2nd CFV: soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans
Robert Haas
unmoderated group soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans
Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans The Afrikaans language and its speakers.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 18 Sep 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Robert Haas <rh...@kitimar.seti-inst.edu>.
For questions about the proposed group contact
Robert Wagenaar <st90...@rulfsw.leidenuniv.nl>.
RATIONALE:
The following charter and rationale were written by the proponent of
the group.
Afrikaans is a language spoken largely in southern Africa
(predominantly South Africa, Namibia and to a lesser extent Zimbabwe,
Botswana, Swaziland and Lesotho), although small communities of
Afrikaans-speaking people are found in other parts of the world.
Afrikaans evolved in southern Africa from the interaction between
17th-century Dutch, African languages, Portuguese, Malay and other
influences. Although it is a uniquely African language, it is
nonetheless classed as a member of the Germanic languages, and is
similar to the Dutch language, which is predominantly spoken in the
Netherlands and a large part of Belgium. There is a substantial body
of Afrikaans literature, and it is used extensively in the written and
electronic media. There are a number of tertiary educational
institutions in South Africa in which Afrikaans is the medium of
instruction. Between 10 and 12 million people use it everyday as their
first or second language.
South Africa has its own za.* newsgroup hierarchy, in which the
articles are predominantly written in English. A za.culture.afrikaans
newsgroup could be an alternative for a
soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans newsgroup, for those who want to
hold discussions in Afrikaans. But, the za.* newsgroup are less well
known outside South-Africa, and in some cases less accessible than the
USENET news-groups, therefore this proposal has been issued.
Another reason is the interest in Afrikaans that Dutch speakers from
the Netherlands and Belgium have expressed.
Soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans will have a partial overlap with
soc.culture.south-africa in discussions about southern Africa. The
soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans newsgroup is intended not so much
as a substitute but more as an addition to this newsgroup, and serves
also as a place on the internet for Afrikaans speakers from Namibia.
The Afrikaans mailinglist is already a big success, and we expect to
reach even more people with a USENET newsgroup. It is our intention to
make a gateway between the Afrikaans mailinglist and the proposed
group.
CHARTER: soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans
In this proposed charter, the term 'Afrikaans speakers' will be taken
to include all people who speak Afrikaans, regardless of race, colour,
creed or national origin, whether they consider themselves to be
'Afrikaners' or not. This includes both mother-tongue speakers and
others, including those who speak 'alternative' Afrikaans.
The proposed newsgroup soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans is intended
as a platform for all information about speakers of the Afrikaans
language all information and discussion about speakers of the
Afrikaans language and the language itself. This means all discussions
about social, cultural, political, economical, historical,
geographical and other issues that are, in one way or the other,
related to Afrikaans speakers, Afrikaans or the southern African
region are welcome in this newsgroup.
Also, it is hoped that soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans will be a
meaningful means for contact between Afrikaans speakers at home and
abroad, and between the Afrikaans speakers, including those who speak
'alternative' Afrikaans, and and all other persons interested in the
Afrikaans language.
Soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans will be an unmoderated newsgroup,
so anyone will be able to post to this newsgroup. Being free to post
should also mean being responsible for what you post. All articles
posted should have 'something' to do with southern Africa, Afrikaans
or Afrikaans-speaking people, however remotely. Insults, "flames" or
unnecessary criticism of a group or a person is strongly discouraged.
Please read the netiquette rules in news.announce.newusers before
posting your first article to any newsgroup, and try to stick to them
whenever posting articles.
Languages:
Primarily, postings in Afrikaans (also in 'alternative' Afrikaans),
Dutch and English can be expected. However, postings in any other
language are also welcome to facilitate the exchange of information
with the largest possible audience.
END CHARTER.
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Robert Haas
unmoderated group soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans passes 272:19
There were 272 YES votes and 19 NO votes, for a total of 291 valid votes.
There were 2 abstains.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Votes closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 18 Sep 1995.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Robert Haas <rh...@kitimar.seti-inst.edu>.
For questions about the proposed group contact
Robert Wagenaar <st90...@rulfsw.leidenuniv.nl>.
RATIONALE: soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans
CHARTER: soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans
Languages:
END CHARTER.
soc.culture.south-africa.afrikaans Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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ST90...@rulfsw.fsw.LeidenUniv.nl
ST90...@rulfsw.fsw.LeidenUniv.nl NAME \"Robert Wagenaar\"
ST92...@rulfsw.fsw.LeidenUniv.nl
stan...@telkom15.telkom.co.za Johan Stander
step...@HK.Super.NET Stephan Schoombie
Step...@ca.co.za
Stev...@aol.com
tan...@iinet.com.au van der Merwe
Tand...@aol.com
tfm...@mistral.co.uk Theo Mars
th...@uclink4.berkeley.edu Tom
to...@intercon.com TommyLee Whitlock
ton...@bnr.ca tony (j.a.) eva
tvan...@macbel.be Theo Van Riet
tw4...@is1.bfu.vub.ac.be FIlip CAmerman
twpi...@midway.uchicago.edu Tim Pierce
U216013%HNYKUN1...@HEARN.nic.SURFnet.nl Ben Salemans
us01...@interramp.com WILLEM P MOSTERT
vddu...@libarts.up.ac.za Elmi van der Dussen
vi...@rmh.uct.ac.za Vicki Scholtz
vors...@ibmsp2.elis.rug.ac.be Annemie Vorstermans
W...@srvnac1.nac.ac.za Wilhelm AG Nel
wer...@cs.utexas.edu Werner Uhrig
w...@woody.inka.de Prof. Dr. Wilhelm Holzapfel
WIL...@alpha.unisa.ac.za SE Wilcocks
WILL...@alpha.unisa.ac.za CJB Wilcocks
wils...@innet.be Willy Schuyesmans
XMP...@fs2.dp7up.com L. Verona Pretorius
z...@woody.inka.de Zwingli Holzapfel
zuc...@maccs.dcss.McMaster.CA Jeffery Zucker
Voted No
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atk...@alleg.EDU Grey Death
cat...@netcom.com Mark Kupferman
jan.coek...@ping.be Jan Coekelberghs
ke...@krlee.demon.co.uk ke...@krlee.demon.co.uk
la...@rahul.net Lance K. Chun
oant...@fir.fbc.com Olufemi Anthony
pa...@skyclad.lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti
pea...@u.washington.edu D. Pearton
ptb...@owl.WPI.EDU Pete Bastien
re...@buphyk.bu.edu Jinara Reyes
rma...@osf1.gmu.edu Robert K Marvin
rossix!dav...@openlink.openlink.com David Moore
sapa...@sapath.win.net Terance LeCompte
Shris...@lambada.oit.unc.edu Shrisha Rao
si...@ittpub.nl
sma...@turing.toronto.edu Smarasderagd
stai...@bga.com Dwight Brown
tec...@winternet.com Technical Intelligence-MN-USA
tla...@email.develop.american.edu Todd C. Lawson
Abstained
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crou...@flidh103.delcoelect.com Kenneth P Crouch
wide...@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius