Theevan = Mei (ATHTha)news.. Nainatheevu Monk..Double game..
nanthi
Every day in Canada, many theevu dogs expect some news of killing
of people from the main land.That is their capital for Eelam. Sometime
ago, they freely knocked the doors of Canadian Tamil homes and pretended
that they are LTTE and demanded money. Many people gave the money in
fear of reprisal. Now the Theevu dogs unable to knock the doors because
many tamils know that this Canadian Tigers are some low caste Theevu
dogs, who never be in the LTTE or in any Eelam organization.
During the peak time, these theevu dogs collected money and bought
properties and brought their kith and kin from Sl illegally.
One example: A man called Parameswaran who runs a Tamil News paper in
Canada in support of LTTE. This man was a former fund collector for WTM.
Now he settled well in Canada and brouht his sisters, brothers, and
parents into Canada. Long live Eelam!!!!
The funniest thing is that this man sends diary and other presents to
the Nainatheevu Buddhist monk. Why?
How is this double game?
asingam, and ansingam are also from Theevu. One of this fellow once
advertised in a news paper, which was published by another Theevu
fellow,that he is counsellor of immigration and refugee advisor. He
further stated that he can deal in all three languages. Do you think
that one of the language is French? NO. It was Sinhala.
I heard that these singams worked in Banana shops in Kollupitiya! Fraud
is the key for every theevu dog.. Some theevu dogs involved in smuggling
of humans into Canada in a big way.. These rascals tell the others that
you must support LTTE, becuse of their fight you are in Canada and have
a good life.. Well done theevan..
how is this Theevu philosophy..?
Theva
In article <3304C1...@myna.com>, nan...@myna.com says...
>
>Every day in Canada, many theevu dogs expect some news of killing
>of people from the main land.That is their capital for Eelam. Sometime
>ago, they freely knocked the doors of Canadian Tamil homes and pretended
>that they are LTTE and demanded money. Many people gave the money in
>fear of reprisal. Now the Theevu dogs unable to knock the doors because
>many tamils know that this Canadian Tigers are some low caste Theevu
>dogs, who never be in the LTTE or in any Eelam organization.
Last year a survey was done by the canadian company among the Tamils
living in Canada, in which 94% of them told that WTM is not forcely getting
money from the them, and also in another question the 87% Tamils in Canada
supports Tigers in their struggle towards the Tamil Elam.The survey done
by the independent Canadian company.
What's you problem with the thevu people are you jealous about those
people???
VULGAR DISPLAY OF POWER
>
>
> Last year a survey was done by the canadian company among the Tamils
> living in Canada, in which 94% of them told that WTM is not forcely getting
> money from the them, and also in another question the 87% Tamils in Canada
> supports Tigers in their struggle towards the Tamil Elam.The survey done
> by the independent Canadian company.
>
> What's you problem with the thevu people are you jealous about those
> people???
Bullshit. Name the canadian company which did the survey. Why the
heck would a private company will do such a survey on the tamils. If it is
true it's probably a company owned by the LTTE. They probably forced the
the tamils to say what they wanted to.
I can't believe you man. You're in the west and all safe. But you
contribute money so that the war can go in Lanka. There are 3 million and
one tamils in Lanka suffering because of you. There are crying for peace
and end to misery but you keep it going.
You are destroying the tamil culture man and you don't know it.
You better wake up and try to solve the problem. The tigers are not
interested in peace. They are only interested in a seperate land. If you
use your common sense, you would know that this is not going to happen.
And thus, you should seek out to end the war and bring peace. Then work
with others of Lanka to build up the nation economically and politically.
And thus tamils can enjoy a posperous life.
VULGAR DISPLAY OF POWER!!!!
Eezhamahan Guna
VULGAR DISPLAY OF POWER (@uottawa.ca) wrote:
: >
: >
: > Last year a survey was done by the canadian company among the Tamils
This guy is talking out of desperation...
Have you ever heard of the saying "kuddak kuddak kunipavan
madaiyan! kuniyak kuniyak kuduravanum madaiyan"(Those
who hit you on your head as you bend over is a fool just
like the fool who bends over because he is being hit.)
You are just one of those fools. You better
learn history man...You will never live in peace with
the Srilankan racist governments being continuously
elected for power. You think the Sri Lankan government
is for peace?.. You must talk to those people who
were in Eezham at that time to hear about the incidents
that they experienced that made them realize the true
interests of the Sl government in peace.
You speak bullshit...WTM never forces anyone to give
money and it is not possible in a democratic country
like Canada(unlike Srilanka). If LTTE owned the company
that did the survey, why would they not make the
percentage of people who answered in support of them
a 100%.Think once in your lifetime Mr.Megalomaniac.
Guna
: VULGAR DISPLAY OF POWER!!!!
nanthi
I always tell that you are one of the fund raising Theevu dog in the
name of Tamil.
Who did the survey? WTM sponsored some Tamils and they did the survey.
Are you thinking that you are a smart ass? WTM's leader Suresh
Manickkavasagar is still in the Jail for criminal charges. One is
demanding money.
WTM coolies knocked my door and demanded money.. not only that they said
that they would give a receipt with the signature of Prabhakaran.
You are a theevu asshole.. you never give money to WTM..but you make
money.. Sometime you may be one of the fellow who knocked my door. RCMP
and OPP has the complaint..
I am not jealous of anybody, but I expose the Theevu dogs and their
double game. Why are you silent on that?
You Theevu fellows are capable for coolie jobs only, not for any
politics.
Money making is your priority, no Eelam. In Canada, you rascals got
money in the name of eelam..and still barking in the hope of getting
more money. You too a theevu dog and you cannot be indiffernt.
You, theevu dog, tell us how your theevu dogs live without any complaint
with the Sl army in Theevu? How can you say that Tamils cannot live in
peace with the army, when your Theevu dogs live with the army without
any trouble?
This is the fifth year, the army in Theevus. For all these years your
Theevu dogs have no complaints against the army. How is that?
linus
Hi Guna
It was in this democratic Canada that your LTTE supporters
forces an independent Tamil newspaper to close because it was bold
enough to say that LTTE should talk with the SL govt. seriously
about peace.
It was also in this democratic Canada that your friends burned
a Tamil library here in Toronto because it was run by Tamil people
who were not supporting the LTTE.
Need I say more?
Eezhamahan Guna
linus (tan...@nts.ohn.hydro.on.ca) wrote:
: Hi Guna
Hello linus,
Why should someone close an independent newspaper
because of force? They can probably report to the
police. The truth is he did not have enough support from
the people to run the paper. Nobody wanted
to read his paper which did not exhibit their
views and the people realized that
it was acting as a false propaganda
machine for the SL government. I have
myself asked many of my friends to stop
buying that paper. But I never forced them to
do so and nobody has ever done that.
He tried to show himself as a mediator.
YOu should either be on this side or the other.
Neutrality in the matter of the ethnic conflict
in Sri lanka and Eelam is nothing but shit.
and he continuously displayed shit which
the people rejected.
As said by a missionary, "why do we want
neutrality when our people are being
blown to pieces in front of our eyes?
Why do we want neutrality when there
is no humanity left for our people?".
It is the same way
that majoriy of the Tamil people around the world
have rejected people like him and have continuously
showed their support for the Liberation fighters
of Eelam.
Now.. you tell me.. Need I say more?
Guna
Rajkumar Subramaniam
i can of course present few of evidences for those who acted as
representing ltte in Canada and destoyed the freedom of expressions.
I always disagree with someone who burns/destory medias who are
against ltte, Not only it is a criminat offense, also it will boost
our enemies propaganda war very successfully. So i was against it..but
still, some AK Gangs seems to fool around with CEYLON politics in Canada..
Again:
Actions of few can not be concluded as work of LTTE in
the Island Ceylon.
anpin
rajkumahrS
> Hello linus,
> Guna
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VULGAR DISPLAY OF POWER
> > This guy is talking out of desperation...
> > Have you ever heard of the saying "kuddak kuddak kunipavan
> > madaiyan! kuniyak kuniyak kuduravanum madaiyan"(Those
> > who hit you on your head as you bend over is a fool just
> > like the fool who bends over because he is being hit.)
> > You are just one of those fools. You better
> > learn history man...You will never live in peace with
> > the Srilankan racist governments being continuously
> > elected for power.
No i am sorry. I haven't heard this saying. i am neither pro
government nor i am licking anybody's bones. I am only intereted in peace
and totally oppose violence. ( used by both parties.) I have no respect
for murderers , rapist ,e.t.c.
I admit that the Lankan gov't has discrimminated the tamils in
the past and the armed forces have commited act of violence against the
tamils and still do so.
But compare this type of dicrimination to USA in the early 19
hundreds. The government made sure blacks have no high poition in
politics, ride in seperate buses from whites,seperate schools,
hospitals. When black churches were burned down and black people got their
ass kicked in by the KKK, the gov't ingored it.
Now before the war in lanka, tamils had high positions in
politics, were deans in the university. Several tamils engineers and
architecs led projects with sinhalese working under the tamils. Tamils
and sinhalese rode on the same bus and were able to go to same school.
Jaffna, where the majority of tamils lived was much better of than
the south,(not including capital city) where most of the sinhalese lived.
Also, tamils went to temple and prayed without any disturbances
like what happened in the US. Only time a tamil temple was burnt down for
racial reason was during the riots and the sinhalese man who burnt down
the temple committed sucide couple of days later.
In the US, Dr Martin.L.King led a non violent marches against the
racial dicrimination. A large majority of whites joined in the march with
the blacks, because they were inspired by his non violent ideology and his
speeches.
If the Ltte did the same thing, sinhalese would march along with
them ( considering the fact that several sinhalese risked thier own life
to protect the tamils during the riots.). However, they end up using
violence. That is why no sinhalese support them.
You think the Sri Lankan government
> > is for peace?.. You must talk to those people who
> > were in Eezham at that time to hear about the incidents
> > that they experienced that made them realize the true
> > interests of the Sl government in peace.
Yes. but, the jaffna people also know the murders of tamils who
oppose by tigers. Why do you always keep silent on this issue, whenever
someone brings it up. Is this what you want to live in. Unable to express
oneself. and if they try they get killed.
I said that tigers has only one thing on their mind. That is a
seperate land. I like to see a tamil land on the map. But how long will it
take? and you know there is is no answer to this question. But one thing
for sure, there is going to be a lot of sufferings and people ( mostly
tamils ) killed. I do not want that. That is why I said the war must end.
This message is not to the tigers only but the government also.
You are in the west. So it does not matter to you. You can keep
the war going. You will not suffer or get killed.
A tamil refugee in Lanka, said ' All the tamils who want Eelam are
in the west and all the tamils who don't want eelam are in refugee camps.'
I read this in the paper. So you see, the tamils are suffering because of
this 'Eelam or death' philosphy that you have. you should go back to Lanka
and take the suffering and see for your self. Then you will think whether
is worth getting ourselves killed.
> > You speak bullshit...WTM never forces anyone to give
> > money and it is not possible in a democratic country
> > like Canada(unlike Srilanka). If LTTE owned the company
> > that did the survey, why would they not make the
> > percentage of people who answered in support of them
> > a 100%.Think once in your lifetime Mr.Megalomaniac.
> >
Then can you please clarify why the police in Canada, as well as
Switzerland have records of numberous of complaints made by tamils about
this money collecting business and threats. This info is not made up by
the SL gov't. IT was printed many times by very reliable western magazines
who did research themselves and not by interviewing the SL embassy.
Also it was reported by the Toronto Star, that police concluded
their investigation that the murder of a tamil whose body was found washed
ashore in a lake was ltte related. The man supposely did not pay up. How
come you guys always keep silent on this issue.
If you are going to respond to this, please respond like a
decent human being while considering the above. I am not going to buy into
this 'Eelam or Death' thing. You may be in engineerig and I might just be
in social science. But I'm seem to be more smarter as I have analysed this
situation carefully before making my opinions. I didn't jump the band
wagon like you did and start screaming " Eelam or Death".
Also I checked the Ottwaw U tamil home page. Nothing is finished
there but I still saw the ltte propaganda. Have you checked the home page
of the Lankan tamil association of the Toronto university. There is no
propaganda. Just tamil culture and its members usually write about their
home country without mentioning eelam or its' fighters. They never pissed
on sri lanka and they also don't have eelam flag on their web site like
you have in Ottawa U.
Also Toronto U is full of bright tamils ( 85% and above to get
into engineering.)
And I am not a traitor to tamils. I am not alone. I have many
friends thank you. you called me desperate in an earlier post. Yes I am
desperate. Desperate for only one thing. That is to see the end of
sufferings of the tamils.
Regards,
VULGAR DISPLAY OF POWER!!!!
> > Guna
> >
> > : VULGAR DISPLAY OF POWER!!!!
> --------------------------------------------------------
Theva
>
>Hi Guna
>
>It was in this democratic Canada that your LTTE supporters
>forces an independent Tamil newspaper to close because it was bold
>enough to say that LTTE should talk with the SL govt. seriously
>about peace.
Mr. That news paper company couldn't able to sell their newspaper, he
started the newspaper and wrote good stuff about our struggle and continued
write that way( that time he sold many issues) but suddenly started to turn
the other way and that's when Jaffna came under the control of the govt, i
guess he thought that is the end of our struggle and in people even rumoured
he is doing boss work for the srilankan govt. That's the end of his news
paper, people started to boycott his newspaper and he couldn't afford to
continue his buisness, so to escape from that he blamed on the WTM (Tamil
organization), the real truth is he could't able to continue with the
anti-Tamil struggle Sentiments so he stopped it and there are two other
newspaper like him came to stand but couldn't able to continue because of
their anti-Tamil Tiger struggle stand they never blamed on WTM, but he did,
you know what he is doing now writing for the srilankan newspaper and for the
famous "HINDU" "FRONTLINE" newspaper group who having a history of anti-Tamil
struggle sentiments. Every thing base on self interest not commumnity base
interest.
Paul
linus wrote:
> Hi Guna
>
> It was in this democratic Canada that your LTTE supporters
> forces an independent Tamil newspaper to close because it was bold
> enough to say that LTTE should talk with the SL govt. seriously
> about peace.
>
> It was also in this democratic Canada that your friends burned
> a Tamil library here in Toronto because it was run by Tamil people
> who were not supporting the LTTE.
>
> Need I say more?
It is a great insult to the law enforcement authorities
of Canada. People come here because of high quality of life
that includes freedom of expression and protection to do your
commercial and social activities without any intimidation.
I feel that Linus wants to deliberately tarnish the image of
the best country in the world in living standards, Canada.
Did this news paper owner complained to the Police ?
Why didn't police provide protection and arrest those who
were responsible for that ?
Didn't police arrest those who burnt the library and ordered
compansation and protection for that libarary ?
In my understanding, these accusations are all wrong, and by
people who have no understanding of the law and order situation
in these countries.
What I heard was, that news paper comapny went bankrupt after
people stopped buying that. It lost business after it started
supporting Sri Lanka government, and company went bankrupt.
To save the face, in last edition the owner said that he stopped
publishing because LTTE forced him to do so. He never proved
the allegation.
I heard that the library was burnt by the owners to get the insurence.
May be some investigation is going on in that direction now.
nanthi
Paul,
You are another Moron. The library was not insured against any fire, or
any accidents. The news paper was forcefully stopped, because the Tamil
Traders, majority of them from Theevu and LTTE supporters. This is
another Theevu dogs gimmick.
Police still look for culprits who burnt the library. If you want to
know ask the Metro crime branch of OPP.
Piragalathan Suresh Balendra
> > : You are destroying the tamil culture man and you don't know it.
> > : You better wake up and try to solve the problem. The tigers are not
> > : interested in peace. They are only interested in a seperate land. If you
> > : use your common sense, you would know that this is not going to happen.
Why is it impossible? Does the Gov't want to confine the tamils?
> > : And thus, you should seek out to end the war and bring peace. Then work
> > : with others of Lanka to build up the nation economically and politically.
> : And thus tamils can enjoy a posperous life
Can they really? what do you mean by prosperous life .. murders, rapes...
> enough to say that LTTE should talk with the SL govt. seriously
> about peace.
The gov't wants to annihilate the Tamils if possible. How can one ever
talk about peace?
Sitha
Meenaradchagan Vishnu
In article <330866...@nts.ohn.hydro.on.ca>,
linus <tan...@nts.ohn.hydro.on.ca> wrote:
>Hi Guna
>
>It was in this democratic Canada that your LTTE supporters
>forces an independent Tamil newspaper to close because it was bold
>about peace.
>
>a Tamil library here in Toronto because it was run by Tamil people
>who were not supporting the LTTE.
>
>Need I say more?
There is a Tamil newspaper in Toronto called namnaadu. One day, the
editor of this paper received two visitors, a Canadian and a Tamil.
They offered to help the paper financially, if the editor agreed to
print what they provide. The editor, being a man of principle, prompty
refused and published this incident in his paper.
On the other hand, I think D. B. S. Jeyaraj of Manjari accepted the
money and was forced to publish what the agents of the SL government
provided. The Tamil community as whole, especially the business
community, rejected his paper and he went out of business.
About the burning of thEdakam library, I think it was done by agents of
the SL government to tarnish the image of Tamil people in Toronto. But
unfortunately it did not work. The incident received very little, if
any, coverage in the local and international media.
Meenan Vishnu
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah
Casey S. wrote:
> In my belief if LTTE want's t really do a favor for the tamil
> peole they should stop the blood fights and surrender
> themselves to the Sri Lankan army.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A bunch of Holy-Angels?
> C.S.
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah
Casey S. wrote:
>
> Raj,
>
> You seem to me like another LTTE member spreading lies
> about the true situation in Northern parts of Sri Lanka. The
> situation is LTTE is not fighting for the tamil people, but for
> power. They are just a bunch of power hungry maniacs
> who are willing to commit any brutal act to gain their
> objective.
>
> In my belief if LTTE want's t really do a favor for the tamil
> peole they should stop the blood fights and surrender
> themselves to the Sri Lankan army.
The more you speak the less you know.
> Then some other
> non-political commitee who has never been involved in
> terrorism (unlike PLOTE or EPDP) should represent the
> tamils in the discussions. This commitee should be chosen
> by some democratic means. The muslim community also
> should be allowed to be represented in these discussions.
>
> The discussions should be aimed at uniting all the races and
> guiding Sri Lanka towards the year 2000. This would be the
> only way to achieve prosperity to Sri Lanka, THe homeland of
> all of us.
>
> C.S.
My Lord, please forgive this soul. He does not know on which issue he
knows atleast 'A.'
Rizi
Casey S.
Raj,
You seem to me like another LTTE member spreading lies
about the true situation in Northern parts of Sri Lanka. The
situation is LTTE is not fighting for the tamil people, but for
power. They are just a bunch of power hungry maniacs
who are willing to commit any brutal act to gain their
objective.
In my belief if LTTE want's t really do a favor for the tamil
peole they should stop the blood fights and surrender
themselves to the Sri Lankan army. Then some other
non-political commitee who has never been involved in
terrorism (unlike PLOTE or EPDP) should represent the
tamils in the discussions. This commitee should be chosen
by some democratic means. The muslim community also
should be allowed to be represented in these discussions.
The discussions should be aimed at uniting all the races and
guiding Sri Lanka towards the year 2000. This would be the
only way to achieve prosperity to Sri Lanka, THe homeland of
all of us.
C.S.
Rajkumar Subramaniam <rsub...@chat.carleton.ca> wrote in article
<5ea61s$s...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>...
linus
Paul wrote:
>
> linus wrote:
> STUFF DELETED
> It is a great insult to the law enforcement authorities
> of Canada. People come here because of high quality of life
> that includes freedom of expression and protection to do your
> commercial and social activities without any intimidation.
>
> I feel that Linus wants to deliberately tarnish the image of
> the best country in the world in living standards, Canada.
>
> Did this news paper owner complained to the Police ?
> Why didn't police provide protection and arrest those who
> were responsible for that ?
> Didn't police arrest those who burnt the library and ordered
> compansation and protection for that libarary ?
>
> In my understanding, these accusations are all wrong, and by
> people who have no understanding of the law and order situation
> in these countries.
>
> What I heard was, that news paper comapny went bankrupt after
> people stopped buying that. It lost business after it started
> supporting Sri Lanka government, and company went bankrupt.
> To save the face, in last edition the owner said that he stopped
> publishing because LTTE forced him to do so. He never proved
> the allegation.
>
> I heard that the library was burnt by the owners to get the insurence.
> May be some investigation is going on in that direction now.
It is common knowledge in the Sri Lankan community in Toronto (both
Singhalese and Tamil) that the paper folded after the shopkeepers who
were distributing the paper were intimidated by the LTTE supporters not
to carry the paper.
As for me tarnishing the image of Canada, I think you should read the
Toronto newspapers last few years carefully and check out the names
of some of the people who were arrested for various illigal activities
like manufacturing false passports and visas (both SL and Canadian), gang
fights in the city's east end and so on. They you will realise for
yourself who is really tarnishing this country's image and abusing
the hospitality and the compassion offered to them by Canada.
You say the library was burnt by the owners to get insurance. What we
heard is that the library was not insured against anything. You people
who go on and on about how the SL army burnt the Jaffna library should
look at your own faces in the mirror and think about what your are saying
now. Or may be it is OK to burn books when it is done by your side?
Eezhamahan Guna
linus (tan...@nts.ohn.hydro.on.ca) wrote:
The problems you are talking about here are not just
the problems in the Tamil community. It is
found in the diverse communities found in Toronto.
How the hell do many Sinhalese claim refugee status
in Canada?
: You say the library was burnt by the owners to get insurance. What we
: heard is that the library was not insured against anything. You people
: who go on and on about how the SL army burnt the Jaffna library should
: look at your own faces in the mirror and think about what your are saying
: now. Or may be it is OK to burn books when it is done by your side?
Look here pal.. First of all, it was not concluded on who
did the burning. If you are going to make the burning
of the library with few books such a big issue( of course,
for your propaganda purposes), will it be possible for
you to give us back the tons and tons of Tamil books
that the SInhalese thugs burnt in the Jaffna library.
These books are historical evidence of Tamil literature and
are immeasurable in value. All the way along,
this is the way the racist Sinhalese have distorted
history, burnt historical evidence and made them the
masters of Tamil land. But not any more... of this.
Guna
Suchetha
you know something linus
i think guna just said that it was ok for them to burn a few books
while the sinhalese cannot do so
personally i feel that books are precious things and i strongly oppose
anyone who burns them
in the words of Voltaire "I may not agree with your opinion, but i will
fight to the death for your right to have it"
feel the same way about books
ultimately they are the best resources we have and i strongly condemn
any burning of them, whether one or many, whether they were old or new,
by ANY side
suchetha
vino shanmugarajah
> suchetha
suchetha! Did you condemn when the Jaffna main library was burned by your
barbarians?
suchetha
vino shanmugarajah wrote:
>
> Suchetha (such...@hotmail.com) wrote:
> > Eezhamahan Guna wrote:
> > >
> > > linus (tan...@nts.ohn.hydro.on.ca) wrote:
--------8<----SNIP---->8--------
vino i was 10 years old when that happened
i had no understanding of the situation then
later when i was much older i was saddened to hear of all the important
literature that was destroyed with it
i got on the net a year ago
i already said that i oppose any burning of books
in that case let mesay this
"I STRONGLY CONDEMN THE BURNING DOWN OF THE JAFFNA LIBRARY, THE TAMIL
LIBRARY IN CANADA AND ANY OTHER BOOK REPOSITORY DESTROYED FOR POLITICAL
PURPOSES. YES, EVEN THE LIBRARY OF ALEXANDRIA"
does that make you feel better?
it doesn't make me feel better cos i know that as long as there are
zealots there will be libaries burned
peace
suchetha
ps did anyone read Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury?
Theva
In article <330B00...@nts.ohn.hydro.on.ca>, tan...@nts.ohn.hydro.on.ca
says...
This is a democractic country, if shopkeeper doesn't want to carry
the papers why should LTTE supporters draged in to this problem, the Tamil
people are whole heartly supporting LTTE, people don't want to see this kind
of propaganda against their sentiments. First of all the shopkeepers are more
intelligent they would never allow them show as a anti-Tamil sentiments by
providing those papers because they would be running out of buisness it won't
make sense for their investment, the general people wish is very well known
across the world, supporter of the Tamil Elam struggle.
>As for me tarnishing the image of Canada, I think you should read the
>Toronto newspapers last few years carefully and check out the names
>of some of the people who were arrested for various illigal activities
>like manufacturing false passports and visas (both SL and Canadian), gang
>fights in the city's east end and so on. They you will realise for
>yourself who is really tarnishing this country's image and abusing
>the hospitality and the compassion offered to them by Canada.
>
Out of 175,000 Tamils in Canada there would be some bad fruits, these
few people are carrying out individual and personal attacks as a gangs, these
type of people are in all community if you take Italian, Greek, Indian,
Spanish, Jamaican every community have there fair share of bad fruits, So
thats type of human face are in the earth in every community. What tarnishing
Srilankan Image ? Oh you people have a image too ? Image is shown by the
Srilankan singhala govt by making tamil people refugees in their own home
land !! Isn't that image you people have all over the world ? You can see the
40% drop in the foreign tourist arrivals to Srilanka fearing that it is
unsecured.That's the image you Srilankan Singhalese got all over the
world.American federal govt, British tourist board and other tourist board
advised their country men not to travel to SRILANKA because of the unsolved
problem between Tamils and Singhalese.So your image pretty well showed around
the world by your Singhala politicians as a UNSECURED COUNTRY.
>You say the library was burnt by the owners to get insurance. What we
>heard is that the library was not insured against anything. You people
>who go on and on about how the SL army burnt the Jaffna library should
>look at your own faces in the mirror and think about what your are saying
>now. Or may be it is OK to burn books when it is done by your side?
You remember Jaffna library ah ? That's the symbol for our Tamil struggle.
You singhala racists destroyed our finest library with full of Tamil
culture.
Are you comparing that and this ? Here some idiots used that space in the
name of culture activities to get assistance from the govt cultural dep, and
after that they created a situation to show case the public like that, you
should be so idiotic to compare Jaffna libray and this ?
Umberto Gui
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
>
> Casey S. wrote:
> >
> > Raj,
> >
> > You seem to me like another LTTE member spreading lies
> > about the true situation in Northern parts of Sri Lanka. The
> > situation is LTTE is not fighting for the tamil people, but for
> > power. They are just a bunch of power hungry maniacs
> > who are willing to commit any brutal act to gain their
> > objective.
> >
> > In my belief if LTTE want's t really do a favor for the tamil
> > peole they should stop the blood fights and surrender
> > themselves to the Sri Lankan army.
>
>
> > non-political commitee who has never been involved in
> > terrorism (unlike PLOTE or EPDP) should represent the
> > tamils in the discussions. This commitee should be chosen
> > by some democratic means. The muslim community also
> > should be allowed to be represented in these discussions.
> >
> > The discussions should be aimed at uniting all the races and
> > guiding Sri Lanka towards the year 2000. This would be the
> > only way to achieve prosperity to Sri Lanka, THe homeland of
> > all of us.
> >
> > C.S.
>
> knows atleast 'A.'
>
> Rizi
Ah! the all knowing, all seeing great Guru speaks. But , did you not try
to cross swords with me about Trincomalee and had to back off rapidly
like your masters who ran into the jungle. You proved yourself as another
Tamil bullshitter who talks a lot and tells everyone of his intellect in
order to cover up his ignorance.
Think Trincomalee.
UMBERTO GUI
1
Umberto Gui
Meenaradchagan Vishnu wrote:
>
> In article <330866...@nts.ohn.hydro.on.ca>,
> linus <tan...@nts.ohn.hydro.on.ca> wrote:
> >Hi Guna
> >
> >It was in this democratic Canada that your LTTE supporters
> >about peace.
> >
> >It was also in this democratic Canada that your friends burned
> >a Tamil library here in Toronto because it was run by Tamil people
> >who were not supporting the LTTE.
> >
> >Need I say more?
>
> There is a Tamil newspaper in Toronto called namnaadu. One day, the
> editor of this paper received two visitors, a Canadian and a Tamil.
> They offered to help the paper financially, if the editor agreed to
> print what they provide. The editor, being a man of principle, prompty
> refused and published this incident in his paper.
>
> On the other hand, I think D. B. S. Jeyaraj of Manjari accepted the
> money and was forced to publish what the agents of the SL government
> provided. The Tamil community as whole, especially the business
> community, rejected his paper and he went out of business.
>
> About the burning of thEdakam library, I think it was done by agents of
> the SL government to tarnish the image of Tamil people in Toronto. But
> unfortunately it did not work. The incident received very little, if
> any, coverage in the local and international media.
>
> Meenan Vishnu
So, you are afraid of negative pulicity, eh?
Don't worry, I will make up for all the time we have lost.
UMBERTO GUI
1
Umberto Gui
Piragalathan Suresh Balendra wrote:
>
> > > : You are destroying the tamil culture man and you don't know it.
> > > : You better wake up and try to solve the problem. The tigers are not
> > > : interested in peace. They are only interested in a seperate land. If you
> > > : use your common sense, you would know that this is not going to happen.
>
> Why is it impossible? Does the Gov't want to confine the tamils?
Why all this confinement? Are you guys all pregnant?
>
> > > : And thus, you should seek out to end the war and bring peace. Then work
> > > : with others of Lanka to build up the nation economically and politically.
> > : And thus tamils can enjoy a posperous life
>
> Can they really? what do you mean by prosperous life .. murders, rapes...
Are there no murders , rapes in other societies?
>
> > enough to say that LTTE should talk with the SL govt. seriously
> > about peace.
>
> The gov't wants to annihilate the Tamils if possible. How can one ever
> talk about peace?
>
> Sitha
There is no one who wishes to annihiliate anybody. The devil is in your
mind and it has been put there by your communal politicians and leaders.
You are from Jaffna, living an isolated life, and suspicious of the
Sinhalese, while a majority of Tamils live amongst the Sinhalese in
Sinhalese areas. I can tell you that the Sinhalese are far more tolerant
and compassionate than the Tamils. Thats why more Tamils live in Sinhala
areas and why no other minority lives amongst the Tamils in the North. If
you want to see the devil, look in the mirror.
UMBERTO GUI
Umberto Gui
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
>
> Casey S. wrote:
>
> > In my belief if LTTE want's t really do a favor for the tamil
> > peole they should stop the blood fights and surrender
> > themselves to the Sri Lankan army.
> A bunch of Holy-Angels?
>
> > C.S.
yes, and the soldiers of Democracy.
They have proved the blessings of the gods, because the almighty has
delivered Jaffna to the rightous LIONHEARTS and condemned the Tamil
Terrorist pagans to eternal damnation.
WE ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE.
YOU ARE CHOSEN TO BULLSHIT, ADMINISTER FILLING STATIONS IN THE WEST AND
DOMINATE REFUGEE CAMPS IN THE EAST.
THE WILL OF GOD!
AMEN
UMBERTO GUI
nanthi
This is a free country not to do any crime. Your WTM and LTTE dogs
intimidated many shop keepers in Canada and broke the glasses of Shankar
& co at Kennedy. Why? You are talking about "FREE will". You are not
free
in Canada to intimidate others.
Why is your WTM chief Suresh Manickkavasagar in Don Jail? He exercised
too much of FREEDOM! Eh!
We will lockup many Tamil Criminals in Canadian jails soon...
nanthi
> : Toronto newspapers last few years carefully and check out the names
> : of some of the people who were arrested for various illigal activities
> : like manufacturing false passports and visas (both SL and Canadian), gang
> : fights in the city's east end and so on. They you will realise for
> : yourself who is really tarnishing this country's image and abusing
> : the hospitality and the compassion offered to them by Canada.
>
> the problems in the Tamil community. It is
> found in the diverse communities found in Toronto.
> How the hell do many Sinhalese claim refugee status
> in Canada?
>
> : heard is that the library was not insured against anything. You people
> : who go on and on about how the SL army burnt the Jaffna library should
> : look at your own faces in the mirror and think about what your are saying
> : now. Or may be it is OK to burn books when it is done by your side?
>
> did the burning. If you are going to make the burning
> of the library with few books such a big issue( of course,
> for your propaganda purposes), will it be possible for
> you to give us back the tons and tons of Tamil books
> that the SInhalese thugs burnt in the Jaffna library.
> These books are historical evidence of Tamil literature and
> are immeasurable in value. All the way along,
> this is the way the racist Sinhalese have distorted
> history, burnt historical evidence and made them the
> masters of Tamil land. But not any more... of this.
>
> Guna
More than 60% of the books in the Jaffna library were dumped by the
American Information Centre which was closed after egg throwing at the
American Ambassodor for the involvement in Vienam war in Jaffna. The
other books avalable in Colombo library or in the Archives. Can these
fellows tell a single Tamil History book which is not available in the
world? No History book of Jaffna is written in Tamil.
UNP thugs burned Jaffna library, but these Tamils still want the UNP in
power. Thi is the fun.
Eezhamahan Guna
Umberto Gui (nm...@dial.pipex.com) wrote:
: Piragalathan Suresh Balendra wrote:
: >
: > > > : You are destroying the tamil culture man and you don't know it.
: > > > : You better wake up and try to solve the problem. The tigers are not
: > > > : interested in peace. They are only interested in a seperate land. If you
: > > > : use your common sense, you would know that this is not going to happen.
: >
: > Why is it impossible? Does the Gov't want to confine the tamils?
: Why all this confinement? Are you guys all pregnant?
: >
: > > > : And thus, you should seek out to end the war and bring peace. Then work
: > > > : with others of Lanka to build up the nation economically and politically.
: > > : And thus tamils can enjoy a posperous life
: >
: > Can they really? what do you mean by prosperous life .. murders, rapes...
: Are there no murders , rapes in other societies?
: >
: > > enough to say that LTTE should talk with the SL govt. seriously
: > > about peace.
: >
: > The gov't wants to annihilate the Tamils if possible. How can one ever
: > talk about peace?
: >
: > Sitha
: There is no one who wishes to annihiliate anybody. The devil is in your
: mind and it has been put there by your communal politicians and leaders.
: You are from Jaffna, living an isolated life, and suspicious of the
: Sinhalese, while a majority of Tamils live amongst the Sinhalese in
ha ha ha majority of the Tamils live in
Sinhala areas. It would seem so if
you colonize the Tamil areas. And after
a while, you tell them "oh...we were
living here for a century... Do you have
any proof you lived here?" What will they
say? you have already burned the evidence
in the form of books and historical evidence.
Go on and lie... you shameless liers of
the barbaric Srilankan government!!!!
Guna
: Sinhalese areas. I can tell you that the Sinhalese are far more tolerant
Eezhamahan Guna
Suchetha (such...@hotmail.com) wrote:
: you know something linus
: i think guna just said that it was ok for them to burn a few books
I never said that is was ok to burn
books. But you guys make this burning
a bigger issue while the burning of the
Jaffna library with tons of thousands times
more books remains a smaller issue for you
who try to make use of this for your
propaganda purposes.
You got it?
Guna
: while the sinhalese cannot do so
Eezhamahan Guna
nanthi (nan...@myna.com) wrote:
oh... I am afraid... the RCMP official nanthi is going
to put me in jail soon....You are nothing but a kind
of manthi(kurangu)
Guna
vino shanmugarajah
yna.com>
Distribution:
> Theva wrote:
> -----------------------------------------
> This is a free country not to do any crime. Your WTM and LTTE dogs
> intimidated many shop keepers in Canada and broke the glasses of Shankar
> & co at Kennedy. Why? You are talking about "FREE will". You are not
> free> in Canada to intimidate others.
DO YOU REALLY KNOW THAT THE GLASSES OF SHANKAR & CO AT KENNEDY ROAD WERE
BROKEN BY WTM. I AM VERY CLOSE FRIEND OF SRI, OWNER OF THE SHANKAR &CO
AND I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. IT WAS THE WORK OF SOME PHONEY TAMIL
YOUTHS WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT LTTE. YOU ARE TRYING TO SPREAD SOME FALSE
NEWS HERE. IF YOU WANT MORE DETAILS REGARDING THIS MANNER COME TO SHNKAR & CO
ON MONDAY EVENING (FEB.24,97), WE CAN DISCUSS ABOUT IT.
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah
nanthi wrote:
> More than 60% of the books in the Jaffna library were dumped by the
> American Information Centre which was closed after egg throwing at the
> American Ambassodor for the involvement in Vienam war in Jaffna. The
> other books avalable in Colombo library or in the Archives. Can these
> fellows tell a single Tamil History book which is not available in the
> world? No History book of Jaffna is written in Tamil.
the Jaffna library was in the original palmyrah leaves and was saying
the jaffna & tamil history. Friend, you may have problems with LTTE,
caste and theevu tamils, but do not degrade yourself to to this extent
to justify the burning of a library (which even, Hilter refused to do in
France when captured).
This was done under the supervision of "good family bockground and good
education contenting (look Mr. Wilfred from Uni. Of Melbourne)" Gamini
Dissanayake.
Rizi
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah
Umberto Gui wrote:
>
> Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
> Ah! the all knowing, all seeing great Guru speaks. But , did you not try
> to cross swords with me about Trincomalee and had to back off rapidly
> like your masters who ran into the jungle. You proved yourself as another
> Tamil bullshitter who talks a lot and tells everyone of his intellect in
> order to cover up his ignorance.
>
> Think Trincomalee.
>
> UMBERTO GUI
>
> 1
Dear fellow,
Have you not seen all of my postings lately? Then, it is not my fault
that you do not know who won in the fencing over Trincomalee. Keeping
silence on that thread and Guishitting here does not make sense (Ah!
that is way you usually make (non)sense). I never claimed that I'm an
intellectual (do not degrade me; I think, I'm a genious (Is this Jaffna
Tamil correct in his spelling, my master?).
By the way, my master is not in the jungle. My master Marx passed away
before one century.
Have another thread of Guishitting.
Rizi
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah
Umberto Gui wrote:
>
> Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
> >
Is this your self-written last-will at the fall end of lunacy or what?
> AMEN
>
> UMBERTO GUI
nanthi
You are another demoralised slave dog. Why should you think that RCMP
will come after you, if you are a clean Canadian? So indirectly you
agree that you are a Theevu dog and involved in fund raising for LTTE...
nanthi
vino shanmugarajah wrote:
>
> yna.com>
> Distribution:
>
> > Theva wrote:
> > -----------------------------------------
>
> > This is a free country not to do any crime. Your WTM and LTTE dogs
> > intimidated many shop keepers in Canada and broke the glasses of Shankar
> > & co at Kennedy. Why? You are talking about "FREE will". You are not
> > free> in Canada to intimidate others.
> BROKEN BY WTM. I AM VERY CLOSE FRIEND OF SRI, OWNER OF THE SHANKAR &CO
> AND I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. IT WAS THE WORK OF SOME PHONEY TAMIL
> YOUTHS WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT LTTE. YOU ARE TRYING TO SPREAD SOME FALSE
> NEWS HERE. IF YOU WANT MORE DETAILS REGARDING THIS MANNER COME TO SHNKAR & CO
> ON MONDAY EVENING (FEB.24,97), WE CAN DISCUSS ABOUT IT.
>
> > too much of FREEDOM! Eh!
>
> > We will lockup many Tamil Criminals in Canadian jails soon...
Ok1 I will come and you should be prepared to come to the OPP to give
some evidence. I will arrange that for you.
nanthi
you are an idiot that Yalpana Vaipava Malai was published in paper some
70 years ago! There was no OLA manuscripts were in the Jaffna Library. I
used that Libraty for more tha fifteen years and I never come across any
of OLA manuscripts of any book in Jaffna Library.
Further, do you know that one Sabalingam was killed by LTTE for writing
Jaffna history? He was published again the Yalapana Vaiva malai.
Important thing is this YVM is not considered as a history book at all.
This was written by a Mailvaganam of Mathagal during the Dutch period.
He copied the informations from the KAILAYA MAALAI.
DO YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY FUCKER KNOW THIS BOOK? THERE IS NO
HISTORICAL VALIDITY FOR THIS BOOK, EXCEPT FEW INFORMATIONS.
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah
nanthi wrote:
> --------------------------
> you are an idiot that Yalpana Vaipava Malai was published in paper some
> 70 years ago! There was no OLA manuscripts were in the Jaffna Library. I
> used that Libraty for more tha fifteen years and I never come across any
> of OLA manuscripts of any book in Jaffna Library.
>
> Further, do you know that one Sabalingam was killed by LTTE for writing
> Jaffna history? He was published again the Yalapana Vaiva malai.
>
> Important thing is this YVM is not considered as a history book at all.
> This was written by a Mailvaganam of Mathagal during the Dutch period.
> He copied the informations from the KAILAYA MAALAI.
>
> DO YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY FUCKER KNOW THIS BOOK? THERE IS NO
> HISTORICAL VALIDITY FOR THIS BOOK, EXCEPT FEW INFORMATIONS.
historical validity. Interesting; BTW, I never claimed that I'm the only
one knows about it, and that's why I came to write about its writing in
'Olai' for sure here.
Thanks for the compliments at the start and at the end.Anyway, I
appreciate it; You are always talking about caste. o.k; 'kulaththaLava
AkumAm kuNam.'
Rizi
nanthi
Kantha Puranam was written 10 centuries ago. Can you tell any historical
points in that book?
Kulaththalave Akumam Kunam.. true.. you started as a moderate tamil..Now
you are a LTTE barker.. Theevu low caste colours are coming out..
linus
> : Toronto newspapers last few years carefully and check out the names
> : of some of the people who were arrested for various illigal activities
> : like manufacturing false passports and visas (both SL and Canadian), gang
> : fights in the city's east end and so on. They you will realise for
> : yourself who is really tarnishing this country's image and abusing
> : the hospitality and the compassion offered to them by Canada.
>
> the problems in the Tamil community. It is
> found in the diverse communities found in Toronto.
> How the hell do many Sinhalese claim refugee status
> in Canada?
>
> : heard is that the library was not insured against anything. You people
> : who go on and on about how the SL army burnt the Jaffna library should
> : look at your own faces in the mirror and think about what your are saying
> : now. Or may be it is OK to burn books when it is done by your side?
>
> did the burning. If you are going to make the burning
> of the library with few books such a big issue( of course,
> for your propaganda purposes), will it be possible for
> you to give us back the tons and tons of Tamil books
> that the SInhalese thugs burnt in the Jaffna library.
> These books are historical evidence of Tamil literature and
> are immeasurable in value. All the way along,
> this is the way the racist Sinhalese have distorted
> history, burnt historical evidence and made them the
> masters of Tamil land. But not any more... of this.
>
> Guna
Hi Guna,
Burning books is bad whether it is done by SL govt.
in Jaffna or by somebody in Toronto. I was appalled when
the Jaffna library was burnt. I hope one day the Jaffna
library will be restored to the extent that is possible and
I hope the SL govt. will take a lead initiative to do it.
Kathiravan
In article <330D91...@myna.com>, nanthi <nan...@myna.com> writes:
|> Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
|> >
|> > nanthi wrote:
|> >
|> > > --------------------------
|> > > you are an idiot that Yalpana Vaipava Malai was published in paper some
|> > A book written (you mean, published, not,"Olai') in dutch period, has no
|> > historical validity. Interesting; BTW, I never claimed that I'm the only
|> > one knows about it, and that's why I came to write about its writing in
|> > 'Olai' for sure here.
|> > Thanks for the compliments at the start and at the end.Anyway, I
|> > appreciate it; You are always talking about caste. o.k; 'kulaththaLava
|> > AkumAm kuNam.'
|> > Rizi
|> ----------------------------
|>
|> Kantha Puranam was written 10 centuries ago. Can you tell any historical
|> points in that book?
|>
|> Kulaththalave Akumam Kunam.. true.. you started as a moderate tamil..Now
|> you are a LTTE barker.. Theevu low caste colours are coming out.
I think you should equip yourselves better to
work for the propaganda you are involved with.
You fumbled with muthali before.
Now with kulam. Study auwwai in full.
Think. Don't just write theevu dog
if somebody criticizes you.
kulam is not birth based caste.
Though you claim to come from a
high birth based caste you are
the most indecent low kulam I
have come across in the net.
neethi vazhuvaa neRi muRaiyil
ittaar periyaar; ittaathar izhi
kulaththaar.
paattaaNGkil uLLapadi.
Explain the meaning or else
start you personal fuming about my
low-caste. If you cannot try asking
Tamil scholars in Toronto. Tamil is
not simply a paper back novel (
quoting you)
Rajah Skandarajah
nanthi wrote:
> Ok1 I will come and you should be prepared to come to the OPP to give
> some evidence. I will arrange that for you.
Perfect. I will be there too. Nanthi, this is a good
time for you to give me those names and addresses.
Lets see if you keep your word.
Rajah.
nanthi
What is your problem in Sri Lanka? I think you are the partner of
Ilagupillai in the Ottawa Tamil Sangam. This is the only reason you have
to talk against Sri Lankan Buddhists. How much you earned by the way of
barking for Eelam with Ilagupillai? or Did Ilagupillai take everything?
You teach AUVVAI to your self and to other Tamils, not to me.
I am proud to say that I belong to a Pallava warrior clan(Muthalis=Great
Siru Thondar who lead the forces against VATAPI. Sri Lankan Prince
ManaVarma too joined hands with Siru Thondar in the expedition.They
defeated Pulikesi(?). Now Siru Thondar is revered by all hindu Tamils as
a saint. This is only an example). Muthalis have more to their record,
not like you.
I did not fumble like you. You are another cheat join hands with
Ilagupillai. Is that not fumbling? You can't open your mouth, because
Ilagupillai's criminal nephew will look after!
Propaganda! You are an Indian Tamil fellow. You bark for LTTE and
against all the Tamil Nadu Upper Castes. Isn't this a propaganda? If you
talk for the suffering Indian Tamils, you are a reasonable man, but what
are you doing?
I am not against Tamil, because my ancestors spilled blood and saved the
glory of Tamils. In Tamil Nadu too you have no authenticated history
books of the Tamil Nadu except few.
Film script writers are the historians in your Tamil nadu. End result
will be Sasikala and Jayalaitha like people. Their history...
Read Prof.Neelakanda Sastri's books. Oh!He was a brahman, so you refuse
to read the books written by him. Kalagnar MU.Ka's Payum PULI Pandaraka
Vannian is suitable for you.
Pathetic situation is you have join hands with the traitors of Jaffna
Kingdom. Jaffna Kingdom is the basic for all the EELAM claims..tell the
traitors of the Jaffna kigdom to ask their Eelam from Lisbon or
Amsterdam or London!
nanthi
You are not invited. What is the names and addresses you are looking
for?
Naren Subramanium
Eelamahan Guna wrote:
>Look here pal.. First of all, it was not concluded on who
>did the burning. If you are going to make the burning
>
Yeah, right!
You thikn nobody knows who killed Amirthalingam.
You think nobody knows who killed Rajiv
You think nobody knows who killed Rajani Thrinagama
But the people with common sense know man.
People know who burnt the Thedakam library.
>did the burning. If you are going to make the burning
>of the library with few books such a big issue( of course,
>for your propaganda purposes), will it be possible for
BURNING A LIBRARY IS BURNING A LIBRARY. WHO TOLD YOU THAT YOU CAN JUSTIFY
THE BURNING THE LIBRARY IF IT HAS ONLY A FEW BOOKS?
Whether it has a few books or a hundreds of thousands, burning is burning.
And the LTTE supporters BURNT this library,a nd you the vaals are trying
to cover it up. Good luck! May be you can fool some small children at day
care cneters that a 'Sri Lankan government agent' burnt this libary.
But not the average people in Canada, pal.
It is shame to burn the library, and it is more shameful to cover it up,
or justify saying ' OH! that library had only a few books!'
Naren Subramanium
ba...@idirect.com wrote:
> This is a democractic country, if shopkeeper doesn't want to
>carry
>the papers why should LTTE supporters draged in to this problem, the Tamil
>people are whole heartly supporting LTTE, people don't want to see this kind
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Balam,
May be you should read and learn something about democracy before you
spit your crap in public! You know it is a democratic country (Canada ,
that is). The fundamental principle in democracy is allowing the opposing
views. You say that in this democratic country the tamil people
'DON'T WANT SEE THIS KIND OF PROPAGANDA'. What kind of democracy is that?
Is this the kind of Democracy Pirabakaran invented?
According to 'YOUR DEMOCRACY', people don't want to see opposing views,
opinions and news items.
So, do all of us a favor, go back to the books, and read about true
democracy. You will eb suprdised how much you are missing in life!
Good Day !
Theva
>
>Burning books is bad whether it is done by SL govt.
>in Jaffna or by somebody in Toronto. I was appalled when
>the Jaffna library was burnt. I hope one day the Jaffna
>library will be restored to the extent that is possible and
>I hope the SL govt. will take a lead initiative to do it.
Mr. that is too late Singhala politicians are totally brain washed by
mahavamsa budhist nationality, Tamils are not stupid enough to get whatever
singhala politician's want's to give, Never in your life time young tamil's
would trust Singhala politician's, one must every body should remember
Prabhakaran only 17 when he join the Tamil movement, he had seen all the
Singhala astrocites against tamils and he is now 43 years old, now very well
matured enough, but still know's very will about the Singhala budhist
cheating politicians. The Jaffna library will allways our national struggle
symbol, the literature's and culutural identity we lost in that library is
not refundable, don't dream your self chandrika will refund that rare
treasure's in her life time.
Theva
Sri Lanks Military Plane Crashes
COLOMBO, Sri Lanka (AP) -- A military transport plane crashed into a
marsh on takeoff today, killing at least two people and injuring 35,
authorities and witnesses said.
The Russian-built An-32 was carrying troops from the capital, Colombo,
to a northern air base. The government has been battling Tamil rebels in
northern Sri Lanka since 1983.
Fifty-nine people were aboard.
The plane ``appeared to bounce off the runway, lost control and crashed
into the nearby marshy land,'' witness Somadasa Weerasena said.
The nose of the plane was submerged in mud just 300 yards from the air
base.
A military official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said engine
trouble may have been to blame.
Theva
Recent military operation gave a grave in the sea for the Tamil
refugees crossing palk strait to India.
The LTTE expresses its deep grief and sorrow for the victims of
Wednesday's tragedy in which a boat-load of Tamil refugees
drowned off the Mannar coast. Our sympathies go out to the
families of those who died. The loss of any Tamil lives is a
great loss to the Tamil nation. We request all in the Tamil
nation to observe Saturday 22 February as a day of national
mourning. We request the people of Tamil Eelam to close shops,
offices and other establishments as a mark of respect.
At least 130 people died in the tragedy when the boat capsized.
Most were women and children trying to make it to India before
Sri Lankan troops - engaged in their latest military offensive -
could arrive.
Sri Lanka's "Edibala" operation started a few weeks ago with
troops advancing westward from Vavuniya sending thousands of
Tamil civilians fleeing in their wake. 10,000 people have so far
been made homeless by the offensive. No provisions have been made
by Sri Lanka to house or feed them. Sri Lankan troops at Vavuniya
have meanwhile blocked humanitarian relief to them ignoring
repeated pleas from NGOs.
In this military offensive, like all others, Sri Lankan troops
have been bulldozing their way through Tamil territory without
regard for civilian casualties. For Tamils the hazardous boat
crossing to India is a last resort to escape the army advance.
Many more people are likely to attempt the dangerous crossing as
the army proceeds with its offensive.
vino shanmugarajah
> some evidence. I will arrange that for you.
I AM LOOKING FOWARD TO SEE YOU BODY!
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah
nanthi wrote:
> Kantha Puranam was written 10 centuries ago. Can you tell any historical
> points in that book?
Well, then you were coming up with your Muthali caste story and Pallava
connection, is that a real history and if so,how did you have your
reference?
>
> Kulaththalave Akumam Kunam.. true.. you started as a moderate tamil..Now
> you are a LTTE barker.. Theevu low caste colours are coming out..
For the last time, I want to let you know that I never be a LTTE
supporter (except case by case stand); And, I was/is a Marxist ideology
follower who once morally supported 'Theeppori' group of splited PLOTE.
And, I'm not a theevu tamil and not lived long in Jaffna though my
mother is from one part of Jaffna. Caste, I never mind. And, even if I
claim here, I'm from high caste/low caste, it is a SHAME for what I
believe.
And, for your another post, I do not think that Chandrika has
powerful/useful devolution package to solve Tamils' problem. But, I
feel, she is better than those were earlier. But, 'Better' is not
considered as 'Best.'
Have a good day, pal.
Rizi
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah
nanthi wrote:
> I am proud to say that I belong to a Pallava warrior clan(Muthalis=Great
> Siru Thondar who lead the forces against VATAPI. Sri Lankan Prince
> ManaVarma too joined hands with Siru Thondar in the expedition.They
> defeated Pulikesi(?). Now Siru Thondar is revered by all hindu Tamils as
> a saint. This is only an example). Muthalis have more to their record,
> not like you.
but from another far southern clan. You better see, Kalki's "Sivakamiyin
Sabatham."
Manavarma actually was with Mahedra/MAmala only for getting help to get
her reign back from his sibling back in Illankai, not ONLY for the
purpose of helping Pallava.
BTW, when was this history written? I am skeptic, since you are skeptic
about histories.
Rizi
Naren Subramanium
In article <mvi...@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca>Meenaradchagan Vishnu
wrote:
Meenan Vishnu (alias Paul) wrote:
>There is a Tamil newspaper in Toronto called namnaadu. One day, the
>editor of this paper received two visitors, a Canadian and a Tamil.
>They offered to help the paper financially, if the editor agreed to
>print what they provide. The editor, being a man of principle, prompty
>refused and published this incident in his paper.
>On the other hand, I think D. B. S. Jeyaraj of Manjari accepted th
Who told you this 'STORY'? Your terorist friends at the WTM who were
dreaming about sueing Warren Christopher? As always in the past, you
come up with stoies and report as facts.
Mancharie was forced to stop by the Terrorists of the World Tamil Movement.
>provided. The Tamil community as whole, especially the business
>community, rejected his paper and he went out of business.
This is the greatest bull-shit! LTTE thugs in Canda, try thier best to
stop the publication of any material against the LTTE. Though it is
changing these days, the terrorists of the WTM 'volunteer force' employs
all means, -threats, intimidation, and assualt, to stop these publications.
WTM's leader (perin Inpam) wrote in a letter that 'If WTM wants they can
stop the publication of a paper with a simple press-release!'. What does this
moron think of himself? Is this terrorist aware that he is living in
Canada and not in Wanni jungles?
LTTE also flood the market by publishing several newspapers under
different names, to show that all the newspapers are supporting them.
They employ spineless morons like Thiruchelvam (another big-time fraud in
the Tamil community!) and others to print newspapers.
WTM terrorists were responsible for
* Assualting DBS Jeyarajah with base-ball bats at the Ontario Science Center
* Burning of the Thedakam Library in Downtown
* Shooting of a Tamil radio programme announcer
* Assualting shop-keepers who were selling Mancharie (DBS's newspaper!)
Meenan, who seems to get his information from his terrorist friends at
the World Tamil Movement (WTM), always twist the facts and write in the
net, like teling stories to kindergarden kids.
Here is what Meenan THINKS!
>About the burning of thEdakam library, I think it was done by agents of
^^^^^^^^^^
>On the other hand, I think D. B. S. Jeyaraj of Manjari accepted the
^^^^^^^^^^^^
LTTE was loosing support among many Tamils and thier collection was
shrinking. But thanks to the other moron Umberto, LTTe seems to be
thriving again. So called Student Organization of the WTM is distributing
Umberto's posting where he slams all the Tamils and his anti-tamil crap.
If LTTE's support is increasing, it is beacuse of the plain stupidty of
racists like Umberto, and not beacuse of the LTTE's actions!!
Meenan and Umberto are serving for the same purpose !
Suchetha
Eezhamahan Guna wrote:
>
--------8<----SNIP---->8--------
>
> I never said that is was ok to burn
> books. But you guys make this burning
> a bigger issue while the burning of the
> Jaffna library with tons of thousands times
> more books remains a smaller issue for you
> who try to make use of this for your
> propaganda purposes.
> You got it?
>
> Guna
>
i never said anything was bigger or smaller
ui never said that the jaffna library was of lesser importance than the
toronto(?) one
if, as you say, there were so many important documents in there then it
would probably be more valuable than the library in canada
but either way both actions were attempts to stop people from getting
information and to stop people from giving out information
i condemn both those actions
whether from the ltte or the government or anyone else
peace
suchetha
nanthi
You are not invited and only Theva should come there with two identity
cards. One should be with a photograph.
Naren Subramanium
nan...@myna.com
Rajah Skandarajah wrote:
>>
>> nanthi wrote:
>>
>give
>> > some evidence. I will arrange that for you.
>>
vino shanmugarajah
>> some evidence. I will arrange that for you.
I AM LOOKING FOWARD TO SEE YOU BODY!
Eezhamahan Guna
Naren Subramanium (bn...@torfree.net) wrote:
: ba...@idirect.com wrote:
: > This is a democractic country, if shopkeeper doesn't want to
: >carry
: >the papers why should LTTE supporters draged in to this problem, the Tamil
: >people are whole heartly supporting LTTE, people don't want to see this kind
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: Balam,
: May be you should read and learn something about democracy before you
: spit your crap in public! You know it is a democratic country (Canada ,
: that is). The fundamental principle in democracy is allowing the opposing
: views. You say that in this democratic country the tamil people
: 'DON'T WANT SEE THIS KIND OF PROPAGANDA'. What kind of democracy is that?
: Is this the kind of Democracy Pirabakaran invented?
So what? People stopped buying the paper because
it was not expressing their views. That is why
he had to close down the paper. Of course,
the Tamil people do not want to see this
propaganda.so they stopped buying the paper.That shows real
democracy for the people in Canada unlike in your bloody
SriLanka.
Guna
: According to 'YOUR DEMOCRACY', people don't want to see opposing views,
nanthi
Your trouble is you read SVAKAMIYIN SABATHAM and claim history from that
NOVEL. This itself shows your idiocy. Read Sujatha and Balakumaran,
then you will be wizard in world history..
nanthi
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
>
> nanthi wrote:
>
Thank you for the information..You have started to distancing yourself
from the CRIMINAL CENTRE.If you supported Theepori..I will find out you
soon..Do you know how many Theepori people are alive today..
Theva
In article <5elj99$o...@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>, s104...@aix2.uottawa.caś
says...
>
>Naren Subramanium (bn...@torfree.net) wrote:
>
>: ba...@idirect.com wrote:
>
>
>: > This is a democractic country, if shopkeeper doesn't want to
>: >carry
>: >the papers why should LTTE supporters draged in to this problem, the
Tamil
>: >people are whole heartly supporting LTTE, people don't want to see this
kind
>: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
>: Balam,
>: May be you should read and learn something about democracy before you
>: spit your crap in public! You know it is a democratic country (Canada ,
>: that is). The fundamental principle in democracy is allowing the opposing
>: views. You say that in this democratic country the tamil people
>: 'DON'T WANT SEE THIS KIND OF PROPAGANDA'. What kind of democracy is that?
>: Is this the kind of Democracy Pirabakaran invented?
>
Most people agree on their issue about Tamil Elam struggle, i said
the shop keeper don't want keep those papers because he would lose his
customers by giving that flyers, that is his right in this democractic
country, he wants to show his customer as a supporter for his people cause
So you read that post again and brain wash your mind again.
Umberto Gui
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
>
> nanthi wrote:
>
> > American Information Centre which was closed after egg throwing at the
> > American Ambassodor for the involvement in Vienam war in Jaffna. The
> > other books avalable in Colombo library or in the Archives. Can these
> > fellows tell a single Tamil History book which is not available in the
> > world? No History book of Jaffna is written in Tamil.
>
> Dear friend, do you know 'YAzhp~ANa vypavamAlai' which was burnt with
> the Jaffna library was in the original palmyrah leaves and was saying
> the jaffna & tamil history. Friend, you may have problems with LTTE,
> caste and theevu tamils, but do not degrade yourself to to this extent
> to justify the burning of a library (which even, Hilter refused to do in
> France when captured).
> This was done under the supervision of "good family bockground and good
> education contenting (look Mr. Wilfred from Uni. Of Melbourne)" Gamini
> Dissanayake.
> Rizi
nanth is was correct, in what he said. The sinhalese always had a
tradition of recording down facts relating to the history of Sri Lanka.
Many people have only heard of the Mahavamsa, chulavamsa and the
Rajavaliya, but they are not aware that these great books were actually
written from various other books which were called "katha's". ( i.e
Anuradhapura katha, Seruwawil katha etc.
So buddhist temples in each area of the country maintained books on
various activities and the authors of the Mahawamsa and Chulawamsa
referred to these books.
There was no such tradition in Tamil areas. This was mainly because
"Tamil history" has serious problems. All Tamil scholars who have
researched into Tamil history have diplomatically stated that there arn't
enough facts. The "Viapava malai" you refer to above was written under
instructions of the dutch, and it is no history book.
If any Tamil scholar decides to write on the history of Jaffna, he will
be faced with the uncomfortable facts that Rasanayagam had to face in his
1926 publication, Ancient Jaffna. These uncomfortable facts are.
1) the occupation of Jaffna by the sinhalese prior to the Tamils.
2) the large amounts of illegal immigrants in Jaffna
3) huge amounts of slaves brought in by the portuguese for the tobbaco
plantations.
4)The fact that the history of Jaffna after the Sinhalas lead to the
Pallava's and the Kerelas in the east and that the TAMILS arrived
relatively recently as slaves and illegals and swarmed Jaffna changing
the character of Jaffna drastically( language, culture etc), similar to
the one million estate Tamils changing the culture and language of the
hill country drastically.
For example the present wells in Jaffna ( some 80,000 ) were dug by the
Tamil slaves brought in for the Tobbaco plantations. These wells have the
same style of the ones in the coromandal coast. The older wells which
existed before the arrival of the Tamil slaves worked on a different
system which was called a "gravity fed system". Studies done on Jaffna in
the early part of this century and the various books written at that time
knocks the eelam historical argument into the gutter.
UMBERTO GUI
nan...@myna.com
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
>>
>> nanthi wrote:
>>
nan...@myna.com
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
>>
>> nanthi wrote:
>>
Mariasingham M Joseph
Umberto Gui (nm...@dial.pipex.com) wrote:
: 2) the large amounts of illegal immigrants in Jaffna
******************
: 3) huge amounts of slaves brought in by the portuguese for the tobbaco
**********************
: plantations.
why is your english so poor, dog?
nanthi
you talk of freedom..Criminals have no freedom to break the glass
windows of the shops..
Mariasingham M Joseph
nanthi (nan...@myna.com) wrote:
:
: you talk of freedom..Criminals have no freedom to break the glass
: windows of the shops..
make sure you keep attending those rudimentary sp and grammar classes
:)
nanthi
I am not an English man...but I am a Sri Lankan Canadian.. Are you
teaching any ESL classes in Toronto?
sankarlal
Are you a Srilankan Canadian? How about your father?
Bye for now
Sankarlal
sankarlal
Umberto Gui wrote:
>
> Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
> >
> > nanthi wrote:
> >
> 4)The fact that the history of Jaffna after the Sinhalas lead to the
> Pallava's and the Kerelas in the east and that the TAMILS arrived
> relatively recently as slaves and illegals and swarmed Jaffna changing
> the character of Jaffna drastically( language, culture etc), similar to
> the one million estate Tamils changing the culture and language of the
> hill country drastically.
>
> For example the present wells in Jaffna ( some 80,000 ) were dug by the
> Tamil slaves brought in for the Tobbaco plantations. These wells have the
> same style of the ones in the coromandal coast. The older wells which
> existed before the arrival of the Tamil slaves worked on a different
> system which was called a "gravity fed system". Studies done on Jaffna in
> the early part of this century and the various books written at that time
> knocks the eelam historical argument into the gutter.
>
> UMBERTO GUI
Great! How did you come up with that!!!!, Umberto Pie?
Who told you that if you write so much, people will believe them?
Bye for now
Sankarlal
nanayakkara
What else Mariasingham M Joseph wrote:
>
> Umberto Gui (nm...@dial.pipex.com) wrote:
>
> : 2) the large amounts of illegal immigrants in Jaffna
> ******************
> : 3) huge amounts of slaves brought in by the portuguese for the tobbaco
> **********************
> : plantations.
>
> why is your english so poor, dog?
His family business is prostitution.
He was a rent boy used by the Srilankan armed forces.
Now he is busy sucking cocks in King Cross Area in London
linus
Theva wrote:
>
> >
> >Burning books is bad whether it is done by SL govt.
> >in Jaffna or by somebody in Toronto. I was appalled when
> >the Jaffna library was burnt. I hope one day the Jaffna
> >library will be restored to the extent that is possible and
> >I hope the SL govt. will take a lead initiative to do it.
>
> Mr. that is too late Singhala politicians are totally brain washed by
> mahavamsa budhist nationality, Tamils are not stupid enough to get whatever
> singhala politician's want's to give, Never in your life time young tamil's
> would trust Singhala politician's, one must every body should remember
> Prabhakaran only 17 when he join the Tamil movement, he had seen all the
> Singhala astrocites against tamils and he is now 43 years old, now very well
> matured enough, but still know's very will about the Singhala budhist
> cheating politicians. The Jaffna library will allways our national struggle
> symbol, the literature's and culutural identity we lost in that library is
> not refundable, don't dream your self chandrika will refund that rare
> treasure's in her life time.
Hi Theeva,
You say that your cultural identity was lost with Jaffna library. But
you have nothing to say about the tamil library in Toronto? Is it the
number of books that has to be burnt before the cultural identity is
lost? Or is it that you and your LTTE friends can do anything and get
away with it, simply because you have the power to intimidate people?
As for rebuilding what was lost in Jaffna library, I really don't care
if Chandrika does or does not do it. It does not matter what an
individual does. What I would like to see is Singhalese as a comunity
take some steps to do something about it.
Mariasingham M Joseph
nanthi (nan...@myna.com) wrote:
: ------------------------------------------------
: I am not an English man...but I am a Sri Lankan Canadian.. Are you
: teaching any ESL classes in Toronto?
Come to Queen's if you have time :).
Mariasingham M Joseph
nanayakkara (n...@bimnet.net) wrote:
: do you expect from an illerate cock sucker like Umberto Gui.
my mistake I guess :))
: His family business is prostitution.
Not surprisingly. Logically reality couldn't be otherwise.
: He was a rent boy used by the Srilankan armed forces.
That says it all!!!
: Now he is busy sucking cocks in King Cross Area in London
He has no choice. Especially with his momma NOT sucking hard enough.
nanthi
Thank you
nanthi
Jaffna library is a propaganda piece for these LTTE supporters to make
their claims in the west, but morally they always show their criminal
uncivilised behaviour.
Umberto Gui
> : >
> : > > > : You are destroying the tamil culture man and you don't know it.
> : > > > : You better wake up and try to solve the problem. The tigers are not
> : > > > : interested in peace. They are only interested in a seperate land. If you
> : > > > : use your common sense, you would know that this is not going to happen.
> : >
> : > Why is it impossible? Does the Gov't want to confine the tamils?
>
> : Why all this confinement? Are you guys all pregnant?
>
> : >
> : > > > : And thus, you should seek out to end the war and bring peace. Then work
> : > > > : with others of Lanka to build up the nation economically and politically.
> : > > : And thus tamils can enjoy a posperous life
> : >
> : > Can they really? what do you mean by prosperous life .. murders, rapes...
>
> : Are there no murders , rapes in other societies?
>
> : >
> : > > enough to say that LTTE should talk with the SL govt. seriously
> : > > about peace.
> : >
> : > The gov't wants to annihilate the Tamils if possible. How can one ever
> : > talk about peace?
> : >
> : > Sitha
>
> : There is no one who wishes to annihiliate anybody. The devil is in your
> : mind and it has been put there by your communal politicians and leaders.
> : You are from Jaffna, living an isolated life, and suspicious of the
> : Sinhalese, while a majority of Tamils live amongst the Sinhalese in
>
> ha ha ha majority of the Tamils live in
> Sinhala areas. It would seem so if
> you colonize the Tamil areas. And after
> a while, you tell them "oh...we were
> living here for a century... Do you have
> any proof you lived here?" What will they
> say? you have already burned the evidence
> in the form of books and historical evidence.
>
> Go on and lie... you shameless liers of
> the barbaric Srilankan government!!!!
>
> Guna
>
> : Sinhalese areas. I can tell you that the Sinhalese are far more tolerant
> : and compassionate than the Tamils. Thats why more Tamils live in Sinhala
> : areas and why no other minority lives amongst the Tamils in the North. If
> : you want to see the devil, look in the mirror.
>
> : UMBERTO GUI
Umberto Gui
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
>
> Umberto Gui wrote:
> >
> > Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
>
> > to cross swords with me about Trincomalee and had to back off rapidly
> > like your masters who ran into the jungle. You proved yourself as another
> > Tamil bullshitter who talks a lot and tells everyone of his intellect in
> > order to cover up his ignorance.
> >
> > Think Trincomalee.
> >
> > UMBERTO GUI
> >
> > 1
> Dear fellow,
> Have you not seen all of my postings lately? Then, it is not my fault
> that you do not know who won in the fencing over Trincomalee. Keeping
> silence on that thread and Guishitting here does not make sense (Ah!
> that is way you usually make (non)sense). I never claimed that I'm an
> intellectual (do not degrade me; I think, I'm a genious (Is this Jaffna
> Tamil correct in his spelling, my master?).
> By the way, my master is not in the jungle. My master Marx passed away
> before one century.
> Have another thread of Guishitting.
> Rizi
Did you say Marx?
That moron who wrote a fairy tale which has been rejected by the whole
word now?
I can now understand your problems. Like the rest of the coolies, you and
your master has been rejected by the world. The world is pissing on the
coolies, eh?
Now, even UNHCR is pissing on the coolies and the coolies have just,
today, complained.
sad, isn't it.
Umberto Gui
1
Umberto Gui
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
>
> Umberto Gui wrote:
> >
> > Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > In my belief if LTTE want's t really do a favor for the tamil
> > > > peole they should stop the blood fights and surrender
> > > > themselves to the Sri Lankan army.
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > A bunch of Holy-Angels?
> > >
> > > > C.S.
> >
> > yes, and the soldiers of Democracy.
> >
> > They have proved the blessings of the gods, because the almighty has
> > delivered Jaffna to the rightous LIONHEARTS and condemned the Tamil
> > Terrorist pagans to eternal damnation.
> >
> > WE ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE.
> >
> > YOU ARE CHOSEN TO BULLSHIT, ADMINISTER FILLING STATIONS IN THE WEST AND
> > DOMINATE REFUGEE CAMPS IN THE EAST.
> >
> > THE WILL OF GOD!
> >
>
> Is this your self-written last-will at the fall end of lunacy or what?
God pissed on the coolies again last week, yet another boat full of
coolies of the eelam supporters club making a quick exit sank, with 165
hitting the decks. The Coolies in the jungle are moaning about this act
of God. The Almighty is seriously pissed off with you guys. He has cast
the Tamil pagans to eternal damnation. The Day of judgement has come.
Umberto Gui
1
sankarlal
So you are saying that you are a civilised person? From your other
articles everybody knows about your civilization, fat shit.
Nanthi is payed by SriLankan government to write lies about LTTE.
AND he is a fat man.
Bye for now
Sankarlal
Umberto Gui
nanthi wrote:
>
> Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
> >
> >
> > > More than 60% of the books in the Jaffna library were dumped by the
> > > American Information Centre which was closed after egg throwing at the
> > > American Ambassodor for the involvement in Vienam war in Jaffna. The
> > > other books avalable in Colombo library or in the Archives. Can these
> > > fellows tell a single Tamil History book which is not available in the
> > > world? No History book of Jaffna is written in Tamil.
> >
> > Dear friend, do you know 'YAzhp~ANa vypavamAlai' which was burnt with
> > the Jaffna library was in the original palmyrah leaves and was saying
> > the jaffna & tamil history. Friend, you may have problems with LTTE,
> > caste and theevu tamils, but do not degrade yourself to to this extent
> > to justify the burning of a library (which even, Hilter refused to do in
> > France when captured).
> > This was done under the supervision of "good family bockground and good
> > education contenting (look Mr. Wilfred from Uni. Of Melbourne)" Gamini
> > Dissanayake.
> > Rizi
> you are an idiot that Yalpana Vaipava Malai was published in paper some
> 70 years ago! There was no OLA manuscripts were in the Jaffna Library. I
> used that Libraty for more tha fifteen years and I never come across any
> of OLA manuscripts of any book in Jaffna Library.
>
> Further, do you know that one Sabalingam was killed by LTTE for writing
> Jaffna history? He was published again the Yalapana Vaiva malai.
>
> Important thing is this YVM is not considered as a history book at all.
> This was written by a Mailvaganam of Mathagal during the Dutch period.
> He copied the informations from the KAILAYA MAALAI.
>
> DO YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY FUCKER KNOW THIS BOOK? THERE IS NO
> HISTORICAL VALIDITY FOR THIS BOOK, EXCEPT FEW INFORMATIONS.
ha ha ha ha ha
The bastards are not only manufacturing history, they are also
manufacturing history books. ola leaves?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
What a bunch of fraudsters.
Umberto Gui
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Umberto Gui
> > historical validity. Interesting; BTW, I never claimed that I'm the only
> > one knows about it, and that's why I came to write about its writing in
> > 'Olai' for sure here.
> > Thanks for the compliments at the start and at the end.Anyway, I
> > appreciate it; You are always talking about caste. o.k; 'kulaththaLava
> > AkumAm kuNam.'
> > Rizi
> ----------------------------
>
> Kantha Puranam was written 10 centuries ago. Can you tell any historical
> points in that book?
>
> you are a LTTE barker.. Theevu low caste colours are coming out..
This Rizi and all these other Tamil bastards live out side Sri Lanka and
are swamped with LTTE versions of history. There is no one to challenge
and question this version abroad. So all the Tamil idiots think that the
LTTE version of history is fact. When them meet the real world, they are
in for a big shock.
Its a bit like living in Jaffna. They live an isolated Tamil life, in an
isolated Tamil world, haunted by Sinhalese ghosts they have created
believing in their own Tamil invincibility and Tamil intelligence. Then
reality hits them and what a bloody mess.
UMBERTO GUI
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sankarlal
I'll recommend you to go to a gym, fat shit.
Bye for nwo
Sankarlal
Umberto Gui
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
>
> nanthi wrote:
>
> > --------------------------
> > you are an idiot that Yalpana Vaipava Malai was published in paper some
> > 70 years ago! There was no OLA manuscripts were in the Jaffna Library. I
> > used that Libraty for more tha fifteen years and I never come across any
> > of OLA manuscripts of any book in Jaffna Library.
> >
> > Further, do you know that one Sabalingam was killed by LTTE for writing
> > Jaffna history? He was published again the Yalapana Vaiva malai.
> >
> > Important thing is this YVM is not considered as a history book at all.
> > This was written by a Mailvaganam of Mathagal during the Dutch period.
> > He copied the informations from the KAILAYA MAALAI.
> >
> > DO YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY FUCKER KNOW THIS BOOK? THERE IS NO
> > HISTORICAL VALIDITY FOR THIS BOOK, EXCEPT FEW INFORMATIONS.
>
> A book written (you mean, published, not,"Olai') in dutch period, has no
> historical validity. Interesting; BTW, I never claimed that I'm the only
> one knows about it, and that's why I came to write about its writing in
> 'Olai' for sure here.
> Thanks for the compliments at the start and at the end.Anyway, I
> appreciate it; You are always talking about caste. o.k; 'kulaththaLava
> AkumAm kuNam.'
> Rizi
ha ha ha
This idiot knows nothing about history. He started arguing with me about
the Tamil history of Trincomalee and made a quick exit into the jungle.
Now, he is manufacturing history. Viapada Malai has become a history book
and it has been written on ola leaves. These bastards will in a few years
time state that the history as written by the LTTE is an authentic
history book and how Ravana who flew to India was a Tamil and how he had
many hands and heads and how this great Tamil beat the Wright brother to
it, by becoming the first man to fly. Had to be a Tamil. I am sure he was
from Jaffna as well.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
pssst Is Rama, Ravana and Sita history as well? What about Hanuman? Was
he a Tamil.?
UMBERTO GUI
Umberto Gui
Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
>
> nanthi wrote:
>
> > Siru Thondar who lead the forces against VATAPI. Sri Lankan Prince
> > ManaVarma too joined hands with Siru Thondar in the expedition.They
> > defeated Pulikesi(?). Now Siru Thondar is revered by all hindu Tamils as
> > a saint. This is only an example). Muthalis have more to their record,
> > not like you.
> Dear friend, Siru thoNdar (aka, Paranchothi) is not from a Pallava clan,
> but from another far southern clan. You better see, Kalki's "Sivakamiyin
> Sabatham."
> Manavarma actually was with Mahedra/MAmala only for getting help to get
> her reign back from his sibling back in Illankai, not ONLY for the
> purpose of helping Pallava.
> BTW, when was this history written? I am skeptic, since you are skeptic
> about histories.
> Rizi
This history was written a few days before you wrote your history on
Trincomalee.
Umberto Gui
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Umberto Gui
linus wrote:
>
> Eezhamahan Guna wrote:
> >
> > linus (tan...@nts.ohn.hydro.on.ca) wrote:
> > : Paul wrote:
> > : >
> > : > linus wrote:
> > : > STUFF DELETED
> >
> > : > It is a great insult to the law enforcement authorities
> > : > of Canada. People come here because of high quality of life
> > : > that includes freedom of expression and protection to do your
> > : > commercial and social activities without any intimidation.
> > : >
> > : > I feel that Linus wants to deliberately tarnish the image of
> > : > the best country in the world in living standards, Canada.
> > : >
> > : > Did this news paper owner complained to the Police ?
> > : > Why didn't police provide protection and arrest those who
> > : > were responsible for that ?
> > : > Didn't police arrest those who burnt the library and ordered
> > : > compansation and protection for that libarary ?
> > : >
> > : > In my understanding, these accusations are all wrong, and by
> > : > people who have no understanding of the law and order situation
> > : > in these countries.
> > : >
> > : > What I heard was, that news paper comapny went bankrupt after
> > : > people stopped buying that. It lost business after it started
> > : > supporting Sri Lanka government, and company went bankrupt.
> > : > To save the face, in last edition the owner said that he stopped
> > : > publishing because LTTE forced him to do so. He never proved
> > : > the allegation.
> > : >
> > : > I heard that the library was burnt by the owners to get the insurence.
> > : > May be some investigation is going on in that direction now.
> >
> > : It is common knowledge in the Sri Lankan community in Toronto (both
> > : Singhalese and Tamil) that the paper folded after the shopkeepers who
> > : were distributing the paper were intimidated by the LTTE supporters not
> > : to carry the paper.
> >
> > : As for me tarnishing the image of Canada, I think you should read the
> > : Toronto newspapers last few years carefully and check out the names
> > : of some of the people who were arrested for various illigal activities
> > : like manufacturing false passports and visas (both SL and Canadian), gang
> > : fights in the city's east end and so on. They you will realise for
> > : yourself who is really tarnishing this country's image and abusing
> > : the hospitality and the compassion offered to them by Canada.
> >
> > The problems you are talking about here are not just
> > the problems in the Tamil community. It is
> > found in the diverse communities found in Toronto.
> > How the hell do many Sinhalese claim refugee status
> > in Canada?
> >
> > : You say the library was burnt by the owners to get insurance. What we
> > : heard is that the library was not insured against anything. You people
> > : who go on and on about how the SL army burnt the Jaffna library should
> > : look at your own faces in the mirror and think about what your are saying
> > : now. Or may be it is OK to burn books when it is done by your side?
> >
> > Look here pal.. First of all, it was not concluded on who
> > did the burning. If you are going to make the burning
> > of the library with few books such a big issue( of course,
> > for your propaganda purposes), will it be possible for
> > you to give us back the tons and tons of Tamil books
> > that the SInhalese thugs burnt in the Jaffna library.
> > These books are historical evidence of Tamil literature and
> > are immeasurable in value. All the way along,
> > this is the way the racist Sinhalese have distorted
> > history, burnt historical evidence and made them the
> > masters of Tamil land. But not any more... of this.
> >
> > Guna
>
> Hi Guna,
>
> Burning books is bad whether it is done by SL govt.
> in Jaffna or by somebody in Toronto. I was appalled when
> the Jaffna library was burnt. I hope one day the Jaffna
> library will be restored to the extent that is possible and
> I hope the SL govt. will take a lead initiative to do it.
Why the fucks should we rebuild Jaffna library? Are the Tamils going to
rebuild the Central Bank, the GPO building, Celinco house the Jaffna
kachcheri etc?
UMBERTO GUI
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Umberto Gui
Theva wrote:
>
> >
> >Burning books is bad whether it is done by SL govt.
> >in Jaffna or by somebody in Toronto. I was appalled when
> >the Jaffna library was burnt. I hope one day the Jaffna
> >library will be restored to the extent that is possible and
> >I hope the SL govt. will take a lead initiative to do it.
>
> mahavamsa budhist nationality, Tamils are not stupid enough to get whatever
> singhala politician's want's to give, Never in your life time young tamil's
> would trust Singhala politician's, one must every body should remember
> Prabhakaran only 17 when he join the Tamil movement, he had seen all the
> Singhala astrocites against tamils and he is now 43 years old, now very well
> matured enough, but still know's very will about the Singhala budhist
> cheating politicians. The Jaffna library will allways our national struggle
> symbol, the literature's and culutural identity we lost in that library is
> not refundable, don't dream your self chandrika will refund that rare
> treasure's in her life time.
Prabakaran is 43, huh? Not a young man any more. We fought the south
indians for over a thosand years when they tried to take parts of our
country. We fought the Portuguese, Dutch and the Brits for over 400 years
, when they tried to take parts of our country. We lost many battles, but
we have won all our wars.
How long do you think you can sustain this war? Can you keep up with the
resolve and the determination of the Sinhalas.? All those who tried to
take parts of our country are gone now. They have all had to leave.
20% of the Tamils are already international refugees. Other are
sinking in the sea like rats. Not long to go, huh?
We are the chosen people. The almighty has delivered Jaffna to the
rightous Lionhearts and condemned the Tamil terrorist
cockworshipping pagens to eternal damnation.
You are fighting the will of GOD. You will never succeed, only perish
like dogs. You have two options. Live with us in a multi cultural Sri
Lanka after abandoning terrorism or die like rats.
UMBERTO GUI
Umberto Gui
sankarlal wrote:
>
> nanthi wrote:
> >
> > linus wrote:
> > >
> > > Theva wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Burning books is bad whether it is done by SL govt.
> > > > >in Jaffna or by somebody in Toronto. I was appalled when
> > > > >the Jaffna library was burnt. I hope one day the Jaffna
> > > > >library will be restored to the extent that is possible and
> > > > >I hope the SL govt. will take a lead initiative to do it.
> > > >
> > > > Mr. that is too late Singhala politicians are totally brain washed by
> > > > mahavamsa budhist nationality, Tamils are not stupid enough to get whatever
> > > > singhala politician's want's to give, Never in your life time young tamil's
> > > > would trust Singhala politician's, one must every body should remember
> > > > Prabhakaran only 17 when he join the Tamil movement, he had seen all the
> > > > Singhala astrocites against tamils and he is now 43 years old, now very well
> > > > matured enough, but still know's very will about the Singhala budhist
> > > > cheating politicians. The Jaffna library will allways our national struggle
> > > > symbol, the literature's and culutural identity we lost in that library is
> > > > not refundable, don't dream your self chandrika will refund that rare
> > > > treasure's in her life time.
> > >
> > >
> > > You say that your cultural identity was lost with Jaffna library. But
> > > you have nothing to say about the tamil library in Toronto? Is it the
> > > number of books that has to be burnt before the cultural identity is
> > > lost? Or is it that you and your LTTE friends can do anything and get
> > > away with it, simply because you have the power to intimidate people?
> > >
> > > As for rebuilding what was lost in Jaffna library, I really don't care
> > > if Chandrika does or does not do it. It does not matter what an
> > > individual does. What I would like to see is Singhalese as a comunity
> > > take some steps to do something about it.
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> > Jaffna library is a propaganda piece for these LTTE supporters to make
> > their claims in the west, but morally they always show their criminal
> > uncivilised behaviour.
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> So you are saying that you are a civilised person? From your other
> articles everybody knows about your civilization, fat shit.
>
> Nanthi is payed by SriLankan government to write lies about LTTE.
> AND he is a fat man.
>
> Bye for now
> Sankarlal
ah! the authority on obesity and faeces. Your Sakkili credentials are
plain for all to see.
Umberto Gui
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Umberto Gui
Is your shit fat. Have you been examining it? I always knew that you were
a merchant of Shit. That sakkili streak in you will never leave you. Do
you worship stone cocks as well?
Umberto Gui
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Umberto Gui
> ******************
> : 3) huge amounts of slaves brought in by the portuguese for the tobbaco
> **********************
> : plantations.
>
> why is your english so poor, dog?
How come, a black arsed dravidian mongrel like you is so obsessed with
english. Are you like the arya chakravarthis of Jaffna, dravidians with
black arses who want desparately to think that they are aryans. Perhaps
you think that you are an englishman. I am sorry to disappoint you,
mongrel, But not even the english are so keen about their language like
you are. I think you must be having some kind of an obsession. The only
way to treat this, is for you to realise that you have a problem and
visit your local psychologist.
By the Way, The British Medical journal carried an article by a Tamil
doctor that the Tamils in British prisons awaiting deportation do not get
adequet psychiatric care. I always knew you guys have some serious
problems. You are having diarrhoea in the Vanni, psychiatric problems in
British prisons, think you are english, administers filling stations in
the west and refugee camps in the east. Boy, you guys have some serious
problems.
Umberto Gui
Umberto Gui
Eezhamahan Guna wrote:
>
> Naren Subramanium (bn...@torfree.net) wrote:
>
> : ba...@idirect.com wrote:
>
> : > This is a democractic country, if shopkeeper doesn't want to
> : >carry
> : >the papers why should LTTE supporters draged in to this problem, the Tamil
> : >people are whole heartly supporting LTTE, people don't want to see this kind
> : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> : Balam,
> : May be you should read and learn something about democracy before you
> : spit your crap in public! You know it is a democratic country (Canada ,
> : that is). The fundamental principle in democracy is allowing the opposing
> : views. You say that in this democratic country the tamil people
> : 'DON'T WANT SEE THIS KIND OF PROPAGANDA'. What kind of democracy is that?
> : Is this the kind of Democracy Pirabakaran invented?
>
> it was not expressing their views. That is why
> he had to close down the paper. Of course,
> the Tamil people do not want to see this
> propaganda.so they stopped buying the paper.That shows real
> democracy for the people in Canada unlike in your bloody
> SriLanka.
>
> Guna
>
More example of Tamil democracy.
These Tamil terrorists have even killed thousand of
members of their own Tamil community. Here is a list of
more prominent Tamils, mostly members and activists of
Democratic political parties, killed by the Tamil Terrorists
in order to silence the Democratic Tamil voice, so that
they can GRAB POWER by terror. Any Tamil who
speaks against them will be killed.
A.T. Duraiyappah [SLFP Mayor of Jaffna on
27.7.75]
A.Thiagarajah [ex ACTC M.P. for Vadukoddai
who later joined the UNP on 24.4.81]
K.T.Pulendran [UNP Organiuser for Vavuniya on
19.1.83]
A.J.Rajasooriar [UNP Organiser for Jaffna on
12.8.83]
Mala Ramachandran [UNP MMC for Batticaloa
on1.9.83]
Gnanachandiram [Ex District Judge Point Pedro
and Government Agent Mullaitivu on 24.2.85]
C.E.Anandarajah [Principal St.Johns College,
Jaffna on 26.6.85]
B.K.Thambipillai, [President, Citizens Committee
Oddusudan on 22.8.85]
V.Dharmalingam [Ex TULF M.P. for Manipay and
father of D.Siddharthan Leader of PLOTE on
2.9.85]
Alalasunderam [Ex TULF M.P. for Kopay on
2.9.95]
P.Kirubakaran [Primary Court Judge on 11.3.86]
Kathiramalai [Sarvodaya leader on 26.9.86]
Vignarajah [Assistant Government Agent
Samanthurai on 15.9.87]
Anthonimuttu [Government Agent Batticaloa on
8.10.87]
S.S.Jeganathan [Assistant Government Agent
Batticaloa on 8.10.87]
Sinnadurai [Assistant Government Agent
Trincomalee on 26.11.87]
M.E.Kandasamy [Principal, Palugamam Maha
Vidyalaya on 14.12.87]
S.Siththamparanathan [Principal Vigneswara
Vidyalaya Trincomalee on 31.1.88]
S.Wijayanandan [District Secretary Ceylon
Communist Party on 8.3.88]
Velmurugu Master [TULF Organiser and Citizens
Committee Member Kalmunai on 20.3.88]
Rev. Father Chandra Fernando [President,
Citizens' Committee, Batticaloa on 6.6.88]
Rajshankar [President Citizen's Committee
Tennamarachchi on 27.10.88]
S.Sambandamoorthy [Ex TULF Chairman District
Development Council, Batticaloa on 7.3.89]
V.M.Panchalingam [Government Agent, Jaffna on
1.5.89]
K.Pulendran [Assistant Government Agent, Kopay
on 28.6.89]
A.Amirthalingam [TULF Leader and National List
M.P. on 13.7.89]
V.Yogeswaran [ex TULF M.P for Jaffna on
13.7.89]
Dr. (Mrs) Rajini Thiranagama [Lecturer in
Anatomy at the Jaffna University and co-author of
the 'Broken Palmyrah' on 25.9.89]
Ganeshalingam [ex EPRLF Provincial Minister for
North & East on 28.1.90]
Sam Thambimuttu [EPRLF MP] and Mrs.
Tambimuttu [on 7.5.90]
V.Yogasangari [EPRLF MP in Madras on
19.6.90]
Umberto Gui
> : windows of the shops..
>
> make sure you keep attending those rudimentary sp and grammar classes
> :)
Make sure you keep your appointment with that Psychologist. Ask him to
double that dose of lithium. It will do you wonders.
Umberto Gui
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sankarlal
Umberto Gui wrote:
>
> Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
> >
Sinhalia modeia
Bye for now, umberto Pie.
Sankarlal
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sankarlal wrote:
>
> Umberto Gui wrote:
> >
> > Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
> > >
> > > nanthi wrote:
> > >
> > > > More than 60% of the books in the Jaffna library were dumped by the
> > > > American Information Centre which was closed after egg throwing at the
> > > > American Ambassodor for the involvement in Vienam war in Jaffna. The
> > > > other books avalable in Colombo library or in the Archives. Can these
> > > > fellows tell a single Tamil History book which is not available in the
> > > > world? No History book of Jaffna is written in Tamil.
> > >
> > > Dear friend, do you know 'YAzhp~ANa vypavamAlai' which was burnt with
> > > the Jaffna library was in the original palmyrah leaves and was saying
> > > the jaffna & tamil history. Friend, you may have problems with LTTE,
> > > caste and theevu tamils, but do not degrade yourself to to this extent
> > > to justify the burning of a library (which even, Hilter refused to do in
> > > France when captured).
> > > This was done under the supervision of "good family bockground and good
> > > education contenting (look Mr. Wilfred from Uni. Of Melbourne)" Gamini
> > > Dissanayake.
> > > Rizi
> >
> > nanth is was correct, in what he said. The sinhalese always had a
> > tradition of recording down facts relating to the history of Sri Lanka.
> > Many people have only heard of the Mahavamsa, chulavamsa and the
> > Rajavaliya, but they are not aware that these great books were actually
> > written from various other books which were called "katha's". ( i.e
> > Anuradhapura katha, Seruwawil katha etc.
> >
> > So buddhist temples in each area of the country maintained books on
> > various activities and the authors of the Mahawamsa and Chulawamsa
> > referred to these books.
> >
> > There was no such tradition in Tamil areas. This was mainly because
> > "Tamil history" has serious problems. All Tamil scholars who have
> > researched into Tamil history have diplomatically stated that there arn't
> > enough facts. The "Viapava malai" you refer to above was written under
> > instructions of the dutch, and it is no history book.
> >
> > If any Tamil scholar decides to write on the history of Jaffna, he will
> > be faced with the uncomfortable facts that Rasanayagam had to face in his
> > 1926 publication, Ancient Jaffna. These uncomfortable facts are.
> >
> > 1) the occupation of Jaffna by the sinhalese prior to the Tamils.
> > 2) the large amounts of illegal immigrants in Jaffna
> > 3) huge amounts of slaves brought in by the portuguese for the tobbaco
> > plantations.
> > 4)The fact that the history of Jaffna after the Sinhalas lead to the
> > Pallava's and the Kerelas in the east and that the TAMILS arrived
> > relatively recently as slaves and illegals and swarmed Jaffna changing
> > the character of Jaffna drastically( language, culture etc), similar to
> > the one million estate Tamils changing the culture and language of the
> > hill country drastically.
> >
> > For example the present wells in Jaffna ( some 80,000 ) were dug by the
> > Tamil slaves brought in for the Tobbaco plantations. These wells have the
> > same style of the ones in the coromandal coast. The older wells which
> > existed before the arrival of the Tamil slaves worked on a different
> > system which was called a "gravity fed system". Studies done on Jaffna in
> > the early part of this century and the various books written at that time
> > knocks the eelam historical argument into the gutter.
> >
> > UMBERTO GUI
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Great! How did you come up with that!!!!, Umberto Pie?
>
> Who told you that if you write so much, people will believe them?
>
> Bye for now
> Sankarlal
read a bit more fuck face, and you may get wise...
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</H1></CENTER><CENTER><IMG SRC="ras.gif"></CENTER><CENTER><H5>Slab
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<CENTER><H5>Extracts from "Ancient Jaffna" by Mudaliyar C Rasanayagam
(1926).</H5></CENTER><H5>Page 384</H5><P> "That Jaffna was occupied
by the Sinhalese earlier than by the Tamils is seen not only in the
place names of Jaffna, but also in some of the habits and customs of the
people. The system of branding cattle with the communal brand by which
not only the caste but also the position and the family of the owner
could be traced, was peculiarly Sinhalese. The very ancient way of
wearing the hair in the form of a konde behind the head.....The women's
fashion of dressing their cloth across their breasts and mens of wearing
their tufts of hair on the side of the head, as was the custom in
Jaffna, were introduced by the Malabar immigrants." </P>
<H5>Page v (Foreward)</H5><P> "
Dr. S. Krishnaswami Aiyangar of the Madras University writing on 29.8.1926 the Foreword to Ancient Jaffna by Mudaliyar C. Rasanayagam says: "The attempt of the author to derive the name Ilam does not appeal to us as quite successful; Ilam to us seems to be directly derived from the Pali word Sihalam, which in Tamil would be Singalam or even Singanam, but a strict Tamilising would make it Ilam...."<I> Ancient Jaffna-Mudaliyar C Rasanayagam (Foreword p. v.).</I></p>
<H5>Page 382</H5><P> " After the massacre of the Christians, Sankili's ( king of Jaffna)
insane fury longed for more victims and he fell upon the Buddhists of
Jaffna who were all Sinhalese. He expelled them beyond the limits of the
country and destroyed their numerous places of worship. Most of them
betook themselves to the Vanni's and the Kandyan territories (as per
Yalpana Vaipava Malai by Mailvagana Pulavar translated by C Brito.), and
those who were unable to do so became the slaves of the Tamil chieftains
and are now known as 'Kovia', a corruption of the Sinhalese word '
Goviya' or 'Goiya' and that their original status was equal to that of
the Vellalas can be inferred from customs which are still in Vogue in
Jaffna. The 'Tanakaras' and the 'Nalavas' of Jaffna should also be
considered Sinhalese remnants in spite of the fanciful derivation of the
word 'Nalava' given by the author of the Vaipava Malai. The Nalavas were
perhaps originally the Sinhalese climbers and received the Tamil name on
account of their peculiar way of climbing trees. They too became the
slaves of the Tamil chieftains. The Tanakaras were the ancient elephant
keepers and those who supplied the necessary fodder to the stables of
the king. ( Sinhalese: Tana=grass). They perhaps on account of the
service rendered by them were not expelled from the country and later
became inseparably mixed with the Tamils among whom they had to
remain.........the fact that the Kovias, Tanakaras and Nalavas were
originally Sinhalese can be seen from the peculiar dress of their women
who wear the inner end of their cloth over the shoulders in a manner
quite strange to the genuine Tamils."</P><H5>Page 179</H5><P> " Upon
the introduction of copious Pali and Sanskrit works, a new language (
Sinhalese) came into existence, with a ground work of Elu ( language
spoken by Yakkha,Naga) and Tamil and the superstructure of Pali and
Sanskrit....In a similar manner were formed Malayalam and Telugu; from
their copious vocabulary of Sanskritic words it is now almost impossible
to trace their origin to dravidian dialects. While the process of
forming the Sinhalese nation was going on by the continual mixture of
the Yakkhas, the Nagas, the Tamils and the Kalingas(Vijaya), the
Sinhalese language too was growing and expanding.....Thus it will be
seen that the mixed population from Point Pedro ( in the north) to
Dondra Head (in the South) known by the name Sinhalam.........during the
early centuries of the Christian era, spoken one language. This
propersition is further supported by most of the place names in Jaffna
which have an Elu or semi-Sinhalese origin. They became divided only
when the Vannis came in and intervened between them. From that time the
people in the North became estranged from their brethren in the centre
and the south and progressed altogether on Tamil lines, whereas the
Sinhalese grew into a new nation absorbing into themselves even the
millions of pure Tamils who remained in Central and Southern Ceylon
after the Chola (Tamil invaders) power had declined....a process which
can be witnessed even today in the western coast. The difference must
have accentuated after the downfall of Buddhism in Southern India, and
after a large number of new Tamil colonists began to settle down in
Northern Ceylon, for we find that even from the 10th to the 15th
centuryAD the Sinhalese eliment was so strong in the North that there
were constant troubles between the Sinhalese and the Tamils in Jaffna.
(as per Yalpana Vaipava Malai by Mailvagana Pulavar translated by C
Brito.) "</P><H5>Page 250</H5><P> " Some others are of the opinion
that 'Yalpanam' is the Tamil adaptation of the Sinhalese name 'Yapane',
which like many other Sinhalese names of places in the district existed
prior to the Tamil occupation......It is not at all surprising to see
the name appearing in Sinhalese and Indian works earlier than in Tamil
writings in Jaffna, for it appears that the application of the name for
the whole district did not become popular among the inhabitants until
the Portuguese period."</P><H5>Page 37</H5><P> "Now it is rather
significant that Manarridal was the name given to Jaffna in the 'Yalpana
Vaipava Malai', and that the name Veligama (sandy district), a Sinhalese
name with the same meaning was given to a portion of Jaffna by the
Sinhalese.(Valigama..Valigamam..Valikamam)"</P><H5>Page 42</H5><P>
"The Mahabharatha, which mentions..........Vavravahan the son of
Chitrangadai by Arjuna......It is also said that Vavravahan, while
fighting against Arjuna, 'raised his standard which was decorated most
beautifully, and which bore the device of a lion in gold' ..........This
standard displaying a lion appears, therefore to have been the one used
by the Naga kings of North Ceylon ( Naga and Yakkas...before arrival of
Vijaya and later Tamils)......the standard of the lion, which appears to
have been the emblem of the Nagas of North Ceylon, continued to be the
flag of the Ceylon king till the Island was ceded to the British in 1815
AD."</P><H5>Page 52</H5><P> " But, according to a local tradition
which still exists, and which has been embodied in the 'Yalpana Vaipava
Malai', Vijaya landed on the northern coast of Jaffna and took up his
residence at Kadiramalai....... It is said that Vijaya, who was
undoubtedly a Hindu, built the temple called Tirutambalesvaram in the
North of Ceylon. This temple must have been built near the present
Kirimalai, as there are lands in the vicinity still going under the name
of Tirutampalai. Tamba is the Sanskrit word for copper; and the
Tambapanni of the Sinhalese chronicler can therefore quite conceivably
be the 'Tirutambalesvaram' mentioned in the 'Yalpana Vaipava Malai' "</P><H5
>Page 5</H5><P> "In the Mahabharatha the Nagas are frequently
mentioned as living in various parts of India and Ceylon in a highly
civilized state under their own kings.....Nagpur ( Nagapuram), Nagarjuna
Kills, Nagarcoil, Nagarcot, Nargapattinum etc."</P><H5>Page 59</H5><P>"Waves
of conquest and colonisation ....names of places translated into tongue
of the invaders or settlers . Kadiramalai (Naga)...
Kadiragoda(Sinhalese). ..Kandergoda.. ..Kandercudde.. ..Kantarrodai..
..Odaikurichchi.. .Kantarodai (Tamil) ...The discovery of extensive
Buddhistic archaelogical remains and large quantities of Indian and
Roman coins affords ample testimony to its ancient greatness..........
The other Tamil name Katirkamam is the literal transformation of the
Sinhalese name Kataragama and has no connection with the Tamil
components ' Katir'(divine glory) and 'kamam' (love), a resemblance seen
through religious fervor only. The tradition mentioned in the 'Yalpana
Vaipava Malai' that Vijaya built a temple for 'Kadirai Andavar' might
possibly have referred to the temple at Kataragama."</P><H5>Page 332</H5><P
> " Bhuvaneka Bahu (Kotte) who caused the Jaffna Town and the Nalur
temple to be built was known as Sri Sanghabodhi, a title borne by the
Sinhalese kings....In the Kattiyam ( daily repeated at the Kandaswamy
Temple) too he is referred to as Sri Sangabodhi Bhuvaneka Bahu."</P><H5>Page
62</H5><P>" Jambukola ( now Sambu turai in Jaffna) was the port of
disembarkation of the Buddhist emigrants from Magadha during the time of
Devanampiya Tissa. A great trunk road seem to have been in existence,
leading from Jambukola and passing through Kantarodai and running
parallel to the present central road to the northern gate of
Anuradhapura. The remains of two stone bridges, one over the Malvatu
oya......... The Ambassadors sent by Devanampiya Tissa to king Asoka of
Magadha embarked at Jumbukola and reached Pataliputra in 14 days; and
Asoka's ambassadors, sent to Ceylon landed at Jambukola and reached
Anuradhapura in 12 days ( Mahavamsa).......Sangamitta and the Bo tree
landed at Jambukola...of the first eight plants (Bo) raised out of the
seed of the tree planted at Anuradhapura, one was planted at Jambukola
Patuna on the spot where the Bo tree was deposited at disembarkation.
The very old Bo tree standing by the side of the Paralay Kandaswamy
temple at Chulipuram, about half a mile from the Port was perhaps the
plant here referred to..... Devanampiya Tissa erected a vihare at the
port of Jambukola in Nagadipa; likewise the Tissa maha vihare and the
Pacina Vihare. The ruins of a dagoba and a vihare can still be seen
close to the port; and the place called Tissa maluva about a hundred
yards opposite to the Kandaswamy temple above mentioned, perhaps marks
the site of Tissa maha vihare. The ancient broad road from Jambukola to
Tissa maha vihare still exists but serves no useful purpose."</P><H5>Page
117</H5><P>" Anoubingara (on Ptolomy's map) can be traced to Singai
Nagar (in Jaffna) or Sinhapura, a town built and occupied by Kalinga
colonists who accompanied Vijaya and who are said to have landed at
Mahisadipa. It came into prominence and fame during the time of the
later Jaffna kings called Arya Chakravartis and its extensive ruins can
still be seen at Vallipuram near Point Pedro.( Singa Nagar was trans
formed to Ana Singara and then Anubingara by foreign merchants.)"</P><H5>
Page 190</H5><P>" In the early days when buddhism flourished in North
Ceylon, the outlying islands off the coast of Jaffna contained important
monasteries and viharas... "</P><H5>Page 309</H5><P> "Kings of Jaffna
belonged to, claimed connection with or imitated the Eastern gangas (
Ganges) who went from Gangavadi and settled at Kalinga. If the earliest
kings of Jaffna came from amongst them, it must have been Ugra Singan,
for it was after this time that the kings ruling in the north were
called Kalingas. Whether Ugra Singan was a member of the Eastern Gangas
or not, he came down with a large army of Kalingas to secure the throne
of Kadiramalai for himself. As it is said in the Vaipava Malai that he
was 'a prince of a dynasty founded by King Vijaya's brother' it may be
surmised that he was a member of one of the Kalinga families that came
with Vijaya and settled at Singai Nagar (Sinhapura) near Vallipuram.</P><H5>
Page 370</H5><P>The following is a list of kings who reigned at Singai
Nagar (Sinhapura) Jaffna from the 13th to the middle of the 15 th
century is adapted from the Vaipava Malai giving probable dates.</P><CENTER>
<TABLE BORDER="2">
<TBODY TBLWD="500" TBLHT="1" TBLUNITS="pixels"><COLDEFS COLWD="166.667" TBLUNITS="pixels"
><COLDEF><COLDEF><COLDEF></COLDEFS>
<ROWS ROWHT="0.0833333" TBLUNITS="pixels"><TR><TD COLSTART="1">Vijaya
Kulankai (Kalinga Magha)</TD><TD COLSTART="2">Segarajasekeran</TD><TD COLSTART="3"
>c 1210 AD</TD></TR><TR><TD COLSTART="1">Kulasekara</TD><TD COLSTART="2">
Pararajasekeran</TD><TD COLSTART="3">c 1246 AD</TD></TR><TR><TD COLSTART="1"
>Kulottunga</TD><TD COLSTART="2">Segarajasekeran</TD><TD COLSTART="3">c
1256 AD</TD></TR><TR><TD COLSTART="1">Vikrama</TD><TD COLSTART="2">Pararajasekeran</TD>
<TD COLSTART="3">c 1279 AD</TD></TR><TR><TD COLSTART="1">Varotaya</TD><TD
COLSTART="2">Segarajasekeran</TD><TD COLSTART="3">c 1302 AD</TD></TR><TR>
<TD COLSTART="1">Martanda</TD><TD COLSTART="2">Pararajasekeran</TD><TD COLSTART="3"
>c 1325 AD</TD></TR><TR><TD COLSTART="1">Gunapushana</TD><TD COLSTART="2">
Segarajasekeran</TD><TD COLSTART="3">c 1256 AD</TD></TR><TR><TD COLSTART="1"
>Virotaya</TD><TD COLSTART="2">Pararajasekeran</TD><TD COLSTART="3">c
1256 AD</TD></TR><TR><TD COLSTART="1">Jayavira</TD><TD COLSTART="2">Segarajasekeran</TD>
<TD COLSTART="3">c 1256 AD</TD></TR><TR><TD COLSTART="1">Gunavira</TD><TD
COLSTART="2">Pararajasekeran</TD><TD COLSTART="3">c 1256 AD</TD></TR><TR>
<TD COLSTART="1">Kanagasuriya</TD><TD COLSTART="2">Segarajasekeran</TD><TD
COLSTART="3">c 1256 AD</TD></TR><TR><TD COLSTART="1">Bhuvaneka Bahu
(of Kotte)</TD><TD COLSTART="2"></TD><TD COLSTART="3">c 1256 AD</TD></TR></ROWS></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER><P
>Jaffna kings used alternate names such as Pararajasekaran,
Segarajasekaran etc... look at their real names ( first column). </P><HR>
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Umberto Gui
desparation is oozing out of you.
ha ha ha ha ha ha
I have such pleasure when I hit you and I help to smash your bullshit.
This week I am on a high, after Imperial Collage cancelled TEEDOR ,
stopping them from staging their high powers propaganda meeting. The
bastards are completely embarrased and all their organisation on the
conferance has gone up in smoke. ha ha ha ha ha ha
Umberto Gui
Umberto Gui
sankarlal wrote:
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> Umberto Gui wrote:
> >
> > Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
> > >
> > > Umberto Gui wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rizi Richard Jeyarajah wrote:
> > >
For the Sinhala modayas to be the kings of Jaffna, the Tamils must be
serious modayas.
Bye Fuck face
Umberto Gui
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nanthi
You are an asshole and you never deserve any civilised reply..
I am not fat like your Karayan criminal Prabhkaran...