Re: Why many Thais have a long surname
Alex Gitlits
Thanks for this informative and an on-topic post!
Cheers
Alex
pluto < wrote:
> http://www.apmforum.com/columns/thai4.htm
>
> Why many Thais have a long surname
> by Kriengsak Niratpattanasai
>
> Lots of foreigners have asked me about the length of Thais' surnames. For
> example my last name is NI-RAT-PAT-TA-NA-SAI. Perhaps, I should write about
> this matter.
>
> Usually, the native Thai folks, have quite a short surname.. for example -
> BOONMEE, SRISAI, etc. However, most of the people who have the long last
> name are the subsequent generation of Chinese Immigrant. In order to have
> better understanding, let's look back to the society's history.
>
> Many years ago, when China mainland transformed the countries political
> system from a Monarchy to Communist, lots of Chinese left the country
> seeking a new life opportunity. Many of them selected Thailand as their
> destination. They started a new life in the Kingdom with prosperity. They
> still kept their identity by using their Chinese name. Thereafter, their
> kids, the following generation, were born with a Thai Name. However, they
> still used a Chinese last name like Tang, Lim, Ng, etc. They then came to
> realise that it was not localized enough to have a Thai name with a Chinese
> last name. They began to apply for a Thai last name. That is the starting
> point of this story. When you go to apply for Thai last name, the
> regulation for registration of the new last name is as follows:
>
> The applicants submit 5 alternatives to the government officer. Each one
> has a maximum of 10 Thai characters.
> The officer will search in the data base for identical last names. The law
> does allow identical last names to those existing already So hopefully, one
> of your 5 alternatives will be unique and can be used.
> About one month later, you will check with the officer. If there is any
> duplication, you need to create the new one and resubmit it again. If not
> the case, you can use the real NEW last name.
> Since we have a lot of immigrant Chinese, subsequent applicants have to
> create a new name that has a low probability of duplication. Thus, the new
> surnames just get longer and longer.
>
> So next time, if you see Thais who have long surname, you may want to ask
> them whether they are Chinese.
>
>
> Kriengsak Niratpattanasai
> DBS Thai Danu Bank, Bangkok, Thailand
> Kriengsak was one of the Asian Business Strategy & Street Intelligence
> Ezine's earliest columnists and continues to provide some of the most savvy
> advice on the Net on working in Thailand. His down to earth advice from
> years of working with falang and locals mixed with local folkstories
> continues to delight and inform. Click on Kriengsak's picture to learn more
> about our great friend and colleague.
>
> http://huaren.org/diaspora/asia/thailand/doc/0596-01.html
> Assimilation of Thailand's ethnic Chinese
>
> Excerpted from Chinese Around The World, a ministry of CCCOWE.
> May, 1996
>
> Thailand has about 60 million people of whom 1% live in Bangkok, the
> capital of Thailand and ethnic Chinese make up more than 50% of Bangkok's
> population. it is estimated that more than 10 million ethnic Chinese live
> in Thailand, a very high population ratio. Most of them have been
> assimilated; they have Thai nationality. Thai names and speak Thai. They
> also marry Thai people and live among them.
>
> The ethnic Chinese are a minority group in Thailand but most of them are
> middle or upper-class and control much of Thailand's economy. Most of
> Thailand's banks are now in the hands of ethnic Chinese. Some Chinese
> belong to the working-class, their children cannot read Chinese but those
> from rich families can still maintain some Chinese traditions by providing
> a Chinese education for their children, though limited, and by preserving
> their own Chinese names. They have become a new community in Thailand and
> later generations have taken part in politics or served in the army. In
> July 1995 the 21st Prime Minister, was Banharn Silpa-archa. He is not only
> the second ethnic Chinese who was born into a peasant family and rose to
> become Prime Minister but also is the model for Southeast Asian ethnic
> Chinese rich businessmen who take part in politics. His Chinese name is Ma
> Tak Fok.
>
> Chinese organizations which have been formed by Thailand's ethnic Chinese
> number about 400. About a hundred of them are registered in Bangkok. The
> Thailand Chinese General Chamber of Commerce is the highest Chinese
> leadership organization in the Chinese community and is highly respected by
> the government. It always takes part in the resolution of important issues
> involving the Chinese community.
>
> [pluto note:]
> below is a list of the thai chinese names culled from the chinese chamber
> of commerce, Thailand:
> AMORN APITHANAKOON
> AMORN PONGSURAPIPAT
> ANANT ACKPIPATTANA
> ANANT ANANTNAKIN
> APICHART VONGSURAKRAI
> BOONCHAI CHAITEERATH
> BOONLERT CHARTVIVATPORNCHAI
> BOONMEE SUKPRAPRUTI
> BOONSONG SRIFUENGFUNG
> BOONYONG YONGCHALEARNRAT
> CHAIYASIT MANOMAIPHIBUL
> CHALERM SUNANTAKARNKIJ
> CHAROEN POOLWORALAK
> CHAVALIT HIMAKORN
> CHAVALIT TUANGSITTHISOMBAT
> CHAVARIT TANTIVONGSAKIT
> CHAVENG CHINTHAMMITRA
> CHAW NIENNATTRAKUL
> CHIDCHAI CHALONGVIRIYALERD
> CHIM CHAROENKHAJORNKUN
> CHUAN TANGMATITHAM
> DHIRAPHORN SRIFUENGFUNG
> DILOK MAHADUMRONGKUL
> EAKPINYOH PUANGPATHANACHAI
> HUI CHANSAVANGWONK
> JARAN SANGPAIBOON
> JIT TEMCHAROENSUK
> JITTI TANGSITHPAKDI
> KAMPOL SRETHBHAKDI
> KASEM VONGPATARAKUL
> KAVEESAK CHATLEKHAVANICH
> KIAN CHAISUPARAKUL
> KIAT TECHAPONGTADA
> KITTI ITTIPHAKORN
> KITTI KANCHANASEVEE
> KRIANGLIT SUKCHAROENSIN
> KRIS KITTIPANACHOL (YEOH HUAT LAT)
> KUMPOL PINIJSOPHONPUN
> MAITREE TEMSIRIPONG
> MANA POJCHAMANAWONG
> MARLEE TINGTHANATHIKUL
> MONGKOL CHARNPAIBOONRAT
> MONTHIEN LERSTHIENDOMRONG
> MONTREE CHAYAVIVATKUL
> MONTRI KANOKKUL
> MR.SOMCHAI KIATSRICHART
> NARONGSAK PUTTHAPORNMONGKOL
> NAWARAT RUDEEPIPATTANAPONG
> NGOW SHAW-NAM
> NUMSIN LAISATHIT
> PAIBOON KONGPIYACHARN
> PAISARN CHATLEKAVANICH
> PHAIROJ CHIRACHANANON
> PHAO KUKIATINANTA
> PHONGSAK PICHITNAPAKUL
> PHORNCHAI HOPITAKKUL
> PITI MANOMAIPHIBUL
> PIYA SATJAYAKORN
> PRACHAK TANGKARAVAKOON
> PRADIT PRAEWPAIBOON
> PRADITH ARJ-HARNWONGSE
> PRAPAN SANTAYATI (MANAGER)
> PRASARN TANTISRISUK
> PRASERT JITJARUEK
> PRASERT KULSOMPHOB
> PRASIT JIRAPONGTHANAVECH
> PRASONG OWLARN
> PRAVIT CHANTRAPRAPAWAT
> PURE PUSAYAPAIBUL
> SACKCHAI WONGMALASITH
> SAMRAN CHATMONGKOLCHAI
> SANAN ANGUBONKUL
> SANGCHAI SODTIVARAKUL
> SANGUAN CHUENPANICHAYAKUL
> SANGUAN TATIYAKAVEE
> SANTI VAYAKORNVICHITR
> SARAWUTH JINWUTH
> SEREE TANCHOOKIAT
> SERMSRI VORANAVIN
> SOMBAT DACHAVIJIT
> SOMPOB TINGTHANATHIKUL
> SOMSAK ROEMJAREANDEE
> SOMWANG TANGSOMBATVISIT
> SONGSAKDI OWLARN
> SORASIN TRICHAKRAPHOP
> STAPHORN THINVADHANAKUL
> SUCHART SETHIWAN
> SUCHIN CHINTANA
> SUJIN EURBOONYANUN
> SUMETH LERTSUMITKUL
> SUMIT LERTSUMITKUL
> SUNSURN JURANGKOOL
> SUPHOD NGAOTHONGPAITHOON
> SUTHEE MINCHAINUN
> SUTHEP BENJABHOKI
> SUTHICHAI CHINTANA
> SUVIMOL MAHAGITSIRI
> SUVIT VIVATTANAKAJORNSUK
> SUWAN PORNKARNCHANANUN
> SUWAN TANTISIRIWAT
> SUWAT SAWATYANON
> TAWAT TAWORNTAWAT
> THANA SENAVATTANAGUL
> THANET JINDACHOTSIRI
> THEERAPHON PORNCHOTTHAWEERAT
> TIENMEK JARASJANYAWAT
> VEERASAKDI RATANARUANGRAI
> VIBUL KITNUNTAVIWAT
> VICHAI BOONPARADORN
> VICHAI KANCHANASEVEE
> VICHAI SAWATYANON
> VICHAI VICHAIWATANAPANICH
> VICHAI VIRAIVITAYAKUL
> VICHARN KOOPTHANAROJ
> VICHIEN JIRAPOJCHAPHORN
> VICHIT LOLURLERT
> VISITH LEELASITHORN
> VORASIT TALOMSIN
> WORAWIT WEERABORWORNPONG
> YONG SUKSUDPRASERT
> YUNYONG PATHOMSAK
>
> Huaren Note:
> The following article attempts to stress the role of Islam conversion on
> the negative positions of ethnic Chinese in Indonesia. We feel that some of
> the statements made were too superficial. For example, Islam doctrines do
> stress tolerance and acceptance; then why there were riots against the
> ethnic Chinese? One obvious reason is that most of those rioters are not
> followers of the Islam doctrines. When the country is in a horrible
> economic state, some people will act out their anger on defenseless
> scapegoats, regardless whether religious conversion had effected or not.
>
> http://huaren.org/diaspora/asia/thailand/doc/031899-01.html
> Straits Times
> March 18 1999
> Role of religion in ethnic integration
>
> By FELIX SOH IN BANGKOK
>
> RELIGION is a unifying force in one South-east Asian country but it is the
> root of deep cleavages in another.
>
> While Buddhism allows for the seamless assimilation of ethnic Chinese into
> Thai society, in Indonesia, the community's different religious orientation
> from the Muslim majority has made them victims of attacks there.
>
> Coincidentally, both Thailand and Indonesia have ethnic Chinese communities
> of six million people. The commonly-held view is that economics and race
> are the key factors behind the violence against the ethnic Chinese in
> Indonesia.
>
> Not so, said Professor Umphon Phanachet, director of the Chinese Studies
> Centre at Chulalongkorn University, who is himself of ethnic Chinese
> descent.
>
> "Religion is the primary impulse behind the attacks," he said, rejecting
> the thesis that the mob violence is a reflection of resentment over Chinese
> domination of commerce and trade.
>
> He pointed out that the ethnic Chinese are Indonesians in all respects --
> except for their religion, which is either Buddhism or Christianity.
>
> "They have been in the country for centuries, they have integrated into
> Indonesian society," said Prof Umphon in an interview with The Straits
> Times."Their language is Bahasa Indonesia and even their names are
> Indonesian." Yet, they were still not accepted as Indonesians. Unless they
> underwent conversion to Islam, which is unlikely to happen on a large-scale
> basis, they would never be entirely accepted by the Muslim majority.
>
> Touching on Thailand's experience, he said the fact that both ethnic
> Chinese and the Thais embraced one religion, Buddhism, made the process of
> assimilation so much easier and trouble-free.
>
> There was common ground and a common denominator for integration. The
> tolerant nature of Buddhist precepts is also important. For one thing, it
> encouraged intermarriage, a key factor for assimilation, by not making
> conversion upon marriage mandatory. In contrast, in Indonesia's case, Islam
> requires conversion, something which discourages intermarriages.
>
> The situation was different in Thailand. Prof Umphon noted that ethnic
> Chinese men were, in fact, in great demand as husbands. They were much
> sought after by Thai women because they had a reputation for being
> hardworking and good family providers.
>
> Another South-east Asian country in which the ethnic Chinese community
> has"melted" into the indigenous society is the Philippines. There, the
> Chinese have adopted Christianity and Filipino culture, although many still
> retain their traditions and surnames.
>
> But the history of their absorption into society is not all painless. In
> the days when the Spaniards were the colonial masters, they were
> persecuted. "Ethnic Chinese were massacred in the tens of thousands by the
> Spanish in periodic waves because the colonialists feared their rising
> commercial strength," said Prof Umphon.
>
> All said, the assimilation of ethnic Chinese in Thailand is probably the
> most successful in the region. Indeed, they have come a long way since the
> first migrants from China arrived in the 17th century. And not just as
> businessmen. Apparently, they have a penchant for politics, too. The
> highest-ranking public official in the kingdom, Prime Minister Chuan
> Leekpai, is of Chinese ancestry. So are two-thirds of the members of the
> Thai Parliament.
Alex Gitlits
the origin of names of the format "Name Na name of a city", e.g.
Sithiporn Na Songkla. I know they are somehow related to the royal
family but how and are these names strictly for the 'pure' Thai?
Thanks
Alex
pluto < wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 22:05:31 +1000, Alex Gitlits
> <alexg...@nospamoptushome.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>Pluto,
>>
>>Thanks for this informative and an on-topic post!
>>Cheers
>>Alex
>>
>
> You are most welcome Alex,
> just simple copy and paste to answer "news.verizon.net" tough questions:-))
>
> actually the title of my post should be
>
> " Why many Thai Chinese have a long surname"
> so this answers david's question on
>
>
>>How does one discern a Bkk Thai, Isaan Lao Hill Tribe Thai Muslim or
>>Thai-Chinese based on firstl name or last name?
>
>
> the thai-chinese part
>
> Khun Chabon has expertly answered the thai muslim part
>
> i am still bashing around for the thai isaan names
>
> "news.verizon.net" <davi...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:a3NOc.232$Sn.102@trndny04...
>
>>Pardon my ignorance.:
>>I understand that while people born in LOS are Thai citizens they have a
>>few
>>different ethnic groups about.
>>
>>If you are an expat living in LOS and not a googler please tel me the
>>following:
>>How does one discern a Bkk Thai, Isaan Lao Hill Tribe Thai Muslim or
>>Thai-Chinese based on firstl name or last name?
The Prophet
these names are given by the King. My wifes family is of older chinese
origin but were given a family name by the then King. Chinese Thai
tend to have longer names that Thai Thai, eg: Thai Khawching, Chinese
Thai Shinawatara
JC and the girls
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 18:30:04 +1000, Alex Gitlits
<alexg...@nospamoptushome.com.au> wrote:
All good boys go to heaven! all bad boys go to Pattaya
The Prophet
One day we will be able to get back to what it was, some of
the people spoiling this NG seemed to have moved on, others seem to be
getting a little bored, less people are feeding the troll, they are
feeding themselves. But we still have the dim, the daft and the
stupid, unfortunately many, not all come from the Americas.
JC and the girls
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:07:10 +0700, Lurker <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 15:07:35 +0800, pluto <<pl...@yahoo.com.sg>> wrote:
>
>>
>>Why many Thais have a long surname
>>by Kriengsak Niratpattanasai
>>
>>Lots of foreigners have asked me about the length of Thais' surnames. For
>>example my last name is NI-RAT-PAT-TA-NA-SAI. Perhaps, I should write about
>>this matter.
>
>Thanks for this very informative post. Wish we had more good stuff like
>this on the forum.
Johpa Deumlaokeng
>Speaking of names. Do you (or anyone else for that matter) know about
>the origin of names of the format "Name Na name of a city", e.g.
>Sithiporn Na Songkla. I know they are somehow related to the royal
>family but how and are these names strictly for the 'pure' Thai?
The former ruling families, the Princes, of the old Muangs and Wiangs (larger
towns and cities) were given the formal last names associated with the town
with the prefix "Na." There was recently a discussion on another forum trying
to derive the root of the word "Na" but no definitive answer was provided.
Rest assured that when you meet people with such family names that they are
ethnic Thai families; that they are, how shall we say, "old money" or high
"sakdina" families; and that they are not directly related to the Royal family
(like Mom Luangs) although they still are considered to be local aristocracy.
Happy Trails
Johpa
Tchiowa
> On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:07:10 +0700, Lurker <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 15:07:35 +0800, pluto <<pl...@yahoo.com.sg>> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Why many Thais have a long surname
> >>by Kriengsak Niratpattanasai
> >>
> >>Lots of foreigners have asked me about the length of Thais' surnames. For
> >>example my last name is NI-RAT-PAT-TA-NA-SAI. Perhaps, I should write about
> >>this matter.
> >
> >Thanks for this very informative post. Wish we had more good stuff like
> >this on the forum.
>
>
> you are most welcome
>
> simple copy and paste
>
> now i am digging in for thai isaan distinctive names
>
> Chabon has written about thai muslim names
Also keep in mind that a large percentage of Thai last names are
"invented". By that I mean up until sometime around the 1930s, many
(most?) Thai didn't have surnames. (That's why "Khun" always precedes
the first name.) In the 1930s all Thai were required to select a
surname and many families got "inventive".
Loafer
wrote:
>
>Also keep in mind that a large percentage of Thai last names are
>"invented". By that I mean up until sometime around the 1930s, many
>(most?) Thai didn't have surnames. (That's why "Khun" always precedes
>the first name.) In the 1930s all Thai were required to select a
>surname and many families got "inventive".
I originally read someplace that it was directed in 1913 by King
Rama V. More recently I read someplace that it was in 1916,
directed by King Rama VI. Can't recall where I saw either
version, but I do recall that in both versions there was a
comment that a list of approved surnames was published at the
time for people to select from, and that in other cases residents
of a village might all sit down together and discuss what names
they would choose. Of course, many people (in the noble class)
petitioned the King to choose a surname for them. (Much?) later,
more complicated rules were established for people (mostly
Chinese) who wanted to adopt Thai surnames; one requirement was
that the name must be unique, which was *not* a requirement when
the people were first required to adopt surnames.
--
Roger
Alex Gitlits
Thanks, Jopha.
Alex
Tchiowa
> On 2 Aug 2004 11:10:24 -0700, tchi...@hotmail.com (Tchiowa)
> wrote:
> >
> >Also keep in mind that a large percentage of Thai last names are
> >"invented". By that I mean up until sometime around the 1930s, many
> >(most?) Thai didn't have surnames. (That's why "Khun" always precedes
> >the first name.) In the 1930s all Thai were required to select a
> >surname and many families got "inventive".
>
> I originally read someplace that it was directed in 1913
I never was very good with dates. :-)
> by King
> Rama V. More recently I read someplace that it was in 1916,
> directed by King Rama VI. Can't recall where I saw either
> version, but I do recall that in both versions there was a
> comment that a list of approved surnames was published at the
> time for people to select from, and that in other cases residents
> of a village might all sit down together and discuss what names
> they would choose. Of course, many people (in the noble class)
> petitioned the King to choose a surname for them. (Much?) later,
> more complicated rules were established for people (mostly
> Chinese) who wanted to adopt Thai surnames; one requirement was
> that the name must be unique, which was *not* a requirement when
> the people were first required to adopt surnames.
My mother-in-law's family ended up with their birthplace as a last name.
Tim
<purg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Roger,
>
> One day we will be able to get back to what it was, some of
>the people spoiling this NG seemed to have moved on, others seem to be
>getting a little bored, less people are feeding the troll, they are
>feeding themselves. But we still have the dim, the daft and the
>stupid, unfortunately many, not all come from the Americas.
>
>JC and the girls
>
>
>
>All good boys go to heaven! all bad boys go to Pattaya
If you want to separate the trolls and idiots here into a certain
demographic, I think you will find that they are mostly Pataya fans,
regardless of their country of origin. :-)
Tim
I wish I didn't know now
what I didn't know then.
Munto
> wrote:
> >
> >Also keep in mind that a large percentage of Thai last names are
> >"invented". By that I mean up until sometime around the 1930s, many
> >(most?) Thai didn't have surnames. (That's why "Khun" always precedes
> >the first name.) In the 1930s all Thai were required to select a
> >surname and many families got "inventive".
>
> I originally read someplace that it was directed in 1913 by King
> Rama V. More recently I read someplace that it was in 1916,
> directed by King Rama VI. Can't recall where I saw either
> version,
King's signature, he wrote our names in English !!!! Some surnames HRH
gave were so uniquely spelt; ie. Guna-Tilaka (came from Sri Lanka) is
read Koonadilok...oh dear, just got stuck....I did remember more a few
minutes ago...the eagerness must have clouded over my brain's grand
canyon!
CHeeRS,
Munto
>but I do recall that in both versions there was a
> comment that a list of approved surnames was published at the
> time for people to select from, and that in other cases residents
> of a village might all sit down together and discuss what names
> they would choose. Of course, many people (in the noble class)
:-))))))
Torben Larsen
wrote:
>now i am digging in for thai isaan distinctive names
>
>Chabon has written about thai muslim names
>
Khun Pluto here are some Thai nicknames
Ae A
Air Air, as in fresh air!
Am ‘Am’ as in 1st person of verb ‘to be’
Angun Grape
Ann Girl's name
Aon Fat
Aoy Sugar cane
Aw Exclamation of surprise !
Baby A very young child
Bee B
Bell Bell
Benja Five
Bin A container you put rubbish in
Bo
Boat Something in which people can travel across water
Boo Exclamation of surprise!
Bun Apple
C C
Chai Man
Chong (Banchong) Space
Chote Bright
Cookie A sweet biscuit
Dam Black
Dao Star
Dear Dear
Em M
Eed Little, small
Far A long distance away
Gob
Goi
Gouay Banana
Jew Tiny
Jiew
Joy Happiness
Jub Shell
Kaew
Kai Chicken
Kag Indian foreigner, or guest
Kayson Stamen - male part of a flower
Keo Crystal
Kik
Kong Box
Kook Noise of a chicken
Koy Little or small
Kratai Rabbit
Kung Shrimp
Lek Youngest, small
Lux Name of a soap brand?
M Thirteenth letter of Roman alphabet
Mam White lady, like a foreigner
Man Adult male human being
Maew Cat
May Fifth month of international calendar
Mee Teddy bear
Meow Sound of a cat
Moo Pig
Mu Pig
Mui A small inedible Thai forest fruit
Namfon Waterfall
Namtip
Nan Informal word for grandmother
Nat (Natkanda) Wisdom (lady of wisdom)
Net A kind of cloth with small spaces between the fine threads
New Fresh
Nim Soft
Ning
Noi A little
Nok Bird
Non
Not A word that gives an opposite meaning to another word
Nu Mouse
Nui
Numtal Sugar
O Fifteenth letter of the Roman alphabet
Oak Oak
Oat Oat
Oil Sugar cane
Ong A little jar
Onn Woman, girl
Op Sound of a fox
Ord Sound of the doorbell
Oy Sound of hurt surprise!
Paeng Powder
Pakboung
Pam A girl’s name
Pen Moon
Pepsi A well-known soft drink
Pia Plait
Pink Pink
Pom Fat
Pong Generation, thumb
Poo Crab
Pood Voice of train
Pui, Puy, or Pu Fat baby
Rat Crystal
Sea Large area of salt water
Sigh Let out a deep breath to express a feeling
Sintau Lion
Son Boy child of father and mother
Suda Girl
Tan Brown
Tai Rabbit
Tao Turtle
Tep
Tew Tiny
Tin A metal alloy made of brass and zinc
Tip A gift from heaven
Tiew Cute
Tok A kind of hen
Tom A boy's name
Turee
Ung Frog, or a kind of amphibian
Wit (Wijitra) Science (elegant, beautiful)
Wut Growth, or civilisation
Yai Eldest, big
Yar Promise
Yee Name of a Thai fruit from the south
Regards
Torben
I wish I was what I was when I wished what I was was what I am.
Torben Larsen
>
>Also keep in mind that a large percentage of Thai last names are
>"invented". By that I mean up until sometime around the 1930s, many
>(most?) Thai didn't have surnames. (That's why "Khun" always precedes
>the first name.) In the 1930s all Thai were required to select a
>surname and many families got "inventive".
Khun is a polite word like Mr. and Mr. or Mrs. always precedes the
name
pluto
aaaaaaaaaaaah thanks Khun Torben for the thai nicknames
you are now in Valby as you IP says, and not in Kobenhavn?
i miss Heleroid and U of Copenhagen very much -- and that was 30 years ago
;-(((
i used to listen to Karl Nielsen's pieces then
is he still alive?
and not burried together with the "unknown soldier" ;-))
what somebody in this group wants is
>> thai isaan distinctive names
i am sure, you have them
would you help please?
dooshen taak
regards.
pluto
Julie Samolean
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4. block all messages with "OT" or "off topic" in subject header
5. block all messages with "whore" "bar girl" "bar-girl" "Nana" "Patpong" "Pattaya" "prostitute" in subject header
6. block all messages with "troll" in subject header
7. each time you go on notice threads with many posts that are a waste of your time and figure out what to use for blocking such
in future before deleting the
messages
pluto
wrote:
Miss Julie of Toronto?
your X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 format is set
longer than 75 lines
hence we poor fellas have to scroll to the right of every long sentence
;-))
hope you are not offended by this information
i am happy too that the great dane, Khun Torben has come out of den ;-))
did you see my reply to him?
i cant read mine in FA though it appeared but not readable.
regards.
pluto
John Sharman
wrote:
>What a pleasure to see a post from Torben Larsen again !
>Dare one to hope that real content may appear again ?
[..]
>p.s. suggestions for how to make this news-group slightly more
>readable : (your browser's method for letting you block based on
>subject, sender, content, etc. will vary)
Trouble is that most common readers (those running over Windows
variants, anyway) are pretty limited in their ability to filter out
the most noxious trolls.
For those contributors and lurkers who take any NNTP feed and prefer
to avoid involuntary immersion in sewage, the venerable NFilter (aka
NewsProxy, in a slightly different guise) is still available at:
<http://www.netaxs.com/home/v/nfilter/>
It takes a few minutes to set up, but the positive dividend is
*enormous*.
> 1. view all messages by 'from
>
> 2. look at posts by the most frequent posters : sample the most frequent twenty or so posters and block sender(s) to taste
>
> 3. block all messages with word "kramer" in subject header
>
> 4. block all messages with "OT" or "off topic" in subject header
>
> 5. block all messages with "whore" "bar girl" "bar-girl" "Nana" "Patpong" "Pattaya" "prostitute" in subject header
>
> 6. block all messages with "troll" in subject header
>
> 7. each time you go on notice threads with many posts that are a waste of your time and figure out what to use for blocking such
>in future before deleting the
> messages
With NFilter you can do all of that and can indeed write exclusion
rules based on the content of *any* header.
Thus, for example I no longer see the rubbish that comes through
anonymous remailers. Nothing gets through from the Singapore servers,
except Trond, who is white-listed.
It makes SCT quite bearable ... and *a lot* smaller :-)
--
Regards,
John Sharman
<jay...@despammed.com>
Torben Larsen
>aaaaaaaaaaaah thanks Khun Torben for the thai nicknames
>
>you are now in Valby as you IP says, and not in Kobenhavn?
>
I changed IP provider and Valby is a part of Copenhagen
>i used to listen to Karl Nielsen's pieces then
>
>is he still alive?
No, he is dead a long time ago..
>what somebody in this group wants is
>>> thai isaan distinctive names
Yeah, let us find some charateristic Esan names-...
pluto
thanks khun Torben,
for the information
thanks also for your ongoing search for distinctive Esan names,
regards.
pluto