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harmony

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Aug 26, 2008, 1:02:54 PM8/26/08
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actually, indian kirastanis sided with colonialist brits and conspired
against hindus. they served as informants to brits. they actually did not
india to be free.

now that india is a free country, these monotheists are demanding more and
more rights with a clear intent to destroy hindu society and culture. in
nagaland they already have made that first big start. in other states of
northeast and in kerala they are salivating at similar prospect. all hindus
must have the right defense mechanism in place.


and/or www.mantra.com/jai

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Aug 26, 2008, 3:45:17 PM8/26/08
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In article <48b4373e$0$4034$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:

talk.politics.guns added to distribution to see what recommendations
gun enthusiasts have to offer about the defense of Hindus. A successful
defense takes place at many levels.

Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

Kerry Ladd

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Aug 26, 2008, 5:30:45 PM8/26/08
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> In article <48b4373e$0$4034$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
> "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>
>>actually, indian kirastanis sided with colonialist brits and conspired
>>against hindus. they served as informants to brits. they actually did not
>>india to be free.
>>
>>now that india is a free country,

(BWAAAHAHAHAHAAA!)

> talk.politics.guns added to distribution to see what recommendations
> gun enthusiasts have to offer about the defense of Hindus. A successful
> defense takes place at many levels.

Hindus are idiots.
Yet once you live in the United states, even you retards have
protected Human rights.

Wanderer

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Aug 27, 2008, 1:54:52 PM8/27/08
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harmony aka pradipshit parekh, the anti-hindu, wrote:

> actually, indian kirastanis sided with colonialist brits and conspired
> against hindus. they served as informants to brits. they actually did not
> india to be free.

You are an absolute mother-f**ker. You insult the Christians who served
in the INA and died in battle while your coward saffron shitheads were
hiding out in the hills of Maratha country.


> all hindus
> must have the right defense mechanism in place.

What's that, a saffron-colored danda in Victoria?

harmony

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Aug 27, 2008, 3:41:37 PM8/27/08
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<use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
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jai maharaj ji, best defense is education, a point i have made several times
to the proud gun owners too.
but the gun owners' first instinct is likely to advise the hindus to grab
guns - in mahatma gandi's land????!!!!.


Tim Miller

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Aug 27, 2008, 3:53:04 PM8/27/08
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" Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will
look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
-- Mohandas Gandhi

Kerry Ladd

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Aug 27, 2008, 4:27:30 PM8/27/08
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harmony (aka Jay Stevens) wrote:

> jai maharaj ji, best defense is education, a point i have made(snip)


That explains why do YOU not have any "education" or defense!

Name that school that YOU ("Dr. Jai Maharaj") gained a Doctorate from!

One would think that they would be PROUD to tell where they were
Eductated at... right?

The FACT is, yer an HIV/AIDS ridden homosexual, fried pork eating
liar, with the educational equivalent of a sack of wet mice!


M. Ranjit Mathews

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Aug 27, 2008, 4:56:03 PM8/27/08
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On Aug 26, 12:02 pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:

10-15 years back, there was a gathering in Kottayam, Kerala, of
Christians from the Indian National Army (the army of the so-called
"Government in exile of Free India") who fought against the British in
Burma at a time when Harmony's ancestors were probably kissing British
arses. One of them was an OI Oommen, another was a John Jacob and
another was a Colonel Koshy (now deceased; the other two might be
deceased too by now). Colonel Koshy was actually not in the Fauj; at
the time, he was a JCO (Junior Commissioned Officer) in the (mostly
Hindu and Sikh) British Indian Army that defeated the Fauj but ... he
stole rations to feed men from the defeated Fauj and employed a couple
of them as garbage collectors to help them survive.

> actually, indian kirastanis sided with colonialist brits

Hindus and Muslims sided with colonialist Brits and conspired against
Sikhs. (The shooters at Jalianwala Bagh consisted of 20 Hindus and 20
Muslims) Sikhs sided with colonialist Brits and conspired against
Hindus and Muslims after "the Great Sepoy Mutiny".

> and conspired against hindus. they served as informants to brits.

Name some such informants and the information they conveyed to the
British. If you can't, how do you know they served as informants?

> they actually did not india to be free.

Harmony's buddies actually did not want freedom fighters to be
rewarded. After Indian independence, the Indian bureaucracy excluded*
most ex-INA fighters from service in the Indian Army. The soldiers who
fought on the side of the British remained in the Army. Which other
countries have excluded their freedom fighters and rewarded their
collaborators? Since Harmony's buddies (the so-called Brahmin-Banya
axis) were mostly collaborators, they rewarded other collaborators.

* "After Indian independence, the ex-INA members, with some
exceptions, were refused service in the Indian Army."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_National_Army

The Deep

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Aug 28, 2008, 1:03:48 AM8/28/08
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Okay, you've made a claim without proof. All I need is one
counterexample to demolish the claim. So, I did a little digging. The
counterexample comes from south of the Vindhyas (Kerala in particular)
as all counterexamples do. Try and do a little research on a Syrian
Christian George Joseph of Chengannur (in erstwhile Travancore). Here
is a link on the book about him

http://books.google.com/books?id=A6MfPh-9DiEC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=Christians+Indian+Independence+Movement&source=web&ots=Odr47C8kyk&sig=By3Aw-PxvX_-itNEkTsq9cWXVDw&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result

Another interesting link

http://books.google.com/books?id=2NCvZWNkQxkC&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=Christians+Indian+Independence+Movement&source=web&ots=wZuvrvC_Z7&sig=FdBH6UQZEYHWJZlKlkadSqUy6JQ&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result#PPA113,M1

(read all of Chapter 5 by Judith M Brown)

Try again!

Dinesh

and/or www.mantra.com/jai

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Aug 28, 2008, 4:53:21 AM8/28/08
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In article <48b5adf5$0$4031$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:

> http://www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:


> > In article <48b4373e$0$4034$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
> > "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
> >>
> >> actually, indian kirastanis sided with colonialist brits and conspired
> >> against hindus. they served as informants to brits. they actually did not
> >> india to be free.
> >>
> >> now that india is a free country, these monotheists are demanding more
> >> and
> >> more rights with a clear intent to destroy hindu society and culture. in
> >> nagaland they already have made that first big start. in other states of
> >> northeast and in kerala they are salivating at similar prospect. all
> >> hindus
> >> must have the right defense mechanism in place.

> > talk.politics.guns added to distribution to see what recommendations
> > gun enthusiasts have to offer about the defense of Hindus. A successful

> > defense takes place at many levels. - Jai Maharaj

> jai maharaj ji, best defense is education, a point i have made several times
> to the proud gun owners too.
> but the gun owners' first instinct is likely to advise the hindus to grab
> guns - in mahatma gandi's land????!!!!.

I agree: education is the key and an effective solution.
Mahatma Gandhi said: "I do believe that where there is only
a choice between cowardice and violence I would advise
violence . . . but non-violence is infinitely superior to
violence." In your opinion, have Hindus reached the point
where "there is only a choice between cowardice and violence"?

karthika

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Aug 28, 2008, 5:35:28 AM8/28/08
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How many Christians served in the INA?

karthika

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Aug 28, 2008, 5:46:53 AM8/28/08
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On Aug 27, 4:56 pm, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> > must have the right defense mechanism in place.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

But you too failed to mention the leader of the INA. As far as I know
Malayalees and Tamils were the main componant of the INA. Netaji
Subash Chandra Bose was a warrior and he electrified the INDIANS in
Malaysia, (Then Malaya), Burma and Singapore to join the INA. Those
INA soldiers crossed Burma and many settled in Assam. Many Tamils and
Malayalees settled in Assam. I met a few of their children in
Gauhatti!

This time I like to tell some Sri lankan Sinhalese too joined INA and
died at the hands of British.

To get more information, better contact FORWARD BLOC which follow the
ideals of the INA. But Nerhu and Gandhi agreed not to celebrate Netaji
as an Indian hero to the British. That is why all Indian governments
refuse to recognise Netaji as a Indian Hero!

Vandhe Madharam!

karthika

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Aug 28, 2008, 5:54:59 AM8/28/08
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On Aug 27, 4:56 pm, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> > must have the right defense mechanism in place.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

But now the trend changed. Sikhs and Muslims are together and Hindus
are alone.
North-West-Indians who always claims they are a bit superior to Hindus
in the South and North-East.

Now you will understand why I am against the GYPSY population of the
North-West India.

Sikh(Sic) Manmohan cried in Urdu and Persian on the day of
Independence Day!

Wanderer

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Aug 28, 2008, 12:29:28 PM8/28/08
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karthikass <mud...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Find out for yourself before you talk shit.

kuri...@gmail.com

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Aug 28, 2008, 1:14:30 PM8/28/08
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Is lying part of Dharma you extol so much? Do you realize that you
are discrediting Hinduism by speaking on its behalf through lying,
deception, and blatant distortions. Do you think your karma won't find
you out?

kuri...@gmail.com

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Aug 28, 2008, 1:15:02 PM8/28/08
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On Aug 26, 11:02 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Is lying part of Dharma you extol so much? Do you realize that you

harmony

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Aug 28, 2008, 1:27:24 PM8/28/08
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<use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
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it is true that kirastanis have attacked hindu schools since the colonial
times (mccauley's time), and have deprived the hindus of their education.
the mohamadan invaders pretty much destroyed all hindu universities and
their libraries.
from what i have been able to gather, in old days foreigners including from
greece and china used to go to india for advanced education.
some say jesus came to india for education (but failed to graduate).
so, between monotheist marauding mohamadism and kolonial kirastanism, the
perenial twin scourge of this earth, the hindu education was dealt a sever
blow.
i would say 95pct of hindu education has been lost as a result and will have
to be regained thr' advanced research - and it will be.

recently in one indian state kirastanis killed a hindu educationist and his
staff.
so, the first option of education for the hindus may be steadily drying up.
recently kirastani schools used education as a weapon, threatening to close
down their schools if local hindus refuse to convert.

harmony

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Aug 28, 2008, 1:40:19 PM8/28/08
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"karthika" <mud...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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the missionaries in those days were extremely busy discrediting the
prominent leaders of freedom fighters, including mahatma gandhi, and
hinduism.
they even praised gen dwyer for jalianwala massacre.
indian kirastanis obviously did what missionaries told them - in other words
turning them against their own people, a thing that continues on.


kuri...@gmail.com

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Aug 28, 2008, 1:44:41 PM8/28/08
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On Aug 27, 11:03 pm, The Deep <dinpra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 26, 10:02 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > actually, indian kirastanis sided with colonialist brits and conspired
> > against hindus. they served as informants to brits. they actually did not
> > india to be free.
>
> > now that india is a free country, these monotheists are demanding more and
> > more rights with a clear intent to destroy hindu society and culture. in
> > nagaland they already have made that first big start. in other states of
> > northeast and in kerala they are salivating at similar prospect. all hindus
> > must have the right defense mechanism in place.
>
> Okay, you've made a claim without proof. All I need is one
> counterexample to demolish the claim. So, I did a little digging. The
> counterexample comes from south of the Vindhyas (Kerala in particular)
> as all counterexamples do. Try and do a little research on a Syrian
> Christian George Joseph of Chengannur (in erstwhile Travancore). Here
> is a link on the book about him
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=A6MfPh-9DiEC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=Chris...
>
> Another interesting link
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=2NCvZWNkQxkC&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=C...

>
> (read all of Chapter 5 by Judith M Brown)
>
> Try again!
>
> Dinesh

Those who have no time or patience to go through the links let me say
this. George Joseph was the elder brother of Pothen Joseph who
distinguished himself as editor of Indian Express, Hindustan Times,
Dawn, (pre-independence time) and retired as chief editior of the
Deccan Herald. George Joseph was a jail mate of Jewaharlal Nehru when
both were incarcerated by the British for their participation in the
freedom struggle.

kuri...@gmail.com

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Aug 28, 2008, 1:45:36 PM8/28/08
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On Aug 27, 11:03 pm, The Deep <dinpra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 26, 10:02 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > actually, indian kirastanis sided with colonialist brits and conspired
> > against hindus. they served as informants to brits. they actually did not
> > india to be free.
>
> > now that india is a free country, these monotheists are demanding more and
> > more rights with a clear intent to destroy hindu society and culture. in
> > nagaland they already have made that first big start. in other states of
> > northeast and in kerala they are salivating at similar prospect. all hindus
> > must have the right defense mechanism in place.
>
> Okay, you've made a claim without proof. All I need is one
> counterexample to demolish the claim. So, I did a little digging. The
> counterexample comes from south of the Vindhyas (Kerala in particular)
> as all counterexamples do. Try and do a little research on a Syrian
> Christian George Joseph of Chengannur (in erstwhile Travancore). Here
> is a link on the book about him
>
> (read all of Chapter 5 by Judith M Brown)
>
> Try again!
>
> Dinesh

Those who have no time or patience to go through the links let me say

harmony

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<kuri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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do you believe in karma?


rss....@gmail.com

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rss collaborated with the british against the ina. golwalkar refused to
endorse the quit india movement. rss was more concerned with weakening
competition from congress rather than strengthening india. even today,
that is what drives them. rss is a brahminist organization that does not
give a rat's ass for other hindus.

harmony

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Aug 28, 2008, 5:30:08 PM8/28/08
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kirastani vile propaganda against rss is same as it was against mahatma
gandhi and other freedom fighters.
i tell ya what is true however: that your papee pope does not care about you
brown injun kirastanis. you can take that to bank.

<rss....@gmail.com> wrote in message news:5zCtk.924$5C.467@trnddc02...

kuri...@gmail.com

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Aug 28, 2008, 6:43:58 PM8/28/08
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On Aug 28, 11:17 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <kurian...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
.
> <<<Is lying part of Dharma you extol so much?  Do you realize that you
> are discrediting Hinduism by speaking on its behalf through lying,
> deception, and blatant distortions. Do you think your karma won't find
> you out?>>>
>
> do you believe in karma?

Do you know the meaning of the word "karma" ? I doubt it. Are you not
accumulating the inevitable consequences of the "karma" you are
engaged in?

harmony

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<kuri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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quite amusing that you wouldn't talk about hellfire and savior instead - the
piece de resistance.

quite obviously the missionary versions of things hindu wouldn't let us find
common ground, neither it is advisable. so, you may cast aside your doubts
and answer the question i posed - which, again, do you believe in karma?

you wouldn't want to use this opportunity to sell indulgences would you, for
if you selling i ain't buying.


"rss. ...@gmail.com

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harmony aka praipshit parekh, the zero % hindu, wrote:

> <kuri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:08aad66d-63fa-45b7...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 28, 11:17 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> <kurian...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
> .
>> <<<Is lying part of Dharma you extol so much? Do you realize that you
>> are discrediting Hinduism by speaking on its behalf through lying,
>> deception, and blatant distortions. Do you think your karma won't find
>> you out?>>>
>>
>> do you believe in karma?
>
> <<<Do you know the meaning of the word "karma" ? I doubt it. Are you not
> accumulating the inevitable consequences of the "karma" you are
> engaged in?>>>
>
> quite amusing that you wouldn't talk about hellfire and savior instead - the
> piece de resistance.
>
> quite obviously the missionary versions of things hindu wouldn't let us find
> common ground, neither it is advisable. so, you may cast aside your doubts
> and answer the question i posed - which, again, do you believe in karma?


The point is that _you_ are supposed to believe in karma, but your
actions indicate that you do not. Which makes you an unbeliever.


> you wouldn't want to use this opportunity to sell indulgences would you, for
> if you selling i ain't buying.

No, you will simply be used as an example of what a Hindu should not
ever become.

karthika

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> freedom struggle.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I know few GEORGES in the communist party under EMS!

karthika

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Sep 5, 2008, 2:25:07 PM9/5/08
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lies are a part of Christ. How can the Christians claim India is
thiers?

karthika

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Sep 5, 2008, 2:38:37 PM9/5/08
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On Aug 28, 1:45 pm, kurian...@gmail.com wrote:
> freedom struggle.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

What is the position of Catholics/christians now?

I too read about the Christians who fought in the freedom struggle
specially from South!!

I hope a Christian Sam Manekshaw, the field Marshel of India who
created Bangaladesh.

Wanderer

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karthikass <mud...@sympatico.ca> wrote:


> I hope a Christian Sam Manekshaw, the field Marshel of India who
> created Bangaladesh.

Sam Manekshaw was not a Christian, you ignorant piece of shit. And Goa
is not in northern Sri Lanka.

karthika

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Sep 5, 2008, 8:48:48 PM9/5/08
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You an ass and show in public!

Markku Grönroos

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"karthika" <mud...@sympatico.ca> kirjoitti
viestissä:885302ab-0706-4405...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

Ah! You inklish veli koot!

Moorthy

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On 26 Aug, 18:02, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> actually, indian kirastanis sided with colonialist brits and conspired
> against hindus. they served as informants to brits. they actually did not
> india to be free.
>
> now that india is a free country, these monotheists are demanding more and
> more rights with a clear intent to destroy hindu society and culture. in
> nagaland they already have made that first big start. in other states of
> northeast and in kerala they are salivating at similar prospect. all hindus
> must have the right defense mechanism in place.


A "kirastani" is millions times better human being than a hatefilled
casteist moron who comes up with this nonsense.

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