why tamil brahmins support India
anon
This is in response to analyst41 (should change his id to asshole41).
Yes, tamil brahmins do not want TN to secede from India for one and only one reason.
Rest of India (India minus TN ) recognises their talent more than TN. I have seen tam brams
holding top position in Bihar, Maharashtra, Haryana and of course Delhi. Postions like
Bihar Finance Sect, Comm of Police (Mumbai), Comm of Police (Haryana) were all held
by tam brams. Whatever North Indians are, they treat tam brams well if they have talent.
Now in TN it is just not conceivable that a tam bram can get the highest position. there
is a glass ceiling of some sort. The social agenda of TN just does not permit brams to
do well in their career, unless they happen to work in bram controlled pvt companies
like TVS,
anal...@hotmail.com
"anon" <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
>
> This is in response to analyst41 (should change his id to asshole41).
> Yes, tamil brahmins do not want TN to secede from India for one and
only one reason.
> Rest of India (India minus TN ) recognises their talent more than TN.
So you fucking shits GO LIVE where your favorite masters live- the rest
of India !!!!!!
Most of you shits "De-tamilize" immediately once you have reached the
feet of your North Indian masters in Delhi or Bombay - no more
Padmanabhans and Venkatramans - you shits are now calling your devil-
spawn "modern" names like "rohit" or "tarun".
In fact, young Tam Brahm shits in CHENNAI hardly speak Tamil anymore -
admit it - you shits would rather melt into your master race - the
North Indians - TAmil doesn't sit so well with you shits, does it ?
How many of your devil-spawn raised in the north even read or write
Tamil ?
You shits are "defective" or "almost" north indians in your self-
definition who themselves are "defective" or "almost" white people in
THEIR self-defintion - you shits are slaves of slaves.
Did some Hindian shit tell you "you don;t look 'Sow-thin-dian'" ?
Must have made you feel like a million bucks, eh ?
I have seen tam brams
> holding top position in Bihar, Maharashtra, Haryana and of course
Delhi. Postions like
> Bihar Finance Sect, Comm of Police (Mumbai), Comm of Police (Haryana)
were all held
> by tam brams. Whatever North Indians are, they treat tam brams well
if they have talent.
Because you guys are obedient ass-kissing slaves who constitute no
threat to real power. Sure you shits are "good administrators" = you
can look after a North Indian's wealth who makes it thorugh
enterprise,breaking rules, plunder, murder etc. Puny, scared shits
like you will not steal from a North Indian, he'd rather have a Tam
Brahm Eunuch looking after his money than a fellow North Indian thug
who'd have no compunctions in robbing him blind.
>
> Now in TN it is just not conceivable that a tam bram can get the
highest position.
You fucking shits STILL live in TAmil Nadu like an alien occupation
army - going to North Indian and CEntral Government schools to educate
your spawn so that they can get stenographer/computer coolie positions
working for North Indians or going off to amreeka.
YOu shits are a cancer on the body politic of TAmil NAdu - its only a
matter of time before the healthy tissue expels the cancerous tissue
there
> is a glass ceiling of some sort. The social agenda of TN just does
not permit brams to
> do well in their career, unless they happen to work in bram
controlled pvt companies
> like TVS,
>
>
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anon
The crude reply from tevdia pulla asshole41 once again proves that tam brams have no future
in TN. They should ask themselves. What do they gain by living in TN - Constant
insults and denial of basic rights like good education or job. The fact that tam brams
outside TN are one of the most successful group clearly proves that, if given opportunity,
they can be successful. The key word is "if given opportunity".
Once again, tam brams have no future in TN where even keeping names like Varun is
enough for these brahmins hating bastards to get offended. What do they want?
Keep names like tamizh-koodi-magan.
One thing I don't understand. If these bastards hate north indians so much, then why do
they drool over north indian actresses. I guess because they are the only good looking
females they can ever see in their life. Hypocrite bastards.
anal...@hotmail.com
"anon" <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
>
> The crude reply from tevdia pulla asshole41 once again proves that
tam brams have no future
> in TN. They should ask themselves. What do they gain by living in TN -
Constant
> insults and denial of basic rights like good education or job.
I am actually against all the quotas the Kazhagams have put in place as
a reaction to the obscene domination of education/admininstration/law
etc by TamBrahms before independence.
What makes a TAm Brahm is the "Tam" part and not the "Brahm" part - the
barbarian, "light-skinned", "North Indian" part makes you crude. But
you benighted shits are in headlong pursuit of reabsorption by North
India = so GOOD RIDDANCE. Tam Brahms are abandoning Tamil rapidly and
would soon become second class Norh Indians even assuming they continue
to exist as a recognizable group.
Given the opportunity - NonBrahmin Tamils will easily exceed TamBrahms
in art/science/business etc. But quotas are not the answer - quotas
represent the continued inferiority (unjustified) felt by Non Brahmin
TAmils.
The fact that tam brams
> outside TN are one of the most successful group clearly proves that,
if given opportunity,
> they can be successful. The key word is "if given opportunity".
>
> Once again, tam brams have no future in TN where even keeping names
like Varun is
> enough for these brahmins hating bastards to get offended. What do
they want?
> Keep names like tamizh-koodi-magan.
I exposed this shit's Tamil Hatred.
>
> One thing I don't understand. If these bastards hate north indians so
much, then why do
> they drool over north indian actresses. I guess because they are the
only good looking
> females they can ever see in their life. Hypocrite bastards.
I agree. Centuries of Brainwashing by "white" Brahmin snakes in their
midst has inculcated an obscene white-worship in Tamil NAdu Tamils - no
doubt that Tamil lads find North Indian actresses "fabulous" sex-
symbols - whereas Dark-skinned Tamil girls are every bit as beautiful,
if not more, but apparently thats not what the masses want.
I understand that the Iyengars, just about the only "SOUTH INDIANS" who
served up girls "White" enough for North Indian movies (Vijayantimala,
Hemamalini, Meenakshi Seshadri) go themselves fucked by White people
and by Muslims in centuries past to "Whiten" themsleves - any truth to
that ?
anon
Tevdia pulla asshole41 wrote:-
>I agree. Centuries of Brainwashing by "white" Brahmin snakes in their
>midst has inculcated an obscene white-worship in Tamil NAdu Tamils - no
>doubt that Tamil lads find North Indian actresses "fabulous" sex-
>symbols - whereas Dark-skinned Tamil girls are every bit as beautiful,
>if not more, but apparently thats not what the masses want.
>I understand that the Iyengars, just about the only "SOUTH INDIANS" who
>served up girls "White" enough for North Indian movies (Vijayantimala,
>Hemamalini, Meenakshi Seshadri) go themselves fucked by White people
>and by Muslims in centuries past to "Whiten" themsleves - any truth to
>that ?
whom are you kidding asshole. There is no beautiful girl amongst non brahmin. All good
looking girls are brahmins only. Can you name one good looking tamil film actress
who is not a brahmin.
It is better to be fucked by white people than a dark ugly stinking buck teeth shudra pig
like you.
anal...@hotmail.com
I guess that says it all. Not so difficult to expose whats in the
heart of thiruttp pappaans.
11...@my-deja.com
belt itself and everywhere in India. Soon, our Brahminic friend here
will be posting in this NG as why brahmins do not support India.
saty...@my-deja.com
11...@my-deja.com wrote:
> The teachings of EVR, Ambedkar have spread like wild fire in the Hindi
> belt itself and everywhere in India. Soon, our Brahminic friend
here
> will be posting in this NG as why brahmins do not support India.
It is wild ,true, it is destructive fire, true. Tell me what is
correct and good about them.
Bill O'Brian
>
>This is in response to analyst41 (should change his id to
asshole41).
>Yes, tamil brahmins do not want TN to secede from India for one
and only one reason.
>Rest of India (India minus TN ) recognises their talent more
>holding top position in Bihar, Maharashtra, Haryana and of
course Delhi. Postions like
>Bihar Finance Sect, Comm of Police (Mumbai), Comm of Police
(Haryana) were all held
>by tam brams. Whatever North Indians are, they treat tam brams
well if they have talent.
>
highest position.
Should I name chief Ministers who were born in Tamil Brahmins
families ? During the time of EVR there was a heavy campaign
against Tamil Brahmins. After that politicians misused it
for votes and reservations. Now don't tell me reservations
don't exist in North India. Besides that if Tamil brahmins
were such big force in North and so very talented why is that
North is doing so badly ? Blame it on those ethnic northie
scumbags eh ? Besides that, it is untrue if someone
claims that Tam Brams who live in North India are doing
better. They form a negligible population who moved to
north due to Govt jobs at a time when Govt jobs were
considered great. With IT revolution in south, the balance
has definitely been restored.
The solution to all the problems as I see is,
1) Brahmin baiting must stop from Non Brahmins.
You can't punish the current generation for the mistakes of
the previous generations. There are enough caste wars
between Non Brahmins too. As far as TN goes B-baiting is
on its way out. It will be good, if the likes of Madurai Veeran
and Prabhaharan give up in usenet. That only alienates the
brahmins.
2) Brahmins must stop alienating themselves from Dravidian
parties. The aliance of BJP with D parties is a good start.
Likes of PSid must learn not to bait D politicians.
In the past Brahmins have blatantly licked the butt
of likes of Indira Gandhi and others who just talked of
patriotism and did worse than all the politicians of TN put
together. The bramins of the past knew that likes of
Mrs Gandhi were anti national forces but still were licking
thier butt simply because they were baited at home.
3) Reservations must stop. Reservations don't undo past mistakes.
They add up to it. They are no solution to the backwardness.
The solution to is increasing opportunities for education
and employment. As far as education goes public funding for
higher education must be stopped and more funds to primary
education must be done. More access to primary education to
poor will ensure fairness.
4) Ban Hindi in TN till following conditions hold.
1) the articles which say Hindi will be the only
official language is withdrawn. All languages
must be treated official for the state of India. We have had
more hindu muslim war than a lingual war. So why no common
religion based on majority but common language based on
majority. Central Govts hypocrisy and amounts to
discrimination
2) Even if Hindi is taught it must be done through a special
tax collected from people who expect everyone else to know
hindi. That will prove how many people think money
is dearer than Hindi. Even in such cases an induvidual
who feels Hindi education is useless he must be
allowed not to persue two language education.
3 language is a luxury not basic. It can't come
till close to 100% literacy is achieved.
Hindi education cannot be thru public funding
as Hindi cannot solve any problem.
North India is a proof !!
3) Central Schools (Kendriya Vidhyalaya) gives choices
in language. They force Hindi and Sanskrit. Instead
Central Govt must give up its hypocrisy in this
affair as they run it throuh public funding. They
can't argue based on Majortiy/Minority as every
contributes to public funds and hence every one
has the right to question
> there
>is a glass ceiling of some sort. The social agenda of TN just
does not permit brams to
>do well in their career, unless they happen to work in bram
controlled pvt companies
>like TVS,
This is news to me. Reservations exist only in Govt jobs.
Or you mean brahmins can't do well in the companies
like Ford and Hyundai which are run by Non Brahmins ?
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Anon
Some one calling himself as Bill O Brian posted this:-
>Should I name chief Ministers who were born in Tamil Brahmins
>families ? During the time of EVR there was a heavy campaign
>against Tamil Brahmins. After that politicians misused it
>for votes and reservations. Now don't tell me reservations
>don't exist in North India.
Lemme put this way. A tam brahmin has a much better chance of getting into a
medical or engg college outside TN than in TN. This coming from personal
observation and experience. All those second generation tam brams who got
their education outside TN have a much higher chance of getting into the IITs, RECs
of the world. And before u shoot off ur mouth, look at yourself.
Which college you did your non engg graduation in TN and which prestigious
college of national repute (outside TN) you did your Masters from. Why didn't u
study from some pundai univ from Madurai instead of IIS B'lore. And one more.
If IIS B'lore was in Madurai, with TN patented stupid reservation system, you would
have never got admission in that. Not to mention the reputation of IIS would not
have been the same if it was in TN.
Madurai Pottai also studied in JNU Univ Delhi and not some useless univ in pundaichery
from where he is.
> Besides that if Tamil brahmins
>were such big force in North and so very talented why is that
>North is doing so badly ?
>Blame it on those ethnic northie
>scumbags eh ?
Such questions can not be answered. Everyone considers Indians to be very smart in IT,
specially south indians. If Indians are so good in software, how come all top software
companies are in USA. Why not the Microsoft, Oracle, Cisco of the world not from India?
Why is India so pathetic in producing quality software? Blame it on the our system,eh?
I think this should peneterate ur thick skull.
Bottomline: Just bcos north india is not doing well, does not mean south indian working
there are not doing well. Similarly Indians are really strong in software, even though
India figures no where in IT.
Bill O'Brian
>
>Some one calling himself as Bill O Brian posted this:-
>
>>Should I name chief Ministers who were born in Tamil Brahmins
>>families ? During the time of EVR there was a heavy campaign
>>against Tamil Brahmins. After that politicians misused it
>>for votes and reservations. Now don't tell me reservations
>>don't exist in North India.
>
>Lemme put this way. A tam brahmin has a much better chance of
getting into a
>medical or engg college outside TN than in TN. This coming from
personal
>observation and experience.
This is a joke. Tam brahmins don't go to Medical at the
first place in any big number. Besides that there
are a large number of Tamil pappans in TN engg colleges.
Just because you saw TN with blinders hardly means that
it is non-existant. Last couple of years seats in TN engg
colleges are not getting filled in depts other than
Comp Sci. You can verify it.
> All those second generation tam
brams who got
>their education outside TN have a much higher chance of getting
into the IITs, RECs
>of the world.
HO HO HO. There are a lot of TN Brahmins in IIT too.
Few years back 6 of the top 10 ranks in JEE were bagged by
TNers. There are quite a lot of coaching centers in Madras
for JEE. Some years back a prof from Guru Nanak College
sent 170 students to IIT. It is a well known fact that
there is some "regional bias" in JEE. Almost every year
the center that sets the question paper throws maximum
number of students. So every 5 years Madras center too sends
maximum number of students to IIT. This year AP alone sent
327 students maximum for any state.
> And before u shoot off ur mouth, look at yourself.
>Which college you did your non engg graduation in TN and which
prestigious
>college of national repute (outside TN) you did your Masters
from.
Bah! My case in particular is very different. It might
interest you that there are enough reputed institutes in
Madras too. All institues are due to Govt fundings based on
where congress rules. Take for eg. Mehta research institue
in Allahabad. A Atomic institute with lot of south Indians.
The govt set it up because North India needs one good institute
too.
> Why didn't u
>study from some pundai univ from Madurai instead of IIS B'lore.
IISc Bangalore was set up by JN Tata in 1909 at Bangalore.
If it were set up in Madurai, I would have studied there.
And one more.
>If IIS B'lore was in Madurai, with TN patented stupid
reservation system, you would
>have never got admission in that.
Sure, Sure. IIT Madras too is a reservation ridden institue in
Delhi, I suppose. Zail Singh the president of India sacked
director Indirensan as he didn't want reservation in IIT
in 1970s. Zail Singh was a minister then. So is Zail Singh
a TN politician ?
> Not to mention the reputation
of IIS would not
>have been the same if it was in TN.
>Madurai Pottai also studied in JNU Univ Delhi and not some
useless univ in pundaichery
>from where he is.
JNU is a bunch of congress scum bags who do research to
prove Aurangazeb didnt kill Tegh Bagadur. What is that
you want to tell.
>
>> Besides that if Tamil brahmins
>>were such big force in North and so very talented why is that
>>North is doing so badly ?
>>Blame it on those ethnic northie
>>scumbags eh ?
>
>Such questions can not be answered. Everyone considers Indians
to be very smart in IT,
>specially south indians.
Wait, I am not asking why south India is doing well. I am asking
what happenned to North India why is it sucking big time
despite TN Brahmins. Forget IT. There are other industries
like leather, textiles and car manufacturing. TN has done well
even in that. What about north ? Are they doing badly even in
those because they lack aptitude for IT ? Some logic.
> If Indians are so good in software, how
come all top software
>companies are in USA. Why not the Microsoft, Oracle, Cisco of
the world not from India?
>Why is India so pathetic in producing quality software? Blame it
on the our system,eh?
>I think this should peneterate ur thick skull.
>
Speak sense. Oracle and Microsoft were there even prior to
India kicking the butt of socialism. Indian IT industry is 10
years old. What about Microsoft and oracle ? If I have to believe
the projections by some of the comps, India's IT exports are
likely to touch 75 billion by the end of the decade. It will
be about 20 years before India has a world beater in Hi-tech.
Bill O'Brian
>
>Speak sense. Oracle and Microsoft were there even prior to
>India kicking the butt of socialism. Indian IT industry is 10
>years old. What about Microsoft and oracle ? If I have to
believe
>the projections by some of the comps, India's IT exports are
>likely to touch 75 billion by the end of the decade. It will
>be about 20 years before India has a world beater in Hi-tech.
To drive my point further, S.Korea or china don't have any
world beating companies. S.Korea has Daewoo, Hyudai, Samsung
and LG which are globally present. Not one can be considered
world beater like Microsoft and Cisco. China makes every single
household item which sell in USA. Still, which are the chinese
big comps we hear ? Nikon may be. It is stupid to compare
a developing country like India so early with US comps.
There are a few well known car comps in Europe. Besides that
they have Siemens which is some kind of MC^2 comp. Then they
have erricson and nokia from sweaden and finland. It will be
good to have a microsoft or cisco. But, given the fact
that all development is happenning only in the last 10 years,
it is unrealistic to expect a world beater right now. Given
that the exponential IT boom one wouldn't be completely off the
mark if he predicts a world beater in next 25 years from India.
Not that such a thing will happen. But, it *can* happen.
Anon
Some one calling himself as Bill O Brian posted this:-
>This is a joke. Tam brahmins don't go to Medical at the
>first place in any big number. Besides that there
>are a large number of Tamil pappans in TN engg colleges.
>Just because you saw TN with blinders hardly means that
>it is non-existant. Last couple of years seats in TN engg
>colleges are not getting filled in depts other than
>Comp Sci. You can verify it.
There are more number of tam brams living in TN than in rest of India. So obviosuly the
absolute numbers are going to be more. On top of it there are lot of Pvt engg colleges
in TN specifically for brams. Take the relative percentage.
I am not taking about IIT alone. Good engg colleges like Delhi College of Engg, Roorkie
Engg college, Pilani and VJTI Mumbai also has tam brams in good numbers. You never
lived outside TN (and B'lore). So how do u know about rest of India.
>It is a well known fact that
>there is some "regional bias" in JEE. Almost every year
>the center that sets the question paper throws maximum
>number of students. So every 5 years Madras center too sends
>maximum number of students to IIT. This year AP alone sent
>327 students maximum for any state.
Well known fact??? I am hearing it for the first time. And you know I have got sources
to verify it. BTW AP comes is what center. There is no IIT in AP.
>IISc Bangalore was set up by JN Tata in 1909 at Bangalore.
>If it were set up in Madurai, I would have studied there.
what prevented some chettiar in setting up an equivalent reputed institute
in TN. Admit it, you went to IIS bcos it is good and decidedly better than all
engg colleges of TN. Are there any good colleges in TN.
>JNU is a bunch of congress scum bags who do research to
>prove Aurangazeb didnt kill Tegh Bagadur. What is that
>you want to tell.
Still JNU is better than any univ of pundainadu, at least the reputation is.
Now don't tell me some high class research goes on in pundainadu.
> I am asking
>what happenned to North India why is it sucking big time
>despite TN Brahmins. Forget IT. There are other industries
>like leather, textiles and car manufacturing. TN has done well
>even in that. What about north ? Are they doing badly even in
>those because they lack aptitude for IT ? Some logic.
What is this u want to tell? For eg, in Bihar Sindhis are very well to
do. they are very good in business there. applying ur pundai logic we should ask
them "why is bihar at the bottom of india, despite sindhis". Some logic?
TN brahmins are doing well in other parts of India. View it in isolation.
There is no need for them to be made accountable for general conditions of those
states.
You say TN is kicking the butt of north indian. I agree with you. However it
may hurt you to know that some north states like Punjab, Haryana have better
Per Capita of Income than TN. Where is the oh so great southie brain.
>Speak sense. Oracle and Microsoft were there even prior to
>India kicking the butt of socialism. Indian IT industry is 10
>years old. What about Microsoft and oracle ? If I have to believe
>the projections by some of the comps, India's IT exports are
>likely to touch 75 billion by the end of the decade. It will
>be about 20 years before India has a world beater in Hi-tech.
You do speak lot of sense. IT industry by nature is dynamic. There are upteen number of
cases in USA where young companies have kicked the ass of old companies. Internet
and E Commerce revolotion took place in the last 4-5 yrs. Still India is no where in those
industry.
Mr Anon.
PS: All the IT revolution in TN is due to brahmins.
PPS: My last response to you.
Sundar
Eduacate our people, every one of us make it a practice to treat others for
what they are and we show that charitable heart hidden somewhere within us.
All this before our religion diappears - killing the South Asian culture
with it.
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>
> This is in response to analyst41 (should change his id to asshole41).
> Yes, tamil brahmins do not want TN to secede from India for one and only
one reason.
> Rest of India (India minus TN ) recognises their talent more than TN. I
have seen tam brams
> holding top position in Bihar, Maharashtra, Haryana and of course Delhi.
Postions like
> Bihar Finance Sect, Comm of Police (Mumbai), Comm of Police (Haryana) were
all held
> by tam brams. Whatever North Indians are, they treat tam brams well if
they have talent.
>
> Now in TN it is just not conceivable that a tam bram can get the highest
position. there
11...@my-deja.com
of the population )have hijacked the Indian establishment. Politics,
economy, media. If India is for all Indians, then every one must
participate equally.
Madurai Veeran
"anon" <anon...@cotse.com> wrote in message
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>
> This is in response to analyst41 (should change his id to asshole41).
> Yes, tamil brahmins do not want TN to secede from India for one and only
one reason.
> Rest of India (India minus TN ) recognises their talent more than TN.
TN brahmins want to secede from TN, but do not want TN from secede from
India!
Not that I want TN to secede from India, I am merely trying to find the
logic in your argument. TN brahmins left TN in droves on the pretext of
Dravidian persecution, since India became independent. They went to
Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Delhi and Calcutta, only to use the freedom of
movement offered by the independent India to use their newfound destinations
as springboards to move on to their real homeland of United States.
Who are the Tamils who talk about patriotism ad nauseum? Tamil brahmins!
Who constitute the highest percentage of Tamils in US? Tamil brahmins!!
So much for their patriotism! This is a pattern that is very characterestic
of brahmins in general and TN brahmins in particular. They came from some
godforaken parts of South Central Asia on the same pretext. The only thing
that matters to them is their self-interest and self well-being. They are
using the bogey of patriotism to gain acceptance in other parts of India so
that they can occupy all the instutions of higher learning and in turn use
that to fly to United States or any other affluent country. Don't be
surprised if that affluent country happens to be Pakistan. They will all
become muslim brahmins and move on to Pakistan.
> I have seen tam brams
> holding top position in Bihar, Maharashtra, Haryana and of course Delhi.
Postions like
> Bihar Finance Sect, Comm of Police (Mumbai), Comm of Police (Haryana) were
all held
> by tam brams. Whatever North Indians are, they treat tam brams well if
they have talent.
>
Then how come brahmins managed to hold only 4% of the top administrative and
academic postions prior to coming into being of the so called independent
India?
You guys have managed to occupy 70% of the posts in post British India!!
Can you explain this anomaly?
No, you will not. It is called nepotism. Sheer nepotism and that is what
helped you to be there, where you are now.
> Now in TN it is just not conceivable that a tam bram can get the highest
position. there
> is a glass ceiling of some sort.
Statistics will speak otherwise. Notwithstanding all the Dravidian
conspiracy against Tamil brahmins, there are still plenty of Tamil brahmins
in high positions, in proportions far too higher than other social groups.
Madurai Veeran
Anon
Madurai Veeran wrote:-
>TN brahmins want to secede from TN, but do not want TN from secede from
>India! Not that I want TN to secede from India, I am merely trying to find the
>logic in your argument.
Simple. A formation of independent TN will result in tamils being driven out of
all parts of india, forcing them to go back to TN, where hell awaits them :-)
other indians give a rat's ass to bram/non bram crap. for them all are madrasis.
as long as india exists as one country, tamil are safe. Do you honestly believe
tamils will be spared in Bangalore if TN secedes from India.
> The only thing that matters to them is their self-interest and self well-being.
I wouldn't deny it. Like any normal person, my first duty is towards my children. Then comes
my country. Whereever I am in a better position to give a better life to my
children I will move on there, be it Mumbai or Delhi or Amreeka. I am happy to say that
non brams also have learnt this and are doing the same. Now don't tell me that all those
mallus/tamils in gulf countries are brams.
Anyhow brams are better than lankan tamils refugees living in India. They use the most abusive
language against the country which provided them food and shelter. How ungrateful.
>Then how come brahmins managed to hold only 4% of the top administrative and
>academic postions prior to coming into being of the so called independent
>India? You guys have managed to occupy 70% of the posts in post British India!!
>Can you explain this anomaly? No, you will not. It is called nepotism. Sheer nepotism and
>that is what helped you to be there, where you are now.
But brams are hardly great in any other profession. You wouldn't find brams doing that well
in business (with the exception of IT). If nepotism was there, brams should be doing well
everywhere. There is something called core competency. At one time Sikhs constitute
maximum percentage in the indian army. Same core competency.
All track and field sports events is dominated by blacks. In fact I don't recollect one
olympics 100 m finals where there was a non black in 8 finalists. The last one was the
1980 Olympics. Shall we say blacks are doing well in certain sports due to nepotism.
Applying your pundai logic, it should be nepotism.
Bill O'Brian
>
>>This is a joke. Tam brahmins don't go to Medical at the
>>first place in any big number. Besides that there
>>are a large number of Tamil pappans in TN engg colleges.
>>Just because you saw TN with blinders hardly means that
>>it is non-existant. Last couple of years seats in TN engg
>>colleges are not getting filled in depts other than
>>Comp Sci. You can verify it.
>
>There are more number of tam brams living in TN than in rest of
India. So obviosuly the
>absolute numbers are going to be more.
Some excuse. The fact is North Indian states have not improved
due to Tam Brahmins. tam brahmins contributed nothing there.
so Economy runs due to Tam brahmins smartness is b.s.
I can safely say that companies like
Hyundai, textile industries and Leather industries
B's contribution would be very low. They too form economy.
> On top of it there are
lot of Pvt engg colleges
>in TN specifically for brams.
Really ?? There are lot of non brahmins too in such colleges.
> Take the relative percentage.
>I am not taking about IIT alone. Good engg colleges like Delhi
College of Engg, Roorkie
>Engg college, Pilani and VJTI Mumbai also has tam brams in good
numbers.
Same with Anna Univ. Anna univ are psg tech are quite reputed
too. Don't tell me Delhi's college of engg is better
than Anna Univ.
> You never
>lived outside TN (and B'lore). So how do u know about rest of
India.
>
>>It is a well known fact that
>>there is some "regional bias" in JEE. Almost every year
>>the center that sets the question paper throws maximum
>>number of students. So every 5 years Madras center too sends
>>maximum number of students to IIT. This year AP alone sent
>>327 students maximum for any state.
>
>Well known fact???
Most of those who write JEE are quite aware of the correlations.
Can't help if you didn't know.
> I am hearing it for the first time. And you
know I have got sources
>to verify it. BTW AP comes is what center. There is no IIT in
AP.
As far as IIT goes there are only 5 centers. Now it is 6.
>
>>IISc Bangalore was set up by JN Tata in 1909 at Bangalore.
>>If it were set up in Madurai, I would have studied there.
>
>what prevented some chettiar in setting up an equivalent reputed
institute
>in TN. Admit it, you went to IIS bcos it is good and decidedly
better than all
>engg colleges of TN.
IISc is first of all not an engg college. It is better than
all engg of colleges of India including the IITs. The rankings
and facilties till a few years back was like that. So what is
your point ? Coming to Chettiars they too has started quite a
fews colleges. But due to the fact that they were not as rich
as Tata they didn't make it as big.
> Are there any good colleges in TN.
There are quite a few. Electro chemical institute in Karaikudi,
Anna univ, Spic foundation, Institue of maths science.
How come TNers do so well otherwise ?
>
>>JNU is a bunch of congress scum bags who do research to
>>prove Aurangazeb didnt kill Tegh Bagadur. What is that
>>you want to tell.
>
>Still JNU is better than any univ of pundainadu, at least the
reputation is.
>Now don't tell me some high class research goes on in
pundainadu.
This coming from someone who shied away from sciences at std X.
Since you dragged my personal data, lemme have the pleasure of
returning the favor. You studied in some behanchod college
in Delhi in commerce dept. After realizing that delhi colleges
are all mothered you went to BIT Ranchi the
Doomed oops deemed to be unviversity. You wouldn't have got into
JNU even. So you can decide who is better, you are Madurai
veeran. How about stikcing to the topic instead of talking about
what my degree is what your degree is ? I can easily give back.
FWIW, Anna univ is definitely better than JNU.
>
>> I am asking
>>what happenned to North India why is it sucking big time
>>despite TN Brahmins. Forget IT. There are other industries
>>like leather, textiles and car manufacturing. TN has done well
>>even in that. What about north ? Are they doing badly even in
>>those because they lack aptitude for IT ? Some logic.
>
>What is this u want to tell? For eg, in Bihar Sindhis are very
well to
>do. they are very good in business there. applying ur pundai
logic we should ask
>them "why is bihar at the bottom of india, despite sindhis".
Some logic?
>TN brahmins are doing well in other parts of India.
They are doing well in TN too. Your point was they do well
outside TN only if they come out and have no future in TN.
So it is just my kick on your ass.
> View it in
isolation.
>There is no need for them to be made accountable for general
conditions of those
>states.
>
>You say TN is kicking the butt of north indian. I agree with
you. However it
>may hurt you to know that some north states like Punjab, Haryana
have better
>Per Capita of Income than TN. Where is the oh so great southie
brain.
>
That *was* till 1991. TN was way behind many states till
industrialization.
>
>>Speak sense. Oracle and Microsoft were there even prior to
>>India kicking the butt of socialism. Indian IT industry is 10
>>years old. What about Microsoft and oracle ? If I have to
believe
>>the projections by some of the comps, India's IT exports are
>>likely to touch 75 billion by the end of the decade. It will
>>be about 20 years before India has a world beater in Hi-tech.
>
>You do speak lot of sense. IT industry by nature is dynamic.
There are upteen number of
>cases in USA where young companies have kicked the ass of old
companies. Internet
>and E Commerce revolotion took place in the last 4-5 yrs. Still
India is no where in those
>industry.
>
India still sucks in infrastructure. But wait, if India has
to do well it only depends on south. How many korean comps
did so well that they kicked ass of USA in no time ?
How many chinese comps have done that ?
>Mr Anon.
>PS: All the IT revolution in TN is due to brahmins.
>PPS: My last response to you.
When you bite more than you can chew might as well spit it
out.
Bill O'Brian
>
>
>TN brahmins want to secede from TN, but do not want TN from
secede from
>India!
>Not that I want TN to secede from India, I am merely trying to
find the
pretext of
>Dravidian persecution, since India became independent. They went
to
>Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Delhi and Calcutta, only to use the
freedom of
>movement offered by the independent India to use their newfound
destinations
>as springboards to move on to their real homeland of United
States.
>
>Who are the Tamils who talk about patriotism ad nauseum? Tamil
brahmins!
And you are as much a patriot. You too live in
US right.
Awright Veerappan. You have had enough of your brahmin
baiting. Must I remind you that brahminism is a lost cause.
By baiting it the way you are doing, you are keeping
it alive. Think about it. What do you gain out of
this ? Could you answer this please ?
P.Siddharth
>1) Brahmin baiting must stop from Non Brahmins.
> You can't punish the current generation for the mistakes of
> the previous generations. There are enough caste wars
> between Non Brahmins too. As far as TN goes B-baiting is
> on its way out. It will be good, if the likes of Madurai Veeran
> and Prabhaharan give up in usenet. That only alienates the
> brahmins.
>
>> 3) Reservations must stop. Reservations don't undo past mistakes.
> They add up to it. They are no solution to the backwardness.
> The solution to is increasing opportunities for education
> and employment. As far as education goes public funding for
> higher education must be stopped and more funds to primary
> education must be done. More access to primary education to
> poor will ensure fairness.
>
>
YOU SHOULD ALSO BE AGAINST MOTHERHOOD AND APPLE PIE. HOW CAN YOU BE
AGAINST CASTE SYSTEM AND RESERVATIONS. HOW ELSE WOULD PEOPLE LIKE
MADURAI VEERAN GET A DEGREE. AFTER ALL NOT EVERYONE CAN LEARN THE
ALPHABET. ARE THEY NOT HUMAN BEINGS? DON'T THEY DESERVE DEGREES IN
ENGINEERING AND MEDICINE? IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT THAT THEY WERE BORN WITH
RUDIMENTARY BRAIN. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO BRING THEM UP AND THAT IS
HAND OVER THE DEGREES WITHOUT MUCH ADO.
BRAHMINS SHOULD BE PREVENTED FROM LEAVING TAMIL NADU AS THEY GO OUT AND
BECOME RICH.NEW POGRAMS AND CONCENTRATION CAMPS IS A SOLUTION THAT IS
COMPASSIONATE AND HUMANE RATHER THAN ETHNIC CLEANSING.ONLY PEOPLE WITH A
'MADURAI VEERAN ' DEGREE SHOULD BE GIVEN TOP POSTS LIKE V.C. OF
UNIVERSITY, ADMINISTRATORS ETC. POLICE HEAD SHOULD BE SOMEONE LIKE
SHTALIN AS WHO IS BETTER TO JUDGE A KIDNAPPER OR A RAPIST THAN ONE WHO
HAS HAD SUCH AN EXPERIENCE.CLASSES IN COLLEGES SHOULD BE ABOLISHED AND
DEGREES HANDED OVER LIKE THEY ARE BEING DONE NOW. THEN WE WILL SEE HOW
MANY BRAMS GET DEGREES.
AS FAR AS B, BAITING- L CLASSES SHOULD BE HELD TO TRAIN PEOPLE TO
THROWSTONES AT BRAHMINS.MADURAI VEERAN DURING HIS COLLEGE DAYS WAS THE
BEST STONE THROWER AT ANNA UNIVERSITY AND THAT IS THE REASON HE GOT A
PRIZE.
Bill O'Brian
>Bill O'Brian wrote:
>
>>
>YOU SHOULD ALSO BE AGAINST MOTHERHOOD AND APPLE PIE. HOW CAN YOU
BE
>AGAINST CASTE SYSTEM AND RESERVATIONS. HOW ELSE WOULD PEOPLE
LIKE
>MADURAI VEERAN GET A DEGREE. AFTER ALL NOT EVERYONE CAN LEARN
THE
>ALPHABET.
How about giving up your NB baiting ? Neither you nor
Madurai Veeran seem to stop B-NB bating business.
Dammit, B-NB war had stopped 10 years back in TN itself.
How come you folks do it in usenet ?
(sarcastic NB baiting crap deleted)
Ganesh Sankarasubramanian
against Casteism ?
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> "anon" <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
> >
> >This is in response to analyst41 (should change his id to
> asshole41).
> >Yes, tamil brahmins do not want TN to secede from India for one
> and only one reason.
> >Rest of India (India minus TN ) recognises their talent more
> than TN. I have seen tam brams
> >holding top position in Bihar, Maharashtra, Haryana and of
> course Delhi. Postions like
> >Bihar Finance Sect, Comm of Police (Mumbai), Comm of Police
> (Haryana) were all held
> >by tam brams. Whatever North Indians are, they treat tam brams
> well if they have talent.
> >
> >Now in TN it is just not conceivable that a tam bram can get the
> highest position.
>
> Should I name chief Ministers who were born in Tamil Brahmins
> families ? During the time of EVR there was a heavy campaign
> against Tamil Brahmins. After that politicians misused it
> for votes and reservations. Now don't tell me reservations
> don't exist in North India. Besides that if Tamil brahmins
> were such big force in North and so very talented why is that
> North is doing so badly ? Blame it on those ethnic northie
> scumbags eh ? Besides that, it is untrue if someone
> claims that Tam Brams who live in North India are doing
> better. They form a negligible population who moved to
> north due to Govt jobs at a time when Govt jobs were
> considered great. With IT revolution in south, the balance
> has definitely been restored.
>
> The solution to all the problems as I see is,
>
> 1) Brahmin baiting must stop from Non Brahmins.
> You can't punish the current generation for the mistakes of
> the previous generations. There are enough caste wars
> between Non Brahmins too. As far as TN goes B-baiting is
> on its way out. It will be good, if the likes of Madurai Veeran
> and Prabhaharan give up in usenet. That only alienates the
> brahmins.
>
> 2) Brahmins must stop alienating themselves from Dravidian
> parties. The aliance of BJP with D parties is a good start.
> Likes of PSid must learn not to bait D politicians.
> In the past Brahmins have blatantly licked the butt
> of likes of Indira Gandhi and others who just talked of
> patriotism and did worse than all the politicians of TN put
> together. The bramins of the past knew that likes of
> Mrs Gandhi were anti national forces but still were licking
> thier butt simply because they were baited at home.
>
> 3) Reservations must stop. Reservations don't undo past mistakes.
> They add up to it. They are no solution to the backwardness.
> The solution to is increasing opportunities for education
> and employment. As far as education goes public funding for
> higher education must be stopped and more funds to primary
> education must be done. More access to primary education to
> poor will ensure fairness.
>
> > there
> >is a glass ceiling of some sort. The social agenda of TN just
> does not permit brams to
> >do well in their career, unless they happen to work in bram
> controlled pvt companies
> >like TVS,
>
> This is news to me. Reservations exist only in Govt jobs.
> Or you mean brahmins can't do well in the companies
> like Ford and Hyundai which are run by Non Brahmins ?
>
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