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Mark Markish x2799

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Sep 6, 1992, 4:58:14 PM9/6/92
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> From: "Mike E. Romano" <bj...@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
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> ... a great education (or re-education) could be offered so that
> individuals could at least grow a significant portion of their
> food needs and better quality at that.
> Some of the newer areas include: .........

For those involved or interested, here goes a true XIX century story:

As a matter of "education (or re-education)" of his farmers, a landlord
(barin) was demonstrating them a new plough he has purchased in Germany.
The farmers (mouzhiki) watched silently and attentively. Then one of them
said:
- Barin, is this plough from Germany?
- Yes.
- That Germany which buys grain in Russia?
- Yes.
- Where are they going to buy grain, once we'll have started
ploughing their way?

Mike E. Romano

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Sep 6, 1992, 6:54:34 PM9/6/92
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To Mark Markish and his story about the plough in 19th Century
Russia:
hopefully the soviet citizens do not have quite the same outlook
as perhaps in the 19th century (certainly seem to be interested
now in importing the "plough" of Ameri-business.
....And to look at traditionally wasteful American farming
methods and then compare them with the efficiency of say
a Chinese produce garden....well shucks I guess we over here
don't rilly lak the shape of them thar plows neither...
--
Mike Romano Univ. Calif. Berkeley

Alex Allister Shvartsman, EMF, LKG2-2/T2 08-Sep-1992 1453

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Sep 8, 1992, 3:02:09 PM9/8/92
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RE: Mark Markish x2799 <mmar...@FEDS46.PRIME.COM>

#> From: "Mike E. Romano" <bj...@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
#> ... a great education (or re-education) could be offered so that
#> individuals could at least grow a significant portion of their
#> food needs and better quality at that.
#> Some of the newer areas include: .........
#
#For those involved or interested, here goes a true XIX century story:
#
#As a matter of "education (or re-education)" of his farmers, a landlord
#(barin) was demonstrating them a new plough he has purchased in Germany.
#The farmers (mouzhiki) watched silently and attentively. Then one of them
#said:
# - Barin, is this plough from Germany?
# - Yes.
# - That Germany which buys grain in Russia?
# - Yes.
# - Where are they going to buy grain, once we'll have started
# ploughing their way?

In fact Mark is too kind. I remember that during the past couple of years
Western Sovietologists and our own nexperts kept telling us that the
problem of (x)Soviet agriculture is in inefficient distribution systems.

They forget that on the eve of WWI Russian Empire was exporting bread
while feeding itself. Even in the 1920's, before the collectivization,
Soviet peasants produced abundance of grain. All that using XIXth cent.
equipment and horse drawn carriages ... Somehow "antiquated distribution"
did not get in the way.

Alex

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