(OT) Madrid, now what will they say?
Tchiowa
bombings were all a result of George Bush are still reverberating. It
was all because Aznar backed Bush. If it hadn't have been for that,
the bombings wouldn't have happened.
Oooops.
The terrorists won, Aznar was kicked out of office. The new
administration says they will pull the Spanish troops out of Iraq.
And another bomb is planted on a Spanish railway, apparently by the
same group. Now what will they say?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/04/02/spain.bombings/index.html
A bomb found under high-speed rail tracks in Spain appears to be made
of the same explosives used in last month's deadly Madrid train
attacks, Interior Minister Angel Acebes said.
Gentlemen, start your spinning. Blame it on Bush. Come on, you can do
it!!!!
Carlos
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> The echoes of the Lie-berals screaming all about how the Madrid train
> bombings were all a result of George Bush are still reverberating. It
> was all because Aznar backed Bush. If it hadn't have been for that,
> the bombings wouldn't have happened.
>
> Oooops.
Oooops?
You are talking bullshit.
Nobody of the Spanish people is saying that the Madrid bombings is a result of George
Bush.
And the 95% of the Spanish people was against joining your cowboy in his crusade logn
before the bombings.
Aznar should have been losten to the "vox populae"
> The terrorists won, Aznar was kicked out of office. The new
> administration says they will pull the Spanish troops out of Iraq.
What are you bullshitting?
Aznar was winning the elections, and could have won them.
But he misleaded the Spanish people about the truth behind the bombings.
Instead of telling the Spanish people the truth about the people behind the bombings,
he choossed to blame the ETA for it.
Everybody was convinced from the start that the ETA had nothing to do with the
bombings.
Aznar was kicked-out the office in a fair elections (not like your cowboy president),
so get over it.
The Spanish people won, the terrorist has nothing to do with it.
That the Spanish troops will be pulled out of Iraq and leave you and your cowboy with
the mess you've created was a leading point of the oppisition.
If Aznar dind't lied about the true terrorist, he would still be in the office.
> And another bomb is planted on a Spanish railway, apparently by the
> same group. Now what will they say?
Spain, or better Aznar, choossed to send troops to Iraq, and to "occupy Arabic soil"
as you say yuorself.
It turned out to be a disaster and will remain a disaster for many years to come.
So what do you expect now?
That all the people in Iraq and all the Arab people will get on their knees and say
"thank you for the mess you have created"?
As long as Spanish soldiers remain on Arab soil, Spain will remain a target.
And it will remain a question if the arab people will ever forgive Spain for having
joined your cowboy president in his crusade and made such a mess.
> http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/04/02/spain.bombings/index.html
>
> A bomb found under high-speed rail tracks in Spain appears to be made
> of the same explosives used in last month's deadly Madrid train
> attacks, Interior Minister Angel Acebes said.
>
> Gentlemen, start your spinning. Blame it on Bush. Come on, you can do
> it!!!!
Yes, we can be far more senseful as you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why don't you shut up your bullshit about your cowboy president and do something
constructive for a change?
When will we see a post from you about Thailand or related to this NG (the go-go bars
is accepted as an on-topic post)?
Is this all you can do with your high-paid time?
I have lost a relative in the Madrid bombings, and my country will never be the same
anymore since Aznar choossed to back-up Bush and lie to his people.
And all of the sudden you seem to be an expert on Spanish matters.
The posters in this NG are right.
You deserve to be kill filed by every one of them.
Go back to your whore in Chayaphum and your old man on his ruste bike.
You deserve your murderish family who choossed to let the mother die instead of
bringing her to a hospital.
You are a criminal too.
Why don't you try to commit suicide for a change?
You haven't the guts for it?
Well, in that case you can ask help in this NG.
I am sure that a lot of posters will be happy to help you commit suicide.
TWATT
P L O N K ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Carlos
Tuuk
terrorism and hatred and killing around the world? See, everyone says they
are against Alquada and their killing for religious reasons, killing
Christians or other nationalities. You have a better way of putting a stop
to this mass killing of innocent people? At least the U.S. is doing
something about it and paying for it themselves. They are doing the world a
favor and you few people dont see it. You think if Kerry wins this election
(god forbid) that he will stop the U.S. lead campaign against terrorism
globally? Answer that question, and answer how the world can rid the world
of terrorism so the rest of the world can live in peace like the countries I
have grown up in. Your right, I have never seen what is like on the other
side, but those people have never seen what it is like on this side. If they
want to live like that, that is their business, but if they want to destroy
the way I live, that is different. I demand that the U.S. continue this
campaign to rid the world of these killers and finish their plan (because no
one else has a plan).....
Whats yours by the way there Carlos? You have a better plan?
"Carlos" <a_trivino...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Charley Brown and Almighty Snoopy
misunderstood people.
If we just had more tolerance, diversity and programs to help them the world
will be a better place.
Lets all sit around, denounce Bush and sing "kumbaya".
"Tchiowa" <tchi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Vagabond
> The echoes of the Lie-berals screaming all about how the Madrid train
> bombings were all a result of George Bush are still reverberating. It
> was all because Aznar backed Bush. If it hadn't have been for that,
> the bombings wouldn't have happened.
> Oooops.
> The terrorists won, Aznar was kicked out of office. The new
> administration says they will pull the Spanish troops out of Iraq.
Democracy won. 85-90% of the people didn't want to be part of the
so-called post-war war in Iraq, and the new government will do as the
people wish.
> And another bomb is planted on a Spanish railway, apparently by the
> same group. Now what will they say?
I will say that you criticized me for supposedly not caring about the
victims of terror, only using bad news to score a political point. But I
never posted bad news with such glee as you do now.
> A bomb found under high-speed rail tracks in Spain appears to be made
> of the same explosives used in last month's deadly Madrid train
> attacks, Interior Minister Angel Acebes said.
> Gentlemen, start your spinning. Blame it on Bush. Come on, you can do
> it!!!!
As before you argue against a position you opponents in the debate
didn't take, but which you prefer to argue against because it is easier
for you. Nobody said EVERYTHING in the world is Bush' fault. Only you
say that when you want to use irony.
Blaming Bush isn't a question of all or nothing, of Bush being 100% to
blame or not at all. It is a question of the black sheep of the Bush
family contributing to a bad outcome, such as the Madrid bombing, by
doing stupid things. Which he is prone to do since he IS stupid. Of
course the terrorists are to blame for the terror acts as such. Not
Bush. Bush is to blame for mishandling his "war on terror" and making
things worse than the needed to be by getting himself (and Spain) into
this quagmire called Iraq.
It looks likely that Bush' invasion of Iraq was part of the motivation
for the Madrid bombing. If so, once your Texas village idiot has
inspired Muslims to create a terror organisation in Spain, why should
they stop after the first "success"? If Bush is (partly or wholly) to
blame for the first bomb, he can be (partly or wholly) to blame for the
second one too. Why should the promise to pull out of Iraq make the
terrorists give up if they have the people, the money and the expertise
to make more trouble? Spanish troops are still in Iraq. Spain is still a
Western country and on the enemy list of the Islamists. Sure the
terrorist can come up with excuses for more bombs (if excuses are needed
at all in that business).
Finally: Even as Bush and his foolishness in Iraq helped inspire the
Islamist terrorists in Spain, this monster, once born, can start living
a life of its own. It need not stick to its original purpose. You should
know that. Another famous monster, the one the CIA created, trained and
paid for in Afghanistan in the 1980-ies, now lives on as Al Qaida.
Vagabond
Tuuk
> so-called post-war war in Iraq, and the new government will do as the
Hmmmm,,,, Are you making this figure up? Last I heard it was around 65 - 70
% of those in any particular country that are in favor of the U.S. lead
coalition to liberate Iraq. What ever the number, one thing is sure that the
Majority of the global population is in favor of what is going on. Also when
you make things up like the ""so-called post-war war in Iraq""" it makes you
sound like you don't know what your talking about. Stick to the cutting and
pasting, makes you look smarter.
No comment on the rest of our post, if it is anything like the first
paragraph, its not much worth reading.
"Vagabond" <reto...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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cath402
"Tchiowa" <tchi...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
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Well, there is a story of bombs on the whole French railway. The police and
the army have been looking unsuccessfully everywhere ... The government
wonders if it is a bad joke or if it is for real because the so-called
terrorists have send letters (through ads in a daily paper) saying they were
temporarily stopping their attacks because of problems of material !!!!!
Tchiowa
> > The echoes of the Lie-berals screaming all about how the Madrid train
> > bombings were all a result of George Bush are still reverberating. It
> > was all because Aznar backed Bush. If it hadn't have been for that,
> > the bombings wouldn't have happened.
> > Oooops.
> > The terrorists won, Aznar was kicked out of office. The new
> > administration says they will pull the Spanish troops out of Iraq.
>
> Democracy won. 85-90% of the people didn't want to be part of the
> so-called post-war war in Iraq, and the new government will do as the
> people wish.
The people were supporting Aznar (according to the polls) until the
bombings. Terrorists won.
> > And another bomb is planted on a Spanish railway, apparently by the
> > same group. Now what will they say?
>
> I will say that you criticized me for supposedly not caring about the
> victims of terror, only using bad news to score a political point. But I
> never posted bad news with such glee as you do now.
What glee? The fact that the evidence now speaks very loudly against
your position on what happened seems to bother you.
> > A bomb found under high-speed rail tracks in Spain appears to be made
> > of the same explosives used in last month's deadly Madrid train
> > attacks, Interior Minister Angel Acebes said.
> > Gentlemen, start your spinning. Blame it on Bush. Come on, you can do
> > it!!!!
>
> As before you argue against a position you opponents in the debate
> didn't take, but which you prefer to argue against because it is easier
> for you. Nobody said EVERYTHING in the world is Bush' fault. Only you
> say that when you want to use irony.
You and others said that the bombing in Madrid was a result of Spain's
support for the invasion of Iraq and thus Bush's fault. Now that
assumption doesn't stand up too well.
> Blaming Bush isn't a question of all or nothing, of Bush being 100% to
> blame or not at all. It is a question of the black sheep of the Bush
> family contributing to a bad outcome, such as the Madrid bombing,
See? Again, you still won't let go of that. If the bombing was a
result of Bush's actions then why did the same group set bombs in
Morocco? Why are they still (apparently) setting bombs in Spain? You
logic has failed, yet you cling to a hopeless cause simply because of
your dislike of Bush.
> It looks likely that Bush' invasion of Iraq was part of the motivation
> for the Madrid bombing.
See? Again you blame Bush. And again, your logic fails because of the
other attacks. If this group is acting because of what Bush did then
they would not have attacked Morocco and they would not still be
attacking Spain.
> If so, once your Texas village idiot has
> inspired Muslims to create a terror organisation in Spain, why should
> they stop after the first "success"?
Again, they attacked Morocco long before this. You need to stop the
knee-jerk "I hate Bush" response and start facing the real world.
> If Bush is (partly or wholly) to
> blame for the first bomb, he can be (partly or wholly) to blame for the
> second one too.
If you were to blame for the first bomb then ...... Ooops, stop there.
You're not to blame. And neither is Bush.
> Why should the promise to pull out of Iraq make the
> terrorists give up if they have the people, the money and the expertise
> to make more trouble?
If the reason was the troops in Iraq, then that is why they should
stop. The fact that continue helps prove your original assumption
wrong.
> Spanish troops are still in Iraq.
On their way out, according to the Spanish government.
> Spain is still a Western country and on the enemy list of the Islamists.
And that is Bush's fault???????
> Sure the
> terrorist can come up with excuses for more bombs (if excuses are needed
> at all in that business).
FINALLY!!!! You are beginning to realize that Iraq, Israel, Saudi,
etc. are all *EXCUSES*, not reasons.
> Finally: Even as Bush and his foolishness in Iraq helped inspire the
> Islamist terrorists in Spain, this monster, once born, can start living
> a life of its own. It need not stick to its original purpose. You should
> know that. Another famous monster, the one the CIA created, trained and
> paid for in Afghanistan in the 1980-ies, now lives on as Al Qaida.
One more piece of uninformed nonsense. Osama was not created by the
CIA. The CIA gave very little support to the organizations he was with
and none to Al Qaeda.
Carlos
>Vagabond <reto...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<retoricus-73684...@news.loxinfo.co.th>...
>> tchi...@hotmail.com (Tchiowa) wrote in message news
>> > The echoes of the Lie-berals screaming all about how the Madrid train
>> > bombings were all a result of George Bush are still reverberating. It
>> > was all because Aznar backed Bush. If it hadn't have been for that,
>> > the bombings wouldn't have happened.
>> > Oooops.
>> > The terrorists won, Aznar was kicked out of office. The new
>> > administration says they will pull the Spanish troops out of Iraq.
>>
>> Democracy won. 85-90% of the people didn't want to be part of the
>> so-called post-war war in Iraq, and the new government will do as the
>> people wish.
>
>The people were supporting Aznar (according to the polls) until the
>bombings. Terrorists won.
Unlike you Americans we do not like our politicians lying to us, he
lied we got rid of him.
Carlos
Carlos
> > The echoes of the Lie-berals screaming all about how the Madrid train
> > bombings were all a result of George Bush are still reverberating. It
> > was all because Aznar backed Bush. If it hadn't have been for that,
> > the bombings wouldn't have happened.
> > Oooops.
> > The terrorists won, Aznar was kicked out of office. The new
> > administration says they will pull the Spanish troops out of Iraq.
>
> Democracy won. 85-90% of the people didn't want to be part of the
> so-called post-war war in Iraq, and the new government will do as the
> people wish.
Vagabond, as you killfiled me you want see this post, but I repeat it once again.
Aznar was a few days before the elections still winning according to the poll's.
It was his policy of misleading the Spanish people about the true terrorists behind
the bombing (muslims) and putting the whole blame on ETA that kicked him out of the
office.
Terrorism has nothing to do with his failure in the elections.
Misleading and lying to his people does.
Fully agree.
Carlos
Charley Brown and Almighty Snoopy
What about your buddies in Spain?
being a coward to these people does not pay.
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Fred Nurk
<snipped so vaggie doesn't have to suffer it>
>
> Vagabond, as you killfiled me you want see this post, but I repeat it once again.
He killfiled you cause you ONLY TALK SHIT. So why post it again?
<also snipped>
You really think people want the read the trash you post eh?
fnurk
Vagabond
"Carlos" <a_trivino...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Vagabond, as you killfiled me you want see this post, but I repeat it once
> again. Aznar was a few days before the elections still winning according to the
> poll's. It was his policy of misleading the Spanish people about the true terrorists
> behind the bombing (muslims) and putting the whole blame on ETA that kicked him out
> of the office.
I never killfiled you, Carlos. I agree that the Anzar government's spin
trying to blame ETA only made things worse.
Vagabond
Carlos
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Well Freddie Kruger,
Obviously people wants to read the trash I post as he replied to my posting.
No go back to your quest for 14 year old girls.
Carlos