> side there.
>>>
>>> I thought Indians are the only ones who washed their ass unlike other
>>> people who wipe it. ;-)
>>>
>>> Got the point that Thais have the right to their opinion. I just want
>>> to give them the right image of my people. If its their right to think
>>> indians are bad its mine to correct it. Its ultimately their choice.
>>> If the Indians in Thai are selfish then its only them at not all
>>> Indians in the world. I wanted to correct it so that I may not face
>>> the same discrimination when I plan to visit that country.
>>
>> I agree with you. But you will have to admit that if person X has met 100
>> bad apple of type Y, then the 101st person of type Y faces an uphill
>> battle.
>> Most of this blame falls on the previous 100 bad apples, not person X.
>>
>
>
judges the remaining 999,999,999 apples by that experience.
Or, person X heard from person Z who heard from a friend's cousin's
acquaintance who had a bad experience with Y and so on...
Cheers,
Roscoe
>
>
>
Roscoe
>
> As for the Thais? Nice clean folk that know how to not offend. You Indians
> could learn a
> thing or two from them.
>
>
> Regards..........
I actually met quite a few Indians with little or no body odour. So does
your comment on "you Indians" exclude those, or are you streotyping somehow?
On the other hand, I know from long time experience that if Thais really
"know how to not offend", then some of them must be offensive on purpose.
Are you suggesting "the Indians" need to take a few more lessons in
hypocrasy and deceitfulness?
Cheers,
Roscoe
Roscoe
A behaviour that gave the World, among other things, perfume. And the habit
of not bathing hasn't really changed that much :-)
Cheers,
Roscoe
John Sharman
[..]
> If that were only so. More often, person X meets 1 bad apple of Y and
>judges the remaining 999,999,999 apples by that experience.
>
>Or, person X heard from person Z who heard from a friend's cousin's
>acquaintance who had a bad experience with Y and so on...
OTOH, If I know that I like oranges, how many apples do you insist
that I must try before you will allow me to decide that I usually
prefer oranges?
--
Regards,
John Sharman
<jays...@myrealbox.com>
Tchiowa
I guess the obvious question is that since we're talking about race
here, why do you have racial prejudices in the first place? Why do you
"prefer oranges"?
cath402
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of Europe (Sweden, Netherlands, etc ..). My skin is very light, and I don't
tan easily. If I insist I will get as red as a lobster and it will make me
sick. So I don't see why I should torture myself, just to be "in the mood".
Talbot Jones
It isn't a matter of racial prejudices but experience. We each have a baselines to go by
in life that are developed by experience. I wouldn't go into certain areas at certain
times of the day (or at all of that matter) because certain people of certain types would
most certainly look at me as a certain type that could be taken advantage of. It is really
that simple. Saying racial prejudice only sways people that have little experience of the
world. It's disingenuous and pretty much anyone that uses the term racial prejudice as
leverage is a shady character looking for an advantage to the detriment of another.
Behaving with prejudice toward a stranger isn't immoral. It is the synthesis of
experience. Of course we all have to tolerate each other but that is about it. In no way
will I drop my guard if I see a member of a group that has a high probability of being
dishonest and/or dangerous.
One more thing, use lots of soap.
Tchiowa
> Tchiowa wrote:
> >
> > John Sharman <jay...@john-sharman.co.uk> wrote in message news:<bphi709h1u6rnucn8...@4ax.com>...
> > > On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:47:20 +0700, " Roscoe" <nos...@asm.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > [..]
> > >
> > > > If that were only so. More often, person X meets 1 bad apple of Y and
> > > >judges the remaining 999,999,999 apples by that experience.
> > > >
> > > >Or, person X heard from person Z who heard from a friend's cousin's
> > > >acquaintance who had a bad experience with Y and so on...
> > >
> > > OTOH, If I know that I like oranges, how many apples do you insist
> > > that I must try before you will allow me to decide that I usually
> > > prefer oranges?
> >
> > I guess the obvious question is that since we're talking about race
> > here, why do you have racial prejudices in the first place? Why do you
> > "prefer oranges"?
>
> It isn't a matter of racial prejudices but experience. We each have a
> baselines to go by in life that are developed by experience.
But when you apply those "baselines" and turn them in to making
judgements on people because they share similar physically
characteristics is wrong. Just that simple. It's wrong.
> I wouldn't go into certain areas at certain times of the day (or at all of
> that matter) because certain people of certain types would most certainly
> look at me as a certain type that could be taken advantage of. It is really
> that simple. Saying racial prejudice only sways people that have little
> experience of the world.
I'd be willing to bet that I have been in more places in this world
and experience more different cultures than most others, including you
probably. And my experience is that the more time and experience you
have in the world, the *LESS* likely you are to make those types of
judgements. You begin to learn that people are people everywhere, they
share similar levels of honesty, trust, etc. There are good and bad in
pretty much the same ratio regardless of any racial basis.
> It's disingenuous and pretty much anyone that uses the term racial prejudice
> as leverage is a shady character looking for an advantage to the detriment of
> another.
Actually, anyone making that type of an argument is probably a racist
trying to rationalize his behavior.
> Behaving with prejudice toward a stranger isn't immoral.
OF COURSE IT IS!!!!! It is extremely unfair to that individual. You
are judging him and treating him not as who he is or what he does or
how he acts but on the basis of what you THINK he will do or how you
THINK he will act or what you THINK he is like purely because of his
physical features.
It's hard to think of something more immoral.
> It is the synthesis of experience. Of course we all have to tolerate each
> other but that is about it. In no way will I drop my guard if I see a member
> of a group that has a high probability of being dishonest and/or dangerous.
Labelling a person like that is racism, pure and simple. Here's a
dictionary definition for you:
Racism: The belief that race accounts for differences in human
character.
And here is one for prejudice: An adverse judgment or opinion formed
beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
Talbot Jones
Tchiowa wrote:
>
> Talbot Jones <talbo...@eln.net> wrote in message news:<407B3668...@eln.net>...
> > Tchiowa wrote:
<snip of nonsense>
I didn't say race, I said type. Prejudging is done all the time by everyone. Go ahead and
trust a used cars salesman or a young drug addict holding a lead pipe over your head. If
you can't recognize your own personal prejudicial behavior than more the fool you. As for
race, I find nothing wrong in the pride that Thais or Japanese have in their races. Why
shouldn't others too? Why shouldn't others prefer their own kind and teach their children
that the way Thais and Japanese do?
Tchiowa
You start by saying it's not race and end by making a racial argument.
Why shouldn't people judge others by race (which is what you actually
asked)? Because it is wrong. And stupid.
As the poet said "If you can judge a wise man by the color of his skin
then mister you're a better man than I".
Robert Hauger
INDIAN women put white powder on their faces for the same reason THAI
women do.
Next time you are in a club with flashing UV lights check out the girls.
ROBERT B.HAUGER
Robert Hauger
neither my x or her indian father stunk
ROBERT B.HAUGER
Tuuk
earrings, tattoos. I have seen a student's drilled front tooth where they
put a stud through. A lot of students like to be looked at. So the obviously
over done white powder over the face has no religious meaning and only an
attention or symbolic or status statement.
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Ohia
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>
> "If you can judge a wise man by the color of his skin
> then mister you're a better man than I".
Most humans are better than you.
froggy
> Next when you challenge historical evidence please show some proof.
As I said, this was only to tease you. Why would I bother with facts
;-)
Sorry if my response offended you. You seem to take that whole
business very much at heart.
Cheers,
Froggy
Tuuk
No Ohio,, most humans are better than you!!!, Humans do not need to lie
about what they have or do not have just to project themselves as bigger or
better than they actually are.
I mean, most humans are born one nationality and remain that nationality,
they do not defect when they are shamed in one country, they face the music
and rebuild. They do not leave their country only to badmouth it to no end.
No,, Ohio,, Mostly all humans are better than you.
And yes, I just took my meds.
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Amanda
> I do not hate Indians by any means,,,,,,,
Why don't you just say "we southeast Asians are more racist than
anyone know". Between white American tourist and Back American
tourist, the whites gets treated like prince and princess while the
Blacks get stares from the Thais.
But South Asia is no exception to racism and prejudice either. Upper
caste look down on lower caste though the new generation seem to be
chnanging ..
This caste based mentality still exists among the Mulsims of South
Asia.
About the powder thing, it's not just Indian girls who do that;
southeast Asian girls also do that.
One reason in the past may be lack of availabilty of the right shade
of powder and make-up. The Indian girls in western coutries will
learn to buy the right shade for their face --in time -- though they
may be using whetever they brought or sent from home for a while....
> That being said,
> Let me tell you a couple experiences I had, I wont mention the country ( and
> wont rant on ) but in a real nice motel one time, after dinner, this Indian
> guy, and his family, all well off and had lots of money, in their
> traditional dress and sandals, just stood in the middle of the lounge and
> entrance way to this motel inside just cleaning their teeth, spitting what
> looked like tobacco on the floor, all of them. I mean what is up with that?
> There must have been 15 people looking at them wondering but they couldn't
> give a shit.
>
> One time at breakfast, I put my toast in the revolving toaster at the
> cafeteria style breakfast at this nice motel, this India guy walks up and
> grabs my toast that just fell into the basket, gives them a few good sniffs,
> then walks on, so I say,,,, Hey,,, the bread is over there, that is the
> toaster, that is what you do,, and a few others, I can't remember, so he
> puts the toast on my plate, on my tray like no big deal. And he seen that is
> how toaster line worked. Whats up with that one?
>
> One time waiting in line at a check in counter, again nice motel, line of I
> think 3 of use waiting patiently for the only person there for some reason,
> this India guy walks past everyone and starts yelling at the gal to check
> in. All of us said something to the guy.
>
> I have a question though,,, I see at our western universities, a few India
> students (women) who are nicely dark skinned, and they constantly put a
> white power on their face, their entire face. It is not acne medicine or
> anything, it is cosmetic power, makeup. But so off color, obvious mismatch,
> why do the students do that? All students but makeup on, some of the guys
> to, but why do the India students (gals) just load on the white powder like
> that, why bother.
> Any idea?
>
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>
> "Arun" <arunb...@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
Amanda
> I have met some in the US that have an odor and some that don't. My wife
> believes their odor comes from a heavy use of peanut oil in their cooking.
No, not peanut oil. Thai uses peanut oil too. It's mustard oil that
they use in cooking.
And not covering the hair when cooking and not changing shirt after
cooking and keeping clother out of reach of the aroma during cooking,
would ensure smells lingering.
I noticed that almost every Asian foreign student's apartment has some
stale smell from cooking simply becuase they don't vent out the
garlic smell, etc. Due to a nasal condition that makes me very
sensitive to smell, I get headache from it..
Amanda
> Ok I believe the reason for Indians being hated beacause of their role
> as loansharks. I agree it is not a favourale position to be in and it
> is much like the Jews in the west. So I accept you people being
> suspicious of Indians, its natural. I only hope that people who have
> participated in the thread do not continue their hatred towards them.
> As for as being smelly because of peanut oil I dont know. Thais eat as
> much curry as the Indians,
Not all curries are made the same way. Thai curries don not use the
same spices used by Indians. The kew ingredients are usally are cilli
powder, garlic, lemon grass, and a tiny bit of fish sauce. Of course a
bit of ginger and thinsg too.
>do they smell as well? Anyway that depends
> upon individual opinion.
I say that Indians can eat what they want and not smell if they know
how to handle it.
>
> I dont know the reason for Indians being brown. It is belived that
> indians are a mix of Aryan and Dravidian people. the extent of their
> mix depends upon the region they come from i.e, North or South India.
> I do not belive that the reason for they being brown is becoz of the
> sun. Anyway are the Thai considered as Brown, yellow or White? Just
> wanted to clarify.
>
> This may not be related to the topic but I heard HINDI movies are
> popular in Thailand, is it true? Similarly I heard there are some
> Hindu temples built during the Khmer dynasty in Thailand, is it true
> as well?
>
>
> LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO BE PISSED OFF ---- American Histroy X
Amanda
> > If you don't like it you can go to America or England or Australia or New Zealand and make
> > all the white people there kiss your unwashed ass. The law is on your side there.
>
> I thought Indians are the only ones who washed their ass unlike other
> people who wipe it. ;-)
>
> Got the point that Thais have the right to their opinion. I just want
> to give them the right image of my people.
Arun,
It seems that you want Indians to be portrayed positively in every
aspecrs. The fact is it just isn't the case.
In US, majority of Indians students routinely lie, and unnecessarily I
may add. It was a very annoying .. for me and for that reason, I
didn't make friends (close friends) with them because I feel insulted
with each lie. I must tell you though that in the second time (I went
back to school), toward my graduation time, the new generation of
Indian students (in their early 20s) that arrived seemed to be much
better in that they seemed to have less prejudiced, less arrogant, and
less smelly too (and in fact no smellw ith some). I think that it is
due to the world becoming smaller and people being more exposed to
other cultures, etc.
I mentioned about smell because there ewere some that gave me such
sinus headache due to the smell. Because my condition, the smell is
very dibilitating..to me and sititng in a class, gettign soem smell
from the hair of a female student 3 rows before me was very
disappointing..
Loafer
wrote:
>" Tuuk" <bangkok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<426dc.11844$R37...@read1.cgocable.net>...
>> I do not hate Indians by any means,,,,,,,
>
> Why don't you just say "we southeast Asians are more racist than
>anyone know". Between white American tourist and Back American
>tourist, the whites gets treated like prince and princess while the
>Blacks get stares from the Thais.
>
5555555! I remember the first time I went to Lop Buri (actually
the countryside outside the city), the neighbors had never seen a
farang before (surprising to me, because the U.S. Special Forces
training camp for Thai soldiers was there). The young kids came
up to me and rubbed my arms to see if the white stuff would come
off!!! They couldn't stop staring.
By the way, Tuuk is not Southeast Asian -- he has claimed to be
Canadian, although to me he often sounds more like Afrikaans.
--
Roger
Arun
> arunb...@yahoo.co.in (Arun) wrote
>
> > Next when you challenge historical evidence please show some proof.
>
> As I said, this was only to tease you. Why would I bother with facts
> ;-)
> Sorry if my response offended you. You seem to take that whole
> business very much at heart.
I am not taking it serious, just want to defend my people.
Ohia
> """Most humans are better than you.""'
>
>
> No Ohio,, most humans are better than you!!!, Humans do not need to lie
> about what they have or do not have just to project themselves as bigger
or
> better than they actually are.
> I mean, most humans are born one nationality and remain that nationality,
> they do not defect when they are shamed in one country, they face the
music
> and rebuild. They do not leave their country only to badmouth it to no
end.
> No,, Ohio,, Mostly all humans are better than you.
> And yes, I just took my meds.
>
You're as stupid as bush, you think your lies are good enough to dupe
people. What you don't realize is that most people are smarter than you so
you just come across as an infant or mental patient.
You really seem mentally ill to me.
Regardless, what you think or what lies you tell have absolutely no effect
on what I do, what I am, how much I make and how much I will continue to
make.
The difference between you and I is, I can play on the computer because most
of my work is web related...I'm making big bucks while sitting here bouncing
you like a yoyo.
Tuuk
spent preparing documents or researching on the computer, or surfing on ebay
or of course as the days progress I deviate to the groups or what ever non
work related interests.
""""What lies, tuuk. The only lies are your distortions of what I really
Lies?? I am simply repeating your own words, for example when you said you
were the 100% owner of the largest exporter/importer in Thailand I found
that interesting. When you said you communicate to your employees through
proxy and your penis. I also found that interesting. Then you said you will
pay off all your employees with the ownership of all your assets, businesses
within two years. Again I found that interesting. Then you said that all
your factories are all air-conditioned and you will build yourself a home in
the North East on one of your employees properties, and all the muslims (at
least 20) offer you into their homes daily. Is that why today you said """I
don't have to pay to get intimate attention...if you know
what I mean :)'''"' Do you simply abuse your muslim friends who invite you
into their homes? These also your employees? I mean, you said all these,
and hey,,, I gotta give you credit. That is not bad to be that successful
and well liked. I have to tip my hat to you. Unless you are a liar, then
well none of this is real. But I don't think so, why would someone make up
such ridiculous situations.
Na,,, you have done alright there Ohio, you were born in the U.S., you are
an American, and you left America for the South East Asian countries to make
millions. Hey,, not bad, and if you do treat your employees as magnanimous
as you say, then that is not bad.
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Ohia
> Interesting there Ohio,,, I enjoy the same liberties. Most of my day is
> spent preparing documents or researching on the computer, or surfing on
ebay
> or of course as the days progress I deviate ...
You sure do!
Amanda
> Loafer wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 22:05:52 GMT, "Ron & Ree"
> > <po...@ERASEronree.com> wrote:
> >
> > >White people used to protect themselves from the sun to keep their skin as
> > >light as possible. This was because being tanned (darker) was associated
> > >with being a laborer out in the fields all day (and probably dirty too).
> > >Now white people want to be tanned because machinery has replaced a lot of
> > >laborers and it is now more associated with the leisure class.
> >
> > It may be because of the socio-economic status, i.e. dark skin ==
> > hard work in the hot sun to make a living, light skin == sit in
> > the house all day while servants bring drinks, but this
> > particular human prejudice seems to exist everywhere in the
> > world, in Africa as well as Asia and Europe.
> > --
> > Roger
> >
> > Sex is hereditary.
> > If your parents never had any, chances are you won't either.
>
> I've never seen it in Europe. Only in the 19th century did women shield >themselves from
> the sun to seems more ladylike.
I should have responded the first time I read this a few days ago.
Well, there were some German students in the school I was going to and
we were hanging out (I had some friends in MBA program and some of
these germans were in MBA programs + most of us lived in Student
Housing for grad students), and there were two of them looking for
Sunscreen desperately as we went shopping. One even said, I don't want
my skin gets dark. One thing I noticed was that they were so worried
about being mistaken as Americans and were probably trying to preserve
the kind of German shade they had so that they wouldn't be mistaken
as Americans by apperance.
Tuuk
Yes, this is true, people who travel globally from the west usually try to
pass as Canadians. This does give them sometimes some preferential treatment
globally and could reduce any cause for conflicts. Plus when they think your
Canadian they usually believe you to be an intelligent tourist, highly
educated and most respected. I know many who travel globally who claim they
are Canadian when in fact they are not. It is not illegal to put a Canadian
patch on your back pack or Canadian Jacket.
Germans mostly have fair skin, very light and most sensitive to the sun.
Going out into the sun today unprotected is very damaging to your skin and
can cause sun marks. So the students you were suggesting didn't want their
skin to turn color so they looked like American is a bad theory, they simply
wanted to protect their skin from the sun's harmful rays.
Your theory of ,,,,,,
""'One thing I noticed was that they were so worried
about being mistaken as Americans and were probably trying to preserve
the kind of German shade they had so that they wouldn't be mistaken
as Americans by apperance."'''''
This is a most ridiculous statement and holds no water. It actually lacks
intelligence. You certainly could not pass for a Canadian. German possibly
but never a Canadian.
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rc
Farnags do to.
And the Malays, and so on.
Amanda
> Yes, this is true, people who travel globally from the west usually try to
> pass as Canadians. This does give them sometimes some preferential treatment
> globally and could reduce any cause for conflicts. Plus when they think your
> Canadian they usually believe you to be an intelligent tourist, highly
> educated and most respected. I know many who travel globally who claim they
> are Canadian when in fact they are not. It is not illegal to put a Canadian
> patch on your back pack or Canadian Jacket.
> Germans mostly have fair skin, very light and most sensitive to the sun.
> Going out into the sun today unprotected is very damaging to your skin and
> can cause sun marks. So the students you were suggesting didn't want their
> skin to turn color so they looked like American is a bad theory, they simply
> wanted to protect their skin from the sun's harmful rays.
>
> Your theory of ,,,,,,
>
> ""'One thing I noticed was that they were so worried
> about being mistaken as Americans and were probably trying to preserve
> the kind of German shade they had so that they wouldn't be mistaken
> as Americans by apperance."'''''
>
>
> This is a most ridiculous statement and holds no water.
It's not just my theory. All of them give verbal clue (to me) of
their fear being mistaken as Americans. Of course, they had German
accent and once they opened their mouth, people could tell ..but
still, they were arrogant enough to display their desire to be
differentiated from the Americans. No offense to the Americans.
Germans are rather serious people and they find American jokes..well,
stupid, unfortunately.
ashfield
> "Arun" <arunb...@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
> news:a8c8c6c6.04040...@posting.google.com...
> ( and
> > > wont rant on ) but in a real nice motel one time, after dinner, this
> Indian
> > > guy, and his family, all well off and had lots of money, in their
> > > traditional dress and sandals, just stood in the middle of the lounge
> and
> > > entrance way to this motel inside just cleaning their teeth, spitting
> what
> > > looked like tobacco on the floor, all of them. I mean what is up with
> that?
> > > There must have been 15 people looking at them wondering but they
> couldn't
> >
> > First I should say that seeing some of the comments here makes me
> > think that most people discussing on this forum sre racists. Secondly
> > I think your whole cafeteria story is BULLSHIT. There maybe weirdos in
> > all cultures but you just exagerrated it a bit too much.
> >
> > We Indians(in India) hear lot of stories of how prostitution is
> > rampant in Thailand especially Bangkok but we do not go one generalise
> > that all Thais are prostitutes, infact we respect Thai people and its
> > culture. It came as a shock to me when my SriLankan friend said what
> > the Thais felt about Indians and that is the reason for me to post on
> > the usenet.
> >
> > What you people should realise is that India is a large country so the
> > kind people you meet may not represent all of Indian population. Most
> > of the Indians you have seen in Thailand are poor people who have left
> > india to seek employment elsewhere. They are unfortunate people who
> > would do certain jobs that may not be very respectable but one should
> > appreciate their problems and feelings and not make fun of them or
> > degrade them. India was once a great civilization which has influced
> > many cultures, it is unfortunate that years of invasion and looting of
> > its wealth has left the country very poor. People at the time of
> > independence did not even have enough food to eat let alone any basic
> > education. India is learning and developing in its quest to regain
> > past glory and I would do all I can to contribute towards achieving
> > this.
> >
> > U should also note that Indian culture is very diverse. It may seem
> > strange to you but perfectly normal to us. Similarly certain aspects
> > of your culture may seem funny to us but one should not make racist
> > remarks about it. Learn to appreciate other cultures or atleast keep
> > quite
> >
> > PS: Just to get this right Indians DO NOT Smell. Dont know where the
> > heck you guys get this info from. Anothing STOP SREOTYPING people.
>
> I agree with everything you say about India being a large country, and one
> should not generalize from a small cross section of the people to a country
> at large. Howerver, the Indian nationals that I run across are business
> owners, software professionals, university academic personnel, relatively
> wealthy tourists, etc. I find a large number of them to be obnoxious
> inconsiderate assholes. This is not racism. I believe in calling an asshole
> and asshole.
>
> I have never been to India and do not know how poor Indians behave. It would
> not shock me if the behaved better than their "upper class" brethen.
josephp
you are an asshole. there are assholes in every community and the you are the asshole of the community. get it right straight on your fuckin face. childish cunt
ashbandy...@gmail.com
> I have met some in the US that have an odor and some that don't. My wife
> believes their odor comes from a heavy use of peanut oil in their cooking.
>
> Ron & Ree Williams - http://www.ronree.com/
> "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at
> once." - Albert Einstein
hi ron and ree
i shall go with the saying of enistine
ashbandy...@gmail.com
> On 8 Apr 2004 17:05:34 -0700, angelhead...@operamail.com (Tom) wrote
> some stuff about "Re: Why do Thais HATE Indians??", to which I would like to
> add the following:
> >> If everyone around you stinks, including yourself, who cares. But when
> >> there are 31 passengers on a bus, let's say, and you are the only
> >> indian....well, 30 passengers are going to be annoyed by your odor.
> >
> >Can't disagree much with that. In my bus riding days, and even a few
> >times recently on the BTS, this has happened to me. Not much you can
> >do about it, but somehow someone should let the offender know.
>
> ...note that the offender more often than not is... a Farang tourist...
>
> Cheers,
> Chanchao
really
clueless foreigner
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> "Arun" <arunb...@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
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> > I have noticed that a large number of Thai people hate (or just
> > dislike) Indians. I have heard this from my Sri Lankan friend who
> > studied in Thailand. He said Thais consider Indians to be darker than
> > they are (which may be true) therefore dirty.
>
> considered dirty, they should bathe when they are out of their community.
> If everyone around you stinks, including yourself, who cares. But when
> there are 31 passengers on a bus, let's say, and you are the only
> indian....well, 30 passengers are going to be annoyed by your odor.
COLOUR OF SKIN: The races differ in skin color because of different levels of melanin production. All races have approximately the same number of melanocytes, or melanin-making cells, but they differ in how actively the cells make melanin.
My dear Thais, even if you hate Indians you cant go away from them, because if you research 10 generations behind you, you would realise you are none other than them. I have seen so many names in Bankgok having Indian origin. Whenever you ridicule indians, you just do it yourself. All the armpits dont smell good. Western people use more perfumes while indians use rarely. Let the western men come without pefumes and smell them before they take bath , I assure you a promised vomit to you - because they eat more beef but live in cold or mild temperature. So sweating is less likely than regular. India is a tropical country like thailand but has dynamic temperatures at various seasons. This temperature forms part of the colour. Where is this colour on your skin? The balck or dirty colour that you are talking about is a matter of 1 mm layer on the skin which is due to heavy melamine. Just remove the outer layer of skin of both a Westerner and an Indian and put both of them together and call a third person to identify who is westerner and who is Indian. Most Thais consider India as poor nation, but that wrong, India is a fast developing country and has poor people too. 35% of NASA employees are Indians. Indians have very good leadership qualities and skills. Once even Bill gates said , " If Indians are not allowed in Microsoft in U.S., I wont mind even to take Microsoft to India". Top guys in Microsoft are Indians.
Some think, those indians visit Thainland are from lower middle class, how false this is!!. A lower middle class cant afford to buy foreign package. If some misbehaves you cant consider all to be the same.
My dear Brothrs and Sisters of Thailand, I have visited Thailand so many times , but i never went to a gogo bars or bars in Pattaya or BKK or anywhere in Thailand. I was never behind a thai girls. When i had a massage, I had it from a male only which doesnt mean i cant drive, but had no mind for that. All the Indians are not the same - pls change your mind. Some say Indian are stingy or Miser - You pls search cheap hotels in BKK or Pattaya for less than 500 bhats, read the review of the customers. I can assure you that more reviews are from the so called white Westerners and non-Indians which means most Indian guys visiting thailand prefer medium to best hotels.
I can tell you a fact. When I was with a package tour to BKK temples, there were about 14 persons with me. I was only Indian and rest were from Europe, Australia and other nations. The tour guide ( Thai person )was very sticky and loyal to them looking at their colours. At one moment he said in tears that he was from a poor family just to gain the attention group. When i asked him few doubts abut templs, he explained with less interst but very sweet to other people thinking they will give him big money. Tour ended in the evening , some fought with him to arrange vehicle to hotels, some silently left. I saw no one gave him a small tip. All are from rich countries haha !!. Finally he arranged car to me as the last choice and I left with smile giving him something. You know guys - he was tears with bowed hands. I , without any speech, showed him how he treated me, and how I treated him in return.
Well cultured Indians will not annoy others.
I apologise for some bad people from India who gain bad impression from thai people.
India has poor people too as most countries have. We can see a decent beg in London too rarely. Indians - the so called Blacks - reached MARS in a maiden attempt while it was a big big fight Europe and rest of the Nations.
Indian Tourists give business to thai people about 1500 crore bhats every year. They are your guest, you too have their gene, when you tease indians you tease yourself my dear Thai People. We love you , that why we visit your nation. Or tell Thai Government not to issue Visa to Indian tourist if you dislike them.
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> I have noticed that a large number of Thai people hate (or just
> dislike) Indians. I have heard this from my Sri Lankan friend who
> studied in Thailand. He said Thais consider Indians to be darker than
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> Thais hate liars. Indians always lie.
This is not true.This is a big lie.I would say you are a liar.Everyone lies at some point of their life.It's just not Indians who lie.I bet you have lied more than anybody else have from your life...:( and never call Indians are liar,what if i call people from your country liars.What woukd you say and how would you feel.I will be waiting for your reply.
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Gauravjeet Singh
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hi to all users here , now let me say something out here or may be u can say that add to your guys knowledge , I travelled Thailand many times and what I noticed about Indians being hate by Thais people is their negotiation things specially when they( Indians) pick up the girl from bars or may be from the street of pattaya beach , secondly I don't think that Indians should feel bad or take it in either ways ( with due respect ) 65% tourism in Thailand is from India and mostly tourist who travel to Thailand they are not much educated ( as many user have example in their comments) which actually ruined the entire India reputation , now moving ahead let's talk about Thais 70-80% Thai girls are either working in bars or working as a sex workers ( may be in % I m not correct but nearly about) can anyone in this form des robe me or explain me what Thailand as a country is famous for ( ofcourse the first things comes in many no is prostitution ) now when u compare India to Thailand ( India is moving towards universe( talk about scientists) , medical ( ratio of Indians doctors in the world) , telecom( who is the Ceo of Microsoft ) and much more, so I request all Indians stop travelling to Thailand and let see how they survive with farand tourism which is not even 35% and mostly who sit with draft beer in a bar and can spend 3-4 hours with same draft ( at last no heart feelings , no racism ) just the answer to all the users who are posting on this page ...atleast India is not know as sex tourist country..
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Indian tourists amounted to something like a half million in 2015.
Compared to Chinese - 4 million, Malaysian ~ 2 million and even tiny
Laos ( 565,000).
As for 70 - 80 percent of Thai women working as sex workers, again
that is simply foolishness. Firstly there are no accurate figures for
the percentage of Thai women who are in the sex business and there
have been innumerable studies done, with estimates that varied so
widely that it is obvious that no one really knows what the figure is.
As for Indian tourists not visiting Thailand? Who cares, the Chinese
and other Asian countries provide such a multitude of tourists that
the loss of Indian tourists will not even be noticed.
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Ps. Whoever said Indians smell, well your countries smell like rotten fish all the time, poor countries, downmarket thinking.
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John B.
>Because India is rich and their country survives on India's money that comes from the tourists. Thais just do two things- massages and prostitution and idiots are proud of it, crap!
>Ps. Whoever said Indians smell, well your countries smell like rotten fish all the time, poor countries, downmarket thinking.
majority of Thailand's tourists - some 8 million in 2015, the next
largest group is Malaysians, then Japan, Korea, Laos and finally India
with a paltry 1 million. Moneys spent was China -189.919 billion baht,
Malaysia spent 39.755 billion and India isn't even mentioned in the
top 10 money spenders. In comparison France who didn't make the top 10
in arrivals spent more then India. So essentially India does provide a
substantial number of tourists to Thailand but they spend very little
money. Your thesis that Thailand lives on Indian money is silly.
It might also be mentioned that:
GDP Per capita
India $2,625.09 per capita
Ranked 130th.
Thailand
$8,655.90 per capita
Ranked 47th. 3 times more than India
GDP Per capita
purchasing power parity (PPP)
India $3,800.00
Ranked 132nd.
Thailand $9,500.00
Ranked 90th. 3 times more than India
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> I am so sorry that the Thai people have such a bad perception about Indians.It is probably due to the experiences you have with some of them.But you should understand that all Indians do not smell, do not lie, are not perverts or loan sharks or misers. India has a variety of cultures and religions and also different colours, some are extremely fair and some are extremely dark, that doesn't make them good or bad.It is the person who has a good heart or not. I believe each and every person, not only Indians should get a fair chance to prove themselves to show their characters regardless of nationality. We all are humans made by God and we should have love for each other as we all are connected one way or the other. No one is superior or inferior, we are made for love not hate. And hating, which is such a strong emotion ,all Indians before knowing them as an individual and judging them is wrong. And we all are here because God made this world with different people.God didn't make any individual dark or fair with a purpose. God loves all of us and all this hate I see on this forum is very sad. I know any person born in our country represent us in the world but you should remember that as you think that you are not a Carbon copy of another Thai person, the same way we are also not like another Indian. I see some people agreeing as some people have had very different good experience with an Indian. We are different people and probably are not perfect but we are good people and don't like to hurt others purposely. It would be great to be treated differently as we treat you with respect and love.
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John B.
fully aware that it is utter hogwash.
The secret in any backward country's development is jobs. If you can
reach 100% employment then you have reached a level of development
that allows the country to advance rapidly.
Singapore was probably the first Asian country to realize this and as
soon as they attained independence they went hunting for foreign
companies to come to Singapore and open up a business. Hire our
people. Did it work? Certainly it did. Singapore now has over 100%
employment, some 1 million foreign workers come across the causeway
every day to work in the Singaporean industry.
Thailand, being a canny country did exactly the same thing. Invited in
foreign investment and now has in excess of 100% employment with
nearly 2 million foreign workers.
Both Indonesia and Vietnam discovered the secret and did, or are
doing, exactly the same thing. Invite in foreign investment, make jobs
for your people, and reap the benefits.
India, on the other hand appears to do exactly the opposite. Ignore
foreign investment and, of course, ignore the millions of poor.
The result, of course, is one of the poorest economies in the world.
Of some 175 countries, listed by the World Bank ,India rates, 113 in
Per capita GDP, just above Uzbekistan.
In contrast Singapore rates 3rd, Thailand rates 64th and even China
with its larger population rates 70th.
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> I have noticed that a large number of Thai people hate (or just
> dislike) Indians. I have heard this from my Sri Lankan friend who
> studied in Thailand. He said Thais consider Indians to be darker than
> they are (which may be true) therefore dirty. First I dont know where
> they get this theory that being dark is dirty. The Buddha for whom
> they have numerous temples is Indian, so is he dirty? I don't know if
> its all the Thais or just a few but I consider this a shame on the
> people of Thailand. India has contributed more to Thai culture and
> history than any other nations and yet they consider them as DIRTY!!
> Thats nothing but pure racism and ignorance of ones history. I really
> dont know the reason for this would someone please care to comment.
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I am a Pakistani, it's my humble request to separate us from Indians. We are different in many ways. We have to pray everyday and we wash ourselves every day multiple times. We dont smell like cocroaches and rotten fish like many asian smell like, I wont take names but it is a fact.
Even our darkest person is better in hygene than an indian.
John B.
The major ethnic groups of Pakistan in numerical size include:
Punjabis, Pashtuns, Sindhis, Siddis, Saraikis, Muhajirs, Baloch,
Hindkowans, Chitralis, Gujarati and other smaller groups. Smaller
ethnic groups, such as Kashmiris, Kalash, Burusho, Khowar, Hazara,
Shina, Kalyu and Balti are mainly found in the northern parts of the
country.
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> I have noticed that a large number of Thai people hate (or just
> dislike) Indians. I have heard this from my Sri Lankan friend who
> studied in Thailand. He said Thais consider Indians to be darker than
> they are (which may be true) therefore dirty. First I dont know where
> they get this theory that being dark is dirty. The Buddha for whom
> they have numerous temples is Indian, so is he dirty? I don't know if
> its all the Thais or just a few but I consider this a shame on the
> people of Thailand. India has contributed more to Thai culture and
> history than any other nations and yet they consider them as DIRTY!!
> Thats nothing but pure racism and ignorance of ones history. I really
> dont know the reason for this would someone please care to comment.
Read below. This blog was sheared in a biggest thai ewebboard and many Thai commented about that, also state why they don't like Indian tourists. Ctrl+F for what Mr. Gautham said. He is 10000 percent right of why Thai don't like Indian according to that Thai thread. Of cause if you are not one of them, if you are like Mr.Gautham, Thai would always welcome you.
https://mathangijeypal.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/i-hate-bangkok-its-racist/
Problem is that, from with my experience, very few act as Mr.Gautham did.
BTW what you try to said about being contribute to Thailand does not help. In fact what you do makes it worse. Good deed need not to be told. As soon as it told, it's not good anymore. Not to say that being good just once does not mean you can do anything bad forever. Good is good and bad is bad. It's not the accounting which can subtract from another. Actually it's really simple to see. It's called conscience-to know what it's right or wrong with yourself-that i don't know why you don't understand it.
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>Ok, here is it... Iam an Indian a warm blooded brown skinner dark hair with big eyes. You think you guys are so freaking great that you can snob on us, like the white folks. Well lemme tell you, you know nothing about us... you dont know how hard we work or how much we struggle. We dont stink but trust me we know how bad white people stink, we have been smelling their shit for the past 200 years. They sucked out our wealth so bad that jumped up jerks like Thailand can make fun of us. We have a culture and its not to slave under white folks. You know what the biggest slap in your rich Thai ass would be if all the Indian companies and honeymooners boycott Thailand as a tourist spot. Then we will see how rich you really feel.
numbers you are the 7th largest group but even worse you are one of
the stingiest countries and don't spend as much as France which is
10th on the list.
Why should Thailand care whether you visit or not when we have the
Chinese who (1) visit in larger numbers then the Indians and (2) spend
more money on a daily basis.
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> "Arun" <arunb...@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
> news:a8c8c6c6.04040...@posting.google.com...
> > dislike) Indians. I have heard this from my Sri Lankan friend who
> > studied in Thailand. He said Thais consider Indians to be darker than
> > they are (which may be true) therefore dirty.
>
> considered dirty, they should bathe when they are out of their community.
>
> If everyone around you stinks, including yourself, who cares. But when
> there are 31 passengers on a bus, let's say, and you are the only
> indian....well, 30 passengers are going to be annoyed by your odor.
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D33
First let me tell you.
...India has contributed more to Thai culture and history than any other nations... >>> Thai's one reason Thai sick of India. Even to day Indian newspapers always mention this issue. The reason we annoy with it is becasue not just you Indian, many culture has influence Thai with the same level with Indian, eg. China (look at that cusine esp. street food), but none mention this on and on and on like Indian. It seems like you have nothiong to connect with other except this one and only point.
Now baclk to the main question: Why Thai don't like India. Please copy and paste the blog below, then Crtl+f and type "Gautham" to search and read his comment.
https://mathangijeypal.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/i-hate-bangkok-its-racist/
Gautham is exactly right. Note that this blog was shared in a biggest Thai webboard years ago. 90 percent of all the comments on the Thai thread said the same thing he did. They also said that people like Mr. Gautham is always welcome.
Respect is a two-ways street sir.
