Zhalko, Vova, pohozhe, ty wse-taki govno. A ja tebja eshche w chem to ubedit'
pytalsja. Pochemu-to ty mne byl simpatichen. Chert, obidno.
Ja wot tut na Rozhdestwo cut' negra ne zadawil. W centre, na 16-j. Dozhd',noch'.
on sam chernyj, rwan' na nem chernaja, pjanyj w zhopu, kachaetsja posredi pe-
rehoda, a dawno uzhe krasnyj, da on i ne znaet kuda idti. Horosho u menja
ne truck, i reakcija horoshaja - to'lko pnul ego slegka. Baba ego wybezhala -
zadawili, policija, skoraja!. Chas walandalis', mashin ponaehalo. Horosho on
w zhopu pjanyj byl, w konce koncow poslal swoju tetku na huj i ushel, a ona
wse rwalas' ego w bol'nicu, w bol'nicu, i chtob zadokumentirowat' wse.
Nado bylo ego tozhe w siangogu poslat', tem bolee takie kak on raz w 1000
bol;'she food stampow potrebljajut, chem odessity.
Her s nim s Makarkinym, zhalko chto on sukoj okazalsja. Ja tut wot kstati
zhiwoj primer nabljdal, chto kolichestwo foodstampow opredeljaetsja ne tem,
otkuda ljudi pribyli, a kuda. Byl w gostjah w Brookline - perwyj raz, tak wse
na Manhattane bywal. Nu mne moj drug pro swoego rodstwennika rasskazywaet -
mol, on elektrik, mog by na $8/chas ustroitsja. No tak wed' on bol'she na
welfare poluchaet. Ja emu poschital - net, ne bol'she. _Nu, goworit, on chelowek
ne molodoj, rabota tjazhelaja, nikto tak ne delaet. Teper' chast' wtoraja.
Zaezzhaju w supermarket okolo mestnoj JCC w MD, rjadom s DC. Wse kassiry -
evrei s Ukrainy. Ja goworju - skol'ko zh wam platjat? Malo, $5.5 i nikakih
benifitow. A dawno wy zdes'? Ja polgoda, ona wot eshe men'she. A chego wy
na $5.5 poshli, wam cho, welfare ne dawali. Dawali, goworjat, no nas JCC sjuda
ustroilo, goworjat, tak i angliskij luchshe wsego wyuchish', nu i woobshce,
wse rabotajut, i my tozhe.
Wot tak - kak wse tak i my.
Elektrik kstati byl iz Pitera, a kassirsha - iz kakogo-to mestechka.
[zaxvatyvaushaja istroija "Ded Makarkin i Sovki" deleted:)) ]
: Blyad', selilis' bi u sinagogi, znal bi kakoi raion storonoi
: ob'ezzhat'. Tak net, u Sobora tusuyutsya, mimikriya,chto-li. V Richmond
: skoro poryadochnie lyudi sovsem ezdit' perestanut iz-za shlaka etogo.
: Tochno govoryat - gde sovok proshel,tam trava ne rastet.Do sih por
: uspokoitsya ne mogu.
Tak v richmond po-moemu normalnije ludi voobshe ne ezdiat! Ja tam byl
odin raz i ponial - chto esli eta dyra - stolitsa shtata v kotorom ja
zhivu, to eto xerogo. Vot i ne ezhu tuda bolshe, chtob ne napominat'
sebe. Xotia muzej u nix tam Edgara A. Poe klevij - priamo v dome
gde Poe i zhil. A sovkov ja tam ne zametil (xotia i ne iskal osobo:) -
chernix pravda mnogo - stojat sebe po uglam zapilennix ulic, stojat
i pialatsia na proezhajushij mimo traffrik. Kartinka ta eshe...
A vy chto, Vladimir, v samom Richmonde i zhivete?? A to davajte k nam
v Washington priezhajte - u nas tut xot' kakja-to civilizacija est', i
respublikancev ne takoje zasilie.
-Sergei
: Vladimir
> : : Blyad', selilis' bi u sinagogi, znal bi kakoi raion storonoi
> : : ob'ezzhat'. Tak net, u Sobora tusuyutsya, mimikriya,chto-li. V Richmond
> : : skoro poryadochnie lyudi sovsem ezdit' perestanut iz-za shlaka etogo.
> : : Tochno govoryat - gde sovok proshel,tam trava ne rastet.Do sih por
> : : uspokoitsya ne mogu.
> : Tak v richmond po-moemu normalnije ludi voobshe ne ezdiat! Ja tam byl
> : odin raz i ponial - chto esli eta dyra - stolitsa shtata v kotorom ja
> : zhivu, to eto xerogo. Vot i ne ezhu tuda bolshe, chtob ne napominat'
> : sebe. Xotia muzej u nix tam Edgara A. Poe klevij - priamo v dome
> : gde Poe i zhil. A sovkov ja tam ne zametil (xotia i ne iskal osobo:) -
> : chernix pravda mnogo - stojat sebe po uglam zapilennix ulic, stojat
> : i pialatsia na proezhajushij mimo traffrik. Kartinka ta eshe...
> : A vy chto, Vladimir, v samom Richmonde i zhivete?? A to davajte k nam
> : v Washington priezhajte - u nas tut xot' kakja-to civilizacija est', i
> : respublikancev ne takoje zasilie.
> Poyasniayu dlia "telecommunication professionals". Richmondom
> nazyvayut rajon San Francisco okolo Kafedral'nogo Sobora Vseh
> Skorbiashchih Radosti Zapadno-Americanskoj Eparhii Russkoj Zarubezhnoj
> Pravoslavnoj Cerkvi.
> Stolicej shtata yavliaetsia gorod Sacramento.
Mimo kassy. Zaloukaev - ne "telecommunication professionals", a CS 211.
Dlia ebanutyh kaliforniicev poyasniayu - Richmondom nazyvaetsa stolica
slavnogo Commonwealth of Virginia, v koem Commonwealth i raspolozhen ne
menee slavnyi GMU. I studentu sovershenno ne greh vspomnit' o stolice v
vesennii taksovyi period.
Po povodu vyhodki Makarkina: nikogda ne slyshali, chto govorit odin
evrei, chut' ne zadavivshyi drugogo? Ya slyshal.
> Yuri Sorkin
Dima
--
"Wine is an unsophisticated drink. They just
stomp on grapes in their bare feet."
MJ
A Vy, Gospodin Makarkin, ja tak ponimaju sami iz Rurukivichej budete?
Po slogu i rifme vrode nikak ne men'she.
No kak zhe eto Vashu familiju v spiske "Mayflower" propustili? Ved'
Vash uvazhaemyj pra-dedushka (pra-pra-pra...) sudja po vsemu sjuda
imenno tak Vashe semja zavez?
A. Chaihorsky (Chaihor-Khan before 1917)
>Blyad'. Do sih por ruki tryasutsya.
>Edu ya vverh po Geary, na perekrestke zelenii,sprava fura stoit,za nei
>ne vidat' ni huya. I tut on narisovivaetsya, pidor s avos'koi, shari
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
"Narisovyvaetsja"? Blia! Neuzhdo ja sovsem svihnulsja ili Makarkin
po-russki ni bel'mesa?
"Pidor"? Eto chto, ukazom Eltsina "pidera" na "pidora" pomenjali? Kak pri
Hrusche "zajats" na "zaits"?
>zabichil i huyarit na svoi krasnii.Horosho sleva nikogo ne bilo,uspel
>ya , ato bi pizdec emu. Na nem kepka-pidorka, tipichnii MNS. A szadi
^^^^^^^
I love his consistency: "pidorka".
>baba ego - sovchiha - pidaraska,kurtka s
^^^^^^^^^
Nu vot, nakonetts raznoobrazie: teper' ne "pidor" a" pidar". Variety.
I esche mne nravitsja ego "pidaraska" potomu, chto my v detstve tak
polovoe sozrevanie opredeljali. Esli chelovek znaert slovo "piderast" -
znachit, on seksual'no sozrel, emu bol'she 13. A esli vse "pideras"
govorit - znachit, malek.
>blestkami i nakrashena kak >blyad'.
>Ya kogda tormoznul, sovok zametalsya, potom zastil tak i s neodobreniem
>na menya smotrit, deskat' peshehod vsegda prav. Vzadi signalili, ya
Vzadi? V kakom takom zade? Ne ponimaju. Libo ja za 20 let v Amerike
russkij jazyk podzabyl, libo, ty, goluba, iz T'mutarakani k nam pozhaloval.
I pochemu vse tema takaja anal'naja? "Pider" na kazhdoj strochke i
vse pro "v zad" rassuzhdaesch'? Mozhet, tebe ne po Geary, a po Polk ezdit'?
Aaaa, ponyal: ty prottotip togo provintsiala, kotoryj u zoschenko
"Kladi vzad" oral!
>uspel tol'ko pidarasom ego nazvat', u nego chelyust'
^^^^^^^^^^
>tak i otvisla.
U menya by tozhe otvisla, kogda chelovek (vzroslyj pri tom!), po vidu
russkij, ne znaet slova "piderast"!
>Ya vot dumayu, eta hueta welfernaya u sebya v Odessah tozhe na krasnii
Iz Odessy? Mozhet byt'. No vrojatnee - iz kakogo-to kolhoza v tambovskoj
oblasi (sm. nizhe). Zemliachki tvoi. Tol'ko poobrazovannej.
>huyarila? Ili oni specom eto delayut, hitrozhopie, chtobi zasudit' >kogo?
>Tol'ko hui oni menya zasudyat, u menya truck tyazhelii, davit' nasmert' budu.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Skol'ko v Shtatah za sovka dayut?
Ot dvadtsati do soroka. No, esli budesh' u nachal'stva v rot brat' -
chrez 10 let mogut na poruki osvobodit'.
>Ya ved' im huevu kuchu foodstampov sberegu.
>Blyad', selilis' bi u sinagogi, znal bi kakoi raion storonoi ob'ezzhat'.
^^^^^^^^^
Pochemu antisemitism i polnaja umstvennaja otstalost' tak drug s drugom
druzhny? Nu pochemu, kak antisemit - tak "vzadi", "pidoras"? Pochemu esli
chelovek sposoben vyuchit' svoj russkij jazyk - vyrasteat normal'nym, a
esli v russkom jazyke ni bumbum - to vsegda antisemit?
Ischut kozlov otpuschenija za svju umstvennuju otstalost' i nesposobnost'
govorit' po-russki? Ili tam v shkolah dlia umstvenno otstalyh spetsial'no
izuchajut takoj predmet: "judofobija"?
A voobsche-to, smeh da i tol'ko, chto s yazykom delajut. My-to slovo
"sopvok" izobreli, chtoby oboznachat' umstvenno-otstalih sovetsko-russkih
patriotov kzenofobnogo tipa, a oni teper' 20 let spustia ukrali nashe
slovo i ispol'zujut ego dlija oboznachenija evreev.
I nravitsja mne, chto Makarkin imitiruet izdevatel'skuju pesnyu pro
antisemitov. Nu, pomnite:
"Na putjah tramvaj zastrjal, pod nego evrej popal. Evrei, evrei, krugom
odni evrei!"
Tak etot pridurok na polnom ser'jeze etu pesnyu vosprinyal i schitaet,
chto pod kolesa tol'ko evrei popadajut. A kak on znaet, chto etot "sovok"
evrej po natsional'nosti byl? On chto, s raskrytoj shirin'koj hodil i s
"dobrom" naruzhu? Tak kak na Geary sinagog netu, a polno tserkvej, ne
trudno dogadat'sja, chto "sovok" byl iz Tambovskoj ili Krasnojarskoj
oblasti (ih teper' prud prudi) i s ispugu ot Ameriki popal pod kolesa. A
tut vdrug vyskakivaet Makarkin s ego nedonoschennoj vneshnost'yu i
nachinaet na lomannom russkom yazyke orat' na nego :'Pidoraz! Lozhi,
bliad', vzad!" Nu, i nash tambovskij kolhoznik sovsem opeshil...
> Tak net, u Sobora tusuyutsya, mimikriya,chto-li. V Richmond
Shutki shutkami, a ved' dejstvitel'no starik so staruhoj iz Sobora
vozvraschalis'. Privykli, chto v Kalifornii voditeli peshehodov
propuskajut, a tut - Makarkin iz svoego Krivogo Roga ili otkuda on tam...
V Richmonde i tak pravoslavnih men'she stanovitsja (vse bol'she
kitajtsev), a s makarkinym voobsche vse skoro peredaviatsja. Term bolee,
chto Makarkin vseh pravoslavnyh za evreev prinimaet i davit vo slavu
Gospodnju!
>skoro poryadochnie lyudi sovsem ezdit' perestanut iz-za shlaka etogo.
Vot eto pravda. Esli etot shlak, kotoryj starikov davit i evreev
nenavidit, budet prodolzhat' "harass" sanfrantsitsev, to ne tol'ko v
Richmonde, voobsche v nashem slavnom gorode nikogo ne ostanetsja.
Podumat' tol'ko! Sotni let zhili kak ljudi, russkie byli iz pervih, kto
osnoval gorod, zdes' s 20-h godov samaja krupnaya russkaya obschina v
Amerike, zhili mirno, i vdrug obvilas' Sovkovaja Imperija, i vse Sovki
tipa Makarkina, kak krysy, v Ameriku podalis'. Do etogo eti ubliudki,
eti viznyuki i makarkiny, vse na evreev (kotorym vlasti razreshali
emigririovati iz "kommunisticheskogo raja") orali. Mol, predateli, za 20
serebrjannikov prodali nash nelikij i moguchij Sovkovij Sojuz. Ne dorgo,
mol, vam nashe svetloe buduschee! predali vy nashu Sovkovuju Rossiju. No
vot skinuli Sovkov, Rossija stala svobodnoj, teper' na hleb nuzhno ne
demagogiej sovkovoj, a golovoj i potom dobyvat'. A sovkam len'! Tuk, k
schast'ju Rossija otkryla vorota dlja emigratsii neevreev. I rinulis'
viznyuki i makarkiny iz Rossii proch'! Mol, ne nasha eta Rossija, ne
Sovkovaja! Kapitalisty vy vse i sionisty! Sral ia na Rossiju! Mne babki
nuzhny! "
No svoju antisemitskuju paranoju i zdes' v Amerike ne zabyli. Vezde evrei im
chudiatsja, pravoslavnyh pereezzhayut, i vse vokrug "velfershiki"
Patrioty Rossii, prodavshie Rodinu za 2.67
serebrjannikov. Mol, vse evrejskie emigranty iz SSSR - Sovki i predateli,
a my - emigranty iz svobodnoj Rosii - bortsy! Bortsy za lishnjuju
kopejku, to bish'. Vsyudu speshim svoe urvat'. Tak toropimsja, chto
lyudej davim. A kak razdavim - pridumyvaem opravdanie. Mol, ne chelovek
byl, a evrej, moi predki ih davili v Belostoke, i mne sam Bog velel. I
voobsche, net vremeni u menya ostanavlivat'sja, ia na "garage sale"
opazdyvayu, hochu vidik desheviy pupit'.
>Tochno govoryat - gde sovok proshel,tam trava ne rastet.Do sih por
>uspokoitsya ne mogu.
Chto, opozdal na garage sale? Mozhet, na vremja perestanesh' po Geary
ezdit'? Daj trave nazad podrasti, a potom opiat' davi ee.
>Vladimir
Vladislav
Da bros' ti ,Borya, v nature. Ili ne znaesh istorii, kak sovki nad staroi
babkoi opekunstvo berut,a potom etu babku iz doma vikidivayut? Ili ne slishal
pro sovchih v norkovih shubah, kotorie za zhratvu foodstampami
rasplachivayutsya? Dlya nih America - ta zhe ih Deribasovskaya, tol'ko
rabotat' ne nado (dazhe izobrazhat).
Tak kto Sharikovi: ya ili oni?
... deletia ...
: It is me you are
: going to kill by your truck.
Boris, I of course second you, but I think there is something to add.
Luckily, we live in a good country. He will not kill you by his truck,
because he knows that if he does, he will get what he deserves.
To preserve this goodness, by some complicated reasons we should allow
Makarkin to bitch about anything.
Besides that, I think that, for example, you have a much happier life
than Makarkin right now. He is full of anger which does not come bundled
with happiness. And you are happy and have interesting life and have a lot
of things to think and talk about, when Makarkin talks and thinks only
about Jews and zona which is quite boring.
Is it a consolation?
--
- Igor. SCS Yellow Pages: http://www.iii.net/users/ichudov/index.html
43rd Law of Computing: Anything that can go wrT&^*#
Segmentation violation -- core dumped
It is not a consolation, because I don't
need one.
Why should I need a consolation? Because
Mr. Makarkin and his ilk hates me? Big
news, indeed. I have seen lots of two-bit
Anti-Semits to be surprised by this fact.
He is rather typical - bad education,
primitive language, lack of logic. He is
not even funny, unlike (sometimes) Viznyuk.
To say the truth I don't see why you and
some other people waste your time talking
to this guy and his likes. The only reason
I spoke to him was to ask him to stop to
address me in his cheap pimp manner ("Nu
ty, Borya, v nature...").
Good luck
-Boris
Tak zhe kak veruyuschyy chelovek logichno dokazyvayet suschestvovanie boga,
a neveryuyschii yego nesuschestvovanie, libo chelovek verit (a sledovatel'no,
ponimayet) chto vo vsem vinovaty yevrei, libo ponimayet (i sledoavatel'no
verit) v chto eto ne tak.
Bolee togo, dlya very ne nado nikakikh dokumentov i dokazatel'stv.
V armii ya videl nemalo rebyat kotorye chitali to s trudom, i dlya
kotorykh ya byl pervym evreem vstrechannym zhiviem. Nekotorye srazy
rvalis' v boi, nekotorye, osoznav, chto ya ne tak uzh omerzitel'no plokh,
s nadezhdoi sprashivali :"Mozhet ty ne sovsem yevrey", ibo poverit'
svoim glasam ne mogli. Odin mal'chik menya pozhalel:
-Ty evrey?
-evrey.
-I chto, papa i mama tozhe everei?
-Tozhe.
-A yesli u tebya sestrenka rodit'sa, neuzheli i ona budet yevreika?!
On eyo zaranee zhalel, dobraye dusha...
Eto ya vse k tomu, chto pytat'sa ubedit' kogo-to VERUYUSCHEGO, v tom chto
ne zhidy sgubili Rossiyu (ili chto zhidy ne gubili Rossiyu) - trata vremeni.
Obratnoe verno- ne stoit' tratit' vremya ubezhdaya menya v to vo chto ya
ne poveryu.
Misha.
Though I completely support your (that is - Vlads, to avoid any confusions)
point of view, I just would like to make a brief comment. It's about the
pedestrians crossing the street at wrong places and/or on wrong light.
If we put all that Jewish/Russian/from Odessa/on PA in San Francisco stuff
aside, I just want to say that there are some rules. There are the
pedestrian crossings at some particular places, and there are traffic
lights that are supposed to preserve some order on the streets. And though
here, in the US, those are mostly ignored (especially by pedestrians), I
was glad to hear that in some European countries such as Germany the driver
is not to be held responsible for hitting a pedestrian who crosses the
street in the wrong place/on the wrong light. For those of you who support
the idea of neglecting the traffic rules while you are a pedestrian, try
to imagine yourself behind the steering wheel, trying to cross 5th Avenue
in Manhattan, NY, at about 1pm.
Igor.
>Vlad Rutenburg (fi...@netcom.com) wrote:
>: maka...@hooked.net (Vladimir Makarkin) writes:
>: [A long story omitted. The gist of it is Makarkin has recently moved to
>: California from some jungle. And, naturally, didn't know that in
>: California, Austria and other civilized places drivers give way to
>: pedestrians even when pedestrians cross at wrong places. So, Makarkin was
>about pedestrians crossing the street at wrong places and/or on wrong light.
>If we put all that Jewish/Russian/from Odessa/on PA in San Francisco stuff
>aside, I just want to say that there are some rules. There are the
>pedestrian crossings at some particular places, and there are traffic
>lights that are supposed to preserve some order on the streets. And though
>here, in the US, those are mostly ignored (especially by pedestrians), I
>was glad to hear that in some European countries such as Germany the driver
>is not to be held responsible for hitting a pedestrian who crosses the
>street in the wrong place/on the wrong light. For those of you who support
>the idea of neglecting the traffic rules while you are a pedestrian, try
>to imagine yourself behind the steering wheel, trying to cross 5th Avenue
>in Manhattan, NY, at about 1pm.
Well, while laws are pretty much the same all over USA, the actual
behaviour is quite different. For example, in NY there is an open war
between drivers and pedestrians. The pedestrians usually wait on their
green light, but as soon as their light turns red, they start leasurly
crossing the street for the purpose of stalling the crossing traffic.
This is a very effective method of warfare.
Not to be undercut, the driving half of population has retaliated by
forming its own military units called The Anti-Xenophopic International
Carriage Assault Batallions, or TAXICABs for short. To this elite unit,
they choose only the best: the smelliest, meanest, most English-impared
people among those arriving in Kennedy Airport. The final test: eye-hand
coordination. It is the hardest one. Only people with no such
coordination can be accepted among the TAXICAB drivers. In recent years,
this total lack of hand-eye coordination has become so widely accepted by
the city authorities as a prerequisite fo rgetting a driver's licence,
that one cannot find a good driver even among private car drivers. Thus,
the non-cab driving population is virtually non-existent, and people come
from all over Manhattan to watch a rare non-cab actually driving on
Manhattan streets, lovingly known as the Yellow Sea.
The favorite tactic of warfare that taxicab drivers employ is called
"left and right turns". When pedestrians, seeing green light and WALK sign
shining for them, start walking, the drivers, coming from a parallel
direction, abandon their original route plans go fo rthe kill: they speed
up to 60mph and make a sudden left or right turn, killing dozens of
pedestrians and scattering domesticated animals and fowl all over the
street and sidewalks.
The best and rudest TAXICAB fighters are accepted into the most elite
military organization in the world: the dreaded LIMO drivers. The origin
of the name LIMO is not known for sure. Some think that it comes from
LIMONKA grenade, the only weapon that can slow down a limo driver. Others
believe that it is an abbreviation for Edichka Limonov Fan society. The
fact that, unlike TAXICAB drivers, the majority of Limo drivers are
Russian-speakers confirms this hypothesis. The Limo drivers spend most of
their time peacefully parked on the side of a street, playing cards and
exchanging war stories. By the old Russian tradition, they always come in
groups of three. However, as soon as their dispatcher sends them a signal
that there is a pedestrian within shooting, er, I mean driving, range,
the peaceful demeanor disappears, and a fierce warrior emerges. The rerst
is well known.
I am not implying that everything on the streets of Manhatan is a war.
No, the city fathers, who think of everything, have legislated a
daily multi-hour sieze-fire and rest period known as "gridlock".
In other, provincial cities, the unsophisticated cops hunt down anybody
who stops in the middle of an intersection blocking cross-traffic. Such
acts are deemed as the worst vioations and fined $500. In New York, the
cosmopolitan cops, aware of the need for some rest, not only do not fine
gridlockers, but actually start them. The sight of a cop peacefully
blocking an intersection for two or three hours and leasurely chatting
with truckdrivers, who are helping him create gridlock, is
painfully familiar to any New Yorker. In their noble task of paralizing
all of city's traffic for hours, the cops are helped by foreign
mercenaries wearing a notorious badge "The Garden State" on their bumpers.
V narode, this elite commando unit is lovingly called the Bridge and Tunnel
Crowd.
On the other hand, in the suburbs of Los Angeles, you see the opposite
picture. There, the sight of a pedestrian is so rare that the drivers,
upon seeing one, stop dead in their tracks for many blocks away and watch
in amazement this endangered specie. The LA drivers can watch this
wonder for hours, until the pedestrian disappears into the Mall
or Blockbuster Video, the only 2 places where the
still-alive pedestrians congregate.
San francisco, being in California but a city, is somewhere in between.
The drivers do not stop dead upon seeing a jaywalker, but they don't
speed up either. They slow down, and if the jaywalker persists, stop ten
feet away from him. Makarkin, who has just recently come here from the
city of T'mutarakan', just did not know the san Francisco customs.
So, instead of bawling at that poor old immigrant and
offending him by telling him to convert from Christianity to Judaism and
go to a sinagogue, Makarkin should have just apologized for his exessive
speed and politely told the man not to jaywalk next time, because he can
never assume that every driver around him is a Californian and may be
killed by some makarkin or ibn-mohammedov or another.
Eta kakja, pardon, pol'za ot lawyera krome wreda? Da esli by zdes' wseh
lawerow pereweshat', mozhno polstrany na welfare posadit' ne chihnuw.
... many interesting things about US drivers mores.
But I prefer traffic mores when pedestrians walk at green and wait at red,
and drivers drive at green, and stop at red, and blink to the right when
they gonna make a right turn, and not other way round, as here in D.C.
>Dear Vlad:
>You may be right. Moreover, it may explain
>some thing that I was baffled by for a long time.
Chush' sobach'ja. Mnogie predpochitajut "ty" vmesto "vy", potomu chto eto
gorazdo menee oficial'no i gorazdo bolee demokratichno.
Kakie, k chertu, "slaves/serfs"!
>The thing is, why does almost any Soviet
>Anti-Semite hates Odessa so much? Of course
>there were many Jews in Odessa, but probably
>no more than in Moscow, and the percentage of
>Jews seems to be higher in any 'mestechko'.
>The reason may be that Odessa Jews were
>_different_.
[i v tom zhe duhe Borja prodolzhaet zhalovat'sja na ugnetenie
evreev voobsche i odesskih v osobennosti, cross-postaja v
soc.culture.jewish i v soc.culture.ukrainian ]
Uhu, evrei-odessity "different", a vse ostal'nye - odinakovy, kak dve
kapli vody drug na druga pohozhi.
Nu, da ladno, ne budu na Borju naezzhat', che tam, eto zhe Odessa! :-)
Kstati, a o kievskih evrejah govorili, chto oni - eto te odesskie,
k-rye prosto ne doehali do Moskvy.
--
Ivan Covdy
*** People are looking for a Mind somewhere in the Universe, ***
*** because on the Earth they've been finding only the Stupidity. ***
Ne pohozhe. V. utwerzhdaet, chto ot uchenyh net pol'zy, a ja - chto
ot adwokatow w amerike bol'shoj i ser'eznyj WRED.
Ugu,
a ved' 2 mesyaca nazad vyglyadel prikol'nym malym. I chuvstvo yumora u nego
est', i mozgi prisutstvuyut. Zhalko...
Best wishes from Jerusalem,
Dima, tut ya s toboj solidaren.
U menya oni kazhdyj den' iz - pod koles porkhayut kak babochki. A ya...
Nu chto ya...? Materyu ikh, gadov, tikhonechko. No tol'ko po-russki, tol'ko
po-russki. Ochen' trudno ezdit' po Ierusalimu...
: - What do you call 50 lawyers buried in the sand up to their necks?
: - Not enough sand.
: Sasha
talking about simplistic views....
How do you call a person who entered a contract and now faces a
million-worth-law suit for damages?
A dumb person who did not have enough brain to contact a lawyer who could
draw a legally efficient contract for him
It is time for you to go beyond labels and stereotypes
S yvazheniyem,
Olga Gutman AKA Olga1 Olechka1 Akulenok1
>Wyrastesh', budesh' lawyerom - boris' za normal'nye zakony. Chob kazhdyj mog
>prochitat' i w takom elementarnom sluchae obojtis' bez advokata. I eto ne
>chudo - w bol'shinstwe ciwilizowannyh stran tak.
Nu, ty i seichas mozhesh' oboitis' bez advokata, pravda
dlya etogo chitat' nado umet'. ;-)
A vot ty mne skazhi, Igor', pochemu by eto kazhdomy
ne umet' i mashinu pochinit', i Runge-Kutta primenit',
i zuby svoi samomu vyrvat', i detei samomu uchit',
i teschu samomu poxoronit'.
You have the right to represent yourself, but you
do not bear the responsibility to know about it.
Sasha
Igor is not talking about repairing the car. He is talking about a car with
stearing wheel in the trunk and the brake pedal under the hood. Both equipped with
seats for specially trained professionals to operate them.
Or about Runge-Kutta routine, that would not run, unless you specify correct
phase of Jupiter and exchange rate of Mongolian tugric as input parameters.
Yury
>Vlad Rutenburg (fi...@netcom.com) wrote:
>: nkr...@cs.umb.edu (Natalia S. Krasheninnikova) writes:
>Vlad! pyblichno bery svoi slova obratno i izvin'aus'.
Gag govorjat po-anglisski: apologies wholeheartedly accepted.
>: Soglasen s Vami v Vashej ljubvi i uvazhenii k Rossii. A vot s poslednej
>: frazoj - ne soglasen. Kto zhe, kak ne Rossija, vinovat v tom, chto
>: praviteli - kozly? Kto Eltsina vybiral? Frantsija? A kto 25% golosov za
>: Zhirinovskogo otdal? Germanija? Esli uzh za sobstvennie postupki, za
>: sobstvennie golosa na vyborah ljudi ne berut otvetsvennosti, to kakaja u
>: nih nadezhda?
>ny, ja dymaju eto delo istoricheskoje.
>narod y nas po chasti ypravlenija tochneje kak barani
>odin im navret s tri koroba, oni emy i pover'at. i yzh povtor'alos'
>eto milion raz, a vse ravno ver'at
>no, smeju zamatit', chto praviteli ochen' chasto lish' podstavnie
>peshki. chestno govor'a, ja ne dymaju, chto eltsin vse eto sam
>vidymal.
Russia is facing enormous challenges. Having to undo 70 years of destruction
done during the Soviet period is tremendously dificlut. Ja vspominaju, chto
Aksenov skazal gde-to v nachale 80-h godov na vopros, stanet li Rossija snova
zhit' po-chelovecheski v izmerimom buduschem: "Iz akvariuma s zhivymi rybkami
legko sdelat' uhu. Obratnyj protsess namnogo slozhnee".
The new Russia not only has to build its infrastructure from scratch, it has
to dismantle the old one first. Not only do the people have to learn the new
mentality, but to "unlearn" the old Sovok one. Thus, to expect any leader to
solve these problems quickly is absurd. However, he should do as much good as
possible and do as little harm as possible. Of course, Eltsin's Chechen
fiasco, his body guards' behavior, his firing of Moscow's prokuror, his
unabashed determination to use any pretext to prevent free presedential
elections in the future - all this does great harm.
Will the people learn and wise up? Well, people have already learned a lot.
For example, to refuse to shoot at their own compatriots (the White House
conflict excepted), to oppose any non-defensive war.Will people also learn
not to trust politicians who promise to feed them with "manna nebesnaja"?
Maybe. However, even the more experienced voters in Europe and USA still
believe cheap undeliverable promises. The question for now is: will people
start paying *some* attention to realists? Will lack of logic and
"nesposobnost' svjazat' dvuh slov" remain a prerequisite for an elected
public office?
Pozhivem - uvidim.
(Meaningless statistics: zametili li vy, chto vo glave Rossijskogo
pravitel'stva uzhe 78 ne bylo ni moskvicha, ni peterburzhtsa? A s 1924 po
1992 - ni odnogo severjanina. Eto ja k voprosu o sklonenijah i padezhah.)
I always despised this `Katz' creature, so this article is not
directed to him and his lawyers-friends. I just want to point
out that which I read from people as diverse as Dereck Bok
(a lawyer by education, and Harvard president for decades),
Playboy and, well, any counterculture fanzine. That lawyers in US
are the people who profit from the deficient and absurd legal
system, there is no guilt of lawyers. On the other hand, the
lawyers are the most paid group of people (say, even comparing
with executives, an average lawyer gets paid more than an
average executive). Hence they form an elite.
US is ruled by this elite - the Congress and Senate,
consiting of the same elite, pass the stupid and criminal
laws, like drug prohibitions, or Prohibition of 20-ies,
which are against the general opinion (at least if we
discount the brainwashing, which is also paid for by the
elite, e. g., lawyers - there are books written, say,
on brainwashing campaign which preceded the adoption of
marijuana laws). Hence the lawyers, congressmen etc,
who profit from criminal legal system, are the people
chiefly responsible for this system. On the other hand,
teachers are not well paid and not well educated, so
they take no guilt and no profit in faults of education -
it is the lawyers and congressmen who are responsible
for teachers' low pays and ignorance.
What `Katz' wrote is similar to saying that
Communist system was deficient, but there is no
reason to say that Commie bosses are scum, because
it is the system which is guilty. Of course, the
Commie bosses (and lawyers, which are comparably
evil), who profited from Commie system, are the
scummiest scum of the earth - well, together with
this `Katz' asshole. Saying this, I don't say
that all and every of Commie bosses (or lawyers) are
assholes - I believe that most of them were ordinary
people not aware of their doings. Still, their collective
identity is about as evil as it gets. On the other
hand, I would take as granted that in person most
Commie bosses were nice people - at least nicer
than that `Katz' scummy hole.
Returning to the `Subject:' of this article,
`Makarkin' is really a cool guy if he indeed killed
someone like `Katz' - there are lots of people who
pollute this world and deserve to be exterminated.
On the other hand, `Makarkin' probably boasted - he
may have liked to kill someone, but not much `guts'.
Misha`.'
>Advokat, esli on poryadochnii i znayuschii, eto9
>ochen poleznii chelovek
Nu s etim nikto i ne sporit.
Tut vot narod po gluposti vyskazyvaet mnenie, chto takix
osobei voobsche v prirode ne suschestvuyet. ;-)
A kak eto vy uzhe YeU zakonchili tak rano?
U menya priyatel' byl, tak on srednyuyu shkolu
zakonchil i v institut postupil v 14 let
(nu pravda emy Sept.13 na 1-om kurse 15 ispolnilos';-)
nu dyk tam ponyatno, on vodku vmesto chaya s detskogo
sada pil.
>Olya Gutman
Sasha
Wrong again.
Quote from "The State and the Revolution" by V.I.Lenin
(by memory):
. Any government is worth of its nation, as well as any nation
is worth of its government.
Cordially,
Dragon
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Umischa-a-a-a!
Nu kakoj zhe ot nikh vred: ikh povsemestvoe i ezheminutnoe prisutstvie
garantiruet tebe nechto neizmewrimo cennoe - vozmozhnost', khotya by prizrachno
-principial'nuyu otstaivat' svoi prava.
Trebovat' ot nikh beskorystiya i vysokoj morali glupo: oni ne dlya
etogo pridumany.
Example: a nu-ka vspomni, byl li shans u kogo-nibud' v SSSR posporit'
s vlast'yu, naprimer, kogda ona reshila vyschityvat' s ot'ezzhantov za vysshee
obrazovanie. Ili poluchit' den'gi za kvartiru.
Ili, naprimer, pozhalovat'sya na nachal'nika Otd.Kadrov, kotoryj na
tvoe "Zd-g-aste" otvechal "Do svidan'ya". Vse-taki yuristy nuzhny i polezny.
Bez nikh bylo by ochen' legko tebya prizhat' k nogtyu.
Vadim
Wrode my wse zdes' gramotnyje, a kogda nauchimsja chitat' drug druga? J azhe
jasno napisal - w Amerike. Wdrugih stranah juriosty delajut swoe delo i
prinosja swoju pol'zu.
Prijatno s wami poznakomitsja, Ol'ga Antonovna Chekhowa-Gutman.
Yay, men ! Right to the point ! Do you know, though, how many lawyers does
it take to shingle the roof ? - Depends on how thin you slice 'em !
]It is time for you to go beyond labels and stereotypes
Absolutely ! Time to go beyond words and start some action
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PS And lawyers aren't Allowed, either ! Long live Kibo ! Hail Eris !
--
Save the Earth - kill a lawyer
BS.
"Human wouldn't be able to reproduce without men. So, women are useless."
> No amount of scientists and lawyers could have
"No amount of women could have helped without men".
> helped without it. And the Constitutional law is not quite applicable
> to me.
Vspomni ob etom, kogda tebya budut bit' po pochkam v uchastke.
Ili kogda lishat MOSKOVSKOJ PROPISKI za slishkom dlinnyj yazyk.
Ili kogda rekviziruyut kvartiru, rukovodstvuyas' "revolyucionnym
pravosoznaniem".
Have you ever thought why it is so difficult to feed US-ians with shit? And
how they ensure it?
And why UK-ians don't let the Gopvernment to tag them with internal passports,
or IDs or any other form of numbered and registed required document?
> Dal'she chto?
A nichego. Gulyaj sebe. Dozhidajsya. Govna tebe postavyat polnyj chan, a lozhku
vydadut v profkome.
>
> Dima
> --
Vadim
#In article <05Mar95.04...@granite.ciw.edu>, ma...@quartz.ciw.edu (Igor Mazin) writes:
#> Ne pohozhe. V. utwerzhdaet, chto ot uchenyh net pol'zy, a ja - chto
#> ot adwokatow w amerike bol'shoj i ser'eznyj WRED.
#Umischa-a-a-a!
# Nu kakoj zhe ot nikh vred: ikh povsemestvoe i ezheminutnoe prisutstvie
#garantiruet tebe nechto neizmewrimo cennoe - vozmozhnost', khotya by prizrachno
#-principial'nuyu otstaivat' svoi prava.
# Trebovat' ot nikh beskorystiya i vysokoj morali glupo: oni ne dlya
#etogo pridumany.
# Example: a nu-ka vspomni, byl li shans u kogo-nibud' v SSSR posporit'
#s vlast'yu, naprimer, kogda ona reshila vyschityvat' s ot'ezzhantov za vysshee
#obrazovanie. Ili poluchit' den'gi za kvartiru.
# Ili, naprimer, pozhalovat'sya na nachal'nika Otd.Kadrov, kotoryj na
#tvoe "Zd-g-aste" otvechal "Do svidan'ya". Vse-taki yuristy nuzhny i polezny.
#Bez nikh bylo by ochen' legko tebya prizhat' k nogtyu.
# Vadim
Nu-nu, horosho tebe sidet' v Izraile i nahvalivat' amerikanskih juristov :-)
Nu, zdes', pravda, tozhe vstrechajutsja takie, komu oni nravjatsja -
babushka, k-raja poluchila paru millionov, kogda na sebja kofe v McDonald's
prolila. Ili Rodney King, zarabotavshij $4 milliona (Interesno, chto ego
lojery hoteli stol'ko zhe ot LA za svoi trudy. No ne tut-to bylo! LA
eto delo bystro presek, i zaplatil im "vsego" $2 milliona...)
A voobsche, okolo mesjaca na temu lojerov byla ochen' interesnaja stat'ja
v US News&World Report. I sluchai smeshnye, naprimer, kak odin lojer noch'ju
razdalbyval pobol'she vyboinu okolo merii goroda, t.k. ego klient sudil
meriju za to, chto na etoj jamke poskol'znulsja...
Seryi evrei? Zabavno..
> In article <3kaob4$h...@news.acns.nwu.edu> lum...@nwu.edu (Leonid A.
Umantsev) writes:
> >In article <3k9tva$l...@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
al...@belknap.dartmouth.edu (Alexy V. Khrabrov) says:
> >>
> >> A vot ewyo zagadka:
> >> Golova, nogi, zhopa...
> >> Golova, nogi, zhopa...
> >> Golova, nogi, zhopa...
> >> Plyuh!
> >>
> >>Chto by e`to moglo byt`? :-)
> >
> >Barbie manufacturing?
> >
> >Leonid A. Umantsev
> >Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
> >lum...@nwu.edu
>
> Horoshaya mysl`--no ne otgadka. Sluchaj
> vyshe mog nablyudat`sya, podskazka, na prirode...
>
> --
> Alexy V. Khrabrov <khra...@cccc.com>
> "Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam"-
--------------------------------------------------
Esly kryl'yami maschet - znachit kuritsa. Esly net - Duglas 8.
KOCHET.
> vad...@vms.huji.ac.il wrote:
>
> : Pora, pora pridumat' al'ternativnyj mekhaniz'm ograflifaniya.
> : "Graph Alex Gift-Yatskovskiy, russkij dvoryanin." Skromno i dostojno.
>
> ideya razumnaya - no, grafu nugni holopi, right?
> kogo porekomenduem?
>
> ili, on budet obnischavshim grafom?
> ili planarnim?
>
> Senya
--------------------------------------
Gift-Yatskovskomu - kholopy? Da emu vpolne BYDLA khvatit.
Schlyakhta.
I ne mashet, i ne HOCHET. No blizhe...
--
Alexy V. Khrabrov <khra...@cccc.com>
``Age Quod Agis'' (Do what you're doing.)
Spasibo za stishok, no golova, tudy eyo v kachel', ukazana!
--
Alexy V. Khrabrov <khra...@cccc.com>
>Seryi evrei? Zabavno..
If we have Orange Jews (Juice), why not have Grey ones?
Kak tam v pesne pelos'?
Oranzhevye baby
Orangevym evrejam
Oranzhevye mordy
Oranzhevo nab'jut...
> Spasibo za stishok, no golova, tudy eyo v kachel', ukazana!
Togda drakonchik (Strekazel) s chei-to golovoi....
********************** Ilya Gorodisher *****************************************
"Rybka plavayet v tomate
Yey v tomate horosho.
Nu a ya, yebeni mati,
Mesta v zhizni ne nashel..."
Zhenya Zilbershtein, MIT '87
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Togda uzh Yudif' s golovoj Oloferna... To bish', (repost)
Est` staraya v Kimrah taverna:
Yudif` s golovoj Kruzenshterna...
A na samom dele, "golova-nogi-zhopa-plyuh"--e`to real`nyj sluchaj
iz zhizni... karlikov! Kto pervyj ugadaet, poluchit moj firmennyj
priz!