Laos Prince died in Bangkok
thanitha
OUNKEO-NICHOLAS SOUVANNA PHOUMA, WAS INVOLVED IN A CAR ACCIDENT
SATURDAY MORNING AT 02h00 OCTOBER 26th, 2002.
MIKE MURPHY OF QYXX FRAUD MANAGEMENT HAS CREATED A WEBSITE AS AN
HONOURARY SOURCE OF INSPIRATION FOR OUNGEO.
http://www.ounkeo-nicholas.com
SmokeThis!
better if anyone know. i dont know who he is and how he is related to
lao royal? how long have they been living in thailand?
pizone
My sincere condolence to Chao OUNKEO-NICHOLAS SOUVANNA PHOUMA family.
Thank you, thanitha for sharing this info.
Pizone
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New Laotian
> who is this guy? what is his background, the more information the
> better if anyone know. i dont know who he is and how he is related to
> lao royal? how long have they been living in thailand?
He ain't no prince of Laos. He was the son of the betraitor of the
Vietnamese spy Souvanaphouma. His death worth not even a 1 US dollar
to me. I wish he died long times a go.
I wish those people whose called themselve the ROYAL FAMILY of Laos
dissapear from the face of the earth. If he was a true prince, why
did he tell his brainless father and his unlce(Souvanaphouma ans
Souphanavong, the two crooks), not to give Laos to the useless,
brainless Kaysone, Nouhake, and Khamtay... HUH..
I wish Laos is becoming a tru democratic county (Not King Dom,or Not
LPDR)
Pao
jimsouk
> better if anyone know. i dont know who he is and how he is related to
> lao royal? how long have they been living in thailand?
i felt so sorry about hearing that laos has lost one of the monarchy's
heir.
i know that thailand is very life risking driving harzard's country ;
thai d.o.t.
should improvise the new regulation on how to drive safety and
reinforce the driving law severely.
may buddha rest his soul in peace.
casalao
probably live in bangkok with their mom who is from xiengmay. last
time i saw chapanya was close to 10 years ago in san diego when he
came by to make a bid for the laonok to do investments in laos.
casalao
dougi
Just a brief. Prince Souvana Phoumma was related to our
royal family and a half brother of Souphanouvong,
the red prince who was master-minded by Keo-sone
to over thrown Lao goverment in 75.
I guess prince Souvanna Phoumma's family left Laos
just like any Lao-nork(you and me.) But some of
them remain in Thailand. The first son of prince
Souvanna Phoumma, Chao Panya lives in France, and
last time I saw him was at the friend's wedding
in Connetticut, U.S.A. 1992.
Yes, indeed that is the royal family name.
I feel sorry for him. Rest in peace.
Dougi
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R. Lerner
the photographs of the car, surely the prince wasn't the only one to
have died or been seriously injured. Are the others not worth
mentioning because they weren't "royal"?
Fraidy-Cat
To the family of Souvanna Phouma:
I want to send my deepest sympathy on the death of Prince
Ounkeo-Nicholas Souvanna Phouma. I know that he will be greatly missed
by many, and I join everyone in sharing your grief during this
difficult time.
With sincere sympathy,
Fraidy Cat.
Fraidy-Cat
Dear Dr. Pao,
As an ordinary young man, I realize that many of our friends who still
have hated toward the Souphanouvong and Souvanna Phouma. I respect
them all. Also, I know that many Lao and Hmongs alike suffered from
the two brothers. I also respect them. As a moral human being, I
personally feel that grand child shouldn't have anything to do with
what their parents[?] or grandparents[?] did wrong in the past. I know
it is hard for someone to forgive and to forget but please do try to
forgive the death one. It is hard for any family who had experienced
the tragic loss of a child who knew so little of what had happened in
Laos.
Best regards,
Fraidy Cat, The son of Savannaket.
SmokeThis!
thanks for enlight me on this, i dont even know that they live in
thailand. so all of their family live in thailand, when did they came
over to thailand. i thought that they love communist so much that
they would still be in laos not thailand.
so, most of the rulers of lao pdr most likely are living outside of
lao than. oh, if this is the case that is screw up they live outside
of lao while running lao.
Phetaroi
>From: rusty_...@yahoo.com (R. Lerner)
>Date: 11/18/2002 11:37 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <899e76df.02111...@posting.google.com>
Now come on. News is news, and a highly visible royal dying in a car accident
is news. His driver dying in a car accident is not.
pumakone
What had he done for Laos? >>> My uncle bled and sacrificed his
life[with many others like him] to defend his family's wealth, never
got a thank you note from his father. His funneral was paid by my
father >>> The family didn't recieve compensation[of any kind] And the
coffin was made from discarded timber got from the saw mill which was
owned by a foreigner!
Laos[nation] will never forgive the mistakes his father did during the
King regimes.
Haak pheng
pizone
If your 'they' means royal family members, after the commu took over
laos in 1975, the ones who weren't sent to vienxay and been killed
there, live in many free countries now, not just thailand. As far as i
know they don't run the current commu ldpr from the outside of laos as
you said here
pizone
pizone
whose death worth your $1 US dollar?
who is your prince of laos if there is one in your mind?
your words here sounds like you want to be "Bak Koak NaTho" to me.
the guy (a lao person) died by car accident, if you don't share they
grief, it's ok, but why you want all of them disappear? what kind of
culture you are?
pizone
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pizone
who is your uncle?
what kind of sacrifice he did?
How wealthy the Souvannaphoumy family is or was before 1975? are they
as wealthy as today khamtay, nouhak, kaison family?
just wonder and want to know the facts, nothing else.
pizone
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New Laotian
I want to share my final thought about the death of an individual who
claimed himself to be the PRINCE of SOUVANAPHOUMA. I feel sorry for
him and his family. I am a Laotian and I love Laos. I want Laos to be
the safe place the LAONAI to live for 1000 of year to come.
I hate SOUPHANAVONG AND SOUNANAPHOUMA. I love them as a human being,
but not as leader. The were the two Laotians that burn down the Laos
Flag, give the country to the Vietnamese people. I know like father
like son.
I hope their family learn a big big lesson.
Pao
Sri Sattanakarahut
SmokeThis,
It was chao Souphanouvong who was a communist, and not chao Souvana
Phouma. Prince Souvana Phouma was a neutralist who basically lead the Lao
Royal government from 1960 until the regime was overthrew by his half
brother Red Prince Souphanouvong in 1975. Chao Souvana Phouma didn't
leave Laos, he became advisor of Lao PDR until his death in 1986(?), much
of his family however left Laos and now living in many parts throughout
the world. You can find some of them here in US.
Sri
Sri Sattanakarahut
Perhaps there weren't any "others" involved, and perhaps the "other
party" that involved in the accident were poles and guard rails? But,
then again welcome to Thailand where poor are classed along side with
animal. But, to be fair, here in the US...dog and cat trapped in a tree
will get more publicity than let say a mailman falls off his own truck.
I kid you not.
Sri
Tzexa Lee
During the Souvannaphouma priministership, he said that the Lao people
should eat meat more if the rice gotten more and more expensive. What
a priminister!
Tzexa
Sri Sattanakarahut
The webpage didn't mention the father and mother of Ounkeo-Nicholas
Souvanna Phouma. However, I suspected he was a son of prince Panya and a
grandson of prince Souvanna Phouma. Perhaps, could any one in Thailand
confirm this? One interesting note is that a representative of HRH
Princess Sirindhon was present at the funeral, but none were from the Lao
Royal family (the Soulivong Savang, and the Na Champassak.) Hmmm?
Perhaps story below explains why?
The Chao Vung Lung or princes of back palace of Laos, prince Phetsaraj,
Souvanna Phouma, and Souphanouvong:
Prince Phetsaraj (born January 19, 1890 , Luang Prabang, Laos died 1959 ,
Vientiane.) A Lao nationalist and political leader, who is regarded as
the founder of Lao independence. Prince Phetsarath was the eldest son of
Viceroy Boun Khong of the kingdom of Luang Prabang and the elder brother
to Souvanna Phouma and Souphanouvong. He studied in Saigon and in France,
and on his return to Laos in 1913 he joined the civil service of Luang
Prabang under the French protectorate. By 1919 he had become head of the
indigenous branch of the civil service, and for the next two decades he
worked to unify Laos by creating a bureaucracy that would transcend the
principalities and provinces into which the country had been divided by
the French. In 1941 the French ceded additional provinces (including
Vientiane) to the Luang Prabang kingdom and granted executive powers to a
Lao cabinet in which Viceroy Phetsarath served as premier. The Japanese
soon occupied the country. When the Japanese surrendered at the end of
World War II, Phetsarath sought to prevent the return of the French and
proclaimed the unification of Laos as a single, independent kingdom. When
King Sisavangvong dismissed him from office, he joined the opposition Lao
Issara (Free Laos) government in Vientiane, and, when the French
reoccupied Laos in 1946, he fled to Thailand. Phetsarath took the lead in
forming the Free Laos government-in-exile and became its head in December
1946. As the French began making concessions to Lao nationalism,
Phetsarath's brothers withdrew their support from him and his
government-in-exile. Souphanouvong joined with the Viet Minh to form the
communist Pathet Lao and continue armed opposition, and Souvanna Phouma
decided to cooperate with the French and participate in French-sponsored
Lao governments. Phetsarath refused to return to Laos unless assured that
efforts would be made to end the civil war that had developed between
rightist and leftist factions, but his hopes for such a reconciliation
were dashed soon after his return to Laos in 1956. Phetsarath's
autobiography, Iron Man of Laos, was published in 1978.
Red Prince Souphanouvong (born July 13, 1909, Luang Prabang, Laos--died
Jan. 9, 1995, Laos.) A Lao revolutionary and political leader who fought
against French colonial rule in post-World War II Indochina and then
against the U.S.-backed government of independent Laos, notably as
founder-leader of the procommunist Pathet Lao guerrilla movement. He
eventually served (1975-86) as the first president of the Lao People's
Democratic Republic. Souphanouvong studied civil engineering in France
and returned to Indochina to build roads and bridges for the colonial
administration. He was foreign minister (1947-48) in the Free Lao
government-in-exile, but he broke with it in 1950 to form the
revolutionary Pathet Lao in alliance with Ho Chi Minh's forces in
neighboring Vietnam. Although he joined a short-lived coalition government
(1962-63) with his half brother Prince Souvanna Phouma as prime minister,
Souphanouvong was arrested when the coalition collapsed. He escaped and
resumed the civil war in the north. After the Pathet Lao seized control in
1975, Souphanouvong was named to the largely ceremonial post of president
of Lao People Democratic Republic.
Prince Souvanna Phouma (born Oct. 7, 1901 , Luang Prabang, died Jan. 10,
1984 , Vientiane, Laos.) A premier of Laos known for having sought,
throughout several terms in office, to maintain Laotian neutrality in
Southeast Asian affairs. Souvanna was the nephew of King Sisavangvong of
Laos. He studied architectural engineering in France and then entered the
Public Works Service of French Indochina on returning to his country in
1931. When his uncle welcomed the return of French rule after the defeat
of the Japanese, who had occupied Laos at the end of World War II,
Souvanna and his half brother Souphanouvong joined the Lao Issara (Free
Laos) movement and its provisional Vientiane government (1945–46). When
the French reoccupied Laos, Souvanna fled to exile in Bangkok, but
returned to Laos in 1949 as France began conceding autonomy to Laos. In
1951 he was elected premier and held that office until 1954. He returned
to the premiership in 1956 as the head of a coalition government that
included both rightist representatives and members of the Communist Pathet
Lao, which Souphanouvong headed. The coalition collapsed in 1958, and
civil war broke out between the two groups. Souvanna served briefly as
premier in 1960 and again returned during a brief truce in 1962. During
the 1960s and early 1970s Souvanna struggled to retain a neutral position;
with the proximity of the war in Vietnam, his efforts were in vain, and he
came to depend upon U.S. military assistance. After the United States
began to withdraw from that struggle, however, the Vientiane government
and the Pathet Lao agreed on a cease-fire (February 1973), and in April
1974 a coalition government was formed. Souvanna retained the premiership
until December 1975, when the People's Democratic Republic of Laos was
established. He remained an adviser to the government until his death.
Sri
TheOne
Thank GOD. Thank Theravada Buddha. This should take place more often
for he was useless as a human being anyways as all Laotian officials.
The tissue I use to whipe my A_S_S has more value.
dougi...@yahoo.com
In the old days, there was no such thing as speech contest
or speech writers, and Souvanna Phoumma probably didn't
think much about his words but just don't starv yourself
to death.
Even new leaders today, make mistakes when speaking in public.
Just let them rest in peace, both both grandpa & grandson.
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dougi...@yahoo.com
They didn't like the commu. PERIOD!
The lpdr are still in Laos proctecting it from you and me.
I strongly believe every Lao-nork has a good intention
to help building Laos. But the commu. refuse won't give
peace a chance.
If I have my wish, I would preach the LPDR
"LET'S START IT OVER AGAIN." It's never too late in this case.
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Charlie
family. May Buddha bless his soul and may he join the rest of the
late Royalists to fight against the evil of the LPDR in heaven. May
his spirit watch over our struggle for democracy, peace, and harmony
in Laos.
Charlie
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Fisherman
Sri Sattanakarahut wrote:
>
> Red Prince Souphanouvong (born July 13, 1909, Luang Prabang, Laos--died
> Jan. 9, 1995, Laos.) ...
> ...
> ...e
> ... Although he joined a short-lived coalition government
> (1962-63) with his half brother Prince Souvanna Phouma as prime minister,
> Souphanouvong was arrested when the coalition collapsed. He escaped and
> resumed the civil war in the north. ...
>
> ...
Sabaidee Sri,
I am quite certain that the timing of this portion of the story is
wrong. Yes, the coalition Lao government as a result of the negotiation
between the three factions of Laos headed by the three princes (leftist
Prince Souphanouvong, rightist Prince Boun-Oum, and neutralist Prince
Souvanna Phouma). It was also known as Hinheub - Namon conference of the
three Princes (Sam Sadeth). Souphanouvong was never arrested after this
conference. In fact, technically in the eyes of the world community, the
coalition government had existed until December 1975 because that was
the only government recognized by the world. That explains why there
were Pathet Lao armed forces stationed in Vientiane (near Morning Market
and Lycee Somboun) all those years. Of course, in reality things were
very different.
Souphanouvong was arrested after the first coalition (Lao Hom Lao) of
1957. He escaped long before Kong-Le's coup d'état on September 8, 1960.
Fisherman
Fisherman
Fisherman
pumakone
Never mind my uncle >>> He died nameless.
The Anousavari-Patuxai that was built for his heroic deed >>> Using
drug and corrupted money >>> I wish one day it was bombed out of
existance.
I got used to the overseas organizations that performed the religious
rite for the Sept11 victims >>> They had never orchestrated such rite
for their own kind.
Regauarding the Souvannaphoumy family's wealth >>> I don't know who
they were[are] and I never heard of them.
The soldiers who died defending Laos >>> They defended Laos wealth and
the wealth and lives of the people that live there.
Haak pheng
charlie
however, I doubt that was the son of Chao Souvannaphouma. He looked
so different!
Charlie
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Sri Sattanakarahut
> If this was true, I am sending my condolenses to the prince's family;
> however, I doubt that was the son of Chao Souvannaphouma. He looked
> so different!
He is too young to be Chao Souvanna Phouma's son. Probably a grandson.
Sri
Samakhi Bopenphakniyom
him crazy dog in many place in world. Maybe it is because he is
mongrel race with Frenchness. Next time you go Bangkok break his
human right for me. All the money his papa steal, we want it back
now. They call it the payback time.
Hakpheng