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uNmaiviLambi

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The Koran and Bible
are
Evil Cult Manifestos
© G.M. Woerlee

Many believers in the religions using the Koran and Bible as their
basic holy texts say the texts in these books should not be
interpreted literally. Instead, they say we should interpret the
passages within these books as metaphors and allegories illustrating
fundamental messages contained within these passages. So it was, that
while reading some passages in the Koran and Bible, I was struck by
the similarities between the passages in these books. When you view
many of these passages, you realize that the texts of the Koran and
the Bible are guidelines, and illustrations of deviant religious
behaviour typical of cults and sects!

This sounds dramatic, and it is damatic. So let's start at the
beginning. What is a cult? What is a sect? Is a cult something
different from a sect? How are these defined? According to the Merriam-
Webster Dictionary:

* A cult is defined as a system of religious beliefs and ritual.
The term also refers to its body of adherents. It is also defined as a
religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious, and also refers to its
body of adherents.
* A sect is defined as a dissenting or schismatic religious body,
especially one regarded as extreme or heretical. It is also defined as
a religious denomination, or a group adhering to a distinctive
doctrine or to a leader.

Sociological studies reveal several factors possessed by destructive
cults. Click here, here, here, and here for several very good articles
on the common manifestations of cults. When you study these properties
in relation to the fundamental meanings of the messages contained
within Koran and Bible texts, you realize that the first followers of
these religions were actually no more than members of evil cults lead
by incredibly opportunistic and ruthless leaders!

An analysis of the meanings of basic passages in the Koran and Bible
reveals the truth of this. I used a modified version of the 14
criteria from the book Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and
Abusive Relationships by Janja Lalich and Madeleine Tobias, (Bay Tree
Publishing), together with other cult characteristics from various
studies (see the links above) to illustrate the truth of this
statement with passages from the Koran and Bible. So what are the
properties of cults, and what are the texts in the Koran and Bible
proving that the first followers of the religions using these books as
holy texts were members of deviant and evil cults? I have listed some
of these properties below.

1. A Cult offers something desirable: People join cults or become
members of a group, because membership offers something desirable,
something that fills a void in their lives, or something that is both
emotionally satisfying as well as individually profitable. This is
certainly true of Christianity and Islam.
2. Commitment to Leader: The group displays excessively zealous and
unquestioning commitment to its leader, and regards his belief system,
ideology, and practices as the truth, or even as law. This was
certainly true for both Jesus and Mohammed.
3. Exalted Status of Leader: The leader claims a special, exalted
status: as the Messiah, a special being, an avatar, a messenger, or
the leader is on a special mission to save humanity). This was
certainly true for both Jesus and Mohammed.
4. Leader is Privileged: The cult leader is not accountable to any
authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders, or
ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious
denominations). Due to his status as leader, the leader also receives
special dispensations and privileges not accorded other members of the
cult. This was certainly true for both Jesus and Mohammed.
5. Ruthless Cult Leaders: Cult leaders make opportunistic and
ruthless use of quite natural and other phenomena to "prove" they are
especially chosen by God, and to demonstrate the divine powers
supposedly invested in them by God. This was certainly true for both
Jesus and Mohammed.
6. Dictates of Leader: The leadership dictates, sometimes in great
detail, how members should think, act, and feel (e.g., members must
get permission to date, change jobs, or marry, or leaders prescribe
what to wear, where to live, whether to have children, how to
discipline children, and so forth). Jesus said that nothing of the
very detailed laws of Moses in the Bible should be changed, and
Mohammed revealed extremely detailed instructions for all basic
aspects of life.
7. Elitist Nature of Cult: The group is elitist, claiming a
special, exalted status for itself, as well as its members, claiming
they are especially blessed or chosen by God, or that they are somehow
more evolved and better than unbelievers. This is certainly true of
Christianity and Islam.
8. Discouraging Questioning: Questioning, doubt, and dissent are
discouraged or even punished. Faith in the truth of the beliefs
propagated by the cult is paramount - logic and reason are
discouraged. This is certainly true of Christianity and Islam.
9. Mislead by Evil Forces: Those refusing to believe in the system
of thought propagated by the cult are regarded as being misguided:
under the influence of evil forces, mislead by their sinful bodies of
flesh, specifically placed by God on this world to serve as bad
examples, or blinded by God for some inscrutable reason so as to act
as a bad example. This is certainly true of Christianity and Islam.
10. Cut Ties with Family & Friends: Subservience to the leader and
group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and
radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before
joining the group. This is certainly true of Christianity and Islam.
11. Restricted Social Contact: Members are encouraged, or required
to live and/or socialize only with other group members. This is
certainly true of Christianity and Islam.
12. Us-versus-Them: The group has a polarized, us-versus-them
mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society. They may
demonise all people who do not believe in the principles of the cult.
Refusal to associate with non-believers and family result in conflicts
with society, resulting in violence or conflict arising from the cult
itself, or violence and conflict from the societies in which the cult
finds itself. Martyrdom is one of the consequences of conflict between
a cult and the surrounding society. This is certainly true of
Christianity and Islam.
13. Mission to Convert: The group is preoccupied with converting and
bringing in new members. This is certainly true of Christianity and
Islam.
14. Cults want money and commitment: Many cults measure the degree
of commitment to the cult, as well as the level of spirituality
members achieve, by the amount of money they bring into the cult. Some
people burn all their bridges by donating all their possessions to the
cult. This is true commitment. Others say they will donate certain
amounts, and cult leaders will ensure they keep these promises. In
general: the more people donate, the more blessings they receive from
God. This is certainly true of Christianity and Islam.
15. Departure from Group Punished: Threats, punishments, and even
death for those leaving the cult. Hatred and punishment of apostasy.
(Note that normal religious sects and denominations never do this. As
long as the person is worshipping or respecting God, then it does not
matter which sect, or religion they follow.) This is certainly true of
Christianity and Islam.
16. Belief in an end-time: Many religious cults propagate the idea
of an end-time, a time when God destroys the world to usher in a new
era when the universe is under total control of God, and when God
judges the living and the dead. No-one escapes judgment - all are
judged. This loving, just, and merciful God condemns all unbelievers,
as well as the criminal and sinful, to unspeakable torments in hell
for all eternity, while rewarding faithful believers with eternal
bliss in heaven. This is certainly true of Christianity and Islam.


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But the Bible and Koran are not meant to be interpreted literally...

"Aha!" is the reaction of many people to these statements and to the
passages of holy text below. "But these texts were never meant to be
interpreted literally. Instead, they are allegories, parables and
metaphors from which you can distil a true message from God." To many
people such an idea is tantamount to heresy. They say the Bible or
Koran are meant to be read as is - literally. Even so there are many
more believers who say that the texts in these holy books are not
meant to read literally, but interpreted as allegories, as metaphors,
or as parables demonstrating and illustrating the wishes of God for
humankind. Who knows which of these two schools of thought is correct.
I certainly do not know. However regardless of which of these two
methods of interpretation is correct, these allegories, metaphors, or
parables supposedly demonstrating and illustrating the wishes of God
are actually reveal a system of thought typical of destructive cults.
Many of these stories illustrate antisocial, cruel, or callous
behaviour sanctioned by God as "good" or “holy”. Moreover many
passages reveal how natural events are ruthlessly exploited to bind
followers with superstitious terror. At the same time ignorance and
faith are praised above reasoned argument. The list goes on and on.

But then many believers come with the reaction, “You have ripped these
citations totally out of the context in which they were meant to be
interpreted! So what you are saying is total nonsense. You can always
find a part sentence, or a short piece of text to support any
opinion.” People saying these things can click on the links provided,
or read the appropriate parts of their holy books to see for
themselves whether these citations have been torn out of context, and
can only come to the conclusion that they are used appropriately
within the context they were placed.

However, if these passages are placed within context, while other
passages reveal an opposite message mercy and love, then this raises
the question of consistency. Which of the two types of message is
correct? The Bible and Koran contain the revelations of the messengers
of God. Yet God is supposedly perfect, so God cannot be fickle and
inconsistent. This can only mean that the interpretation of the
revelations of God by these messengers was deficient, resulting in
texts which are inconsistent, sometimes cruel and horrid, at other
times full of love and charity. So which of these messages is true? Do
these inconsistencies mean that the Bible and Koran are flawed books
whose message should be ignored? Or does this mean that because God
revealed these messages, that these texts are all true, and that God
is fickle, inconsistent, full of hatred for humankind, and cruel?

The last refuge of those contending this interpretation of the Bible
and Koran is to say that the translations of the texts of these books
in modern Western languages are incorrect. In the case of the Bible,
simply enormous amounts of energy and money have been invested in
ensuring the most accurate translations of the original texts
possible. So the original texts of the Bible have been translated
accurately by these scholars. Then we come to the Koran. We read in
verse 14:4 of the Koran that God wants the message of the Koran made
available in the mother tongues of the people to whom it is preached.
And indeed, the highest religious authorities of Islam support this
idea. The interested reader can learn about the qualities of the
different English translations of the Koran by clicking on the link
for the very good article by Khaleel Mohammed published in 2005. The
translation used here differs in no way from the better translations,
so the passages cited here are also accurate renditions of the 7th
century Meccan Arabic dialect spoken by Mohammed.

So when you study the texts of the Bible and Koran, you cannot help
but come to the conclusion that these books prove that the first
followers of Christianity and Islam were no more than members of evil
and destructive cults whose members considered themselves better than
all unbelievers. The passages below are clear demonstrations of the
proof of this statement.


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fanabba

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Jun 27, 2009, 5:52:34 AM6/27/09
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Jihad Watch, Sharia Watch and Taqiyya Watch

www.faithfreedom.org
www.islam-watch.org
www.jihadwatch.org
www.actforamerica.org
www.citizenwarrior.com
www.politicalislam.com

Al Ghazali, perhaps the greatest Muslim scholar and a Sufi wrote:

"One must go on jihad (i.e., warlike razzias or raids) at least once
a
year...one may use a catapult against them [non-Muslims] when they
are
in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. One may set
fire to them and/or drown them...If a person of the Ahl al-Kitab
[People of The Book - primarily Jews and Christians] is enslaved, his
marriage
is [automatically] revoked.One may cut down their trees...One must
destroy their useless books. Jihadists may take as booty whatever
they
decide...they may steal as much food as they need...

A NEW KORAN
Sharia (Islamic Law) advocates Islamic Supremacism and mandates the
subjugation, oppression and exploitation of non-Muslims and women. A
group of devout Muslims rejects the idea that Sharia is part of the
Religion of Islam. This group, which calls itself "Muslims Against
Sharia", has a web site: www.reformislam.org . This group is engaged
in producing a New Koran that omits the Sharia-related verses from the
Koran.

fanabba

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On Jun 26, 8:45 pm, uNmaiviLambi <tripurant...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Crusade Watch, Evangelism Watch and Conversion Watch

www.christianaggression.org
www.crusadewatch.org

War is being waged against Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism.
The aggressors will not stop. All inter-faith dialogues are for the
benefit of the aggressors. The sooner Hindus, Buddhists, Jains and
Sikhs understand this, the better for them.


The hate-filled ideology of Christian Missionaries and Evangelists:
"Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism and other non-Christian
religions must be destroyed. Hindus, Buddhists,Jains, Sikhs and other
non-Christians must be converted to Christianity."


Charles Dickens on missionaries:

"Missionaries are perfect nuisances and leave every
place worse than they found it. "

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