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Story of a Muslim Revert Islam is the right Religion
Tuesday, 08 July 2008 16:23

Huda, Nadia and Selvi-all converts to Islam, standing outside the Taipei Grand Mosque in
Taiwan, after a noon prayer service, said their faith had given them strength. It was a list of
questions that brought Huda to the Taipei Grand Mosque. "Why can't they eat pork? Why must
women cover up? And why, if men can take four wives, can't women take four husbands?"
After enrolling in a six-week course on the fundamentals of Islam, she found her answers, and
she found religion. "When I first heard about the course, I told myself, 'This is your time to
learn something new.' I discovered how to live my life according to the Qur'aan, and now I feel
very peaceful," she said.

While stories of suicide attacks and beheadings permeate news coverage from Afghanistan and the
Middle East, Taipei Grand Mosque Imam Ma Shiao-chi said the number of people visiting the
mosque with questions about Islam had increased.

"The news always highlights the bad things. About 90 per cent of the news is negative. They
hear stories about people getting their heads cut off and think Islam is a bad religion. They
know very few things about Islam. They want to know what makes people do these things," he said.

Their reasons for converting to Islam vary, but these women are finding freedom in Islam.

Most of those going to the mosque are women, he said. Whether they were born into a
non-practising Muslim family, converted for marriage, or, like Huda, are simply curious to
learn more about the religion, the women Ma meets wanted to better understand the role of women
in Islam.

Perhaps they have no intentions of converting, Ma said, but at least they take the time to
dispel a few stereotypes about the religion.

Some, however, do convert. As a teenager, Sana researched various religions and recalls
visiting several temples, but it was Islam that appealed most to her. "So many things led me to
feel Islam was the right religion. Even, when I was a child, I never liked to eat pork," she said.

After living in Pakistan with her husband and children for eight years, Sana said she is now
re-adjusting to being part of a minority religion in Taiwan.

Taiwan has an estimated 130,000 Muslims, less than half of which are Chinese-Muslims.

"I am Chinese and I am Muslim," said Sana giving the example of wearing a white headscarf, a
colour often associated with death in Taiwan.

Sana and Huda describe wearing the hijab as an honour and affirmation of their faith. They
agreed, however, that while its purpose is to prevent unwanted attention to their bodies, it in
fact often draws more attention. This they said is part of learning to live in a non-Muslim
society.

Likewise, Huda, who works in an international trading company, was originally told she could
not wear her hijab to work, as it might make clients uncomfortable. "Eventually my colleagues
and boss accepted it. It took time, but they know being Muslim is an important part of my
life," she said.

While he criticised the unfair portrayal of Islam in the media, Ma said Muslim practitioners in
Taiwan experience little persecution from the public. One reason, he said, might have to do
with the small number of followers. "We are very few, so we are not really a risk to them," he
said.

The majority of Chinese practising Islam are second-and third-generation Muslims, whose
families came to Taiwan with the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) in 1949. As years passed,
people started to relax their religious observations, Ma said.

"A lot of Muslims in Taiwan were born Muslim, but not all of them pray everyday. But Islam is a
lifestyle. You need to do the Muslim practices [the Five Pillars of Islam] or else it is easy
to lose the religion," he said.

Nadia was born into a non-practising Chinese-Muslim household. Following in her sister's
footsteps, she made the transition to a more pious observance during college. As she learned
more about the religion, she began to dress more conservatively, covering all but her face and
hands. "It was just an outfit on the outside, but it changed my life on the inside. I felt more
confident," she said.

In addition to Muslims rediscovering their lost faith, Ma said most women embracing Islam in
Taiwan do so for marriage. Of the 20 new converts last year 12 were for marriage, he said.

According to the Qur'aan, a Muslim man can marry a woman from a monotheistic religion
(Christianity, Islam and Judaism), but he is prohibited from marrying a woman from a
polytheistic religion (Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism, etc).

Marriage is how Aisha entered Islam 20 years ago. "In the beginning it was just for marriage. I
could accept that there is only one god and not eat pork. I couldn't wear the hijab," she said.

A decade later she started reading the Qur'aan, attending classes and wearing the headscarf and
feels her relationship with her husband is better for it. "Now we have the same way of looking
at things. I can communicate better with my husband," she said.

Each of the women said Islam places a large emphasis on respect and equality for women. One of
the most debated gender issues in the Qur'aan is the tradition that allows Muslim men to take
four wives.

Sana said she would find it difficult to share her husband with another woman, but noted the
practice is not exclusive to Islam.

"My (non-Muslim) father had three wives, but not the legal way. This hurt my mother and me a
lot. He never asked my mother and he never treated all of his children the same," she said.

"Even if I agreed to a second marriage (of my husband), there are many rights to protect me and
my property. He must still provide for me and our children," Sana said.

The women and the Imam said the conditions under which a man is permitted to take four wives
make it virtually impossible for him to do so. As it is necessary that the husband must treat
each of his wives equally, both financially and intimately.
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In the Name of Allah Most Perverted and Vile, Lord of the wicked: May
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The word kuffar is as pejorative as the word nigger. It is the
favorite Muslim word to describe a non-Muslim. Muslims broke world
records of genocide (270 million victims), slavery, religiously
sanctioned rape, abuse of human rights, and prohibition of scientific
inquiry. Islam forbids Muslim emigration to the lands of the infidels
because a Muslim minority cannot enslave the infidel majority. Despite
this prohibition Muslims emigrate to the West, not as migrants, but as
conquerors. They live in sharia mini-states and expand these mini-
states by terrorizing infidel neighbors and driving them out. Any
society not willing to subjugate itself to Islamic authority is,
according to Muslims, in a state of war, or Dar Al-Harb, with Islam.
Arabic proverb says "first comes Saturday, then Sunday." It means that
Arabs are going to exterminate Jews before they exterminate
Christians. It also means that Israel is the first line of defense
against Islam. Islam, like cancer, has the sole purpose of making more
of itself. It will kill our civilization unless it is cut, poisoned,
and radiated into remission.

“I have been made victorious with terror.” - Muhammad (according to
Bukhari: 4.52.220)

In a poll taken for the Davos World Economic Forum, stunning numbers
of Europeans fear a "threat" from Muslims with whom they "interact":
79 percent of Danes, 67 percent of Italians, 68 percent of Spaniards,
65 percent of Swedes and 59 percent of Belgians. source:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0408/blankley042308.php3?printer_friendly

Europe’s Muslim population is set to increase from around 13% today to
between 22% and 37% of the population by 2025. source:
http://news.scotsman.com/europeanunion/CIA-gives-grim-warning-on.2595505.jp

The average European couple now has fewer than 1.4 babies, compared to
3.6 babies born to the average Muslim immigrant couple in Europe.
Across Western Europe 16 to 20 percent of babies are being born into
Muslim families… By 2025, one-third of all European children will be
born to Muslims… In Italy, 95% of all rapists are Muslims. Eighty-five
percent of all murderers are Muslims… France will have a Muslim
majority in less than 25 years! Another telling statistic is that
although the Muslims are 12% of France's population, 70 percent of a
total of 60,775 prisoners in France are Muslims! All of France's urban
suburbs are being roamed by Muslim black African or Arabic gangs… A
very high proportion of French Muslims are in the underclass, that
segment of the population that relies not so much on education and
work as on welfare and predatory activities. In fact, over one
thousand Muslim neighborhoods are under monitoring throughout France.
Seven hundred of those Muslim neighborhoods are listed as "violent"
and nearly 400 hundred are listed as "very violent." Violence ranges
from rape (95% of rapists are Muslim), murder (85% of murderers are
Muslim), theft and looting of cars (58% committed by Muslims) and
street fighting to assault on teachers and civil servants… source:
http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html

Muslim per-capita arrest rate on terrorism-related charges in the
United States is 2.5 times higher than in Europe… If the United
States, despite the much better socio-economic standing of its
Muslims, suffers from 2.5 times more terrorism per capita than does
Europe, socio-economic improvements are unlikely to solve Europe's
problems. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=932DF90B-4644-49A7-A754-C263BF74DE9B

"Like children playing with dynamite, Western intellectuals,
journalists, and diplomats fantasize that they are achieving results
in the Middle East with their words, promises, apologies, money, and
concessions. Yet how can such innocents cope… with polities and
societies whose basic ruling ethos is that of the serial killer?… Can
anyone really expect a stable society capable of progress in Pakistan
when a large majority of the population expresses admiration for Usama
bin Ladin? And what about the Saudi system where, as one local writer
put it, the big Usama put into practice what the little Usama learned
in a Saudi school?… The radical forces in the region are not expecting
to retain or gain power by negotiating, compromising, or being better
understood. They believe they are going to shoot their way into power
or, just as good, accept the surrender of those they have intimidated.
That is why so much of the Western analysis and strategies for dealing
with the region are a bad joke." - Barry Rubin, source:
http://globalpolitician.com/articledes.asp?ID=3952&cid=6&sid=20

"Europe is being targeted for deliberate colonization by Muslim
states, and with coordinated efforts aimed at our Islamization and the
elimination of our freedoms. We are being subject to a foreign
invasion, and aiding and abetting a foreign invasion in any way
constitutes treason. If non-Europeans have the right to resist
colonization and desire self-determination then Europeans have that
right, too. And we intend to exercise it." - "Fjordman" source:
http://www.islam-watch.org/Fjordman/European-Declaration-Independence.htm

It is Islamic violence which threatens Holland and all of Europe.
Exactly as in the 1930s, it is the weakness of European leaders which
allows the threat to grow. Just as the League of Nations refused to
stand up to fascism in pre-WW2 Europe, the United Nations grovels
before Islam today. source: http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2414

"There does not exist an identifiable body of Muslims, substantive in
number or an outright majority, who could be described as "moderate"
by their repudiation of Muslim extremists. Violence has been an
integral part of Muslim history, irrespective of whether it is
sanctioned by Islam, and Muslims who unhesitatingly use violence to
advance their political ambitions have created a climate within their
faith culture that any Muslim who questions such practice is then
deemed apostate and subject to harm. Consequently, what might pass for
"moderate" Muslims, the large number of Muslims unaccounted for as to
what they think, in practical terms constitute a forest within which
extremists are incubated, nurtured, given ideological and material
support, and to which they return for sanctuary." - Salim Mansur

"A Muslim apostate once suggested to me a litmus test for Westerners
who believe that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance: try
making that point on a street corner in Ramallah, or Riyadh, or
Islamabad, or anywhere in the Muslim world. He assured me you wouldn't
live five minutes." source: http://citizenwarrior2.blogspot.com/2007/10/taqiyya-religious-deception.html

Muslim persecution of Christians: http://tinyurl.com/5rro8p
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/islams_global_war_against_chri.html

Young Talib beheads Ghulam Nabi: http://tinyurl.com/2rb2e3

Suppressing Discussion of Islam (85 minutes, 120 MB):
http://www.newcriterion.com/cm/webcast/wc_GZq4MHNn.mp3

Latest offerings from the religion of peace: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

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"Ramabriga" <Rama...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Story of a Muslim Revert Islam is the right Religion
> Tuesday, 08 July 2008 16:23
>
>
>
> Huda, Nadia and Selvi-all converts to Islam, standing outside the Taipei
> Grand Mosque in Taiwan, after a noon prayer service, said their faith had
> given them strength. It was a list of questions that brought Huda to the
> Taipei Grand Mosque. "Why can't they eat pork? Why must women cover up?
> And why, if men can take four wives, can't women take four husbands?"
> After enrolling in a six-week course on the fundamentals of Islam, she
> found her answers, and she found religion. "When I first heard about the
> course, I told myself, 'This is your time to learn something new.' I
> discovered how to live my life according to the Qur'aan, and now I feel
> very peaceful," she said.
>
> While stories of suicide attacks and beheadings permeate news coverage
> from Afghanistan and the Middle East, Taipei Grand Mosque Imam Ma
> Shiao-chi said the number of people visiting the mosque with questions
> about Islam had increased.


really how much different is this from kids exploring the moonies, the hare
krishnas, and the most famous of all cults, christianity

seriously, just hire a pile of deprogrammers, has everyone forgotten about
that

mk5000


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>
> "RFM" <Raid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cEY7k.134537$SV4....@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>>
>> "You can tell Bill Cosby to have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck
>> up."
>> --Richard Pryor
>>
>>
>> Classic. Pryor is my favorite comedian.
>> --RFM
>>
>
> Cosby was my dad's customer when Cosby was in college. nice guy. He's
> still touring and his concerts are great fun.
>
> mk5000
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "marika" <marik...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.games.war2,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:21 PM
> Subject: summer cut
>
>
>> thought you guys might find this article interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2008/06/09/lifestyle/columnists/doc484d9b6062203640678810.txt
>>
>> hompson: School's out, but don't forget teachers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not what you'd call an instructor.
>>
>> I don't even like to show people how to work their computer, let alone
>> summon the supernatural patience I've seen in the teachers I know.
>>
>> I am the daughter of a teacher, the niece of several teachers and the
>> friend of many more teachers, whose herculean efforts have made a
>> difference in more than a few lives.
>>
>> These are people who can make a tiny seed grow in a cup of dirt to teach
>> children how all living things deserve care and respect.
>>
>> These are people who know that some children are troubled in their home
>> lives; good teachers don't judge the bullies and gossips and weaklings in
>> their charge.
>>
>> These are people who break up fights between teenage boys who outweigh
>> them and tend to broken noses and trampled self-esteem - without losing
>> their cool.
>>
>> These are people who know how to make a chorus of little voices silent
>> and attentive with just a whisper.
>>
>> These are people who take on the enormous responsibility of accompanying
>> high-schoolers to other countries to learn about the world.
>>
>> These are people who offer their services long before 8 a.m. and long
>> past 3 p.m. to keep kids out of trouble.
>>
>> These are people who spend evening and summer hours devising ways to make
>> learning come naturally. (They often have second jobs, too.)
>>
>> These are people who buy supplies and teaching aids with their own money
>> to make their classrooms more useful.
>>
>> These are people who can sense when a child is falling behind and try to
>> make that child's world right.
>>
>> Folks, these are people who will read to a 6-year-old when his own
>> parents won't.
>>
>> These aren't rhetorical examples. These are real stories.
>>
>> I have been a student in the classes of many fabulous teachers who have
>> done things that, frankly, they deserved a bonus for. Who else would do
>> it, but a great teacher?
>>
>> My third-grade teacher, the very funny Mrs. Elstrom, spent a good 15
>> minutes in the nurse's office safety-
>>
>> pinning my pants back together after I split them right down the rear. I
>> hid in the bathroom in my underwear.
>>
>> My fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Davis, organized an after-school basketball
>> league. I never scored a single point, but he never let me sit on the
>> bench when I wanted to play. He even bought me a trophy when I won the
>> spelling bee. He played Bill Cosby LPs for us on rainy days, inspiring my
>> comic sensibilities.
>>
>> In high school, Mrs. Morrison published my poem in her book about writing
>> poetry. Forever after, I wanted to write what was on my mind.
>>
>> That doesn't even begin to tell the story of how a sad, timid kid from a
>> broken home became a happy, successful adult.
>>
>> And yes, I pay high, horrendously high property taxes in the county I
>> live in, despite the fact that I have no children. I know paying teachers
>> more - especially when you don't have kids - may irritate some folks. But
>> I believe it's my civic duty to contribute to the people who protect and
>> nurture our society: Firefighters, police officers, teachers, etc.
>>
>> I don't resent it.
>>
>> Besides, when I'm old, I want these well-educated kids to put me in the
>> most cushy, high-tech nursing home they have.
>>
>> The going rate for baby-sitters when I was a teenager 15 years ago was $2
>> an hour per kid. Believe me, when I babysat, nobody learned nothing.
>>
>> If you do a little math (30 kids an hour), you'll catch my drift.
>>
>> My favorite teacher story comes from a friend who works with visually
>> impaired children, many of them autistic or otherwise disabled.
>>
>> Some of her students were born without eyes and have prosthetics. At
>> least one of her students thinks it's funny to take his prosthetic eyes
>> out.
>>
>> How many teachers do you know who've ever uttered the phrase "Hey! Put
>> your eyes back in. (Sigh.) Nevermind, give me your eyes"?
>>
>> Somebody give that teacher a medal.
>>
>> . Jana Thompson can be reached at jtho...@nwnewsgroup.com.
>>
>>
>>
>

Civilized Man

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On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:22:21 -0500, Ramabriga <Rama...@gmail.com>
wrote:

.
. . Is Islam a religion? Or is that merely an idle claim.
. . Can Islam define the instinctive word "Religion" or "God"? Or
does Islam speak only a babel of undefined vernaculars that have no
published Definary?
. . Does Islam advocate obedience to the Laws of God? Or only
obedience to cult legislators?
. . Can Islam enumerate the Laws of God? Or does Islam quote only the
words of men.
. . Does Islam have a Moral Code and a Moral Agenda based on the
readily observed Facts of Life that would lead humanity to create a
Heaven On Earth? Or does Islam promise only a Hell on earth followed
by an impossible heaven after death?
. . Does Islam organize scientific economies based on the desires of
its members? Or does Islam operate only primitive investor-based
barter markets that use banker-manipulated currencies?
. . Does Islam urge the construction of ideal, organic,
self-sufficient, self-governing, population-limited, private civilized
cities that rise high above the ground like Man himself? Or does
Islam build only low, flat, sprawling, fragmented, landlord urbs like
those of insect colonies?
. . If Islam really desires to be a religion, its members must employ
the facts detailed in the revolutionary new Life Science book, "The
Octahedron, The Symbol Of Man, Blueprint For Civilization", published
by Amazon.com and MobiPocket.com, and follow the directions for
creating a scientific economy at
http://consumer-based-economy.blogspot.com.
. . Until it does, Islam will remain just another landlord devil cult
that deserves rejection and suppression.


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