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staten

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Nov 28, 2009, 9:02:59 AM11/28/09
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After keeping invaders at bay for two centuries the Swiss are about to
vote on what many see as the enemy within: their growing minority of
Muslims.

On Sunday, the calm little nation at the heart of Europe will decide
whether to approve a constitutional ban on building minarets, the
spires that are often attached to mosques.

The issue arose when Mutalip Karaademi, a Muslim leader in the town of
Langenthal, north of Berne, suggested a modest tower for the local
mosque. The mayor supported what would have been only the fifth
minaret in Switzerland — but it was blocked by opponents who want to
halt what they see as inroads by political Islam in the world’s oldest
democracy.

“They think we are animals, when we are normal people just like they
are, not a threat to anyone,” said Mr Karaademi, who arrived 27 years
ago from Albania. “They call us new names every day . . . terrorists
and Islamists,” he told The Times.


Switzerland row over minaret ban referendum
Right-wing leader removed from Swiss government
Strong opposition to a possible ban is coming from the federal
Government, churches and the business world, who fear that
Switzerland’s spirit of tolerance is being sullied by the populist
Swiss People’s Party (SVP). The group rode the nationalist tide under
Christoph Blocher, its charismatic former leader, to become the
biggest party in parliament in 2003.

“The simple fact of holding this vote is disastrous for Switzerland’s
image,” said Hugues Hiltpold, a Radical MP from Geneva. “If it passes,
part of what makes Switzerland Swiss will fall — its respect for
minorities, its tolerance and freedom.”

Polls have shown a narrow margin opposed to the ban, with more than a
third in favour and the rest undecided.

The Muslim population, mainly from Turkey and the Balkans, has grown
from a few thousand to more than 400,000, 4 per cent of the
population, since the 1970s. There have been no extremist incidents
associated with the 150 mosques and prayer rooms, but the minaret
issue is seen by many as a chance to save Switzerland from tension
over immigration of the kind that has affected its neighbours.

Ulrich Schlüer, one of those who raised the requisite 100,000
signatures for the vote to take place, said: “We compare our situation
to Germany, France or England — the problems they have in their
suburbs. That is what we do not want.” Voters were hiding their
intentions from pollsters and would approve the move, he said.

The SVP rejects the government view that a ban would breach the law on
freedom of religion. It cites Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Prime Minister
of Turkey, who once called minarets “the bayonets of Islam”.

The Establishment recognises widespread disquiet over Muslims and is
trying to counter scaremongering by the SVP and its right-wing
evangelical allies. President Merz reassured the nation in a video
broadcast on Tuesday. “Muslims should be able to practise their
religion and have access to minarets in Switzerland too, but the call
of the muezzin will not sound here,” he said.

The political world is worried about a worldwide Muslim backlash of
the kind that hit Denmark after the affair of the Muhammad cartoons.
Business leaders are also concerned — in a nation that earns £10
billion a year from Muslim countries.

Al Nakba

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Nov 28, 2009, 5:02:38 PM11/28/09
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asslifters out!

Marcus Aurelius

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Nov 28, 2009, 8:13:54 PM11/28/09
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I've traveled to the beautiful country of Switzerland on at least one
occasion.
With regard to the original post, it is evident that once women obtain
electoral power and the right to vote, borders begin to collapse. This
has been the case through out the whole world. Social disintegration
begins also. This appears to be the case in Switzerland, also.
I have respect for all religions and cultures including the Muslim
religion and culture. However, it is clearly evident that immigration
should not be utilized to destroy and culture and it's peoples. I do
strongly believe in freedom of religion such that I oppose any
restriction on the building of any house of worship, including that of
minarets for the Muslim religion. However, I believe that the Swiss
have the ethical right to limit immigration from nations, inclusive of
Muslim nations, that do not share the commonly held ethical, moral,
and social norms of the indigenous Swiss population.

john.ku...@sympatico.ca

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:32:16 AM11/29/09
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Zorro_2k

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Nov 29, 2009, 10:05:36 AM11/29/09
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On Nov 29, 9:32 am,
"Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"

<john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On Nov 28, 9:02 am, staten <state...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > After keeping invaders at bay for two centuries the Swiss are about to
> > vote on what many see as the enemy within: their growing minority of
> > Muslims.
>
> > On Sunday, the calm little nation at the heart of Europe will decide
> > whether to approve a constitutional ban on buildingminarets, the

> > spires that are often attached to mosques.
>
> > The issue arose when Mutalip Karaademi, a Muslim leader in the town of
> > Langenthal, north of Berne, suggested a modest tower for the local
> > mosque. The mayor supported what would have been only the fifth
> > minaret inSwitzerland— but it was blocked by opponents who want to

> > halt what they see as inroads by political Islam in the world’s oldest
> > democracy.
>
> > “They think we are animals, when we are normal people just like they
> > are, not a threat to anyone,” said Mr Karaademi, who arrived 27 years
> > ago from Albania. “They call us new names every day . . . terrorists
> > and Islamists,” he told The Times.
>
> >Switzerlandrow over minaret ban referendum

> > Right-wing leader removed from Swiss government
> > Strong opposition to a possible ban is coming from the federal
> > Government, churches and the business world, who fear that
> >Switzerland’sspirit of tolerance is being sullied by the populist

> > Swiss People’s Party (SVP). The group rode the nationalist tide under
> > Christoph Blocher, its charismatic former leader, to become the
> > biggest party in parliament in 2003.
>
> > “The simple fact of holding this vote is disastrous forSwitzerland’s

> > image,” said Hugues Hiltpold, a Radical MP from Geneva. “If it passes,
> > part of what makesSwitzerlandSwiss will fall — its respect for

> > minorities, its tolerance and freedom.”
>
> > Polls have shown a narrow margin opposed to the ban, with more than a
> > third in favour and the rest undecided.
>
> > The Muslim population, mainly from Turkey and the Balkans, has grown
> > from a few thousand to more than 400,000, 4 per cent of the
> > population, since the 1970s. There have been no extremist incidents
> > associated with the 150 mosques and prayer rooms, but the minaret
> > issue is seen by many as a chance to saveSwitzerlandfrom tension

> > over immigration of the kind that has affected its neighbours.
>
> > Ulrich Schlüer, one of those who raised the requisite 100,000
> > signatures for the vote to take place, said: “We compare our situation
> > to Germany, France or England — the problems they have in their
> > suburbs. That is what we do not want.” Voters were hiding their
> > intentions from pollsters and would approve the move, he said.
>
> > The SVP rejects the government view that a ban would breach the law on
> > freedom of religion. It cites Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Prime Minister
> > of Turkey, who once calledminarets“the bayonets of Islam”.

>
> > The Establishment recognises widespread disquiet over Muslims and is
> > trying to counter scaremongering by the SVP and its right-wing
> > evangelical allies. President Merz reassured the nation in a video
> > broadcast on Tuesday. “Muslims should be able to practise their
> > religion and have access tominaretsinSwitzerlandtoo, but the call

> > of the muezzin will not sound here,” he said.
>
> > The political world is worried about a worldwide Muslim backlash of
> > the kind that hit Denmark after the affair of the Muhammad cartoons.
> > Business leaders are also concerned — in a nation that earns £10
> > billion a year from Muslim countries.
>
> New swiss flag:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wgh3P0eqLmk/SS31VOSbBNI/AAAAAAAADCQ/blQwQPn...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The creeping tide of Islam. Personally, I see no more problem with a
minaret as I do any other church steeple or high-flying cross atop a
spire. In fact, the shape of a minaret is often very much more
pleasing to the eye. But PLEASE...prohibit the obnoxoius call to
prayer heard 'ad infinitum' throughout the Muslim world, as well as
the practice of attaching neon lights to minarets and mosques like a
cheap corner bar.

staten

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Nov 29, 2009, 12:10:29 PM11/29/09
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If you respect the Muslim religion and culture then you should
respect jihad, war against infidels, sharia , honor killings, forced
marriages, polygamy, forced conversions to Islam etc, as all this is
an intrinsic part of Muslim religion and culture.

staten

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Nov 29, 2009, 12:50:45 PM11/29/09
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On Nov 29, 10:05 am, Zorro_2k <Chief_Bi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 9:32 am,
> "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------­------------------------"
> > New swiss flag:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wgh3P0eqLmk/SS31VOSbBNI/AAAAAAAADCQ/blQwQPn...Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
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> The creeping tide of Islam. Personally, I see no more problem with a
> minaret as I do any other church steeple or high-flying cross atop a
> spire. In fact, the shape of a minaret is often very much more
> pleasing to the eye. But PLEASE...prohibit the obnoxoius call to
> prayer heard 'ad infinitum' throughout the Muslim world, as well as
> the practice of attaching neon lights to minarets and mosques like a
> cheap corner bar.-
>


Mosques and minarets in our western cities grow with a proportion of
the growth of the Muslim population. It was noted that as the Muslim
population increases in any country, the threat of violence against
the host country rises as well. In addition, accommodations to Muslim
"sensibilities" also increase exponentially. That's why seeing more
minarets in any country is a sure sign for the national disaster.
Europe 40 – 50 years ago and Europe today is a good example of a self-
imposed cultural suicide. And everything has started just from
allowing Muslims to built minarets .

Al Nakba

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Nov 30, 2009, 2:48:00 AM11/30/09
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> > > New swiss flag:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wgh3P0eqLmk/SS31VOSbBNI/AAAAAAAADCQ/blQwQPn...quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > The creeping tide of Islam. Personally, I see no more problem with a
> > minaret as I do any other church steeple or high-flying cross atop a
> > spire. In fact, the shape of a minaret is often very much more
> > pleasing to the eye. But PLEASE...prohibit the obnoxoius call to
> > prayer heard 'ad infinitum' throughout the Muslim world, as well as
> > the practice of attaching neon lights to minarets and mosques like a
> > cheap corner bar.-
>
> Mosques and minarets in our western cities  grow with a proportion of
> the growth of the Muslim population.  It  was noted that as the Muslim
> population increases in any country, the threat of violence against
> the host country rises as well. In addition, accommodations to Muslim
> "sensibilities" also increase exponentially. That's why seeing more
> minarets in any country is a sure sign  for  the national disaster.
> Europe 40 – 50 years ago and Europe today is a good example of a self-
> imposed  cultural suicide. And everything has started just from
> allowing Muslims to built minarets .- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Islam is a fulminating, metastatic carcinoma in need of radical
resection from westyern societies..

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