va/ba, ca/sa transformations in kannaDa vis-a-vis other dravidian
Suresh Kolichala
it was surprising to find many words which are common between kannaDa
and telugu with the transformation of the letter 'va' to ba. And I guess,
there may be more words common between tamil and kannaDa with this va/ba
transformation.
Actually, this change of va to ba seems to be found even in hindi
and other languages also; For instance, consider the hindi words like
baras (varsha), parbat (parvata), binaa (vinaa) etc.
Okay, here is the list of kannaDa and telugu words, that I can recall,
with the difference of ba/va.
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Kannada telugu English tamil Malayaalam
meaning
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bale vala net
biDu viDu to leave
bEDa vaddu don't want vEnDa
bEku want vEnum(?)
baDagi vaDrangi carpenter
baayi mouth vaaya(?)
bennu vennu back
(of the body)
bEsagi vEsangi summer
vEsavi
beNNe venna butter
biLi veli(1) white
baNNa varNa color
bEga vEga fast pattu
beedi veedhi(2) street
beLLi venDi silver
bele vela price
bareyu vraayu to write
ba ra(3) come! vaa
beLaku velugu light
baaDu vaaDu wither, fade
(vaaDipOvu)
baggu vangu to bend
bage vaga(4) to think
biccu viccu to loosen,
to release
beesu veecu to blow,
to wave
beccage veccaga warm
bEDu vEDu to ask earnestly
bETe vETa hunt
Foot notes:
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1. The common word is for white color in telugu is 'telupu', (tellani as adj)
But, veli is found in commonly used phrases like veli-booDida veli-boodi etc.)
2. should this be veethi?
3. Actual verb for 'come' in telugu is 'vaccu'.
4. I am not sure about the meaning of the word 'vaga' in telugu,
whose usage is not very common in telugu; I heard this word used in
the popular tyAgarAja kRti 'nagumOmu' as '... vaga joopaku ...' .
There is a verb 'vagacu', commonly used in the meaning of 'to worry'.
One quick observation:
While, no sanskrit words starting with 'pa' have been
transformed to 'ha', there are some sanskrit (supposedly:-))
words like vEga, veedhi, varNa which have transformed into
bEga, beedhi and baNNa etc. in kannaDa.
(I may not be correct with some of the kannaDa and tamil words,
corrections are welcome.)
Quickly, let me write down the words with ca/sa transformation also.
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Kannada telugu English tamil Malayaalam
meaning
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seere ceera saree
saavu caavu death
saaku caalu enough
sEru cEru to join
sikku cikku to find, to get-hold-of
sakkare cakkara sugar
and there must be many more !
Anyone with the details of the history of these transformation ?
Kumar Kumarappan
words/transformations has been interesting. I have filled in the Tamil
words, where appropriate. I wish someone fills in the Malayaalam column
for this and the pa-ha transformations. (Manoj - Are you listening ?)
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: Kannada telugu English tamil Malayaalam
: meaning
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: bale vala net valai
: biDu viDu to leave vidu
: bEDa vaddu don't want vEnDaam
: bEku want vEndum
: baDagi vaDrangi carpenter
: baayi mouth vaay
: bennu vennu back
: (of the body)
: bEsagi vEsangi summer
: vEsavi
spring vasantham
: beNNe venna butter veNNai
: biLi veli(1) white veLLai
: baNNa varNa color varNam
: bEga vEga fast vEgam
: beedi veedhi(2) street veethi
: beLLi venDi silver veLLi
: bele vela price vilai
: bareyu vraayu to write
to draw varai
: ba ra(3) come! vaa
: beLaku velugu light viLakku
: baaDu vaaDu wither, fade vaadu
: (vaaDipOvu)
: baggu vangu to bend vaNangu
: bage vaga(4) to think
: biccu viccu to loosen,
: to release vittuvidu
: beesu veecu to blow, veesu
: to wave
: beccage veccaga warm vekkai
: bEDu vEDu to ask earnestlyvEndu
: bETe vETa hunt vEttai
: Foot notes:
: ----------
: 1. The common word is for white color in telugu is 'telupu', (tellani as adj)
: But, veli is found in commonly used phrases like veli-booDida veli-boodi etc.)
: 2. should this be veethi?
: 3. Actual verb for 'come' in telugu is 'vaccu'.
: 4. I am not sure about the meaning of the word 'vaga' in telugu,
: whose usage is not very common in telugu; I heard this word used in
: the popular tyAgarAja kRti 'nagumOmu' as '... vaga joopaku ...' .
: There is a verb 'vagacu', commonly used in the meaning of 'to worry'.
: Quickly, let me write down the words with ca/sa transformation also.
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: Kannada telugu English tamil Malayaalam
: meaning
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: seere ceera saree ceelai (cElai)
: saavu caavu death caavu
: saaku caalu enough
: sEru cEru to join cEru
: sikku cikku to find,
to get-hold-of cikku
: sakkare cakkara sugar cakkarai
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with respect to pa-ha transformation:
hancu pancu to divide pangu
(one's divided share)
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I am a novice to transliteration schemes. I may have been inconsistent.
Welcome any corrections.
N Paramesh, Room 213 boat Ext 3935 Senior Lecturer
> In article <2s5pul$c...@crl.crl.com> kku...@crl.com (Kumar Kumarappan) writes:
>>Thanks to Suresh & Srinivasan, this series on common
>>words/transformations has been interesting. I have filled in the Tamil
>>words, where appropriate. I wish someone fills in the Malayaalam column
>>for this and the pa-ha transformations. (Manoj - Are you listening ?)
CAN SOME ONE FILL IN THE ROOT WORDS?
>>
>>: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>>: Kannada telugu English tamil Malayaalam
>>: meaning
>>: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>>: bale vala net valai vala
>>: biDu viDu to leave vidu vida
>>: bEDa vaddu don't want vEnDaam vendda
>>: bEku want vEndum venam
>>: baDagi vaDrangi carpenter mesthiri
>>: baayi mouth vaay vayae
>>: bennu vennu back
>>: (of the body)
>>: bEsagi vEsangi summer venal
>>: vEsavi
>> spring vasantham vasantham
>>: beNNe venna butter veNNai venna
>>: biLi veli(1) white veLLai vella
>>: baNNa varNa color varNam niram
>>: bEga vEga fast vEgam vegam
>>: beedi veedhi(2) street veethi veethi or vazhi
>>: beLLi venDi silver veLLi velli
>>: bele vela price vilai vila
>>: bareyu vraayu to write ezhuthu (?)
>> to draw varai vara
>>: ba ra(3) come! vaa vaa
>>: beLaku velugu light viLakku vilakku
>>: baaDu vaaDu wither, fade vaadu
>>: (vaaDipOvu)
>>: baggu vangu to bend vaNangu
>>: bage vaga(4) to think chintha